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    I admire the intellectualism of L’Artisan Parfuneur. I also believe it is a genuine niche house because the products are certainly designed for individual tastes rather than mass-market appeal. Once in a while they develop a fragrance that might possibly become mass-market and I’m sure they are happy about the sales, but I don’t think that fact changes their vision very much.

    I don’t think L’Artisan expects a person to enjoy all or even most of their products—they expect that, depending on the individual wearer, some fragrances will be loved (I love Timbuktu), some will be disliked (I dislike Dzing!) and most will little effect one way or another (L’Eau de L’Artisan—ehh!).

    They offer a wide variety, catering to many tastes. The fragrances tend to stay closer to the skin rather than being sillage monsters, although there are exceptions. I also find the L’Artisans have better longevity than they are often given credit for.

    The literature that L’Artisan puts out tells that the scents are designed to provoke individual memories. I believe they have accomplished that. I find myself intimately connected to several of the perfumes.

    Quote Originally Posted by tigrushka
    When speaking of L'Artisan it's impossible to pass Passage d'Enfer which carries the name of L'Artisan street address. PdE is a Roman Catholic church in a bottle, incense and white lilies.
    Speaking of individual memories. I am fortunate to be old enough to remember the old Catholicism— Easter lilies, the overwhelming smell of the flowers in the empty church, the mystery and mysticism of the almost two thousand year old Latin mass, the visual and olfactory aura of the benediction, the incensing of the congregation, true beeswax candles: Passage d’Enfer captures these ambiances brilliantly, but its genius is that it doesn’t stop there. This fragrance presents not simply the AROMAS of the Catholic mass, it presents the TIME sequences, as well. And ‘time’ is what Passage d’Enfer is really about: it is an extremely complex and well thought-out fragrance that arrays itself in layers to trap a movement in time as it captures the aromas of space. L’Artisan’s Passage d’Enfer seems to have been specifically created to take advantage of the special nature of aromas and odors to access memory.

    The ‘passage’ may originally have been a street, but in the fragrance, it is a movement—a movement in time and memory, but I don’t think one has to have been raised Catholic (that only makes it a little easier) to either comprehend or benefit from this fragrance—this is a fragrance for all mankind—especially those who feel the unbearable beauty of the unbroken chain of humanity’s past-present-future.

    Because Passage D’Enfer uses time as an ingredient, it becomes one of those fragrances that the willing wearer can actually live in for an hour or three or six—a liberating capsule of 'evolving' within the prison of space. It is an unbelievably adaptable fragrance. It is really Catholic, it is also really catholic. It is universal. And...it is an eminently wearable fragrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foetidus
    They offer a wide variety, catering to many tastes. The fragrances tend to stay closer to the skin rather than being sillage monsters, although there are exceptions. I also find the L’Artisans have better longevity than they are often given credit for.
    Thank you, Foetidus. At last. 'Bout time this issue came up. I know there are L'Artisan non-fans out there. I'm sure someone here will read Foetidus's line about L'Artisan's better longevity and say "hogwash!" Let's hear from them.

    L'Artisan is VERY frequently assailed for despicable longevity. And with that Mercedes-Benz price tag. Whadda rip!

    Is this true?

    Come on you members of the loyal L'Artisan opposition, this isn't a love-fest thread. Let's hear some substantive thoughts about experience where L'Artisan scents disappointed. There must be some stories out there. The hey, what are they talking about--this is supposed to be good? type stories.
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    Longevity isn't the usually the problem. Some of them could use a more dynamic presence on the skin. It's as if they need to open up, come alive. It's like they have a thin layer of something around them inhibiting their full expression. Any time I hear "close to the skin" I become less inspired by what's to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pluran
    Longevity isn't the usually the problem. Some of them could use a more dynamic presence on the skin. It's as if they need to open up, come alive. It's like they have a thin layer of something around them preventing their full expression. Any time I hear "close to the skin" I become less inspired by what's to come.

    exactly, its not longevity, its projection. A L'Artisan can be an all day experience, but they tend to be personal or intimate experiences.

