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    Alien, Black Orchid, Hypnotic Poison & Lovely.

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    You really just need to know what type of fragrances best represent you. For me, I'm not into strong florals, so even if the fragrance is marketed for men or unisex, if it's too strong a floral, I'll stay clear.

    These are the fragrances I use that are marketed to women:
    Shalimar EDP
    No. 19
    Stella
    Vetiver pour Elle
    Mitsouko

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    Shalimar EdT, No. 19, Angel, Amouage Lyric Woman and Reflection Woman with most of them being applied et minimis.

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    I'm a little saddened that we keep having this discussion over and over. I should think that by now anyone here would be totally unconcerned with this matter, just as oenophiles think nothing of pairing some white wines with red meat and fashionistos find many conventions of style for amateurs. Why aren't we beyond this yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blondex199667 View Post
    I'm a little saddened that we keep having this discussion over and over. I should think that by now anyone here would be totally unconcerned with this matter, just as oenophiles think nothing of pairing some white wines with red meat and fashionistos find many conventions of style for amateurs. Why aren't we beyond this yet?
    I was thinking the same thing. I'm still pretty new to the forum, but I see this issue with the 'gender' of fragrances popping up several times now already.

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    I think it's important for us to keep educating people. I know some of you have done it for a long time, and are tired. Just skip these threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosehavn View Post
    I think it's important for us to keep educating people. I know some of you have done it for a long time, and are tired. Just skip these threads.
    What he said!

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    Tabac Blond, Narcisse Noir, Infini, Bellodgia, Fleurs de Rocaille (Caron)
    L'Heure Bleue, Mitsouko (Guerlain)
    Joy (Patou)
    Bal a Versailles (Desprez)
    Crepe de Chine (Millot)
    No 5 (Chanel)
    All are vintage extraits. My favorite by far is Joy. Maybe it's ... oxidized, or something. The civet is intense.
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    I like and wear Habanita, Rose Pivione, and SMN Opoponax.
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    Currently, unisex is as far as I wanna go.
    I'll leave others to my wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blondex199667 View Post
    Why aren't we beyond this yet?
    Unfortunately, we never will be - as you can see. But to each his own. If people want to be narrow-minded, that is their prerogative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petruccijc View Post
    However, I do not consider people who have these limits/boundaries to be serious fragrance enthusiasts.
    (the message I quoted is a piece of the original one, funny you changed it)

    There is not a definition of a "real / serious" fragrance enthusiast.
    Everyone experiences this hobby in his own way.

    You know, if you like to test fragrances marketed towards women, I wish you good luck and happy hunting.
    All the best to you.
    What you are saying in the post that I quoted is just agressive and intolerant, as if you are better than some members on this forum. Why can't you just be nice? Does it somehow make you feel bad that some people do care about the marketing?

    There is always a reason behind the marketing you know. It's not like a bunch of apes and gorillas on crack chose the gender of a fragrance.

    My interest in feminine fragrances is absolutely zero. Like I said, I did get a wrong sample (Encre Noire pour elle, wanted the masculine version) , and it was so floral and feminine it was disgusting. With this experience, I'm quite sure I won't have any interest in feminine ones for the following years to come, to say the least.

    And I mean seriously, from the feminine ones you test, how many of them do you find wearable? It's not like your wardrobe is stacked with feminine fragrances. Do you wear these fragrances in public, or only in private?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blondex199667 View Post
    Why aren't we beyond this yet?
    Because there are enough goodies on either side of the aisle to keep even a moderately-experienced person occupied without venturing against the labelling. After all, not everyone is looking for their "holy grail" rose or leather fragrance from the start.

    It's also yet another excuse to swap lists of current "loves", and maybe get ideas for other things to try out. I'm a little surprised not to see En Avion on any lists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressor View Post
    (the message I quoted is a piece of the original one, funny you changed it)

    There is not a definition of a "real / serious" fragrance enthusiast.
    Everyone experiences this hobby in his own way.

    You know, if you like to test fragrances marketed towards women, I wish you good luck and happy hunting.
    All the best to you.
    What you are saying in the post that I quoted is just agressive and intolerant, as if you are better than some members on this forum. Why can't you just be nice? Does it somehow make you feel bad that some people do care about the marketing?

