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    Default Teaser #59

    As some of you may know, I started working on new Riddles about niche fragrances. The job was not that easy, because I am such a novice, and who am I trying to kid afterall? My whole life is still revolving around designer scents, and I love to give honors to unsung heroes.

    Here is to the unsung hero # 44.

    Some perfumes have imperial splendor
    Shining through their gavroche outfit.
    Big bold letters are here to render
    This gem's rampant and frivolous wit,

    Its alluring red pepper and apple
    Vagrant melon and rose de mai,
    And transparent insency chapel
    Of magnolias, dozing and sly.

    Wake them up by the warmth of your body,
    All aromas will mingle and play!
    They will cold quirky powder embody
    On a blazingly hot summer day.

    You know the rules about the clues between the lines and you know what I am going to write next -- Good luck and stay in good spirits!
    Last edited by Twolf; 27th August 2006 at 01:10 AM. Reason: #58 solved.

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    Welcome back with your wonderful poetry I for one missed it!!!

    I have only one guess and that one is probably way off too... Silver Rain by La Prairie... it has both red pepper and apple... so thus my guess... but also on my skin in the drydown a whisper of something... rose and magnolia
    "Of the five senses, the sense of smell is incontestably the one that best conveys a sense of immortality."

    Salvador Dali

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    I missed them too, but in this heat the rhyming cells of my brain just refuse to work!

    Very good guess, and I haven't tried Silver Rain (part of the reason being the fact it is out of my price range), but here I was thinking about alluring fruit and flowers and insency woods. Cheap too!

    Gavroche has to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twolf
    The job was not that easy, because I am such a novice, and who am I trying to kid afterall?
    Oh Twolf, don't be so modest! You're a truevecchia volpe when it comes to scents and riddles, and indeed a great pen!

    Btw, something that has to share with houses that made perfumes for emperors? Mmm.... Something with big bold letters on its package....
    Can it be Jardins de Bagatelle?

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    Default Re: #44

    Nope and yep, big, well BIGGER letters.

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    Jean-Paul Gaultier has always defined him as l'enfant terrible de la mode, a real Gavroche!
    And the only package with BIG LETTERS I've got in mind about him is FRAGILE!!! A really amazing "Vagrant" package! Prêt-à-envoyer!

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    Thanks for not giving up, Magnifiscent! Like they say quitters are not winners, or winners are not quitters.

    JPG Fragile is a very nice tuberose scent, this one is not, although the word "alluring" was used to show its resemblance to (what else?) Allure.

    BI
    GG
    ER
    letters.

    More clues: noses are from Givaudan, and the designer company belongs to LVMH. Designer company Creative Director at this fragrance's launch time was a creative personality working independently now with a few nice fragrances under his own label.

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    Can it be

    CEL
    INE


    pour Femme???
    Notes and package fits the description, but I'm still figuring out the connection with Gavroche...

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    You did it. AGAIN! Congratulations, Mag!

    Yes, pour Homme it is
    CEL
    INE, but pour Femme it is
    CE
    LI
    NE on the packaging and on the bottle with the notes of
    Top: Violet leaves, red pepper, black currant, bergamot, melon;
    Heart: magnolia, freesia, jasmin, iris, rose de mai;
    Base: sandal, cedar, musk, amber, vanilla, insence.

    Has anybody ever tried Googling this fragrance? You will be surprised how many references to Mrs.Celine Dion and her scents you will encounter. Even in MUA reviews! The two have nothing to do with each other, BTW. Celine de Celine is very similar to Allure EDP with even more interesting insence note, so if you are into this type of scents it may be for you. Michael Kors worked as Creative Director for Celine back in 2000 when it was launched.

    Gavroche reference is easy: the French company Celine started back in the 40s as a manufacturer of children's shoes, then they expanded to children's clothes and now to almost everything. As for their Fall 2006 collection, called "Ubiquitous" (I admit, I had to look it up and it means "omnipresent", "present everywhere at once"), their inspiration was "the mythical image of gavroche street urchins".

    "Imperial splendor" is about the regal colors of the packaging together with "shining through": white and gold.

    There is also Celine Oriental Summer, which I tried but was not that impressed, and Celine Magic -- a nice ambery-fruity enveloping scent.

    Thanks for staying tuned and reading. Please participate, even the wrong guess will "buy" you some clues. More Riddles tomorrow. Would you like another one in this same thread or in a separate one?