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    [Joel_Cairo] "A L'Artisan can be an all day experience, but they tend to be personal or intimate experiences."

    An excellent point and an important one to remember when comparing niches with designers. They are designed in different ways and with a different vision/purpose in mind. You can't have the same expectations from both.

    Also, thank you everyone for this very educational discussion.

    Personally, I agree that L'AP's are quality fragrances but with no "sillage" or "longevity" as we normally refer to these terms. I find that at least SOME L'A scents are a bit too literal. Almost like, "You want vanilla? We'll give you vanilla!" I think essential oils can do that. Still most L'A are more complex and more imaginative than that.
    And the memory and mood aspect, I am very senitive to scents (not in terms of allergies, thank God, but in terms of evoking moods and memories) I can get that from other fragrances and even a cup of fresh coffee at the right place and time--but that's just me. I feel lucky that I don't have to pay that sort of a price for that purpose.
    I completely respect those who love and enjoy this house. However, I find some quality designers (e.g. Chanel) satisfy my needs much better in all of the above ways. Some of those scents just blow me away. Sadly, no L'AP has done that so far.
    Of the ones I've tried, I like Mechant Loup the best. It's masculine enough and honestly wearable. I also liked Voleur de Roses (feminine to me) with very interesting development, and Safron Troublant (again feminine).
    Dzing! and Bois Farine are novel but not wearable IMHO. Tea for Two, Timbuktu (sp?), L'eau are good but it's not like you can't get those type of scents elsewhere. They're good but in the end, I thought, "So what?"
    Still, I'm less disappointed in this house than some other niches (namely Creed). But that's another thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel_Cairo
    A L'Artisan can be an all day experience, but they tend to be personal or intimate experiences.
    Well said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renaissance_Man
    Personally, I agree that L'AP's are quality fragrances but with no "sillage" or "longevity" as we normally refer to these terms. I find that at least SOME L'A scents are a bit too literal. Almost like, "You want vanilla? We'll give you vanilla!"


    Vanilia is one of the L'Artisans I can't bear, it's a massive vanilla overdose! It reminds me of a huge vat of vanilla ice cream forgotten out in the sun to melt all over the place... But I know it's the Vanilla Holy Grail to many people. Just not for me.
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    In general, I find L'Artisan is an awesome fragrance house with many gems in its collection. It may be the nature of a house with sophistication as main principle (and main marketing argument) to produce fragrances that are mostly non-mainstream and therefore polarize.

    There are some L'Artisans that I love, wear on any occasion and that last quite long on me: Passage d'Enfer, Dzing, Tea for Two, Safran Troublant.
    There are others I love but that are reserved for special occasions, e.g. Bois Farine (one of the most comfortable and relaxing scent I have), Orchidee Blanche (extremely powdery, not too sweet and much more wearable for a man than you would suppose given its name), Piment Brulant (chilli powder, anyone?), Ambre Extreme (only when it's cold). Many others are wonderful, but lack of sillage and staying power, e.g. Ananas Fizz or Navegar (I would do anything for Navegar Extreme...)
    And there are Artisans that are somehow difficult for me. The pour un Ete, for example. Its topnotes are just weird on me. A bit musty, muddy, just strange. It takes some time until this one reveals its actual soft freshness to me - then it lasts quite long and is a really nice, brightening fragrance. Another odd one is Voleur de Roses. When I first smelled it, I couldn't stand it at all. It took me some time to appreciate this strange mixture of heavy, earthy patchouli and rosewood. Sometimes, I like it, but it's not for everday and I have to be in the right mood for that one (same with Mechant Loup). I don't have a final opinion about Fou d'Absinthe - I find it quite loud and the mixture of notes a bit chaotic, and the whole composition tends to be cloying in the warmer season. I'll give that one another try when it's cooler.

    After all, I appreciate L'Artisans effort to have produced many exceptional, amazing fragrances even if some of their scents aren't too innovative and others that simply aren't to my taste.

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    I am so new to fragrances and am hopeless when it comes to describing the different notes. Having said that, I so appreciate this thread, the different descriptions, and the hose of L'artisan.

