I bought both Declaration and Declaration Essence today in a local department store for half price in the January sales.
Both bottles are marked "Limited Edition." Does this mean they are different from the standard scents? The Essence is beautful, with a woody scent underpinned by chocolate and citrus. The Declaration is slightly more citrussy, but also has a chocolate note.
The Essence LE bottle is blue with a brown graduation at the bottom. The Declaration LE bottle is also brown at the bottom, graduating upward into a sea-green and then a pale yellow-green at the top.
Can anyone tell me more about these fragrances?
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"Wow, I've never smelled anything like that before."
Declaration smells fine but after experiencing later Ellena creations it smells like a sparse incomplete framework which he has filled in with his later works. The cumin note stands out at time and may be more perceptible to some.
I find similarities with Bulgari au the Verte, which shares many of the same notes...it lacks cumin but displays a somewhat similar crisp peppery accord with better balanced florals and a kick of green tea. I like the story behind au The Verte...Ellena shipping it around to various houses but none willing to take it on...in the end the fragrance got the success it deserved (via Bulgari) and still stands as one of Ellena's finest works. If Declaration doesn't work for you, give au The Verte a try.
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It's good to see this thread come back.
The limited edition bottles mentioned above were probably just limited edition packaging.
I think the juice is the same.
I think this is one of Ellena's better fragrances.
I don't think it's too similar to Terre, but I've only briefly sampled Terre. They are both
from the same perfumer, so there may be more similarity than I've detected.
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After having my last drop more than 2 years ago, this thread has got me thinking of it once again.
thx zztop & trumpet_guy
There is also an Bulgari au the Verte EXTREME version from ellena. I hope that thay are not too Neutral. and for declaration i hope i can use it as an office scent.
"Wow, I've never smelled anything like that before."
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the above two comparisons...right there i dotn agree... yang is tea based...and declaration is kinda gourmand...i like de3claration, but only on others...maybe it doesnt suit my personality..but hey, i always go..wow, tht smells so rich whn others wear it...
didn´t recognized that in declaration is a chocolate note. Is that the reason why you call it kinda gourmand ?
"Wow, I've never smelled anything like that before."
To me knowledge there is no chocolate in declaration and this is the first I've heard of it. To me, it is fresh notes, smoked woods, and a dash of cumin which comes out on some people and not as much on others.
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I was going to make THE CARTIER DECLARATION THREAD but I thought I'd just bump this.
In my thread Looking for a bright, energetic fragrance, Cartier Declaration (original) was mentioned. I sampled it today, and damn, do I like it, even if it's not the vibe that I was looking for there.
I have many questions about it now, some that I've read up on already: Basically, there are Cologne, EDT, and Essence formulations. I sampled the EDT today. I can't seem to get a consensus on what the difference is between the EDT and the Essence (and the Cologne). There are many contradictory things written. If anyone else wants to chip in their two cents, feel free. Secondly, like most fragrances, would anyone care to claim that this one has suffered through reformulation, and if so, how? (I wouldn't mind looking for vintage if it's even better.) Lastly, Declaration is sold super cheap online on Ebay and Amazon, like 50-75% off retail at Nieman Marcus and the like--Is this legit?
There appear to be some differences in taste concerning the cardamom/cumin note, but I like it. It's flavorful, spicy, interesting, has gravitas. All good, in my book.
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Unfortunately don't know the answers to your questions, but i agree that it's a very good one. The original Declaration. I have 2 edt bottles, both several years old.
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Chanel Antaeus (vtg) (Jaques Polge, 1981)
Terre d' Hermes EDT (2006-2009) (Jean-Claude Ellena, 2006)
Green Irish Tweed (Probably Oliver Creed / Pierre Bourdon, 1985)
Eau de Rochas Pour Homme (Gilles Romey, 1993)
Bleu de Chanel EDP (Jaques Polge, 2014)
Dolce & Gabbana Pour Homme (vtg) (Max Gavary, 1994)
Chanel Allure Homme (vtg) (Jaques Polge, 1999)
Have been wearing this today as my scent of the day. I think it's a very sensual fragrance and I'm impressed with the development on my skin and it has great longevity. The only thing I wish was better is the projection which is below average. Great scent though and I think I will pick up the Essence version and compare.
