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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato
    What happened?
    How did that happen? *
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    [Don't forget, my question related to a first date situation, where you didn't know that the man possesses your husband's other fine qualities. He knocks at your door, presumably trying to make a good impression - and he's wearing a woman's soft, tender floral]


    If i knocked on a womans door to take her on a first date i seriously doubt she would have any idea i was wearing a female fragrance....even a "soft, tender floral". *Especially a manly, masculine kind of guy like me * ;D ;D ;D * And unless you are a fragrance nut like basenoters are, the layperson would NEVER EVER know. * Also, if she was offended somehow at the fact i was wearing a "womens scent" then it would offend me that she was offended then we would be both annoyed with each other and end the date early and never see each other again. *I will admit, though, that i do not tell dates or people in general that i wear womens scents. * Unfortunately, ridiculous assumptions would be made about me if i did. *On a more interesting note, my interest in Arpege is now piqued. *I will have to go and try it. *
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    Ciste 18 by Le Labo is marketed towards women....
    BUT
    It smells similar to Musc Ravageur...which is unisex...correct?
    It is all interpretation...Just because someone says its for women....another person will say...NO, its for men.
    It's open to debate....Just wear whatever you feel comfortable with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjrober22
    Ciste 18 by Le Labo is marketed towards women....
    BUT
    It smells similar to Musc Ravageur...which is unisex...correct?
    It is all interpretation...Just because someone says its for women....another person will say...NO, its for men.
    It's open to debate....Just wear whatever you feel comfortable with.
    No argument from me on that point.
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    Well, I'm still puzzled. Halfway through this discussion I asked a question to which I have not had a straight answer, despite all the numerous responses. I'll rephrase it as follows,

    Manufacturers and perfumers make scents clearly labelled as "For Men, Pour Homme, Uomo, Hombre etc" and other scents labelled "For women, Pour femme, Donna" or unlabelled as such, but obviously for women when there is a corresponding "Pour Homme" version.

    And we have a discussion board to discuss men's fragances and one for the discussion of female fragrances.

    My Unanswered Question *- Why do men insist on discussing female fragrances on the men's fragrance discussion board?

    Responses along the lines of - men can wear any scent they want/ manly men can wear female fragrances/ I'm offended at any comparison to crossdressing/ you must be insecure in your manhood because I'm not, and I wear lots of female scents/ this is a site solely for men to discuss what they wear/perfumers don't see any distinction, only the manufacturers do, so why should we have that distinction etc etc - *are all very interesting, but are also either totally irrelevant or plain wrong.

    When I want to discuss a female scent, I go to the board set up for that purpose - the female fragance discussion board *- a board "for the discussion of feminine fragrances".

    I don't feel unmanly in the least about it.

    My next question -
    Why do so many of you, despite all your assertions and protestations of your manliness, feel so plainly uncomfortable and totally disinclined to discuss the feminine fragrances you wear on the board which is "for the discussion of feminine fragrances"?
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    We did leave that unanswered, eh?

    I have posted and do post on the "feminine fragrance" board on occasion. *The activity level, however, on this board far outweighs that on the other side, which leads me to post preferentially here. *Just look at the numbers of posts and of topics. *In a way, since this originated more as a board for males/masculine fragrances, with the other side coming later, I still think of this as my "home" board and tend to post most things here. *Especially as I'm not so much inclined to worry if things fit in this box or that one--most of the people who I read and share with are posting on this board. *With limited time in the day, I'll check in here even if I don't get a chance to check in there. *If I am posting on a fragrance specifically with a question, and it's a "feminine" fragrance; I will usually post it there--sometimes here, depending on who I am hoping to hear from. * I always post SotD here, no matter what category the fragrance may officially be, although, on occasion I post both sides. *I would venture to guess that a lot of guys tend not to read that board and thus posting there may miss some of the input I would want from the crowd who reads here. *Really, it seems like quite a fuss to worry about who is posting about a fragrance categorized as this or that on whichever board.


    My unanswered question: How did you manage to post twice without your number of posts increasing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by docluv45
    We did leave that unanswered, eh?