    I got a decant of PdE and couldn't stand it . Just too......I don't know; just nasty to my nose .

    Months went by as I collected new-to-me colognes and I enjoyed most. Then I blindly bought(due to someone's review?) Timbuktu . What a gloriously 'different' scent and it lasts on me. I can't stop sniffing my arm when I have it on. If relaxes me and makes me smile as it mesmerizes me .

    I got Premier Figuier next and it's nice but not a "Timbuktu" but it too was different from any of my collection of frags. In fact, I chose it for my SOTD this morning. I love figs and we have a tree in our yard and they are almost ready to be picked. It's a 'keeper'.

    Next, I ordered two L'a's; Navegar and Mure et Musc Extreme. Nav isn't in the running with the rest of my L'as. It's just too 'piney' to my nose. Now my Musc is second only to my Timbuktu. I layered it on top of my PF this afternoon and its milkyness is sweet and sensual.

    This house offers so many scents that are just not found elsewhere, similar to the Montale offerings but different and you certainly won't smell them on others.


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    First time I took a look at the L'artisan site, I was impressed by the motto introducing their scents: Des eaux de toilette qui vous parlent. Actually, to tell stories you need to be adventurous and this quality beholds for sure to this house. In fact they have always been brave enough to dare using some unusual notes. How not to mention the graceful Bois farine in which iris and fennel seeds magistrally melt to the flowers of Reunion Ilsand smelling exactly like a bakery: raw leavening bread, just baked sweet cakes and fresh flour floating in the air. A coup de genie from Monsieur Ellena! Another surprising one was DZING! not just for his drydown which makes it pretty in the same line of many sweet-leathery scents, but for the hazardous topnotes of sawdust and musk which makes it pretty unique: a surprising one from Giacobetti. Not one of my favourites (it's known I don't like coffee note in scents) but for sure innovative at that time (1982) when gourmands were not yet so popular, L'Eau du navigateur takes far memories of the ancient ships loaded with spices and coffee from the Indies. In fact I far prefer letting my travel on the effluvium of Navegar, taking me on the seashore, walking among old overturned boats drenched in sun and salty water. Also Mechant Loup, aside a traditional use of woody notes like vetyver, has the power to give it an unuasual twist, loading it with dripping honeycombs and above all to let you discover a surprising heartnote in the heart of the wood: hazelnut. Simply perfect, half way between woody and gourmand! Last of all, probably the less innovative but one of the most emotional ones, Voleur de roses, which many of you have already superbly discribed: nothing to add about it.
    About the lasting power and sillage question my point of view is that the question is pretty subjective. On me most of them have good lasting power. About sillage, some scents like Mechant Loup have very good sillage while others like Voleur de roses have a closer aura.
    For sure you won't expect yourself to like all their juices but you'll find some true gem among them.

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    I've been to their boutique a few times and have tried on most of their masculine fragrances and have to say, with the exception of Timbuktu, they were quite dilute and short lived. I love exotic, spicy scents like Timbuktu, Eau des Iles is one of my favorite scents and I find it to be even more intense and complex. I think the concepts behind Artisans fragrances are great, the packaging is cool, but they don't live up to my expectations. Maybe it's just an issue of them adding too much water or alcohol, any thoughts on this? Mechant Loup is a very simple licorice scent, Dzing smells like hay, and that's it, they don't evolve, not on my skin at least. Oh, Passage D'Enfer smells like urine on me, thankfully it's so weak!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidulariumblossom
    I've been to their boutique a few times and have tried on most of their masculine fragrances and have to say, with the exception of Timbuktu, they were quite dilute and short lived. I love exotic, spicy scents like Timbuktu, Eau des Iles is one of my favorite scents and I find it to be even more intense and complex. I think the concepts behind Artisans fragrances are great, the packaging is cool, but they don't live up to my expectations. Maybe it's just an issue of them adding too much water or alcohol, any thoughts on this? Mechant Loup is a very simple licorice scent, Dzing smells like hay, and that's it, they don't evolve, not on my skin at least. Oh, Passage D'Enfer smells like urine on me, thankfully it's so weak!
    I understand what you're saying to an extent, but the way it's written I can't really find much common ground.

