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    Gentlemen, count me in as an additional, albeit still very budding, inexperienced, bumbling and novice member of the traditional wetshave aficionados (since half a year or so, I never ceased loving DE shave).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post
    Gentlemen, count me in as an additional, albeit still very budding, inexperienced, bumbling and novice member of the traditional wetshave aficionados (since half a year or so, I never ceased loving DE shave).
    Half a year - that makes you six times more experienced than me.
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    I now have 5 razors, 1 Gillette Fusion Power, 1 Mühle Sophist Fusion Black Resin and then 3 DE razors:

    Mühle Sophist Black Resin:

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    Feather AS-1 DE with stand:

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    Mühle R41 Grande with stand:
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHSeifert View Post
    I now have ...................3 DE razors:
    No you do not. You possess three works of art!

    They look fabulous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    No you do not. You possess three works of art!

    They look fabulous.
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    While thank you Renato

    They also shave well with the right blade installed of course.....

    Quite a few don't know that you can alter the way a razor shaves by changing to another brand blade !
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHSeifert View Post
    While thank you Renato

    They also shave well with the right blade installed of course.....

    Quite a few don't know that you can alter the way a razor shaves by changing to another brand blade !
    The obvious question - for each of your razors, which is its best blade, and which is fairly sub average in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    The obvious question - for each of your razors, which is its best blade, and which is fairly sub average in it?

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    For my skin & beard:

    Mühle Sophist R44(R89) : Here I prefer Astra Superior Platinum followed by Feather HI Superior Platinum
    Mühle R41 Grande: Here I prefer Gillette 7 O'Clock Blue Super Platinum followed by Astra Superior Platinum
    Feather AS-1 DE: Here I prefer Feather HI Superior Platinum. Have only used this blade because the blade and razor was designed for each other and that just works well.

    YMMV of course and most likely will !
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHSeifert View Post
    For my skin & beard:

    Mühle Sophist R44(R89) : Here I prefer Astra Superior Platinum followed by Feather HI Superior Platinum
    Mühle R41 Grande: Here I prefer Gillette 7 O'Clock Blue Super Platinum followed by Astra Superior Platinum
    Feather AS-1 DE: Here I prefer Feather HI Superior Platinum. Have only used this blade because the blade and razor was designed for each other and that just works well.

    YMMV of course and most likely will !
    Thanks for the info.
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    Gillete. Nothing crazy. You can get them at Costco. But I can't grow much anyways so blades last longer and my wallet doesn't hurt so bad after. lol

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    Gillette Mach 3 / Fusion, both work about the same for me.

    Is there any benefit for someone who doesn't grow a substantial amount or thick facial hair to use a DE razor? I've been curious but never was sure if there was a point, since the safety razors seem to work fine for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanCoyote View Post
    Gillette Mach 3 / Fusion, both work about the same for me.

    Is there any benefit for someone who doesn't grow a substantial amount or thick facial hair to use a DE razor? I've been curious but never was sure if there was a point, since the safety razors seem to work fine for me.
    The only benefits I can see would be lower cost in buying blades versus buying the more expensive cartridges, and for variety in your shaving experience. The cost of cartridges is mitigated somewhat by buying the cheaper generic ones that supermarkets sell, or by using the Razorpit to prolong the cartridge's life. On the downside, you'd probably have to check a Youtube video on how to shave with a DE razor - main points being that you shouldn't press into the skin, and that you shouldn't use your hand to move the razor around your face, but rather to keep your hand fixed and move your arm only. (of course, I'm one of the odd ones out over at the Blade & Badger site, as I like both blades and cartridges).

    Many people claim they get less irritation from using DE blades versus cartridges. Again I'm the odd one, I find Fusion cartridges far less likely to irritate than blades, but on the other hand in the past I was equally irritated by Mach 3 and DE blades. But then again, one of my friends couldn't stand Fusion but loved Mach3. Which I guess means that the only way to know for certain is to give it a go.

    If you do want to inexpensively test out DE shaving and don't have a razor, I'd recommend checking Ebay for a Lord LP1822L (aka L6) Merkur head type razor, which often comes with 10 blades. Cost is around $16, which is on par with a 4 pack of cartridges. It's a pretty gentle razor, and many are fond of it over at Blade & Badger, and I like it too.

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    What do you guys look into razors?

    Brand?
    Weight?
    Style?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oupavoc View Post
    What do you guys look into razors?

    Brand?
    Weight?
    Style?
    Aggressiveness of the razor and blade.