    I have posted and do post on the "feminine fragrance" board on occasion. *The activity level, however, on this board far outweighs that on the other side, which leads me to post preferentially here. *Just look at the numbers of posts and of topics. *In a way, since this originated more as a board for males/masculine fragrances, with the other side coming later, I still think of this as my "home" board and tend to post most things here. *Especially as I'm not so much inclined to worry if things fit in this box or that one--most of the people who I read and share with are posting on this board. *With limited time in the day, I'll check in here even if I don't get a chance to check in there. *If I am posting on a fragrance specifically with a question, and it's a "feminine" fragrance; I will usually post it there--sometimes here, depending on who I am hoping to hear from. * I always post SotD here, no matter what category the fragrance may officially be, although, on occasion I post both sides. *I would venture to guess that a lot of guys tend not to read that board and thus posting there may miss some of the input I would want from the crowd who reads here. *Really, it seems like quite a fuss to worry about who is posting about a fragrance categorized as this or that on whichever board.


    My unanswered question: *How did you manage to post twice without your number of posts increasing?
    It seems to me that you're answer is that you are posting about feminine scents on this board because the guys who's opinion you want, are not posting on the other board. Which still leaves unanswered my question of why guys in general are not posting about feminine scents on the feminine board in the first place.
    Traffic on that board certainly wouldn't be a problem if they did post that way.

    That's one really good question you've posed. I wish I knew the answer, because I feel short changed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosbergs3
    And unless you are a fragrance nut like basenoters are, the layperson would NEVER EVER know.
    Agree 100%. Just like when I used to wear Hawk and got lots of compliments on it. Nobody even recognized that it was a "male" fragrance.

    And if you WERE dating a fragrance nut and she recognized whatever you were wearing, she'd probably think it was cool, brave, and confident of you to "cross sides" like that. I know I would! (I love that my husband was willing to try SJP Lovely - and it was very nice on him - and that he's happy to try Dior Dolce Vita or Vivienne Westwood Libertine or, well, pretty much anything I want him to try, other than Diorissimo, which he doesn't like even on me, hehe).

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    Let me simplify my answer.

    It takes more time and effort to follow two boards than it does to follow one.

    Got it?
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    For cripes sake. Have you noticed that most DESIGNER fragrances are designated Pour Homme vs. Pour Femme? It's all about selling the most units.

    If I were an alien studying such things, I'd wonder how they come up with these categories. Once I'd figured this out, I'd want to study the sociology of how certain genders stuck by such marketing schemes. This is certainly a complex issue, but it all comes down to people following the herd. This is why designer fragrances are profitable.

    Don't get me wrong... I love fragrances "categorized" as designer and niche, but I think we all need to designate for ourselves what works for our own body chemistry. I've tried many "female" fragrances that I deemed too masculine and many "male" fragrances I deemed too feminine.

    Get over the frickin' marketing crap.


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    When I mentioned the Arpege I was thinking of my first date with my husband, who is essentially a traditional kind of guy. He showed up wearing a pink shirt and I thought, well that's different, I like that. (Not a bright pink. The color was somewhat neutralized and the fabric was a cotton sailcloth. I don't mean, like, pink polyester.) I thought it was quite bold and self-assured of him. He insists, now, that he most certainly did not wear the pink shirt he owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octothorpe
    For cripes sake. *Have you noticed that most DESIGNER fragrances are designated Pour Homme vs. Pour Femme? *It's all about selling the most units.

    If I were an alien studying such things, I'd wonder how they come up with these categories. *Once I'd figured this out, I'd want to study the sociology of how certain genders stuck by such marketing schemes. *This is certainly a complex issue, but it all comes down to people following the herd. *This is why designer fragrances are profitable.

    Don't get me wrong... I love fragrances "categorized" as designer and niche, but I think we all need to designate for ourselves what works for our own body chemistry. *I've tried many "female" fragrances that I deemed too masculine and many "male" fragrances I deemed too feminine.

    Get over the frickin' marketing crap.
    I notice that your response doesn't address either of my questions - why do men not post about feminine scents in the feminine discussion site, and is there some feeling of unmanliness involved?