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    I am wearing Passage d'Enfer today, and I am struck again by how beautiful it is. This scent really seems to blossom in the warmer weather, when it takes you on a lovely, meditative journey; the lily adds just the right touch to the incense.
    Many of my favorites from this house are, in fact, scents that I wear during the warmer weather; the light touch that characterizes them seems particularly appropriate then. And, although I wear very few florals in the winter, they call to me in the warmer months.
    Other favorites include:
    Fleur d'Oranger--an incredible scent, though not one many men will probably wear. Heartbreakingly beautiful!
    Orchidee Blanche: sadly discontinued, though some bottles are still available. Strange, harsh opening on me, but an absolutely lovely drydown.
    La Chasse aux Papillons
    La Haie Fleurie du Hameau
    The pour un Ete
    Safran Troublan
    Poivre Piquant
    Timbuktu
    Mechant Loup
    L'Eau de Navigateur
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilybp
    I am wearing Passage d'Enfer today, and I am struck again by how beautiful it is. This scent really seems to blossom in the warmer weather, when it takes you on a lovely, meditative journey; the lily adds just the right touch to the incense....
    Lillies' blossoms open now, and to me also, this is the time when the fragrance exudes an extra special charm. The strange thing is, that PdE has actually no lily (it cannot have). There is a lighter floral mix evoking the idea only. I received this info at L' Artisans last summer.

    Have a look at peaceful Passage D' Enfer, a painters favorite, which cannot but have inspired the scent creation:

    http://www.ster.kuleuven.be/~janv/PARIS_2/slides/SIMG4796.html

    If fragrances were visible - Passage d'Enfer would be white daylight in my mind! Only L'Homme Sage evokes a similar vision in me.
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    Hello
    This is my very first post on the forum, so maybe my comments are a bit amateuristic;-). I tried 3 fragrances from L'artisan parfumeur:
    voleur de roses: quite fresh, nose of roses is quite dominating with some earthy undertone. I get the impressions it evolves to something a bit more spicy after a while. I like the smell but it is not something I would actually wear everyday, I would almost call it feminine
    fou d'absinthe: insence top notes, woody. Evolving to something green(pine). A very mature and masculine fragrance.
    bois fariné: almond milk is my very first impression, way to sweet for my taste. I do like the powdery notes, but altough the initial sweetness blows off after a while I still think it is on the sweet side.
    So from the ones I tried I would say it are all intoxicating and complex smells, but just not my cup of tea, but I am convinced I should just try their other fragrances.

    greetings from Belgium
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    Nice pic Narcus!
    It really takes me back to my summer holidays in Paris...

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    Stuff I own from L'Artisan:
    Navegar - Sharp, citric, green top notes, like some freshly cut pungent vegetation, then dries down to sweet wood which is the softest I've come across among any woods. There is some incense mingling around in the middles and it makes the scent even more sophisticated and unpredictable. Definitely one of the most artistic L'artisan scents.
    Voleur de Roses - Rather fresh, green and vivid rose scent with some earthiness at the base. This is the most melancholic scent I've known. When some say L'artisan scents are psychedelic I think they are talking about scents like VdR.
    Dzing! - Must be the wierdest of weird. Candy/Ice cream top notes then animal fur and rubbery leather. I don't know..if you want a truly exciting and overwhelming scent this could be it because its too strange. I wish I bought Mechant Loup or t42 instead, not that I hate it though.

    And stuff that I've tried:
    Mechant Loup - Supposedly a honey scent, I think the honey is very subtle and give it a faint animalistic feel. I don't know much about the individual notes but overall its very complex, well rounded and smooth scent, green, not too sweet and a bit peppery.
    Tea for Two - tea, honey, smoke and something balmy/minty but also much more than that.
    Poivre Piquent - I don't remember exactly how this smelled but its something really subtle and unpredictable, pepper and something sweet.
    Others that I've tried, like Passage D'enfer & Mure et Musc are more feminine than the above, imo.

