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    Default Musc Ravageur, the Body Shop Edition

    Yeah, i know it may sound weird...

    Anyway, I've been thoroughly enjoying the free sample of MR that i got, and it works surprisingly well in the hot and humid weather here in Singapore. A pleasant surprise.

    You can imagine just how much more surprised i was when i smelled someone else in the office wearing the same scent! I thought i had finally found someone else in this country who appreciates fragrances as exquisite as the Malle series... So I walked up to him and asked him what he was wearing.

    My jaw dropped when he said it was "Body Shop stuff". Specifically, his sister had bought cinnamon, white musk and vanilla oils from body shop and blended them. The resemblance to MR is absolutely uncanny. Fantastic, smooth sillage. I'll need to find out what the exact proportions are that she used, but needless to say, if i can spend $20 in body shop as compared to $200 online and still get that fantastic "MR" feeling...

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    Wow, you must get this info and share it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrOfTheSoul
    Wow, you must get this info and share it.
    That's the plan.

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    Haven't smelled any of the Body Shop oils, but I would imagine that it was a 2:1:1 ratio, cinnamon being the benevolent of the other two, but then again for the person who doesn't want to fuss with proportions, it would be a 1:1:1 deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iMaverick
    Haven't smelled any of the Body Shop oils, but I would imagine that it was a 2:1:1 ratio, cinnamon being the benevolent of the other two, but then again for the person who doesn't want to fuss with proportions, it would be a 1:1:1 deal.

    I'm actually going to try to get the exact proportions... It just smelled so unbelievably like MR, I don't want to get the mix wrong and wind up with something that smells "close, but no cigar".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae
    Yeah, i know it may sound weird...

    Anyway, I've been thoroughly enjoying the free sample of MR that i got, and it works surprisingly well in the hot and humid weather here in Singapore. A pleasant surprise.

    You can imagine just how much more surprised i was when i smelled someone else in the office wearing the same scent! I thought i had finally found someone else in this country who appreciates fragrances as exquisite as the Malle series... So I walked up to him and asked him what he was wearing.

    My jaw dropped when he said it was "Body Shop stuff". Specifically, his sister had bought cinnamon, white musk and vanilla oils from body shop and blended them. The resemblance to MR is absolutely uncanny. Fantastic, smooth sillage. I'll need to find out what the exact proportions are that she used, but needless to say, if i can spend $20 in body shop as compared to $200 online and still get that fantastic "MR" feeling...
    * * *

    The cinnamon mentioned - would that be 'Cinnamon spice' by any chance? If this works... oh boy! (prefer oils to perfume any day) *
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    I'm going shopping for the materials tomorrow. Will report back with results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moondeva

    The cinnamon mentioned - would that be 'Cinnamon spice' by any chance? If this works... oh boy! (prefer oils to perfume any day) *
    ;D ;D *:-* :-* ;D ;D

    Would have to be Cinnamon Spice, its the only cinnamon they have. *At $10 USD per oil, why not experiment? Vanilla, White musk and Cinnamon.....hhmmmmmm. Heck, I have a Body Shop just down the road; I volunteer to experiment as well!

    Musc Ravageur has the following notes:

    Top note : *Bergamote, Mandarine (tangerine en francais) *
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    Middle note : *Cannelle (cinnamon en francais), Vanille *

    Base note : *Musc, Ambre *

    So where was the amber and citrus coming from, I wonder? BS does have a mandarin massage oil, but no amber.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sanddrift
    [quote author=moondeva link=1141264587/0#5 date=1141294362]

    The cinnamon mentioned - would that be 'Cinnamon spice' by any chance? If this works... oh boy! (prefer oils to perfume any day) *
    ;D ;D *:-* :-* ;D ;D
    So where was the amber and citrus coming from, I wonder? BS does have a mandarin massage oil, but no amber.

    [/quote]

    I think the 2005 formulation of the vanilla oil has quite a heavy hint of amber to it (the golden coloured perfume oil not the most recent clear oil) and the citrus is provided by the Cinnamon spice il. I have this and on my skin it is definitely a citrus (warm orange) dominated fragrance - reminiscent of one of those home made pomanders (a whole orange with cloves stuck into it and left to 'cure' for 2-4 weeks before being hung out to gently freshen the air and closed spaces like wardrobes). A very christmassy scent. Only TBS has used cinnamon instead of cloves so it is much 'smoother' and floral than a pomander.

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    I would use quite a bit of the White Musk oil. Musk notes tends to disappear when you mix it with other stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concord
    I would use quite a bit of the White Musk oil. Musk notes tends to disappear when you mix it with other stuff.

    Yup! Exactly what she used. The white musk adds a little of the citrus-like spice to it too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esan Sal
    I'm going shopping for the materials tomorrow. Will report back with results.
    Remember, you need to let it settle for a couple days

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    I saw this topic and I went to the Body Shop today. I noticed the little bottles of fragrance oils but I didn't buy any. Next time I go, I'll pick some up to experiment with.

    What are you guys mixing them in? A decant vial?
    No longer offering decants. Sorry!