    If it is all marketing crap as you put it, and it is all as is irrelevant as you suggest, I should then expect to see heaps of your comments about men's and women's scents, equally distributed among the men's and women's fragrance discussion boards - with half of your postings in the women's fragrance section about men's fragrances.
    But I don't. Maybe it's not that irrelevant? How come you are being dictated to buy all that marketing crap, as you put it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange_Accord
    When I mentioned the Arpege I was thinking of my first date with my husband, who is essentially a traditional kind of guy. *He showed up wearing a pink shirt and I thought, well that's different, I like that. *(Not a bright pink. *The color was somewhat neutralized and the fabric was a cotton sailcloth. *I don't mean, like, pink polyester.) *I thought it was quite bold and self-assured of him. *He insists, now, that he most certainly did not wear the pink shirt he owned.
    I once showed up to work in a hot pink jumper - that was not a good day - there was only so much ridicule I could take before I put it in my briefcase and froze.
    Like many men, I'm partly red-green colour blind - I had thought it was red.
    I took the jumper back to the shop and exchanged it next day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato
    [quote author=Octothorpe link=1144672219/120#130 date=1145596277]For cripes sake. *Have you noticed that most DESIGNER fragrances are designated Pour Homme vs. Pour Femme? *It's all about selling the most units.

    If I were an alien studying such things, I'd wonder how they come up with these categories. *Once I'd figured this out, I'd want to study the sociology of how certain genders stuck by such marketing schemes. *This is certainly a complex issue, but it all comes down to people following the herd. *This is why designer fragrances are profitable.

    Don't get me wrong... I love fragrances "categorized" as designer and niche, but I think we all need to designate for ourselves what works for our own body chemistry. *I've tried many "female" fragrances that I deemed too masculine and many "male" fragrances I deemed too feminine.

    Get over the frickin' marketing crap.
    I notice that your response doesn't address either of my questions - why do men not post about feminine scents in the feminine discussion site, and is there some feeling of unmanliness involved?

    If it is all marketing crap as you put it, and it is all as is irrelevant as you suggest, I should then expect to see heaps of your comments about men's and women's scents, equally distributed among the men's and women's fragrance discussion boards - with half of your postings in the women's fragrance section about men's fragrances.
    But I don't. Maybe it's not that irrelevant? How come you are being dictated to buy all that marketing crap, as you put it?
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    I'll try to answer your questions, Renato, from my point of view if you will answer this one question of mine. *Why did you start a thread entitled "Males wearing female fragrances" on a board that you, yourself, seem to suggest should only be about male fragrances? * This topic should not be allowed on this board because it isn't about male fragrances.

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    I made a post about Tabac Blond and Parfum Sacre on the feminine discussion site a couple of days ago. I like Tabac Blond a lot. Parfum Sacre I like better on my female companion. The Carons are just so spectacular. You can't help but get a little excited about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato
    [quote author=docluv45 link=1144672219/120#126 date=1145586822]We did leave that unanswered, eh?

    I have posted and do post on the "feminine fragrance" board on occasion. The activity level, however, on this board far outweighs that on the other side, which leads me to post preferentially here. Just look at the numbers of posts and of topics. In a way, since this originated more as a board for males/masculine fragrances, with the other side coming later, I still think of this as my "home" board and tend to post most things here. Especially as I'm not so much inclined to worry if things fit in this box or that one--most of the people who I read and share with are posting on this board. With limited time in the day, I'll check in here even if I don't get a chance to check in there. If I am posting on a fragrance specifically with a question, and it's a "feminine" fragrance; I will usually post it there--sometimes here, depending on who I am hoping to hear from. I always post SotD here, no matter what category the fragrance may officially be, although, on occasion I post both sides. I would venture to guess that a lot of guys tend not to read that board and thus posting there may miss some of the input I would want from the crowd who reads here. Really, it seems like quite a fuss to worry about who is posting about a fragrance categorized as this or that on whichever board.....
    It seems to me that you're answer is that you are posting about feminine scents on this board because the guys who's opinion you want, are not posting on the other board. Which still leaves unanswered my question of why guys in general are not posting about feminine scents on the feminine board in the first place. Traffic on that board certainly wouldn't be a problem if they did post that way.
    That's one really good question you've posed. I wish I knew the answer, because I feel short changed!
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    My answer would also be docluv's answer, just less sophisticated here. Sometimes I need reassurance from women, sometimes from men. As concerns masculine fragrances, Renato, I think of your personal preferences highly, and I share a lot of them. It is my impression that we both have grown into liking more exclusive scents during the past twelve to eighteen months, without looking down on some more basic male colognes in our (so different) past. You post a lot, so I know you a little by now, and my personal questions on the wearability of a feminine frag would not exactly be directed at you. But there are other men with different ideas, and these are less predictable! It is their opininions I want to consider too. Maybe I have the wrong idea, but concerning wearability, from Cool Water to Lauder's Beyond Paradise (women) I need a man's opinion! His rude directness or drastic comparisons just have more info value (for me).

