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  1. #31

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    I'm curious...for those who don't want to smell "feminine" is it because you yourself don't like the smell and connotations OR is it because you don't want to be perceived as feminine by others? or both??

    I think that the majority of the non-fragrance wearing male population probably thinks that any male who wears perfume is a little feminine (even guys who make a point of only wearing ultra "masculine" fragrances!).

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    <Quote from Indie_Guy>
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    Very good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aztec
    I'm curious...for those who don't want to smell "feminine" is it because you yourself don't like the smell and connotations OR is it because you don't want to be perceived as feminine by others? or both??
    both, but mostly me.

    I think that the majority of the non-fragrance wearing male population probably thinks that any male who wears perfume is a little feminine (even guys who make a point of only wearing ultra "masculine" fragrances!).
    for me, i don't care what other guys think. they aren't really "in the picture", so to speak. it's the ladies that matter.


    Quote Originally Posted by iMaverick
    Relax, "guys" will ya' ???;D I just bought Dior Homme, and like I posted on another thread, this scent really steps on boundaries between feminine and masculine...
    heh heh yeah. it's just idle chitchat. i don't think anyone's really offended... at least i hope not. and sure, there are unisex scents. but ya know, the fact that you describe a scent as being between masculine and feminine shows that you do have the unspoken understanding or gut feeling about what is a masculine vs feminine scent. i believe this is true with the vast majority of ppl. which is why i say that what you wear says something to others, even if you don't care what it says. but of course the bottom line is that everyone should wear what they want. we all agree on that.





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  4. #34

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    Its that damn orchid in Nu that makes it unwearable on me. Take the orchid out and its a different story. I think Nu just needs to go ahead and have "the surgery" lol.

    Anyway, as I've said before, some guy teased me when I was wearing Hanae Mori saying I smelled "purty". I think Hanae Mori is unisex, but I've never felt it was feminine in the least.

    This whole debate got me to drag out some samples of some women's stuff i was sent from MJH a while back. Jicky, Bandit, and Habanita. All three completely wearable on a man- but it would have to be like a distinguished gentleman. Not something I could pull off just yet. Still enjoy sniffing them.

    But for me wearing Nu is a No.

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    I come from a generation where if the scent doesn't smell like gasoline or turpentine, it's women's perfume, hehe!

    Just be happy that we don't have to wear wigs, lace collars and cuffs, and velvet or silk bows on our shoes to be considered gentlemen anymore! It's funny how after thousands of years of evolution, the male sex still isn't comfortable in his own skin.

    And as for Dior Homme, two women who sniffed it on me today loved it. I wore Black Cashmere once to work, it wears so close to the skin that I haven't had reactions to it, but I don't think anyone would wonder what "gender" it is.

    And don't worry, Indie, stuff like Bandit is so ambiguous I've actually been to websites that have it down as Bandit for Men.

    But people tell me, what are your opinions on a woman that wears Fahrenheit? I know one woman that does, but I didn't find it an attractive scent on a woman, and Indie, did the woman who wore Nu smell attractive to you?
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  6. #36

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    I read every single post in this thread...very interesting...

    My story about Nu - my first bottle was given to me by a woman who didn't like it because she found it too masculine. That bottle went to a straight buddy who had no idea it wasn't a men's fragrance, and he probably still doesn't, in his words "this stuff is da bomb".

    Yesterday my bottles of Escada Collection and Brit Gold arrived. Both "for women". Both heavenly, if not a bit on the sweet side. When I find women's scents that I adore I remind myself to stop searching the "men's" fragrance lists, because as an enthusiast, there is so much I would miss out on.

    I've smelled guys that smelled like fruit or flowers...why? Their hair products. Their laundry detergent. They hugged their girlfriend. They're wearing Joop, or Aqua di Gio, or D&G Blue (sold as a men's scent here in many Japanese shops).

    I think what's most imprtant is that we smell good - the fact we wear fragrance at all says something about the images we project. of course, what I think smells good, and what other people think smells good isn't always the same, so I think it comes down to this - a scent is generally unwearable (because of it's perceived gender) only by someone who is worried about what others think...and really, that's not such a bad thing...but I wanna wear what I like.

    Blah, blah, blah...I wanna say more but think I'll stop here...after all, who am I trying to convince?

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    Cute story (even if I am late to the party) and I do love NU edp.
    I find it very warm and spicy and cuddly and would imagine it would suit a man admirably.