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    Default Re: Musc Ravageur, the Body Shop Edition

    im waiting on a decant of musc ravageur right now so id love to get the correct proportions and experiment in duplicating it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae
    [quote author=Esan Sal link=1141264587/0#6 date=1141303821]I'm going shopping for the materials tomorrow. Will report back with results.
    Remember, you need to let it settle for a couple days[/quote]

    I did. I'll try #1 tomorrow.

    I'm mixing it in a nice big vial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysteria

    What are you guys mixing them in? A decant vial?
    Yup! I bought the scentless oil from body shop and am using that to dilute the oils. I have 4 different recipes settling now, will try them tomorrow. I have high hopes for number 3.

    (Pssst.... Is "Rashkae Number 3" copyrighable? )

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    I am so excited about this *has EVERYTHING crossed*

    3 is my lucky number so...

    I want to use this (if it works) to deepen my sample so that it lasts longer on my skin. I so prefer oils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moondeva
    I am so excited about this *has EVERYTHING crossed*

    3 is my lucky number so...

    I want to use this (if it works) to deepen my sample so that it lasts longer on my skin. I so prefer oils.

    :

    Yup, it'll be an oil... But you really really have to dilute it!!!

    By the way, I still haven't gotten the exact recipe from her, but I'm trying combos with a dash of sandalwood, and also trying both the japanaese musk and the white musk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae
    Yup, it'll be an oil... But you really really have to dilute it!!!

    By the way, I still haven't gotten the exact recipe from her, but I'm trying combos with a dash of sandalwood, and also trying both the japanaese musk and the white musk.
    Good gosh!

    Great minds think alike, mon ami! I went sniffing through my collection of oils and thought how she might have used a little Woody Sandalwood as it has that wonderful clove top note and the same rich woody ambery drydown as that in MR. Was going to suggest then got shy! :-[

    i would really love to hear how all mixes turn out as I love Japanese Musk as well.
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    Rashkae

    I just tested an old pure (undiluted) mix I had of TBS oils (Woody sandalwood, Vanilla, Japanese Musk) against my FM sample and can totally see that how the TBS oil mix can work. However, I think that Japanese Musk won't work in this case as there is a 'high pitched' note that throughs the whole mix off. I think it is the muguet top note in the JM otherwise it is quite similar to MR.

    On my skin MR is almost chocolatey - the vanilla and the musk in both the white musk and the cinnamon spice don't on initial sniff seem 'dark' or dense enough to recreate the same impression. Any thoughts? :-?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moondeva

    On my skin MR is almost chocolatey - the vanilla and the musk in both the white musk and the cinnamon spice don't on initial sniff seem 'dark' or dense enough to recreate the same impression. Any thoughts? :-?

    On my skin, MR is a well-rounded vanilla with just the hint of spice.

    This is the mix that, on my skin at least, smells almost exactly like the MR dry-down:

    2 parts Vanilla
    2 parts Cinnamon spice (a very weak oil)
    1 part Sandalwood (very strong stuff)
    2 parts White musk
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    I've been following this thread with great interest. Now might be the time to go shopping for ingredients...

    Thank you for your research!

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    Quote Originally Posted by viktorov
    I've been following this thread with great interest. Now might be the time to go shopping for ingredients...

    Thank you for your research!

    No problem!

    Don't forget:

    1. DILUTE the oils. NEVER apply the pure oils to your skin!
    2. Your mileage may vary... Just like the original MR will vary from skin to skin, so will these scents. Though the oil base will help consistency

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae

    No problem!

    Don't forget:

    1. DILUTE the oils. NEVER apply the pure oils to your skin!
    2. Your mileage may vary... Just like the original MR will vary from skin to skin, so will these scents. Though the oil base will help consistency
    Just to clarify (my brain is mush today) :-[ :-[ :-[

    Do I dilute the oils in separate bottles BEFORE making a batch? For example make up 5 ml 'tincture' for vanilla oil and then mix 2mls of this tincture into the mix.

    Or

    Do I dilute AFTER? Example. I make up 'essence' 5ml bottle of the 'pure' oils and then dilute (n) drops of essence in 5ml of plain (jojoba, almond) oil.

    Sorry if stupid question but thank you for guidance / help. :-?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moondeva

    Just to clarify (my brain is mush today) :-[ :-[ :-[

    Do I dilute the oils in separate bottles BEFORE making a batch? For example make up 5 ml 'tincture' for vanilla oil and then mix 2mls of this tincture into the mix.

    Or

    Do I dilute AFTER? Example. I make up 'essence' 5ml bottle of the 'pure' oils and then dilute (n) drops of essence in 5ml of plain (jojoba, almond) oil.

    Sorry if stupid question but thank you for guidance / help. :-?
    Well, what i did was get a 5ml sampler bottle, and filled it with about 3ml of the unscented body shop oil (a little more than half way). Then added the ingredients in drops:

    2 drops Vanilla
    2 drops Cinnamon spice (a very weak oil)
    1 drop Sandalwood (very strong stuff)
    2 drops White musk
    1 drop Lavender

    And shook it well, then left it to sit.