    A woman's judgement is usually more ambigious, more liberal - too liberal? Ask myself why few men post in the feminine forum and vice versa? It is a fact! What is there to worry, be that logical or not? I best accept what is there! Due to the fact that the web houses quite a few lively forums for female fragrances, basenote's female forum is not particularly outstanding (in my opinion). It is thinly populated in comparison to the male fragrance forum, from which follows: female fragrances have less coverage. Often you find no fragrance details, no review at all concerning a specific fragrance. Many a review is written by persons you never heard of. There are others written by male basenotes members, some of which have a reputation for writing expert male reviews also.

    Basenotes, I bet, is known for it's male forum. Their members are mostly there for a passion, which is perfume. They also consider, even discuss, wearing female fragrances, so what? (anybody knows the percentage of such threads? It is certainly below the percentage of daily crap everybody must tolerate as unavoidable). Actually how can we afford not to discuss certain female frags as part of the male wardrobe on the male fragrance board? Better than having Armani/Lutens decide what is appropriate for men to wear, Roudnitska, or Chandler Burr, let us men decide ourselves, each for himself, us as a group (Musc Ravageur 2005 f?/m?). As a world wide group we are the expert consumers, and perfume houses, designers and lifestyle Gurus should listen!

    To try and force the 'borderline' discussions into a special section is not a trifle peculiarity. It could have a killing effect. How do we determine what is the hard core in male fragrances if we do not know the borders? A discussion like this one helps find the borders.


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    Quote Originally Posted by foetidus
    I'll try to answer your questions, Renato, from my point of view if you will answer this one question of mine. *Why did you start a thread entitled "Males wearing female fragrances" on a board that you, yourself, seem to suggest should only be about male fragrances? * This topic should not be allowed on this board because it isn't about male fragrances.
    Because the topic and it's contents as the discussion has evolved relates directly to men's fragrances, and the reason for being of this board for the discussion of men's fragrances - which many interpret as being either solely a board for men, or a board for the discussion of feminine fragrances, or a board for the discussion of men wearing feminine fragrances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato
    Because the topic and it's contents as the discussion has evolved relates directly to men's fragrances, and the reason for being of this board for the discussion of men's fragrances - which many interpret as being either solely a board for men, or a board for the discussion of feminine fragrances, or a board for the discussion of men wearing feminine fragrances.
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    Sorry Renato, you are wrong. *This topic as stated does not relate directly to MEN'S FRAGRANCES. You know better than that. *

    Quote Originally Posted by Renato
    Because the topic and it's contents as the discussion has evolved relates directly to men's fragrances, and the reason for being of this board for the discussion of men's fragrances - which many interpret as being either solely a board for men, or a board for the discussion of feminine fragrances, or a board for the discussion of men wearing feminine fragrances.
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    More like it, Renato, I've regained my respect for your argumentative skills. *But this exact same argument can be said of the discussion of women's fragrances on the men's section, so you, youself, have provided the reason for discussions of women's fragrances on the men's board.

    Now I want to give my response to your questions. *Why do men not post about feminine scents in the feminine discussion site? * Because they don't want to. They want to post in the men's section. *They probably post on the woman's side too. *Where's the crime?

