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    Default Would you refuse Angel?

    I have some questions which are bothering me, and I thought you ladies may be able to clarify matters for me.

    One of my staff has recently gotten romantically involved with a lady (they're both in their 50s). When Valentine's Day came along, he was wondering what to get her, and I suggested Angel, as I'd never met any woman who disliked it. He then got her a 50ml refillable bottle in that fabulous star shape.

    Today he tells me, that she was over the moon receiving the present, but then gave him a long detailed explanation about how most scents don't work well with her, that she sticks to Opium, Este Lauder and a few other expensive obscure ones, and that Angel smelled like a man's aftershave on her. *End result, the Angel is going to someone else as a present.

    My questions are,
    a. Is it a not uncommon occurrence for some women to actually dislike Angel?
    b. Is it a not uncommon occurrence for Angel to react badly with some women, such that they wouldn't want to wear it, though they might not mind it on other women?

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    Default Re: Would you refuse Angel?

    Well, Angel is notoriously known as a "love-it-or-hate-it" fragrance... :-/

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    Hi, Renato!
    When Angel was new on the market (and "everybody" seemed to be wearing it) I had to ask at least two women what they were wearing, since I thought they smelled so gorgeous. They were wearing Angel. It didn`t smell quite the same on each lady, but still amazing. Of course I had to try it, but my dissapointment was huge, since it did not smell good on me. In fact it smelled awful, I had to scrub it off of my skin :P
    Some time later I tried it again, with the same result. Had a bunch of people sniffing my wrist, and they all did thumbs down. No more Angel for me, but I still think it can smell gorgeous on others...
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    Ahhhh that Angel and the forever-ongoing controversy! One person loves it, another one hates it! I completely agree with both cedriceccentric and musse on this one. Angel is a very tricky one… While it can smell like magic on one person on someone else it can be truly no more or less then musty dirt. Go figure!
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    a). I do dislike because everyone seems to wear it, I prefer to smell different from the crowd, and I'm not overly fond of gourmand or sweet sweet scents, but lots of women are.
    b). There's a distinct note of mould/cold earth amongst the sweetness when I sampled it (I think it's the patchouli), so it doesn't work with my chemistry.
    I'm also not a blind buyer, chemistry problems, so gifting would never work for me.

    My mum was given a bottle by dad, but she also is not fond of smelling edible, though it smells lovely on her.

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    Default Re: Would you refuse Angel?

    yep...what they said.
    Personnally Angel is a "scrubber".

    Just wondering but couldn't they return the bottle for something she would like? If she refused the gift completely, then I think that there's something else going on here.

    Just my 2 cent....
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    OMG! ANGEL has the reputation of being love or hate. About the LEAST universally loved perfume that I know. I thought it was the most vile perfume I had ever smelled...... I too am an Opium lover.
    Gotta say though..............because I bought a mini cause the star was so cute I did give Angel another chance. I now love it, but sometimes it's wonderful and sometimes I cannot stand it. It depends on the weather etc. I love the body cream the best but could never wear Angel on an everyday basis. It is one of my faves however.
    That lady probably HATES it. ;D

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    Default Re: Would you refuse Angel?

    Thank you all very much for your candid and most informative responses. I guess my puzzlement arose from mainly from my last and current girlfriends wearing Angel and universally getting positive comments when we went out or went shopping - something that didn't happen with their other scents.

    Anyhow, live and learn.
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    I love Angel madly but can't speak for half of the population...
    "Wovon man nicht lesen kann, darüber muss man schreiben."

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    Renato, my experience with Angel went something like this: First time I tried it, HATED it. Second time, I was physically sickened by it. Third time, loved it. However, I have never, ever gotten a compliment while wearing it. I have smelled it now on three people and I have to say it was, all three times, vomit-inducing; so much so that I'm terrified of wearing it again in public for fear that's how I actually smell in it. I don't mind not getting compliments, but I do mind making folks ill. After years of my fragrances always getting compliments, that's not something I could live with. I'm like Glorious1, sometimes I love it and sometimes I don't, but I love the body creme. Angel is a slippery slope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladylonestar
    Renato, my experience with Angel went something like this: *First time I tried it, HATED it. *Second time, I was physically sickened by it. *Third time, loved it. *However, I have never, ever gotten a compliment while wearing it. *I have smelled it now on three people and I have to say it was, all three times, vomit-inducing; so much so that I'm terrified of wearing it again in public for fear that's how I actually smell in it. *I don't mind not getting compliments, but I do mind making folks ill. *After years of my fragrances always getting compliments, that's not something I could live with. *I'm like Glorious1, sometimes I love it and sometimes I don't, but I love the body creme. *Angel is a slippery slope.
    If you'd told me this three weeks ago, I'd have thought your reaction a bit extremely weird - as I'd never had such a changeable reaction to a scent.
    But oddly enough I just went through something similar with a scent called Black Marlin, where I started off giving it a pretty negative review in the Male Fragrance Discussion, then finally wound up buying it and thinking it's pretty good. And curiously, it has a bit of an A*men feel to it, even though its main component is apple.
    Renato

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigrushka
    I love Angel madly but can't speak for half of the population... *
    It's good to see that at least someone here unequivocally likes it.
    Renato

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    Quote Originally Posted by cedriceccentric
    Well, Angel is notoriously known as a "love-it-or-hate-it" fragrance... :-/
    True. And I would personally refuse it. Not that I hate it, but it does not work well on me as no matter how little a put (I even tried to apply it with a roll-on bottle), it is always too strong to the point of nausea, and sticks to my clothes even after laundry!