    As to men wearing women's scents : well , it depends on the man. If he's masculine looking enough , no amount of rose fragrance could deduce from it , no matter how hard he tried...... Imagine Sean Connery for example. Would he look less of a man wearing a woman's scent?
    (actually he does wear a woman's scent, he wears Jicky , as you can see in my site PerfumeShrine)

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    I would absolutely never wear women's scents for that reason.

    People would recognize them as being women's, no matter how supposedly masculine they smelled. And there is no way that I would want anyone, even a strager in the subway or on the street, to wonder why I would wear a woman's perfume.

    And since I dress and act like a traditional gentleman at all times, I find wearing a cologne enhances the image. And in no way would a woman's fragrance do just that.

    There were times where I wore men's fragrances that border on being unisex, because I really liked the smell. But I always eventually gave them away. Or now after finding Basenotes, I would come to my senses and swap them.

  9. #39

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    To add to my own thread... *8-)

    The other day I told a woman I was wearing #22. She exclaimed, "That's a woman's scent!" I explained that men wear it too sometimes. She wasn't buying it. I got a response. I know what she was thinking (I think). She probably thinks, "Now, why would this guy wear woman's perfume?" She came closer and took a whiff. She said, "It smells nice, but you smell like a woman."

    I guess we have to understand that some people will think and feel this way. It is somewhat of a risk. Why it is risky - is a long story.

    I think it is fair to say that there is the possibility that this can have some far-reaching implications.

    I get the feeling that this subject will always be "like religion and politics."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeFromManhattan
    And since I dress and act like a traditional gentleman at all times, I find wearing a cologne enhances the image.
    What do you mean by 'traditional' gentleman? :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xen
    [quote author=MikeFromManhattan link=1130364485/30#37 date=1130408884]And since I dress and act like a traditional gentleman at all times, I find wearing a cologne enhances the image.
    What do you mean by 'traditional' gentleman? *:-/[/quote]

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeFromManhattan
    [quote author=Xen link=1130364485/30#39 date=1130413078][quote author=MikeFromManhattan link=1130364485/30#37 date=1130408884]And since I dress and act like a traditional gentleman at all times, I find wearing a cologne enhances the image.
    What do you mean by 'traditional' gentleman? :-/[/quote]

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    I was thinking gentleman's cane, top hat, vest, tailcoat etc etc... ;D

  13. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by smitsky
    To add to my own thread... *8-)

    The other day I told a woman I was wearing #22. She exclaimed, "That's a woman's scent!" I explained that men wear it too sometimes. She wasn't buying it. I got a response. I know what she was thinking (I think). She probably thinks, "Now, why would this guy wear woman's perfume?" She came closer and took a whiff. She said, "It smells nice, but you smell like a woman."
    But that was after you had told her the name. Maybe she wouldn´t have made that coment if she didn´t know which one it was?
    If I smelled a noticable sillage of Coco Mademoiselle I would maybe expect to see a woman, but if I turned around and saw a man I would be pleasantly surprised and probably think "well here´s a person genuinly interested in perfumes, who doesn´t care about wich gender it is marketed towards" (that certainly doesn´t have to be the case, but It could be). As always, it depends on for which reason we were fragrances. Do we were them to send out unmistakable signals (based upon habit, tradition, biology or whatever it might be...not so important here)about which gender we belong to? I don´t. I can feel uncomfortable in to heavy musky fragrances, but there are chypres and fougères marketed towards men (or that would be marketed towards men if they had been achieved before the unisex era) that I enjoy wearing. But maybe some people do, and then it´s probably more rewarding to avoid Coco mademoiselle, Nu, No 5, No 2 and the others. So, i would say, as has been said many times, wear what you like, and feel comfortable in, and what suits your motives.

    Quote Originally Posted by scenteur7
    I've smelled guys that smelled like fruit or flowers...why? Their hair products. Their laundry detergent. They hugged their girlfriend. They're wearing Joop, or Aqua di Gio, or D&G Blue (sold as a men's scent here in many Japanese shops).
    Exacly! There are so many other things that help creating our scent, than the actual fragrance. And apart from all these scented products we use; traces from where we have been, what we have done, the weather, the season, the fabrics of our clothes, etc. OK, a fragrance is something we chose, but our skin and body chemistry, and the rest of our scent-arsenal filters it to something unique on us.


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    I have a Nu story too.