    Overall I think L'artisans are great. They are my favourite niche house if I had to choose one. They can be weird but not unwearable due to the upbeat, 'not so serious' feel of their scents. For example someone on basenotes said t42 smelled like smoking dope or dzing, like moth balls but compare them to the downright offputting pungentness of some Lutens I think L'artisan scents are much more comforting to wear.

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    Tea For Two - My favorite fragrance of all time. Dark, mysterious, smokey, an instant attention-grabber. The women will follow you around until the end of time on this one. Good for fall, winter, or intimate encounters any time of the year. Watch your bottle, or someone will certainly steal it.

    Fou d'Absinthe - An amazing scent. It smells like a dark green but it's not too much of it. Very mysterious also, and dark. Another incredible scent. Good for evenings anytime of year, and fall and winter.

    Navegar - Very subtle and smooth. At first I get aquatic and citrus, then it gets a little spicer and woody. This one is very relaxing and amazing. Good for spring and summer. Also heavy enough for evenings.

    Mure Et Musc - Very light berry scent. It smells great in my opinion and is not too feminine for us guys that ooze masculinity. Great for spring and summer. Looking forward to trying the extreme version and Cologne Mure Et Musc.

    L'eau De L'Artisan - Smells very fresh and grassy with citrus. Last a while and gives you the clean, out of the shower feel when you wear it. Smells like what a spring and summer day should. Ideal for spring and summer.

    Dzing! - Heavy stuff, but amazing. Leather, rubber, smoke, black tea. Winter and fall delight. Intimate encounters also. My second favorite L'Artisan. I get animalic scent and then baked goods. I really like this.
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    I've waited and waited before replying to this thread, but I guess there is no need to wait anymore... And why wait? Well, I hate not having thought about important issues like this one enough and L'Artisan is for sure important.

    Voleur de Roses was my first encounter and a blind buy. I was kind of dissapointed even though I liked the fragrance. I like it more now, but I have to be in a certain mood to wear it and I can grow tired of it after a few hours. I' not sure why this happens, but I guess it has to do with how specifically moody I find it. Not very versatile in my opinion, but perfect for walks in heavy rain or just sitting in your window looking out on a rainy, crowded street.

    Dzing! was second out and all it promised to be and more. One of my most valuable fragrances in my wardrobe. Very impressive and still has that wow-feeling I got when I first tried it. I love fragrances that take me to specific places and/or shows very specific scenarios/pictures/textures. This one does it in a most vivid way as you all know.

    L'Eau de L'Artisan became my third full bottle from L'Artisan. One I loved from the moment I first sampled it. I just can't get enough of grassy notes and the ones in here are just splendid. Other than that, I guess it is not overly impressive, but nice and versatile enough to get a lot of wearings. Perfect choice for me when I have to be around people who might not appreciate scents the way I do, but still want to be able disappear somewhere (preferably to a newly mowed lawn of my own choice, situated somewhere in my childhood) by a sniff of my wrist.

    Those are the only full bottles I have from the company, even though there are several more I find highly intruiging. Shame on me. And even though I've tested nine other L'Artisan I bet my next purchase from them will be a blind one: Tea for Two.

    Hopefully I'll return to this thread with some comments on the other nine in the foreseeable future.
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    Retired Mure et Musc and came to the conclusion that, I just dont want to smell like blueberries. It's alright but, I dont see it to my advantage to wear this fragrance. Too many other good scents out there to wear. Hopefully the Cologne Mure et Musc I requested is better.

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    Tea for two is really beautiful, nice composed scent. I have bought this one and enjoy it very much. Even today I was wearing it although it was very hot in Vilnius.

    What would be the next mine l'artisan?

    Very exotic,nutty, warm, tropically warm, woody, powdery, very very distinctive is Bois Farine. I have a sample of it but can not imagine is it easy to wear it. It can be very cloying. Bois Farine to my mind is more interesting than Mechant Loup. Mechant loup is too slight to me.