    I love to shave with my Mühle Sophist Fusion razor when I have 4+ days beard growth. Nothing beats it. I get 100% perfect shave and no irritation. However with shorter stubbles, I tend to get ingrown hair when using Fusion cartridges so I then use one of my 3 DE razors. I have bought then all for different lengths of my stubble.

    Feather DE I great for 1 days growth. It's EXTREMELY mild and gentle. It sucks for 2+ days stubble.

    Mühle Sophist R106 (=R89) is my in between DE razor. Forgiving and medium mild. Good for 2-3 days beard growth.

    Mühle R41 Grande is a highly aggressive DE razor. I use that for 3-4-5 days growth.
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    @UrbanCoyote:

    I started shaving with cartridges in the seventies and have used Mach 3 since they came on the market. I changed to DE razors quite late, at the age of 50, and I never looked back (except that I keep the Mach 3 for airtravel with hand luggage only).

    The advantages I experienced are primarily freedom of choice, value for money (i.e. not beeing ripped off), a much more pleasant shaving experience over all and a BBS that is still good enough in the afternoon.

    As always, freedom comes with a price: You should be willing to invest some time in acquiring knowledge and basic technique (the essential advantage of cartridges is that they don't require any special technique). As even the very best DE blades are ridiculously cheap compared to cartridges, you can save a lot of money over time - but be aware of the imminent danger of RAD (razor acquisition disorder): Many of us spend much more than necessary on new razors and brushes - even though one of each does the trick perfectly. A well made razor will easily serve your great-grandson as well as you (if they still make DE blades, that is) and a well kept brush will last many, many years.

    Even if you stay with your Mach 3 (as long as they make them), I would strongly advise you to test a real shaving soap with a brush. There is a road map for the aspiring wet shaver at
    http://www.bruceonshaving.com/2011/0...de-a-road-map/
    Even if you just take the first step, I am sure that exchanging canned goo for a real soap like the phantastic, cheap and convenient Palmolive stick will enhance the quality of your shave considerably (and save you money).

    If you want to know the essentials in concentrated form, you may consider reading leisureguy's book http://www.amazon.com/Leisureguys-Gu.../dp/1463595344
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    @Oupavoc:

    The brand may give you a hint of what quality to expect, but isn't too interesting for me.

    Style? Form follows function, and I like the esthetics of well designed tools. Ornamental stuff isn't for me.

    Weight is good (less so for travelling, perhaps), but I don't make that a prerequisite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyujin View Post
    ...............- but be aware of the imminent danger of RAD (razor acquisition disorder): Many of us spend much more than necessary on new razors and brushes - even though one of each does the trick perfectly. A well made razor will easily serve your great-grandson as well as you (if they still make DE blades, that is) and a well kept brush will last many, many years.
    Talking of RAD - my Weber DLC razor should be arriving any day now.
    Cheers,
    Renato

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    Not RAD, it was a gift: I just tested the Wilkinson DE razor for the first time (with an Astra Superior Platinum blade). It is a very gentle razor, not quite as thorough as the Weber ARC, but phantastic value for money. A perfect travel razor, lightweight and cheap enough to risk loosing it without big regrets. Likewise , if you just want to test wet shaving with a DE razor, this will give you an easy start for just a few dollars. Look at http://www.bruceonshaving.com/2010/1...ssic-de-razor/ for pictures, there is also information on how to buy it from the US, as Wilkinson doesn't officially sell it there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyujin View Post
    Not RAD, it was a gift: I just tested the Wilkinson DE razor for the first time (with an Astra Superior Platinum blade). It is a very gentle razor, not quite as thorough as the Weber ARC, but phantastic value for money. A perfect travel razor, lightweight and cheap enough to risk loosing it without big regrets. Likewise , if you just want to test wet shaving with a DE razor, this will give you an easy start for just a few dollars. Look at http://www.bruceonshaving.com/2010/1...ssic-de-razor/ for pictures, there is also information on how to buy it from the US, as Wilkinson doesn't officially sell it there.
    Thanks. Well, I had just blind bought Gillette's latest offering - the very inexpensive 7 O'clock Super Platinum Razor -
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/110666592...84.m1497.l2649

    so I figured if you and Bruce like Wilkinson Sword's latest offering, it would be fun comparing the two. Thus I've just ordered it also.

    I've also ordered a couple of $4 (including postage) DE razors from China. There are quite a few listed on Ebay, but some looked a bit rough, or not quite thick enough in parts of the head. So I narrowed my selection to the two that looked best.