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    Nice job Twolf! Now it's all clear! I've always so much to learn here... hehe...
    Btw, same thread will be good I think.
    I was only wandering where are all our riddle maniacs friends like Scentophile or Concord or Ladylonestar... Maybe in vacation?

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    Congrats, Mag!!!

    (and you too, Woolfie, for yet another riddle keeping me occupied, so that I can avoid doing all the boring things I really should do instead. When you sit in front of a pc, you really can make it look like you`re working, he, he...)
    I have seen this bottle at our tiny perfumerie, but was convinced it WAS some of Celine Dion, since it stood placed next to the Dions. Will go have a sniff of it today!

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    Thank you. With kind permission of one Basenoter, here goes.

    Riddle # 45.

    Hearty peach and rose loukhum
    Chase away disparaging gloom,
    While black currant in this delightful scent
    Makes it sweet to a lesser extent.

    Easy-going fresia will soothe
    Giving strength to undaunted youth,
    With congenial cool bergamot
    Quarry likes it a lot.

    Some say "Sandal, vanilla could wait
    Till a later, say, November date".
    Can you name it? A CDG luck
    Won't get you stuck.

    Good luck and stay in good spirits!

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    Wink Re: Teaser #45.

    Mira Bai by Chopard? Honestly, haven`t got a clue, have to wait for Quarry to answer to my PM - HA!

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    Congrats to Magnifiscent for solving it and of course to our resident poet Woolfie for always making them so interesting and clever

    Now this new one has me quite intrigued.... and I want to say La Chase Aux Papillons because I know that Quarry loves and a little encouragement was the second line where you say: "Chase away disparaging gloom," so who knows

    Of course the notes don't really match up do they LOL
    "Of the five senses, the sense of smell is incontestably the one that best conveys a sense of immortality."

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    Default Re: Teaser #45.

    One of you got it, thanks. Will you guys care to elaborate on your guesses?

    Clue: How about CDG LUCk?
    Last edited by Twolf; 14th July 2006 at 01:36 AM.

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    Well, I have an explanation for "CDG LUCk" -- the nose of Chopard Mira Bai is Mark (also spellt Marc) Buxton, the one who worked productively on several CDG fragrances. At the same time the letters L.U.C. still appear on Chopard watches, first produced with Swiss precision under L. Ulysses Chopard, the company's founder.

    Mira Bai is a fresh oriental fragrance, so close to Casmir that it could be dubbed Casmir d'Ete . The poet, the singer and the worshipper Mira Bai, the real person surrounded by the long trail of Indian folklore, was fearless in her nature, simple in her habits and elegant in her demeanour, and so is Chopard Mira Bai (1998), the fragrance. It is not overly sweet, because of easy-breezy fresia and cool and restrained bergamot, although all other notes -- peach, rose, vanilla, sandal -- would suggest otherwise. Lesser known than, say, Casmir or Madness, and undeservingly so, IMO. Ask Quarry.

    Congratulations to Musse and please stay tuned for Riddle #46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twolf
    Well, I have an explanation for "CDG LUCk" -- the nose of Chopard Mira Bai is Mark (also spellt Marc) Buxton, the one who worked productively on several CDG fragrances. At the same time the letters L.U.C. still appear on Chopard watches, first produced with Swiss precision under L. Ulysses Chopard, the company's founder.
    Ingenious I was curious about that reference.

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    Default Re: Teaser #46.

    Wake up, lovelies! More detective work is awaiting you!

    Riddle #46.

    I tested this next fragrance last winter, to only swoon over and fall in love.

    This harmonious scent of adorable blooms:
    Noble cherry, authentic peony
    And majestic, idyllic jasmine perfumes
    From the land of Mount Fuji and Sony.

    And I suspect, its haters would come up with something like this (although, honestly, I do not know how one can not like it).

    This horrendous scent of appauling perfumes:
    Nasty cherry, annoying peony,
    And this monstrous, incisive jasmine that blooms
    In the land of Mount Fuji and Sony.

    Good luck and please stay in good spirits!
    Last edited by Twolf; 17th July 2006 at 11:26 PM.

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    So it really WAS Mira Bai! That one came to my mind first, after reading through your poem a couple of times. Pure intuition! Sorry for not being able to explain why I thought of this one, and for taking away part of the fun!
    When it comes to this new riddle, I have a vague feeling that you have mentioned this scent in one of your posts quite a while ago....?
    Guess I`ll have to read through all your posts - HA!