Having read concerns of reformulations, I went yesterday to sephora to smell for myself. To my great relief the new bottles smelled the same as my old one. To my nose no change
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Declaration is a wonderful scent and glad it forms part of my collection.
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Layer upon layer of spicy subtlety always strike me, naturally in a pleasant way, whenever I get to sense this fragrance.
It's a versatile workhorse fragrance - probably one of JC Ellena's finest work. The Essence and Bois Bleu flankers are equally good IMO.
As to the differences between the original EdT and the Essence (both of which I own): They open similarly, with a rush of citrus and spices, and cardamom is a major player in both versions. After the opening, original Declaration continues along its merry, citrus/spicy way, and has a shimmering quality - it sort of fades in and out of detectability and feels very sheer, not thick or heavy at all. Essence, however, takes a turn down a woodier, slightly sweeter path, and the scent itself has a bit less sprightliness, but more density. The base notes also have more body to them - I believe labdanum is included in Essence's formula, and I do smell some of its heft, as well as a stronger cedar note than the original. The original is bone-dry and almost medicinal at times; Essence is slightly more damp and less biting. I wear Declaration almost exclusively in the summer; Essence gets a lot of play from early spring to early fall. Neither have enough heft for winter wear, in my opinion; they're both on the sheer, breathable side, and I like my winter scents to be brick-wall thick.
Both Declaration and Essence are my "desert island" scents (I refuse to pick only one, lest I have a Sophie's Choice-esque moment of panic right here on a message board). Glad these classics have found another fan!
I have recently purchased both the original and essence declaration bottles and love the original but do not think much of the essence version.
I mean the essence smells nice but is lacking when compared to the original Declaration. It's darker and seems to be missing a lot of what made the original great. The longevity only seems to last for three hours or so where I would get all day with the original though the projection seems to be the same at just below average.
This Essence version feels like the B version of Declaration where everything is not as streamlined or satisfying. With the original Declaration you get the whole show with a complex symphony of notes where the fragrance actually gets better and better as time goes by. It's rare for me where four/five hours pass and you are liking a scent better and better.
With the essence it starts in the mid to basenotes of the original with a lot of notes stripped out. It's like your getting half a show with a back up singer instead of the star of the show.
I have tried both but I only went as far as owning the original EdT. Yes, it has been reformulated but it isn't too drastic. I originally tried the EdT of Declaration a few years ago and got a bottle very cheaply in the Christmas sales. At some point I associated the cumin and cardamom notes to an Indian restaurant and then started to go off it so I gave my bottle away.
Whilst on honeymoon this past summer though, I tried it again. It projected very well in the heat so I ended up getting another cheap bottle from an online retailer and have got on well with it since.
Didn't like the Essence at all and I remember getting as far as the opening before I went to wash it off. Didn't try it properly though, so I can't give a detailed account as Jack did above.
Had received two edt samples so decided to try this out today...
Declaration totally blew me off my feet...went a bit heavy (7 sprays) and the mid and base notes are awesome! Kept smelling it hovering all around me and super!
Projection and sillage I would say is low,though I kept smelling it and was worried it may have been too strong, had to get close to people to detect it.
Longevity lasted nearly 8 hrs on my skin, with a whiff now and then coming through upto 7 hrs or so.
Definetly gonna get a full bottle of this! Wasn't expecting it to be this delectable :-)
Now am really curious to try the pepper+rose declaration ...
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when i saw this thread i thought of my sample Declaration EdT i got last year.
Because at that time i solved many natural resins the first thing that came to my mind when i smelled Declaration:
Just back from my cellar i compared my Galbanum-solution with Declaration.
Again i thought this could be a fairly good match.
Is it only me that thinks of Galbanum or have you the same impression...?
It isn't sayd from me that there must be Galbanum in this perfume maybe this is a good impression of galbanum made with other materials.
would be very curious for your thoughts...
I get a lot similarities not identical folks to TDh...nice frag but TDh does it way better!!!
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I agree, this is a find fragrance. Nice to see the members from days of old. My where have they gone? lol
Is the juice worth the squeeze?
One of my favorites. I get frequent compliments on this one, too. I used to think it was similar to Terre d'Hermes, but not so much anymore, apart from the "dirty" citrus quality in the beginning. Otherwise they're pretty darned different. I find Declaration to be more cheerful and smooth, whereas TdH has a rugged, earthier quality.