    I have my favorite orientals, but don't have much scents which I would like for summer, for every day. Primier Figuier I think would be a good alternative. I haven't liked Edp version. Edt is more green, more natural.
    If you want the greenist one - go for Edt; then- bit sweeter- Diptyque Philosykos. I haven' t liked so much Navegar, Eau l'artisan.

    Passage d'enfer???? maybe . too psychedelic? this is a scent for a sane man??
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    This was the first niche house that I ever sampled. And it would be safe to say that its now my all time favorite house! To me the thing that puts it ahead of any other house, is the fact that they still manage to have a level of mystery in there products. I shouldnt ewen say products, more like stories.

    Fou d'Absinthe: Just received a sample of this magical poetry in a bottle, and i must say, it´s stunning! (side note:There should be a fainting smiley face. Because some sents are just the kinda Oh my. Im having the vapors! ) sents. This is just what i was hoping it would be. Boozy, green and totally comforting cent. I can really see in my souls eyes when i sniffing it, an old library in a mansion in the 1800 century, fire place and wind beating the windows outside. And someone who looks like stylish Dracula (minus the fangs), is cooking up the potion. You can feel the sugar burning in the spoon. And when you take your first sip of the Green Fairy, you forget the storm outside and fell in a deep coma like space, where your soul can rest.

    And like Joel_Cairo said, it doesnt have the Crazy for Absinthe feel like the name suggest. But I myself can see the visuals that Joel said it was lacking. Tru, it doesnt tell you what they should be, but it leaves you open to your own fantasies. And to me thats the best thing about this lovely potion. It doesnt give you a story, It allows you to create them

    Bois Farine: I just love sents like these. Just like Fou d'Absinthe, it doesnt push it self to your face, but lets you in little by little...
    This has to be one of the most comforting cents out there. Smells like my moms house when shes baking bread. Just put a little sweetnes the the flour, and Voila!, you have your self a plate full of Bois Farine.

    Voleur de Roses: AH! The crypt is damp today my corpse bride. This actually smells like your making love to a beautiful zombie girl. The rose is the beauty, and wet moist is the smell of her skin, thats covered in leaves and morning dew. You feel almost bad when you wear this, because it projects a Rose unlike anything I have yeat come accross, but the part when you can smell the dying ground, it will leave a permanent mark on peoples psyche. It feels like you shouldnt wear it out on the open, its not made for casual strolling around the town. Because people wont understand it. It is better worn when it rains and you deside to take a walk on the graveyard with your special someone. Slowly you both lay on the wet ground and can feel eyes looking at your every move, but you get lost on the eyes of your lover and float with the universe. Then you take the knife and cut her open, then your self. You both corres each other as the blood mixes with the wet soil. After that you both lay there, dying. The last thing they see is when Michel Almairac stands above them and says. Vos âmes vivront pour l'éternité and kneels down...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace
    Voleur de Roses: AH! The crypt is damp today my corpse bride. This actually smells like your making love to a beautiful zombie girl. [...] you get lost on the eyes of your lover and float with the universe. Then you take the knife and cut her open, then your self. You both corres each other as the blood mixes with the wet soil. After that you both lay there, dying. ...
    Dude, that sure is weird--I don't get that from VdR at all.
    --Chris
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    Mechant Loup

    Twice since this thread went up I've put some [/Bold]Mechant Loup[Bold] on the back of a hand to check it out yet again. I've given it full wearings from other samples in the years before, but confound it--I just hate this stuff.

    It's like a sweetened and "subtlized" Gucci Pour Homme--shavings of wood that are burnt, with honey, nuts, something antiseptic, and oh my god, just too much cloying nicey-nicey. Nothing mechant about it, and no fangs of the wolf either. This is one of those scents that is so sweet and charming nice boy that you could never look mad in it. It reminds me most of the effect of that Paradox Pour Homme dreck made by Jacomo, which is bland dried suede and cotton candy. There's no mechant, and zero loupine. There's some kind of tailing incense to it too, but mostly like ash from burned incense rather than incense itself. Yukko. Not my bag, fellas.