    One morning I was making rounds and I noticed a wonderful scent at the nurse's station as I walked by. I intentionally walked back to see if I could find the source. It seemed to be coming from a male colleague and I exclaimed, "Is it you who smells so good? What is that?" He replied "YSL Nu". I was awestruck, but it smelled great on him. I do have to admit it changed my impression of him. I had been aware of him as a soft-spoken, pleasant and caring physician--don't really know him that well. Had never discussed personal life with him other than "what's up this weekend" stuff, but when I put his character, his excellent dress and grooming, and the "feminine" perfume together, it struck me that he was probably gay--a thought I'd never had before, and perhaps totally unfounded. I have moved since then so I never had a chance to get any closure on this story. Of course, I have worn Nu before and since, and I wouldn't jump to the same conclusions about myself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indie_Guy
    The Nu was coming from a blonde lady sitting at the bar. Yes, I know its all wrong for blondes, but that's not the issue. Just kidding, actually I think I may like it better on blondes because it makes them smolder a bit.
    Well, Indie_Guy, I always like reading your job-related scented stories. And I am blond and Nu is about the only musk-based scent that I wear and enjoy, even during the dog-days of summer. I also enjoy wearing woody-mossy concoctions, labeled as chypres, but I am blond...
    With wonders of the modern chemistry I could easily be a red-head or a purple-head :, but I think I would still like Nu....

    Just a thought.




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    To aztec's mention of men who think any fragrance on a man is a little feminine - my own sister asked if I was becoming a "girly man" when she found out I have a dozen bottles of cologne. I was under the impression that "most" (I have no way to qualify this) women liked men to smell good and typically thought it stupid for men to get hung up on masculinity issues. Here, I'm getting the totally opposite message. I guess its good that I'm not trying to attract my sister, but I wonder how many women carry this particular double standard. It might be OK for a man to have one or two frags, but a cabinet full is somehow feminine even if it is full of super masculine scents. I will never get it.

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    [/quote]
    I was thinking gentleman's cane, top hat, vest, tailcoat etc etc... *;D[/quote]

    When I read this I had to roar with laughter....lol.....I can imagine if a bunch of noters got together it would win a fricking Emmy..... ;D ;D ;D.

    Anyway the fem frags' I wear which are Prada and Black Cashmere are usually mixed with some body oils, so most folks don't know what the frick I am wearing...but only that it smells nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scenteur7
    ...Blah, blah, blah...I wanna say more but think I'll stop here...after all, who am I trying to convince?
    Sssshhhhh.... you had me at "My story about Nu..."

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    I was thinking gentleman's cane, top hat, vest, tailcoat etc etc... ;D[/quote]

    When I read this I had to roar with laughter....lol.....I can imagine if a bunch of noters got together it would win a fricking Emmy..... ;D ;D ;D.

    Anyway the fem frags' I wear which are Prada and Black Cashmere are usually mixed with some body oils, so most folks don't know what the frick I am wearing...but only that it smells nice.

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    No, I don't think any of us wear that. I'm sure none of us is from the 19th century! I was just thinking how weird it would be if a man dressed up like that wore Chanel 05 ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xen
    No, I don't think any of us wear that. I'm sure none of us is from the 19th century! I was just thinking how weird it would be if a man dressed up like that wore Chanel 05 ;D
    He would be a real live "fop." You don't see fops anymore. Sad. They were quite common in my day.

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    you won't catch me in a sundress even though they look pretty goddamn comfortable.


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    I managed to obtain Hanae Mori for women in a recent swap to give to my non-fragrance-passionate sister (I'm trying to change her tastes). Before sending it off to her, I decided to spray some on for the day. It's very feminine, but enjoyable! I wonder who will notice.

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    Personally, I have always affiliated NU with masculinity. When first I purchased it, I was disappointed with the mannish drydown. (Although nothing nearly as intolerable as after I first sprayed on Alexander McQueen's "Kingdom." lol ) There was too much of a cloying incense to NU which weighed too heavily on my skin. Which is not to say I don't prefer to wear a man's fragrance from time to time. I do own Habit Rouge, Green Irish Tweed & Caron's Pour Un Homme & at times you just can't beat the clean, brisk freshly-showered aura of these scents on days when you need that certain pick-me-up. I abhor "Bandit" and yet I love "Cabochard." I actually prefer to wear "Aramis" over its female counterpart, Lauder's "Azuree."
    When I first smelled "Helmut Lang" on another woman, I kept thinking that I should be smelling that on a man, or at least I would prefer it more on a man. On the other hand, "Costume National" could very well be worn by both sexes. I guess it's all in where your head & sense of smell are at the time.