    There is always a reason behind the marketing you know. It's not like a bunch of apes and gorillas on crack chose the gender of a fragrance.

    My interest in feminine fragrances is absolutely zero. Like I said, I did get a wrong sample (Encre Noire pour elle, wanted the masculine version) , and it was so floral and feminine it was disgusting. With this experience, I'm quite sure I won't have any interest in feminine ones for the following years to come, to say the least.

    And I mean seriously, from the feminine ones you test, how many of them do you find wearable? It's not like your wardrobe is stacked with feminine fragrances. Do you wear these fragrances in public, or only in private?
    If you're looking at this from the marketing point of view, it's not a good one, since the marketing aim is money, is to sell the maximum number of bottles to an uneducated consumer who in general doesn't know a lot of fragrances and doesn't really cares a lot, that is a costumer that only searches for a fragrance that smells god, even if this fragrance is not so original and can even be similar to others existen on market.
    Your post is also intolerant and agressive when you say you have zero interest in feminine fragrances, like they were differente creatures that would make you smell like a woman. If you really are a fragrance lover you'll want to try the fragrances based on the notes, based on your desires, on what you feel you need on a fragrance, and not based on what someone may think, according to a testing group of people that may even not have the same tastes of yours, that would be masculine or feminine.
    I wear my male and female fragrances without any constraints, i just wear them when I feel like i want to wear them. And there are great feminine fragrances, so you may have tried only the popular or obvious ones. Black Cashmere is very wearable, a nice spice, dry, incense frag that fits like a glove in winter days. Mitsouko is a dry mossy frag where peaches gives a soft touch. Lancome Magie Noire is another example of a dry, mossy chypre with musky notes, and which is great on a man skin.
    I always get compliments when I wear my kingdom, and from my female friends. They say that i smell great.
    If you really, really love fragrances gender marketing will one time get irrelevant to you, since you'll find a fragrance marketed to another sex that you like and looks fine to you. You may be not fully enjoying your experiences as a fragrance lover if you only stick with what others tell you to try and wear, and not what YOU may want to try. I think that, as animals with intelligence, we humans have the ability to think by ourselves....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressor View Post
    (the message I quoted is a piece of the original one, funny you changed it)

    There is not a definition of a "real / serious" fragrance enthusiast.
    Everyone experiences this hobby in his own way.

    You know, if you like to test fragrances marketed towards women, I wish you good luck and happy hunting.
    All the best to you.
    What you are saying in the post that I quoted is just agressive and intolerant, as if you are better than some members on this forum. Why can't you just be nice? Does it somehow make you feel bad that some people do care about the marketing?

    There is always a reason behind the marketing you know. It's not like a bunch of apes and gorillas on crack chose the gender of a fragrance.

    My interest in feminine fragrances is absolutely zero. Like I said, I did get a wrong sample (Encre Noire pour elle, wanted the masculine version) , and it was so floral and feminine it was disgusting. With this experience, I'm quite sure I won't have any interest in feminine ones for the following years to come, to say the least.

    And I mean seriously, from the feminine ones you test, how many of them do you find wearable? It's not like your wardrobe is stacked with feminine fragrances. Do you wear these fragrances in public, or only in private?
    I bet that if you tried some fragrances like Pure Turquoise from Ralph Lauren or Elixir des Merveilles from Hermes or Escale A Portorfino from Dior you wouldn't tell that they are feminine fragrances. You're basing your comments on a single experience of a fragrance that you didn't like. If you want to say that you really, really don't like feminine frags, at least you should try some of them on skin for a day to have a full experience and see what do you think of them after your tests. If you don't do this, your opinion is as agreessive or intolerant, since it's base on a preconceived notion, not in a real experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickbr View Post
    If you're looking at this from the marketing point of view, it's not a good one, since the marketing aim is money, is to sell the maximum number of bottles to an uneducated consumer who in general doesn't know a lot of fragrances and doesn't really cares a lot, that is a costumer that only searches for a fragrance that smells god, even if this fragrance is not so original and can even be similar to others existen on market.
    Your post is also intolerant and agressive when you say you have zero interest in feminine fragrances, like they were differente creatures that would make you smell like a woman. If you really are a fragrance lover you'll want to try the fragrances based on the notes, based on your desires, on what you feel you need on a fragrance, and not based on what someone may think, according to a testing group of people that may even not have the same tastes of yours, that would be masculine or feminine.
    I wear my male and female fragrances without any constraints, i just wear them when I feel like i want to wear them. And there are great feminine fragrances, so you may have tried only the popular or obvious ones. Black Cashmere is very wearable, a nice spice, dry, incense frag that fits like a glove in winter days. Mitsouko is a dry mossy frag where peaches gives a soft touch. Lancome Magie Noire is another example of a dry, mossy chypre with musky notes, and which is great on a man skin.
    I always get compliments when I wear my kingdom, and from my female friends. They say that i smell great.
    If you really, really love fragrances gender marketing will one time get irrelevant to you, since you'll find a fragrance marketed to another sex that you like and looks fine to you. You may be not fully enjoying your experiences as a fragrance lover if you only stick with what others tell you to try and wear, and not what YOU may want to try. I think that, as animals with intelligence, we humans have the ability to think by ourselves....
    There is a difference between being agressive and intolerant towards people and being "agressive and intolerant" towards fragrances. But seriously, if I don't want to test fragrances marketed towards women, I am agressive and intolerant towards those fragrances? Really? Like those fragrances are actually living beings?