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    Rashkae, fantastic thread and great details! Did you buy your empty 5ml sampler bottle at the Body Shop as well? The reason I ask is because I don't have any empty decant vials to use.

    Also, why is it important to dilute the pure oils with unscented oil?

    Another thing: Are these the little oils you bought? They're called Home Fragrance oils:

    http://shop.store.yahoo.com/thebodys...ragrance-.html

    However, I couldn't find the unscented oil on the Body Shop website. Do you have a photo of the product so I know what I'm looking for?

    Thanks!

    And to anyone else, who has tried making Noir Epices? I LOVE that one and I wear it even more than my Musc Ravageur. However, my nose isn't very well-developed and I wouldn't even know where to begin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysteria
    And to anyone else, who has tried making Noir Epices? I LOVE that one and I wear it even more than my Musc Ravageur. However, my nose isn't very well-developed and I wouldn't even know where to begin!
    I love Noir Epices as well. I don't know about which individual oils to use to recreate this scent though. However, there is still good news!

    I find that Noir Epices is a rich green chypre with strong 'peppery' spicy top notes and a nice whack of leather in the base. The following perfumes (haven't found any men's yet. Maybe the guys can suggest some?) are similar or have the same character - at least on my skin:

    Givenchy III (discontinued) - same leathery green chypre but less spicy at start. The spice definitely shows up in the drydown. Sublime!

    Miss Balmain - This is the close cousin or love child of Givenchy III & Cabochard and will also satisfy some of your Noir Epice cravings.

    Paloma Picasso - parfum. I find the EDT & EDP too sharp / acrid in the beginning but it may work for you (you MUST try) and there is no real sense of similarity until the late dry down. The parfum is much smoother and more sweetly mossy like Noir.

    Bandit - EDP & above. There is some confusion whether this is for men or women. I have actually seen separate versions for men and women (men's has a gold lid) but feel that Bandit is more unisex and should be worn by those who love it!

    Jolie Madame - this is not exactly similar. In fact you may find it too girly for you due to the violets but I feel this chypre leather beauty should not be so swiftly discarded and is dynamite on the right chemistry whether it be man, woman or child. Perfect for this spring time. If you have tried Miss Balmian then you are half way familiar with this - just add violets.

    I would ignore the gender barriers and try all of these - I am sure you will discover new (more affordable) favourites to compliment / suppliment your Noir Epices. I strongly recommend the Givenchy III & Miss Balmain as interesting possible supplements / replacements.

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    Rushkae,
    Musc Ravageur is a really simple scent - and to be honest I don't smell much more than those three notes in it: cinnamon, vanilla and musk. It's simple and delicioius. Good luck with the more affordable re-creation! Keep us posted when you get the proportions right - or just open your Musc Ravageur dupe-store on eBay
    By the way, I think the Body Shop oils are already diluted in the base - the ones with the applicator. It's ok to mix them and apply direct to the skin.
    The home-scenting ones, however, should not be worn on the skin diluted or undiluted, they are designed for scenting the environment only, and may not be safe for your skin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysteria
    Rashkae, fantastic thread and great details! Did you buy your empty 5ml sampler bottle at the Body Shop as well? The reason I ask is because I don't have any empty decant vials to use.

    Also, why is it important to dilute the pure oils with unscented oil?

    Another thing: Are these the little oils you bought? They're called Home Fragrance oils:

    http://shop.store.yahoo.com/thebodys...ragrance-.html

    However, I couldn't find the unscented oil on the Body Shop website. Do you have a photo of the product so I know what I'm looking for?

    Thanks!

    And to anyone else, who has tried making Noir Epices? I LOVE that one and I wear it even more than my Musc Ravageur. However, my nose isn't very well-developed and I wouldn't even know where to begin!
    Hi there!

    1. No, I used 4 empty 5ml tester vial i had left over.

    2. Pure oils are so strong that they can seriously damage your skin.

    3. No, I used the "Perfume Oils":
    http://shop.store.yahoo.com/thebodys...ragrance-.html

    4. It's the generic massage oil. Looks like this:
    http://shop.store.yahoo.com/thebodys...unmasoil1.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayala
    Rushkae,
    Musc Ravageur is a really simple scent - and to be honest I don't smell much more than those three notes in it: cinnamon, vanilla and musk. It's simple and delicioius. Good luck with the more affordable re-creation! Keep us posted when you get the proportions right - or just open your Musc Ravageur dupe-store on eBay
    By the way, I think the Body Shop oils are already diluted in the base - the ones with the applicator. It's ok to mix them and apply direct to the skin.
    The home-scenting ones, however, should not be worn on the skin diluted or undiluted, they are designed for scenting the environment only, and may not be safe for your skin.
    Hey there! Yeah, MR is such a simple scent that it's fairly easy to re-create. And the ingredients are easy to find too.

    AAAAH, ok, thanks. I may have gotten the risks of perfume oil and home fragrance oils mixed up. Still though, even diluted, they smell pretty strong.

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