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    I'm with Indy Guy on this, how morally wrong and whatever the reason may be, I just feel uncomfortable wearing womens marketed perfumes, so I won't. Some unisex marketed like SMW is as far as I will go. *And it's strange ,I know, but I really don't know how I would react , if one of my male friends was wearing Chanel no5. *I respect guy's on this board though, who enjoy womens scent. to each his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xen
    [quote author=MikeFromManhattan link=1130364485/30#40 date=1130413745][quote author=Xen link=1130364485/30#39 date=1130413078][quote author=MikeFromManhattan link=1130364485/30#37 date=1130408884]And since I dress and act like a traditional gentleman at all times, I find wearing a cologne enhances the image.
    What do you mean by 'traditional' gentleman? *:-/[/quote]

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    [/quote]
    I was thinking gentleman's cane, top hat, vest, tailcoat etc etc... *;D[/quote]

    No, not that tradiitional!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indie_Guy
    Oh, I guess since I'm telling stories about work, I guess I'll tell you what else happened last night, but this is a bit embarrassing, so don't razz me about it!

    I was watching the baseball game, walking around tables, talking to my customers, making smalltalk etc. *There was this one guy whose sexuality was... lets just say after three glasses of wine, I think was hitting on me. *It was odd because we were talking about baseball (he didn't know much about it but he tried to fake it-that's strike one). *He was from Texas and rooting for the Astros, and after I told him I was pulling for the Sox, he slowly became a Sox fan- Strike two. I even berated him and told him to grow some freakin balls. *I was trying to just be friendly talking to him, but he kept bumping into me and touching me. *I was about to walk away. Then he kind of leaned into me and inhaled my SOTD (Sequoia), and then he just inexplicably dropped his wine glass and it broke all over the floor, and everyone in the place turned to look. *And then drunkenly,he says to me, "Oh...I'm sorry, I was just talking to you and i forgot where I was." Strike-f*cking three!!! I was so embarrassed by this guy, and as I went to get a broom, this girl I work with was like, "Hey, is that guy your lover or something?" *I'm sure my face was red. *Its a good thing I easily laugh about stuff like this.

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    You knew you were smelling Nu though so of course you were looking for a woman to be wearing it since, after all, it is marketed to women. Most men dont wear womens fragrances so you arent going to think a man would be wearing it. What if you DIDNT know it was Nu? Would you have still thought it was a womens frag? I doubt it. I dont think florals per se are what makes something smell feminine....its aldehydes. Aldehydes make scents smell very perfumey and strong. I think only strong, perfumey aldehydic scents are scents people would be looking around to see what women was wearing it. For example, i had a bottle of Quelques Fleurs not to long ago. I wore it a few times and then got rid of it. To me it was WAAAAAAY to perfumey for me, a guy, to wear. I am sure people wondered about me when i wore it. It didnt even smell floral to me. It was just VERY STRONG PERFUME. Chnael no. 5 is the same way as you mentioned. Nu doesnt smell perfumey so i dont think it would get mistaken as womens perfume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smitsky
    The other day I told a woman I was wearing #22. She exclaimed, "That's a woman's scent!" I explained that men wear it too sometimes. She wasn't buying it. I got a response. I know what she was thinking (I think). She probably thinks, "Now, why would this guy wear woman's perfume?" She came closer and took a whiff. She said, "It smells nice, but you smell like a woman."
    I doubt she would have made up her mind so quickly if she hadn't recognized the scent. She knew from the beginning that it was marketed as a female scent and reacted because that. At least I think so.

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    Oh I didn't see Vinterdroppe's reply before I posted this...

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    Just thought I'd throw this out there: I seem to recall reading that Old Spice was originally marketed as a women's perfume, but was a commercial failure so it was repackaged and relaunched as a male fragrance.

    By the way, I do wear Nu, and Black Cashmere is probably my most frequently worn scent of late. I wore Black Cashmere to my guitar lesson last week and got a compliment from my teacher, who is a middle-aged, straight-arrow, far-right conservative. When I told him it was a women's perfume, he didn't bat an eye and asked me where he could buy it. When I wore Azzaro Visit on a recent date, my date asked if she could borrow it.

    I do think it's legitimate to perceive a fragrance as SMELLING masculine or feminine TO YOUR NOSE, but I wouldn't subordinate my own perception on this issue to the decision of a commercial marketing department.

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