    The problem with all these razors I've gotten is that I have to use the same cream and blade type in order to do a controlled comparison.
    Cheers,
    Renato

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    All four models look great and I am pretty certain any of them may bring joy as a present - I might know it, since my old man is incidentally also a DE-shaving enthusiast, complete with natural bristles brushes and traditional shaving cream.
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    Interesting recommendations. I have the Merkur 23C which has the same head as the 34C and 33C. I don't know which head the 38C has, and haven't tried the Jagger.

    Personally, for that amount of money, I'd rather buy several razors - I bought three Merkurs for less than that amount on Ebay (and a $10 badger brush from Chine that looks and feels almost exactly the same as my $50 Jagger brush). As an instant semi-expert (i.e. semi -novice) I now realise that I'd have a hard time recommending anything relatively expensive to anyone. A month ago, using my Wilkinson Sword blade that I was running through my razors, the Merkur 23C would have been my favourite. But after I put my Gillette Super Thin blades into all my razors, I actually like the 23C copy razor - the Egyptian Lord 1822L (aka L6) Merkur head type razor - better than the actual 23C, and I like the Gillette 1956 Tech razor even more.

    After I get more blades in the mail and try them, I have no idea which razor I will like better. The other issue is that I and others may be mainly fans of relatively non aggressive razors, and you may well like them too, or you may find them annoying and prefer the more aggressive ones that I'm not as fond of e.g the Merkur Bakelite.

    Anyhow, they're nice stands. If you go for one of them, and do try other razors, it will be interesting see which razor eventually takes pride of place in that stand.
    Cheers,
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    I think I'll get my old man the Merkur HD 34C. Very good razor and I've been meaning to get that for myself actually. But I think I'll give the Merkur Futur a try

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    My Feather Artist RG straight razor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyujin View Post
    Weber seems to produce fewer razors than they can sell and they are often sold out. They seem to produce alternating batches of ARC and DLC heads. I had to wait a while before I could place my order. (The Mergress is worse in that respect, though.)

    I wouldn't rate the ARC as aggressive at all, it feels quite mild to me. I have sensitive skin and a tough beard, so I tend to prefer mild razors with sharp blades.
    My Weber DLC arrived in the mail today, just after I shaved. I really like the feel of the chunky handle.

    Blade &Badger says its blade gap is 24 thousandths of an inch, but I measure it at 21 - which should indeed make it mild.
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by mesaboogie View Post
    My Feather Artist RG straight razor

    Very nice picture, Sir

    I also own the AOS Sandalwood cream - nice fresh earthy take on sandalwood. Great cream.
    Rive Gauche is a favorite of mine 2 , just bought 3 backup 125 ml EDT bottles of it since it has been reformulated this year....
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    When I'm too lazy to strop one of my straights... (Which has been pretty often lately.)

    Merkur 39C Slanthammer
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    Mesa/Markstar awesome pic

    Guys recommend me a good shaving soap or cream.

    EDIT: maybe a Rive Gauche smell/vibe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oupavoc View Post
    Mesa/Markstar awesome pic

    Guys recommend me a good shaving soap or cream.

    EDIT: maybe a Rive Gauche smell/vibe
    I've now tried about a dozen shaving soaps and creams. People talk about their glide and cushioning - and I haven't quite fathomed cushioning, which is often associated with tallow based soap and soap sticks (not creams though).

    My favourite creams so far in order of slippiriness and how they glide are,
    Trumpers shaving cream - I use Sandalwood, but they're all the same I think, it was first recommended to me here a decade ago.

    Crabtree& Evelyn Nomad - almost as good as Trumpers, weird scent though.

    Erasmic - almost as good as Nomad, unusual scent though.

    Other creams that I've tried haven't been as good, but with the application of a little olive oil on the face before applying the cream and brushing it in, the incidence of nicks and abrasion were greatly reduced. Maybe this is what cushioning is about. However, applying the olive oil with Trumpers reduces its glide, and it acts like a cheap cream with olive oil acts.

    No soap I've tried - like Truefitt & Hill, Tabac, Erasmic soap stick are as slippery as Trumpers. However, I'm very fond of the Erasmic and La Toja soap sticks.
    Regards,
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    So theres nothing out there that smell like a barbershop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oupavoc View Post
    Mesa/Markstar awesome pic

    Guys recommend me a good shaving soap or cream.

    EDIT: maybe a Rive Gauche smell/vibe
    Thank you!

    Take a look at italianbarber.com, he is based in Canada and carries many fantastic wet-shaving products. I would also highly recommend his own, in-house brand, RazoRock. First rate product at very affordable prices.
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