    I have no doubt that some feminine fragrances work like magic on male skin. The thing is, I don't have any interest to search for such fragrances. I'm really wondering what the problem is when people do not want to do this. It's remarkable how insecure some people are who wear the feminines.

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    I also cringed a little petruccijc when I read that line just after you posted it. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I think someone can be a true enthusiast without venturing into scents marketed toward the opposite gender. This being said, I personally feel that with a greater appreciation and understanding of the perfuming arts, one will usually come to want to venture over that line. (Refraining from doing so only diminishes your olfactory experiences by half)! Perhaps not necessarily to wish to wear them, but to at least enjoy and have an appreciation for them.

    To answer Siifter's question though, yes, I too am a male in my 30s who likes to wear a selection of "women's perfumes".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressor View Post
    There is a difference between being agressive and intolerant towards people and being "agressive and intolerant" towards fragrances. But seriously, if I don't want to test fragrances marketed towards women, I am agressive and intolerant towards those fragrances? Really? Like those fragrances are actually living beings?

    I have no doubt that some feminine fragrances work like magic on male skin. The thing is, I don't have any interest to search for such fragrances. I'm really wondering what the problem is when people do not want to do this. It's remarkable how insecure some people are who wear the feminines.
    I think insecurity is when you stay inside the box, not when you think outside the box...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressor View Post
    I have no doubt that some feminine fragrances work like magic on male skin. The thing is, I don't have any interest to search for such fragrances. I'm really wondering what the problem is when people do not want to do this. It's remarkable how insecure some people are who wear the feminines.
    I'm not entirely sure where this quip about peoples insecurities has come from. That to me is a passive-aggressive (and slightly intolerant) remark about people as well.

    I think perhaps if you were given a mixed bag of unlabelled, unmarked samples and asked to go through them and set to one side all those you would like to wear, you would likely find a number scents that you could call gender-neutral or unisex... and some of these might very well be perfumes marketed towards women. The thing is, whilst you may not actively go out and test fragrances in the "women's" section of the store, this "blind test" might actually inspire you to buy one based on the way the perfume smells. And thats really the nuts and bolts of the matter, isn't it?

    But hey, this is a theoretical scenario, and I applaud you for doing what you're doing. Everyone's journey is a different one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcery of Scent View Post
    I'm not entirely sure where this quip about peoples insecurities has come from. That to me is a passive-aggressive (and slightly intolerant) remark about people as well.

    I think perhaps if you were given a mixed bag of unlabelled, unmarked samples and asked to go through them and set to one side all those you would like to wear, you would likely find a number scents that you could call gender-neutral or unisex... and some of these might very well be perfumes marketed towards women. The thing is, whilst you may not actively go out and test fragrances in the "women's" section of the store, this "blind test" might actually inspire you to buy one based on the way the perfume smells. And thats really the nuts and bolts of the matter, isn't it?

    But hey, this is a theoretical scenario, and I applaud you for doing what you're doing. Everyone's journey is a different one.
    I did say "some people" their insecurity. You personally are not calling anyone names, you are not claiming some people are no real fragrance enthusiasts. So I don't call you insecure, even if you test and like women fragrances. But good to know I'm the intolerant one, I guess.