    And is there some feeling of unmanliness involved? *Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. *I've never heard what the fragrance god defined as "unmanly," so I don't know what commandment to obey.

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    It's its not it's.


    (Sorry Renato I couldn't resist. ;D)

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    Is anyone noticing what is happening on this thread. Renato has been severly lagging in his argument and getting virtually no support that men should not wear womens scents that he is now resorting to "if male basenoters do wear womens scents, then why dont you post your comments on the female discussion board" to bolster his argument? Can we say PATHETIC???? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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    In my opinion, if I am wearing the fragrance, its a male fragrance, no matter what the marketing people say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narcus
    My answer would also be docluv's answer, just less sophisticated here. Sometimes I need reassurance from women, sometimes from men. *As concerns masculine fragrances, Renato, I think of your personal preferences highly, and I share a lot of them. It is my impression that we both have grown into liking more exclusive scents during the past twelve to eighteen months, without looking down on some more basic male colognes in our (so different) past. *You post a lot, so I know you a little by now, *and my personal questions on the wearability of a feminine frag would not exactly be directed at you. But there are other men with different ideas, and these are less predictable! It is their opininions I want to consider too. *Maybe I have the wrong idea, but concerning wearability, from Cool Water *to Lauder's Beyond Paradise (women) I need a man's opinion! *His rude directness or drastic comparisons just have more info value (for me).

    A woman's judgement is usually more ambigious, more liberal - too liberal? Ask myself *why few men post in the feminine forum and vice versa? It is a fact! What is there to worry, be that logical or not? I best accept what is there! *Due to the fact that the web houses quite a few lively forums for female fragrances, basenote's female forum is not particularly outstanding (in my opinion). *It is thinly populated in comparison to the male fragrance forum, from which follows: female fragrances have less coverage. Often you find no fragrance details, no review at all concerning a specific fragrance. Many a review is written by persons you never heard of. There are others written by male basenotes members, some of which have a reputation for writing expert male reviews also.

    Basenotes, I bet, is known for it's male forum. Their members are mostly there for a passion, which is perfume. They also consider, even discuss, wearing female fragrances, so what? *(anybody knows the percentage of such threads? It is certainly below the percentage of daily crap everybody must tolerate as unavoidable).
    ACTUALLY, HOW CAN WE AFFORD NOT TO INCLUDE FEMALE FRAGS AS PART OF THE MALE WARDROBE ? Better than having Armani/Lutens decide what is appropriate for men to wear, Roudnitska, or Chandler Burr, let us men decide ourselves, each for himself, us as a group (Musc Ravageur 2005 f?/m?). AS A WORLD WIDE GROUP WE ARE THE EXPERTS, and perfume houses, designers and lifestyle Gurus should listen!

    To try and force the 'borderline' discussions into a special section is not a trifle peculiarity. It could have a killing effect. *How do we determine what is the hard core in male fragrances if you we not know the borders? A discussion like this one helps find the borders.
    * *

    Thanks for your very thoughtful and detailed response. Obviously enough we are coming at this from different premises, so we form different conclusions.

    It may be worth your while testing out the feminine fragrance discussion site just to test out your hypothesis as to whether women are less brutally frank than men. There is only a relatively small proportion of respondees to feminine scent discussions on the men's fragrance discussion site. You may think they are being frank, but I for one *(and I suspect others) just groan in mystification when I come across such topics. You aren't really getting the rude directness you think you are getting - the real rude directness would be something along the lines of - why on earth would any male want to go round smelling girly - is something wrong with your nose - can't you smell a man's scent from a women's one - and you claim you're all experts?
    We used to have members here who would be even harsher than in my previous example, on girly scents like Boss 6 and A*men.

    They aren't around anymore. Some may say thank heavens. I don't - I knew that when they said a scent was masculine - it sure as hell was.

    I consider myself something of an expert on feminine scents - I've bought around a 100 bottles of feminine scents in the last two years, and smelled many more. I think the men's ones are infinitely superior, and I haven't come across one I would remotely consider wearing. Having a deep discussion about the intricacies of lillies of the valley, lilacs, roses and ylang ylang with other guys here, is something you are never going to see from me - it is of zero interest to me.

