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    Default Re: Designer Pour Femme's that can be used by Men

    thanks girls , some interesting one's i haven't seen mentioned before .
    btw ... I have tried & like , Tabu , Black Cashmere & Habanita , i'll get bottles of these to share with my gf .
    How about Tova by Nirvana ? anyone use this regularly ?

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    Smile Re: Designer Pour Femme's that can be used by Men

    Let's not forget the following;

    Bois des Iles, Chanel
    No. 19, Chanel
    Chamade, Guerlain
    L'heure Bleue, Guerlain
    Shalimar, Guerlain
    Mitsouko, Guerlain
    Vol de nuit, Guerlain
    Nahema, Guerlain
    Samsara, Guerlain
    Jicky, Guerlain
    Chant de Aromes, Guerlain
    Hiris, Hermes
    George Sand by MPG
    Guerlainade, Guerlain
    Perles de Lalique
    Lolita Lempicka
    Dark Crystal, Versaci
    Fendi

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    Default Re: Designer Pour Femme's that can be used by Men

    I second:

    YSL Opium
    Estee Lauder Youth Dew
    MPG George Sand
    Tom Ford Black Orchid (although this is sometimes marketed as unisex)

    I add:

    Hermes Kelly Caleche
    Balmain de Balmain
    Balmain Jolie Madame
    Gres Cabochard
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    Default Re: Designer Pour Femme's that can be used by Men

    Dior Dolce Vita
    Cartier Le Baiser du Dragon
    "Wonderfully wild, eminently civilized" - Derby by Guerlain

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    Default Re: Designer Pour Femme's that can be used by Men

    Please don't forget Estee Lauder's Private Collection & Clinique's Aromatics Elixir
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    Oh, yes, ubuandibeme! Those are two marvelous herbal, vegetal scents!
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    Default Re: Designer Pour Femme's that can be used by Men

    I would have to say the easiest to wear is Light Blue, and perhaps Mitsouko, if you want to go all old school
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    Default Re: Designer Pour Femme's that can be used by Men

    L'eau D'Hadrien EDP & Les Nuits D'Hadrien also EDP
    Lauder - Alliage, Azuree, Knowing
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    Default Re: Designer Pour Femme's that can be used by Men

    Guerlain Vetiver pour elle

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    Default Re: Designer Pour Femme's that can be used by Men

    EL Azuree
    Hermes Amazone
    Balmain Ivoire
    Clinique Aromatics Elixir
    Chanel Cristalle
    Sisley Eau du Soir
    Lancome Magie Noir
    EL Knowing
    YSL Elle
    Cartier Must

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    Smile Re: Designer Pour Femme's that can be used by Men

    I forgot to add:

    Cuir de Lancome.

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    Default Re: Designer Pour Femme's that can be used by Men

    Anything and everything you desire to wear !
    The ladies' Gucci By Gucci is very unisex ,also Dior Dolce Vita ...so many ... I think you should wear what you like whether it is labelled pour femme or not .......
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    Hi guys,

    Dior's Dune for women-- "light" oriental. Positively butch compared to the syrupy dreck they've been making so much of lately.

    Dior's Diorella - great citrus, better and more interesting than Eau Sauvage

    DKNY Women - gorgeous frothy lemon opening, great for a summer day

    Estée Lauder's Azurée

    Turin and Sanchez recommend Arpège and White Linen for men, but I found them both overly floral for my tastes.

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    Default Re: Designer Pour Femme's that can be used by Men

    Quote Originally Posted by mysticknot View Post
    Anything and everything you desire to wear ! .......
    yes ofcourse

    I'm looking forward to trying Gucci by Gucci & as many of those mentioned that i can obtain samples of .

    In addition to those I mentioned near the top when i started this thread
    I have also used Fendi & it wasn't for me & Samsara which i found to be "absolutely brilliant !!
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    I also own a bottle of Cardin ( 1975 ) which i use a few times a year .
    Thanks for all your input so far .
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    I guess I ought to start out by saying that although some folks will insist that it is all "in the nose of the beholder," and others that there is no difference whatsoever...if we start with the idea that words have meaning and that we actually can communicate something of significance to each other by respecting those meanings...then the fact that words such as "masculine" and "feminine" even exist implies that there are real differences between the sexes and that these words describe characteristics and preferences associated with gender that are almost universally perceived across many cultures.

    So....it follows then that some notes, some fragrances, must bring to mind aspects of masculine and feminine in ways that other fragrances do not...and much more readily. Some notes must resonate more with masculine sensibilities than others; and some more strongly with the feminine.

    What are those notes?

    For me, I associate wood and metal and smoke and leather and whisky (no "e") with the masculine; and food smells, flowers, and to a lesser extent, citrus, with the feminine.
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    I don't have gender associations with smells that aren't cultural references. I could say I associate cigars and their smell with guys, but that's because more guys smoke them than women, at least back home in Canada. If they were a female-only item, no doubt I'd think they were female-smelling. I have yet to identify a smell I feel to be distinctly masculine or distinctly feminine outside of cultural contexts such as this.

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    Here we go again...

    I don't think that smells in themselves are inherently masculine or feminine, it's a cultural issue. Flowers like jasmine and rose are considered as masculine or feminine in different parts of the world.

    I'm not saying that we should or that we can ignore our cultural biases, just that we should realise that they are a product of society and not biology. Perceptions are relative and shifting.