    All your basically doing is searching for unisex/masculine aspects in fragrances marketed towards women. And like I said, I have no doubt it's possible. But there are some people out there who find such a fragrance, buy it, and go all artistic online on how "open minded" they are, and others are ofcourse narrow minded people with no idea. That fragrance has "no gender", while they are essentially searching for masculine aspects in feminine ones. What a load of cr*p.
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    Sorry. I did not mean to offend anyone. I was stuck in the airport waiting on a delayed flight and was in a very bad mood - but that is no excuse. Please accept my apologies.

    However I just wish people would experience fragrances for themselves - and not let marketing/rules/boundaries get in their way. I feel there is a whole world of wonderful experiences waiting for them. But that is up to them if they want to take that journey....
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    I'm 21 and I wear 'Nuit de Noel' which smells like really good incense on me and I find it very comforting, can get a bit "chalky" but I've gotten good compliments on it. I'm looking for others but I feel a lot of the OLDER perfumes are much more wearible by men these days.

    I did like 'Mitsouko' which smells like peach fritters fried in peanut oil and 'Vol de Nuit' which is closer to 'Nuit de Noel' in terms of scent with Guerlain iris and tonka-vanilla but they are harder to find in vintage since I don't think the modern stuff would hold a candle to any of these particular scents while I've found those larger 30-40 year old square clear flacons of 'Nuit de Noel' eau de toilette from Caron from 30-60 bucks.


    As far as moderns I've also worn 'Eaux des Merveilles" from Hermes and that is another GREAT scent if you like kind of salty-ambergris orange? They really should sell that one unisex considering their classic eau de'orange verte (another great citrus scent) is unisex.

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    I do.

    Dior Hypnotic Poison
    Guerlain Mitsouko
    Guerlain Shalimar EDP
    Guerlain Samsara EDP
    Chanel No.19 EDT
    Chanel Cuir de Russie EDT
    Chanel Cristalle
    Tommy Hilfiger Tommy Girl
    Hermes Kelly Caleche
    SMN Imperial Oppoponax
    Serge Lutens Sa Majeste le Rose
    Serge Lutens Rousse

    I wear these 'female-marketed' scents purely on the basis of how good they smell on my skin. Some overtly floral, some may be less so. I think it really depends on your 'comfort zone'. My own comfort zone allows me to wear many types of scent but imposes more restrictions on the projection/sillage - so whatever I wear it is usually discreet.

    We don't really have to bash each other up over this issue; it's just a hobby after all. I may not wear extremely floral feminine scents but I wouldn't call them disgusting either. That's rather insensitive considering many (females/males) who happen to like their florals. So to me it's not always about likes/dislikes; often it is more about 'appreciation'. That's why I'm here on Basenotes.

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    Hi Siifter, we hope this thread helped you in some way!

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    Just be careful....
    Hahaha, you naughty boy!

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    i can tolerate only Shalimar EDC
    Currently wearing: Métal by Paco Rabanne

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    Hi Siifter, we hope this thread helped you in some way!
    Well yes. But i would feel too weird anyway to wear a womens fragrance. But I appreciate all the answers all though its nothing for me.

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    Default Male 'female fragrance wearers'......be honest

    Now first of all, this isn't for all female scent wearers, im merely throwing something out there as to why some men like scents for women.

    Now, its a general, worldwide 'men are from mars, women from venus' thing, women are softer in nature, some like things cute and cuddly, as opposed to what a man likes, and as a consequence, they might prefer a note in their fragrance that is very soft and powdery, men (depending on their reasoning for wearing a fragrance) might choose something not soft and powdery.

    This might not be applicable to true collectors of perfume, who buy for other reasons than wearing them, but for those who aren't but buy 'womens' fragrances, is it more to do with the fact that there is a particular note in a woman's perfume that is more regularly found in 'masculine' fragrances?

    For instance, you can find almost all notes that have been in both male and female scents, its just the way they are composed, take tobacco or vetiver for example, you can tell the notes when you smell them, regardless of what scent they are in, but theres a way they are composed that makes them seem 'feminine' or 'masculine'.

    My opinion is, SOME buy women's fragrances simply because there are masculine composed notes in them, mixed with the quintessential feminine note, some say its acceptable to wear.