    Armani and Lutens don't determine what is commonly accepted as appropriate for men to wear. That is decided by the market - which consists half of fragrance buying males, and half of females buying fragrances for men in their lives. Armani makes a lot of money by catering to what they want, and loses money when he doesn't. Lutens isn't all that popular - despite travelling through the perfume shops of three European countries last year, I still haven't seen or smelled one of his scents - from which I conclude his influence is ultra minuscule.

    I seriously doubt that we as a group are the experts here anymore. That stopped about three years ago when the niche craze started - we've diverged significantly from the tastes of the general populations in the countries where we reside. About two years ago, it was not that uncommon for a high school newbie to ask for *simple recommendations here, and to be recommended lots of unisex or feminine smelling Lorenzo Villoresi and Artisan scents which he probably wouldn't like, and couldn't afford if he did. As a group, I thought we looked like pretty useless experts.

    While there is indeed a sub group here who are experts in men's designer scents, there are now very significant numbers here who think they're all rubbish/crap/a waste of money as they're not the height of the artform, namely niche scents. Or nowhere near the quality of something even better - women's scents. When large sections of the board express continuous disdain for designer men's scents - well it kind of makes me think of a science fiction discussion board containing numerous Star Wars types who think all other science fiction is rubbish. And the divergence from the general population is accelerating. This would obviously be seen by many as something good and to be vigorously pursued and encouraged. Which is fair enough, so long as we don't kid ourselves that we as a group are the experts.

    Anyhow, that's my opinion.

    I also take issue with you over your notion that this is a male forum. It isn't. It's subject matter may appeal more to males, but it isn't a male forum. It's open to both sexes to discuss male scent. The fragrance details, reviews and coverage that you lament are missing from the female fragrance discussion board, are only missing because they've been posted on the wrong board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foetidus
    [quote author=Renato link=1144672219/135#137 date=1145611124]
    Because the topic and it's contents as the discussion has evolved relates directly to men's fragrances, and the reason for being of this board for the discussion of men's fragrances - which many interpret as being either solely a board for men, or a board for the discussion of feminine fragrances, or a board for the discussion of men wearing feminine fragrances.
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    Sorry Renato, you are wrong. *This topic as stated does not relate directly to MEN'S FRAGRANCES. You know better than that. *

    Quote Originally Posted by Renato
    Because the topic and it's contents as the discussion has evolved relates directly to men's fragrances, and the reason for being of this board for the discussion of men's fragrances - which many interpret as being either solely a board for men, or a board for the discussion of feminine fragrances, or a board for the discussion of men wearing feminine fragrances.
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    More like it, Renato, I've regained my respect for your argumentative skills. *But this exact same argument can be said of the discussion of women's fragrances on the men's section, so you, youself, have provided the reason for discussions of women's fragrances on the men's board.

    Now I want to give my response to your questions. *Why do men not post about feminine scents in the feminine discussion site? * Because they don't want to. They want to post in the men's section. *They probably post on the woman's side too. *Where's the crime?

    And is there some feeling of unmanliness involved? *Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. *I've never heard what the fragrance god defined as "unmanly," so I don't know what commandment to obey. [/quote]
    Hi again,
    Well I knew they didn't want to post in the feminine fragrance discussion - that was why I asked the question in the first place. I suggested a possible reason in my second question. It just stikes me as odd, it seems like a case of - I'm manly enough to wear women's scents, and discuss them with my manly male buddies, but I'm not manly enough to call a spade a spade and discuss them in the female fragrance discussion, where such scents are meant to be discussed - it might be considered a tad girly perhaps?
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    It's its not it's.


    (Sorry Renato I couldn't resist. ;D)
    You are one 100% correct. I wish we had a grammar and spell checker here.
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    In my opinion, if I am wearing the fragrance, its a male fragrance, no matter what the marketing people say.