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    Very clever Musse Congrats! Pure intuition? even more impressive actually to me...

    As for the new riddle #46 I will go with Miya Shinma Sakura

    The refrence to Japan was a clue, (From the land of Mount Fuji and Sony), so I right away thought of the amazing perfumer Miya Shinma who is now teaching perfumery in Japan after having learned the great art herself in France...

    as well as cherry blossoms... which is how Sakura opens and sooooo delights me with them... Well, worth a try anyway as I SOOOO enjoy these riddles

    Thank you talented Wolfie
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    Default Re: Teaser #46.

    Nice try, Goddess_Dreams, but I was thinking about a different cherry blossom scent from Japan.

    Clue: adjectives/epithets used in the riddle, well, in both verses for #46.

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    Default Re: Teaser #46.

    I'm so glad your riddles are back, Twolf! Thanks!!! I've been missing them.
    Is it Hanami by Annayake?...
    Hanami means "watching the cherry trees in bloom", and is a traditional fest in spring. Night blooming jasmin and pink peony are added to recreate the smell of a cherry garden. I relly like this scent, it's one of the "4 seasons" collection by Annayake.
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    Default Re: Teaser #46.

    Way to go, Audrey! I was thinking about you and your quest for peony for longest time and this one seems to fit the bill.

    Solution:
    H -- harmonious/horrendous,
    A -- adorable/appauling,
    N -- noble/nasty,
    A -- authentic/annoying,
    M -- majestic/monstrous,
    I -- idyllic/incisive.

    So, Hanami it is. Out of all four of Annayake interpretations of Les Saisons -- Hanami, Natsumi, Tsukimi, Yukimi -- I like spring (Hanami) and winter (Yukimi) best. OsMoz does not list peony as a note, although it is definitely there, and Audrey pretty much described the fragrance itself!

    All Annayake fragrances come in 100ml bottles, and since they are EDT strength, it is self-explicable. The bottles are assymetrical and are supposed to evoke the images of the columns at the enterance of the temple of Jomon, the Japanese goddess of beauty, with whimsical carvings on the sides resembling staircase steps. Perhaps, another one to try for Goddess_Dreams? They are hard to find in this part of the world, but I saw them listed on a Canadian based website and of course, there is always bidding on eBay.

    Thanks for your input, folks, and please stay tuned for more!
    Last edited by Twolf; 19th July 2006 at 06:37 PM.

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    Compliments for the nice riddle Twolf, and naturally, congrats to Audrey for solving it brilliantly!

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    Smile Re: Teaser #46.

    Congrats, Audrey! I guess that was not just a guess...

    Hope for a new puzzling poem from you, soon, Twolf!

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    Default Re: Teaser #47.

    Thanks for reading, thinking and participating! Well, you've asked for it and this one is not going to be easy.

    Riddle # 47.

    Scents don't have to tell it all.
    At all.
    Her guileful smile, royal lilies and pond.
    Beau monde.
    Ripe citrus, woods, make it twigs --
    She digs!
    Quick rain's disdain brings pain,
    Her reign.

    Wild sensuality of cardamom.
    Aplomb.
    Green multitudes of leaves.
    Her peeves.
    Old and lush floral from France.
    Trance.
    This new one, sure, she would lurve.
    Not widespread.
    ________ _________.


    Good luck and please stay in good spirits!

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    Default Re: Teaser #47.

    Rancé d' Erje?

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    Default Re: Teaser #47.

    Thank you for your titanic effort, Tovah, but sorry, no.

    Clue: could also be "Quick rain's disdain in Spain". As all of us have probably figured out, this Riddle connects a particular relatively new scent with a life of a woman, like it was in Amazone and Niki de Saint Phalle riddles. And I am not good or knowledgeable at niche.

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    Default Re: Teaser #47.

    Playing myself again! Come on, it is not that difficult! Old lush floral from France is a favorite here, although very few can pronounce its name. The woman was mentioned in one of the posts by Magnifiscent last week on the Men's forum.

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    So after scanning Magnifiscents posts (perhaps not very sportsmanlike of me, but we need to get somewhere ) I am guessing that the old lush floral is Anais Anais, and the woman then of course Anais Nin? Her father was from Spain... and "the secret of joy is the mastery of pain" <---- her reign?
    But I can´t find the connections to a newer and non-widespread scent that has to do with her...

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