    Its not marketing, its not that its genderless, its because it some female scents smell masculine, and thats why you wear it and say theres nothing wrong with wearing a womens perfume. The reality is, most men wouldn't buy a womens deodorant, even though deodorant is made for one job regardless of gender, skin type, sweat glands etc, its because of how it smells, if Sure for women smelt like Right Guard for men, men would wear Sure for women, and say there is nothing wrong with wearing womens deodorant. Thats my point. Again, just an opinion.

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    Personally, I think it is justified to have all three classifications (feminine/unisex/masculine) as there are compositions that are almost universaly associated (or not associated) with a specific gender. However, from my own experience so far, I'd say that a large percentage of fragrances could work well as unisex, regardless of how they are marketed. There are many examples of misleading marketing in the history of the perfume-industry, so I'd say that plays a role in what people are associating - it's a significant factor in the everlasting process of reshaping our expectations. Yet, I believe that there is a universal template (like Da Vinci's "Vitruvian Man") for what we perceive as beautyful / aestheticaly striking, that is burried very deep in our nature (so that it is not that much dependend on the psychology of marketing).

    I often enjoy wearing very masculine scents very much but I would never let that become a dogma. Depending on my mood I enjoy wearing all kinds of scents!
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    Choose between two answers - short and long.

    1. Short:

    As PetrucciJ said, scents don't have genitalia, and MikePerez dixit, your pee pee won't fall off if you wear a female scent. So gender does not matter at all, it is all related to personal tastes.

    2. Long:

    Check out fragrances classified according to their families and you will realize mostly florals are femenine and orientals / spicy / woody / leather scents are mostly clasified as masculines.

    Now, there are some florals that are classified as masculines (Insensé) and some orientals/ woody / spicy / leather scents that are classified as femenine (Bandit - leather).

    Add to this the fact that some are not truly "honest" to their gender qualification - ie, and as far as my experience goes, Cabochard being femenine and being worn by a man is identifiied as a masculine scent, Dior Homme being a masculine scent and being worn by a woman is identified as a femenine.

    Now, let's add some confusion: top notes can be femenine (ie: florals) and base notes masculine (ie: leather). So, again, as my experience goes, the basenotes of Quartz pour femme by Moulineux are described as masculine, and more even so when compared to the drydown of another men's fragrance I cannot recall its name.

    I have plenty of anecdotes on how misleading scents can be in terms of gender:

    - Jovan's Musk for men was my sis' signature scent and no one got its manly character,
    - Once I wore JHL once and was told Opium pour Femme did smell great on me.
    - While wearing Mitsouko I was told "oh, that you are wearng is SO virile".
    - Once I was asked if I were wearing Chanel N° 5 (with an expression of awe, of course): no, I was not, it was a really dirty cheap cologne with a drydown that is quite similar to that of Chanel's.

    Add historical facts - ie, Old Spice was targeted to women, proved a flop, rerelased for men.... and became a success.

    Now, noses have traditionally worked for a mostly femenine market until the 1960's - 1970's, when men started to use scents. That meant that the had to work on gender-related styles since then, the reason why some classics feel masculine - vintage Shocking (Jean Carles, 1937) is very similar to Kouros, Tabu (same, 1932) smells much alike to Lagerfeld Classic (1978), etc. Did Bernard Chant realized this? I gues so, Cabochard (1959) has the same structure as Aramis (1973), but with more floral notes in it. Now, the time has come when men are not afraid of using bold scents in their sweetness, once a femenine trademark, so you've got truly femenine masculine scents - I am thinking of A*men, Lolita Lempicka et al.

    The point being, manufacturers deliver information on their products to customers that do not justify spending time in acquiring the information needed in order to analyze their offers. Thus, if they are being told scent A is a masculine, they will buy it regardless of prominent notes present or the character of the blend.

    Add to all this one's personal policies regarding one's hobby - my wardrobe is quite big, so I have to decide which kind of scents to buy, this ruling out femenines (the ones I bought were before I became aware and decided on this) - as well as personal tastes - for me, wearing loud scents regardless of their notes is a sign of affection, plain scent wearing ignorance or just bad taste.

    So, after all this thoughts, all you get is a... just enjoy whatever you like!

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