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    So, if I come across a big hairy brute of a man, wearing pink lace panties and a bra, and he says to me "I am wearing these clothes, so they are men's clothes" - I just nod and unconditionally agree with him, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosbergs3
    Is anyone noticing what is happening on this thread. *Renato has been severly lagging in his argument and getting virtually no support that men should not wear womens scents that he is now resorting to "if male basenoters do wear womens scents, then why dont you post your comments on the female discussion board" to bolster his argument? *Can we say PATHETIC???? * :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
    You could indeed, if there were any substance to your proposition.
    Feel free to check back on anything I wrote and find just one single instance of my saying "Men should not wear women's scents".
    You won't find one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato
    [quote author=sjas1962 link=1144672219/135#141 date=1145622850]In my opinion, if I am wearing the fragrance, its a male fragrance, no matter what the marketing people say.

    Regards,
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    So, if I come across a big hairy brute of a man, wearing pink lace panties and a bra, and he says to me "I am wearing these clothes, so they are men's clothes" *- *I just nod and unconditionally agree with him, right?
    Renato[/quote]


    We're back to the beginning point here......the supposition that men wearing "women's scent is analagous to men wearing women's clothes: and its not analagous. Not only is it not analagous but what's considered men's clothing and women's clothing varies per culture. Go ahead and see what happens if you go tell some big burly Scotsman he's a pussy girlyman because he wears a "skirt" You might end up eating your teeth for lunch.

    The main reason its not analagous is...... perfume was originally created as unisex......obviously our culture has changed it into a gender based issue & marketing ploy.......I sure hope this doesn't happen in the food category. Us women won't suffer because as you know women get to cross most gender lines with little or no repercussions. I can wear pants.......wear men's cologne and not be attacked for it or assumed gay for that matter. So if food ever becomes gender based like perfume has.......You guys will be stuck eating heros, pizza, all sloppy food will be deemed masculine food. All Italian food will be deemed masculine becuase its pasta & messy and of course you guys will need thos all maculine testerone laden grills to prove just what a manly cook you really are. All asian food is feminine because it requires chop sticks and that takes more coordination and finesse....definitely a feminine trait. Also......all fusion cuisine or anything served with any type of garnish is oh so feminine and if a man eats any of this in public he will be deemed a cross eater!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato
    [quote author=sjas1962 link=1144672219/135#141 date=1145622850]In my opinion, if I am wearing the fragrance, its a male fragrance, no matter what the marketing people say.

    Regards,
    Steve
    So, if I come across a big hairy brute of a man, wearing pink lace panties and a bra, and he says to me "I am wearing these clothes, so they are men's clothes" *- *I just nod and unconditionally agree with him, right?
    Renato[/quote]

    Uhm Renato. I don't follow you here. Bras and panties are made for certain anatomical specifics. Culture has nothing to do with that.

    It has a lot to do, though, with the idea that a man should smell in a certain way because that's what is more 'inherently' masculine, or that he should be allowed not to disguise his own animalic bodily scent while a woman should keep it in check instead.

    One one hand - bras and panties - the object is a symbol of what IS actually there. *On the other - scent - the object serves the purpose of evoking what cultural habits suppose SHOULD be there - i.e., a perfectly clean, harmless, frilly and flowery-scented womanhood.

    I think.

    Buffalo Gal: Had Renato picked 'skirt' instead of 'bras' or 'panties' a true analogy would have been established, and his theorem would have been invalidated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo_Gal
    [quote author=Renato link=1144672219/135#145 date=1145624927][quote author=sjas1962 link=1144672219/135#141 date=1145622850]In my opinion, if I am wearing the fragrance, its a male fragrance, no matter what the marketing people say.

    Regards,
    Steve
    So, if I come across a big hairy brute of a man, wearing pink lace panties and a bra, and he says to me "I am wearing these clothes, so they are men's clothes" *- *I just nod and unconditionally agree with him, right?
    Renato[/quote]


    We're back to the beginning point here......the supposition that men wearing "women's scent is analagous to men wearing women's clothes: and its not analagous. *Not only is it not analagous but what's considered men's clothing and women's clothing varies per culture. * Go ahead and see what happens if you go tell some big burly Scotsman he's a pussy girlyman because he wears a "skirt" You might end up eating your teeth for lunch.



    Well put.

    and by the way...my scent of the day is Agent Provocateur.

    Regards,
    Steve

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