    I would refuse an Angel gift, though I would be delighted as it is such a thoughtful present and surely tells a lot about how the person feels towards me.
    I would probably not refuse Violet Angel though, it is a more friendly scent than Angel to me - but will prefer to wear it dabbed rather than sprayed...

    I think your friend should not be offended - be happy that the lady recognized his thoughtful and romantic intentions by buying her such a gorgeous perfume gift, and buy her Opium in parfum or Estee or whatever else she likes in stead... Or: go with her for a romantic perfume shopping tour, and choose a scent that they both like, together...
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    Default Re: Would you refuse Angel?

    On me Angel smells like alcohol-soaked-graham crackers and Pine-Sol. So, if I got it as a gift it would quickly head out the door- to Tigs probably! ;D (Of course I'd be kindly gracious and wouldn't make a scene about it or anything- I just wouldn't wear it.)

    I can't say I really hate Angel though, because I have whiffed it on others and it can be lovely and alluring.

    I do love wearing Angel Innocent though. :-*
    Scent is such a lovely, simple pleasure!

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    Personally, I believe that men should refrain from giving fragrances to a woman unless they know her and what she likes very, very well. I've had more than a few disasters, and then you're stuck wearing the damn thing every time you go out with him so as not to hurt his feelings, and end up dumping him just because you can't stand to wear the stuff anymore. Laugh, but I'm dead serious. I have done this.

    Which all the more surprises me - not you, Renato, you were sweet to offer your assistance - that a man would ask someone who doesn't even know the woman what to give her. She must be very much in love with him to even bother to explain. :

    For the future - there is no such thing as a fool-proof fragrance. Not Angel, not any other. None. Zero. Zilch.

    Say it with diamonds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorious1
    Gotta say though..............because I bought a mini cause the star was so cute I did give Angel another chance.
    Same story, recently. I am still on the mini though ;D
    I don´t love the first 15 minutes after application yet, but after that I think it´s divine.

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    I agree with FroFro. *Perfume is such a personal choice that gifting it can be a disaster unless you know the recipient's likes and dislikes! *I love Angel when I'm in the mood to wear it, but I can understand why some dislike it with a passion! * :-?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FroFro

    Which all the more surprises me - not you, Renato, you were sweet to offer your assistance - that a man would ask someone who doesn't even know the woman what to give her. *She must be very much in love with him to even bother to explain. * :

    For the future - there is no such thing as a fool-proof fragrance. *Not Angel, not any other. *None. *Zero. *Zilch. *

    Say it with diamonds.
    Oh I have met her a few times - she seemed pretty classy. The whole thing is complicated somewhat by the fact that they live over 150 miles apart, that they both work, and so he couldn't just jump in a car and go down to the city and get her to go with him and buy something.
    Renato

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Linda
    I agree with FroFro. *Perfume is such a personal choice that gifting it can be a disaster unless you know the recipient's likes and dislikes! *I love Angel when I'm in the mood to wear it, but I can understand why some dislike it with a passion! * :-?
    I think your attitude mirrors that of many of the guys at the male discussion site - there are numerous scents they just "hate". Whereas I'm in the camp where I hate none, there are some I dislike, a few I dislike a lot, but I like most. My current ladyfriend is pretty much like me - I've bought her about 20 she'd never smelled before, and she liked them all. Most of my female friends are like that, with the exception of one from 5 years ago, who was very particular and only into Chanel.

    Hmmm - if I'd thought about it, this woman who didn't like the Angel had certain striking similarities to the latter Chanel loving one.
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    My take. *I think if a guy gave me perfume for Valentine's Day, I'd give it a few chances before telling him it wasn't for me. *Actually, I'm not sure if I'd ever react negatively over a gift that was based on such a sweet thought. *He did his best. *That's what would warm my heart. *And she could wear it just for him "on special occasions." *Who knows, it may have grown on her.

    My husband gave me a bottle of Jovan's White Musk years ago when we first started dating, and I was repulsed by it's scent - and oh! *How cheap! *Is that all he could afford? *Whatever I was thinking, it occurred to me later that what I had wasn't the only one in town, and mentally I kicked myself for being such a shallow, self-absorbed snot. *I grew to love White Musk because every time I wore it (and still do), I think of how his handsome face lit up with a shy smile when he gave it to me "just because." *Y'know what? *It's a man magnet, cheap or not, and it led me to the man I fell deeply in love with and married. *Couldn't have asked for more than that. *;D ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato
    Oh I have met her a few times - she seemed pretty classy.
    He he he. Pray tell, Renato, are you suggesting that if a woman doesn't like Angel, she's not classy? I might take issue with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renato
    The whole thing is complicated somewhat by the fact that they live over 150 miles apart, that they both work, and so he couldn't just jump in a car and go down to the city and get her to go with him and buy something.
    Renato
    I never suggested that's what he should do. In fact, I specifically said (and I quote): "Say it with diamonds." True, that might be somewhat of an exaggeration; however, there are masses and masses of little cute girly things that would do fine - a pin, a necklace, a bracelet, a nice manicure set, little artsy stuff. And they'll last longer, too.