    Worst of all it's hard to get an oomph of the essence of the scent. Even in its sillage the fun part of the kernel of the scent, its nucleus, if you will, is far away from the nose, like smelling through a tube. Most of what you get with a whiff is filler, the actual smelly scent part is just a teasing molecule far away that you can never get up your nose--your whiff can pull it toward you, but before it goes into the death star of your nostril, your whiff is already all sucked in. I hate this. Parts of it are like the sulfur of a match head when it first lights too. No thanks.

    "Big Bad Wolf"--isn't that the way I've seen "Mechant Loup" translated a few times? Well this scent is a reminder that the big bad wolf huffed and puffed three times to blow the little pigs's houses down. This product is best a reminder that the wolf surely had bad breath.

    This one's for all of you guys out there, I guess.
    --Chris
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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB
    Dude, that sure is weird--I don't get that from VdR at all.
    --Chris
    Hmmm

    To me thats obvious that those kinda things come to mind. Its a mix between good and evil and ad a healthy dose of romance, and thats why I get that

    It might be because im not still quite shure if i like the green aura of it, it just raunchy. Thats why i get the death wibe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB
    Mechant Loup
    (...)
    Nothing mechant about it, and no fangs of the wolf either. This is one of those scents that is so sweet and charming nice boy that you could never look mad in it.
    (...)
    There's no mechant, and zero loupine.
    (...)
    "Big Bad Wolf"--isn't that the way I've seen "Mechant Loup" translated a few times? Well this scent is a reminder that the big bad wolf huffed and puffed three times to blow the little pigs's houses down. This product is best a reminder that the wolf surely had bad breath.

    I guess a most appropriate translation is "Naughty Wolf" more in the sense of mischievous or artful rather than bad... Just like what can be bad in a fable or just how can be bad a guy which speaks with a seductive and tempting voice rather than the "b@st@rd" kinda guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB
    Mechant Loup

    Twice since this thread went up I've put some [Bold]Mechant Loup[/Bold] on the back of a hand to check it out yet again. I've given it full wearings from other samples in the years before, but confound it--I just hate this stuff.
    Same here, it really is not for me. It has a damp feeling to i I just hate in fragrances and I find a similar dampness in David Beckham Instinct. Not very flattering...

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    Mechant Loup is one of the rare L'Artisans I never warmed up to. It sounds better than it smells, the notes looked good to me but the smell was disappointing: there's something dusty and stale about it.

    Patchouli Patch is another one I don't like, no patchouli, instead it reminds me of stale Cream Crackers.

    And I love all those "museum-smelling" Etro scents! ML & PP just don't appeal to me.
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    Well,

    I recieved a 100ml bottle of Mure et Musc in the mail. It was quite a shocker for my uninitiated nostrils. Thats some powerful musk! I am leaft wondering about the comments (on the basenotes page for the cologne), something along the lines of '.. a scent everyone appreciates. In my opinion this fragrence would at least have polarized opinions about it.
    Time to try the next L'Artisan. I can't help but feel like Ron Burgundy with this stuff on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB
    "Big Bad Wolf"--isn't that the way I've seen "Mechant Loup" translated a few times? Well this scent is a reminder that the big bad wolf huffed and puffed three times to blow the little pigs's houses down. This product is best a reminder that the wolf surely had bad breath.
    LOL

    When I first tried ML I too was a huge critic.
    Why on earth would I buy this when fragrances like Azzaro PH offered an anise hit and were blatantly ferocious?
    I was so wrong.

    After a few wears it started to make sense.
    ML is a fragrance of deception - much like the fairy tale.
    ML is the fragrance you wear to hide your darker/wolfish intentions.
    It's sweet, warming and comforting - like the smell of a candy store.
    It is the fragrance to wear when breaking the resolve of the virginal princess.

    I too used to think that ML was misnamed.
    When you think about the fairy tale you realise that it is perfectly named.
    ML will not make you a wolf - if anything it may soften your wolfish desires.
    BUT, if you provide the wolf, ML will do it's part to provide the disguise... until you're ready to reveal your true intentions and eat...

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