    Some fragrances that are considered masculine today would've been supergirly a few decades ago, while some older feminine fragrances are superbutch today by practically anyones standards.
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    Men: Snips and snails and puppy-dog tails

    Women: Sugar and spice and everything nice

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    DWFII, I do agree with you. But labels are tricky: Dior Homme feels femenine (floral and gourmand) while Cabochard by Gres feels masculine (leather). As a matter of fact, I feel more comfortable wearing Cabochard than Dior Homme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBoy View Post
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    Default Re: gender sensibilities

    Cultures and cultural biases don't exist in a vacuum. They are expression of deep seated predilections and preferences....sensibilities that speak to us on a level that no amount of rationalization can refute. At one level, I think the case could be made that many of them are genetically based. But either way they are not just crepe paper hung on the rafters--they are the rafters themselves...the structure upon which society and civilization is built. That's why they are so hard to change...or, as is au currant, eradicate.

    But the original question/thesis is not intended to be an exploration of sexuality or sexual preferences or even lifestyles, but simply a consideration of why some fragrances express masculine and feminine better than other fragrances...and what those notes are. Is there a commonality or a thread running through them?
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    Default Re: gender sensibilities

    Most boys like playing with sticks, like carving wood with pocket knives, love climbing trees, love chopping wood when camping etc.
    Most girls love sticking flowers in their hair, picking flowers, smelling flowers, making those interminable daisy chains with real daisies.
    Most boys and girls like eating oranges and drinking lemonade.

    Most men wear woody scents, or scents with a significant woody component.
    Most women wear floral scents, or scents with a significant floral component.
    When wearing unisex scents, until recently most men and women went for citrusy scents.

    Amazing coincidence is it not?
    I think some things are just innate in this world.

    Despite the best efforts of some teachers trying to enforce their gender neutral philosophy in schools, boys still climb trees and play with wood, and they might give making daisy chains a try every now and then, but they'd still prefer a Daisy BB Gun.
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    Oh dear... can we also talk about Creed and just get it all taken care of in the same thread? (sarcasm )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    Most boys like playing with sticks, like carving wood with pocket knives, love climbing trees, love chopping wood when camping etc.
    Most girls love sticking flowers in their hair, picking flowers, smelling flowers, making those interminable daisy chains with real daisies.
    Most, perhaps... but a large number of boys and girls do NOT enjoy the things as labeled (I was one of them, as was my tom boy sister).

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    As it pertains to smells, DWFII, I'm just going to have to disagree with you. I don't think there are elements in smells that are the rafters, as you suggest and I have little doubt that exceptions could be found to every "identification" of an element as a rafter.

    We do have responses with our conditioned noses, however, and smells conjure up slideshows of who would wear them (male or female) and despite how many "marketed to women" scents I have and like, there are smells out there that I wouldn't feel comfortable wearing because of my "conditioned" nose, but that does not mean there is an anchor to these perceptions that is inherent in our species.
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    The original question is unanswerable. It would be like saying vanilla is a feminine flavor and chocolate masculine. Our senses don't work that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    The original question is unanswerable. It would be like saying vanilla is a feminine flavor and chocolate masculine. Our senses don't work that way.
    I think you are certainly correct...fragrances themselves have no inherent gender but aren't certain notes associative?

    That said, food smells seem to be neutral...or moreso, than wood notes or floral notes. Everybody likes food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    The original question is unanswerable. It would be like saying vanilla is a feminine flavor and chocolate masculine. Our senses don't work that way.
    ^To a certain degree they do work that way for many substances found in nature, and synthetics as well, but not in any definitive way that is uniform for all humans, especially when the composition is a very busy one.

    As for my answer, almost all smells can be used by either sex.
    No notes are forbidden i think.

    But the ratio and proportion of the notes within the composition is what gives it it's underlying charaxter, not the notes themselves.
    These characters definitely do correlate to feelings and personalities, across the entire range of femininity and masculinity, as many plant sources and animal sources for perfumery ingredients themselves have sexually dimorphous hormones, or sexually amorphous substances and such.

    It's very easy to use exactly the same classic ingredients and make such starkly masculine and feminine scents, just by varying the ratios.
    This industry has an over-stated dichotomy in some of it's lineage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclmind View Post
    Most, perhaps... but a large number of boys and girls do NOT enjoy the things as labeled (I was one of them, as was my tom boy sister).

    I know you won't agree but I don't think conditioning has anything to do with it. As if we were entirely receptive to brainwashing and could not ever transcend it. I think we come into this world with certain innate character traits and characteristics. And certain propensities--likes and dislike, as who should say.. So many "untoward" notions spring from the proposition that we are a product of our conditioning that I am surprised anyone even takes it seriously anymore.

    There is an old saying (and old sayings tend to be condensed bits of real wisdom) ...that "the hand that rocks the cradle controls the world." If conditioning were the answer, we'd all like just what our mothers liked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galamb_Borong View Post
    I don't have gender associations with smells that aren't cultural references. I could say I associate cigars and their smell with guys, but that's because more guys smoke them than women, at least back home in Canada. If they were a female-only item, no doubt I'd think they were female-smelling. I have yet to identify a smell I feel to be distinctly masculine or distinctly feminine outside of cultural contexts such as this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    Despite the best efforts of some teachers trying to enforce their gender neutral philosophy in schools, boys still climb trees and play with wood, and they might give making daisy chains a try every now and then, but they'd still prefer a Daisy BB Gun.
    Agree with both of these. There are certainly psychological differences between men and women (the hunter/gatherer vs. the nurturer) that may account for some acquired fragrance tastes.

    But I'm sure a good deal of the difference in "standard" feminine/masculine notes arises from abstract cultural associations, too.

    The impact of one factor vs. the other? Who knows.
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