    Perfume is, in my opinion, even more intimate than lingerie. Of course, that's just me. I'm weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FufuLaRue
    My take. *I think if a guy gave me perfume for Valentine's Day, I'd give it a few chances before telling him it wasn't for me. *Actually, I'm not sure if I'd ever react negatively over a gift that was based on such a sweet thought. *He did his best. *That's what would warm my heart. *And she could wear it just for him "on special occasions." *Who knows, it may have grown on her.
    He told me she did in fact initially suggest she'd keep it just for going out with him, but since it sounded to him like it was going to be an onerous burden, the ensuing discussion led to their agreeing it would be a good present for a party they were going to.
    Renato

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    Quote Originally Posted by FroFro
    [He he he. *Pray tell, Renato, are you suggesting that if a woman doesn't like Angel, she's not classy? *I might take issue with that. *

    I never suggested that's what he should do. *In fact, I specifically said (and I quote): "Say it with diamonds." *True, that might be somewhat of an exaggeration; however, there are masses and masses of little cute girly things that would do fine - a pin, a necklace, a bracelet, a nice manicure set, little artsy stuff. *And they'll last longer, too.

    Perfume is, in my opinion, even more intimate than lingerie. *Of course, that's just me. *I'm weird.
    I meant classy - as in cheap stuff wouldn't do - and I was right in that respect.

    Some men and women must have differing perceptions of underwear. To me, I found a brand I like that fits well, and I spend $15 for a packet of 10 assorted colour ones every so often. End of story.
    The vagaries of those those frilly, different coloured, tiger striped, see through etc expensive women's ones seem to totally escape me, and has been the cause of some exasperation with me.
    Renato

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    They're pretty, Renato. Sometimes it's as simple as that. ;D
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    Let's put it this way.....................Angel is VERY powerful. Positive or negative. I've had one man think it was the most wonderful thing he'd ever smelled.....one man never had to do anything but recoil! I could tell with his body language. MIND YOU......these men were other people's husbands....and I was watching their reactions from an objective point of view. Needless to say............they were not a romantic interest but it was interesting to watch and observe.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorious1
    Let's put it this way.....................Angel is VERY powerful. *Positive or negative. *I've had one man think it was the most wonderful thing he'd ever smelled.....one man never had to do anything but recoil! *I could tell with his body language. *MIND YOU......these men were other people's husbands....and I was watching their reactions from an objective point of view. *Needless to say............they were not a romantic interest but it was interesting to watch and observe.......
    I can't argue with that - my last girfriend landed me with Angel.
    What I can't fathom is any guy recoiling from someone on whom it smelled good (i.e. uncorrupted in the manner some women's skins apparently do corrupt it in) - I'd have to think something was seriously wrong with the guy.
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    It was a lovely thought as a present. However, Angel is such a love it/hate it scent. I have Angel and the body creme, and I wear them and like them--however, weather is a factor, and I always apply it lightly. MY DH likes Angel lightly applied, but I doubt that he would like it if I applied it liberally since it is such a full-bodied fragrance.

    It is good that she was up front with him--if he wants to give her scent in the future, he will know what works for her, and surely one of the ones she can wear can become special to him.

    I would never think it was a good idea for someone to wear a scent they can't tolerate just because someone else likes it. How could this create good memories of their times together?

    I, too, am blessed with "one of those chemistries". I can't wear everything that smells good on others.

    In the past I've been know to gift someone with scent--but I've learned it is best to find out what their favorites are before I choose--or, if possible, go on a "sniffathon" with them to choose something they really like.

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    Default Re: Would you refuse Angel?

    I'd only refuse Mitsouko. It wouldn't be polite, but I don't think I'd be able to hide my dismay.
    Please, spritz responsibly.

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    I don't hate many fragrances in general, since I tend to appreciate different fragrances for different reasons, but I do have to say that there are quite a few that I categorically hate ON ME. I made the mistake of buying J'adore because I thought it smelled lovely on my friend, but I absolutely hated the way it smelled on me. I wouldn't recommend buying perfume as a gift--it's too much of a risk--unless of course you don't mind if the recipient doesn't actually wear it. I've never tried Angel (gasp!) and would love to get my hands on a sample!


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    While I agree that buying fragrances for others carries some risk, it's still a lovely thought. *I came to know and love 5th Avenue, Coco and Dolce Vita because they were gifts to me. *I had never even heard of any of them before receiving them.

    My greatest fragrance mistakes for myself were actually made by... ME. *:-[

    When BN members ask for fragrance gift suggestions/recommendations, I suggest what they should or may want to check out based on their knowledge of the recipient(s).

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