L'Ombres is a green and tart. clear fragrance. There are no earth or grounding notes to it. It is all about transparency -- even its name "Shadow on the water," connnotes this haunting, illusiveness, not a solid body. It does not want rounding or grounding.
BTW -- you can get other L'Ombres products like bath ane hair wash, etc.
And the famous Baies candles (white or my favorite, the more intense Noir)
Voleur de Rose (which means Rose thief) Is a far edgier, more overtly masculine take on rose. I do not particularly like it. It is on the dry side. It has a less pronounced Rose note, the patchouly dominates (along with plum *and woods) to create a sense of the whole rose, stem, thorn and even garden earth for a while but teh dry down looses its rose unless you put it on fabric instead of skin. It is a heavier, almost too heavy scent which on me is not refreshingly tart (like L'Ombres) but sour. *I am sure this works on some chemistries but it still smells a mite clunky to me.
I think if you want to go to an wet, earthier rose and like patchouly, you might want to explore Parfums de Rosine Une Folie de Rose or if it is the woody side you prefer try Montale Aoud Rose Petals or Frederic Malle's Une Rose or Serge Lutens Rose de Nuit.