Code of Conduct
Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1
    Morning Star

    Astaroth's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    West Los Angeles
    Posts
    2,016

    Question Have you considered just mixing it up yourself?

    I have recently been testing some of the Jo Malone fragrances, which usually only have a couple of prominent accords, and are often sold with the intention of layering. I've also been trying some of the Marc Jacobs Splash fragrances, which each really have only a single prominent note.

    It occurred to me that maybe if I am willing to buy any of these, maybe I should just buy some essential oils and make my own fragrances. Have any of you who have previously been in the habit of buying "off the rack" decided to (partially or completely) jump over to the other side of the fence and make your fragrances yourself?

    I'm posting this here instead of in the Fragrance DIY group, since I already know the folks over there are at least thinking about it, if not actually doing it.

  2. #2

    TaoLady's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Coastal South Carolina
    Posts
    6,026

    Default Re: Have you considered just mixing it up yourself?

    Nope. Last time I decided to take up an art I quit my job and devoted all my time and money to learning and looking and making art. After five years I had begun to get the hang of the basics and had to quit.

    At this stage of my life I am content to let the masters do the creating and limit my tinkering to "collaging" (rather than layering - cuz I don't do fumes on top of fumes).

    I will be interested to see who shows up here to answer your - um - demonic query!!!
    "The world is ruled by letting things take their course. It cannot be ruled by interfering." Lao Tze

  3. #3
    Morning Star

    Astaroth's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    West Los Angeles
    Posts
    2,016

    Default Re: Have you considered just mixing it up yourself?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taolady View Post
    I will be interested to see who shows up here to answer your - um - demonic query!!!
    Ahhhh ... I remember you. Continue to enjoy all your sensory pleasures. I'm saving you a seat down here in the Ninth Circle!

  4. #4
    Lean in closer, dear
    Quarry's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    8,041
    Blog Entries
    4

    Default Re: Have you considered just mixing it up yourself?

    Hi, Astaroth!

    I've dug my own pond, shingled my own house, cut my own hair, and am seriously considering paving my own asphalt-alternative driveway, but I would not begin to think about stirring up my own fragrances.

    Just think about all the combinations possible and what experts have tried over their lifetimes. Think of the investment in ingredients--if you could even get the ones you needed. If one has an exceptional nose and plenty of time, adequate funding and a real passion, I wouldn't blame a person for wanting to explore the mysteries of scent. But me? Uh-uh.
    In a world where 6 million people are added each month, every landscape matters.

  5. #5

    Default Re: Have you considered just mixing it up yourself?

    I used to do it also, but it was costly. And I had to eat my mistakes!

  6. #6
    Moderator

    Redneck Perfumisto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Spiritually, Kansas
    Posts
    13,296
    Blog Entries
    37

    Default Re: Have you considered just mixing it up yourself?

    Just what little I've done in the Notes Identification Project has showed me that:

    (1) Good perfumery is hard as hell. I'm a scientist who can teach myself almost anything, and can create a mental representation of how to build and shift components of a fragrance. Yet, I doubt that I have what it would take to be a "real" perfumer. Not with the time I have left in life, even assuming that my current life simply vanished and I could go back to perfumery school.

    (2) I will probably continue to mix and tinker, but only in the same sense as somebody who has a wood shop at home. It's like making a cutting board - not an ornate bedroom suite. I'm not going into the business - no way. I did enjoy making my mediocre knock-off of Terre d'Hermès. But I warn you - I don't enjoy the knock-off nearly as much as the real McCoy. I only enjoyed the challenge of making it.

    (3) Never quit your day job.
    * * * *

  7. #7
    Morning Star

    Astaroth's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    West Los Angeles
    Posts
    2,016

    Default Re: Have you considered just mixing it up yourself?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    Just what little I've done in the Notes Identification Project has showed me that:

    (1) Good perfumery is hard as hell. I'm a scientist who can teach myself almost anything, and can create a mental representation of how to build and shift components of a fragrance. Yet, I doubt that I have what it would take to be a "real" perfumer.
    Thanks for the response. I doubt that I could be a real perfumer either, but I was just wondering about making simple fragrances that have a single prominent accord, like the Jo Malone and Marc Jacobs examples I gave.

    But, now that you mention it, could you elaborate a little more deeply about the difficulty you experienced in trying to make fragrances? I used to also be a scientist (chemist, actually), and it would seem that this sort of endeavor would be right up our alleys.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    (3) Never quit your day job.
    Never happen. I would never jeopardize my ability to buy smelly liquids (fragrances ... and gasoline).
    Last edited by Astaroth; 20th July 2008 at 12:20 PM.

  8. #8

    Default Re: Have you considered just mixing it up yourself?

    Please read the Note Identification Thread. That is just what a bunch of us did. We bought our own ingredients, smelled and discussed all of them, and then embarked upon our own experiments. It was worthwhile, and yes, I would wear a few of my own creations.

  9. #9

    Default Re: Have you considered just mixing it up yourself?

    Mmmmmm. It's hard as hell and more than a little crazy to just wake up one day and think: "You know what, I will take this seriously". That goes for anything unconventional or difficult to achieve.

    I don't know if I'd recommend "just mixing it up yourself" as a hobby; not beyond aromatherapy and natural perfume oil mixes anyway. That's as good a hobby as fine art and the raw materials aren't as difficult to obtain.

    But to go for the whole shebang and try to learn the art, craft and science of perfumery - that's one hell of a task.

    I have been on the journey for years, first through retail sales as a teenager, then through various twists and turns as a training manager for a fragrance distributor, then (reaching a point where I just had to find out the rest and satisfy my obsession) - purchasing my first raw materials and equipment 3 years ago.

    Now, I guess I am on the first step up towards becoming an actual perfumer. I am studying chemistry, will take a formal perfume diploma course next year, work for a company that does all of its fragrance and perfume formulation in-house and I've been accepted as a junior member to the product/perfume team...and the first product for which I've done some of the perfume work on is being launched worldwide this month. I am still pinching myself.

    Yet, I occasionally feel a little pang of despair - I may very well have found my calling too late (36 now), may not have been lucky enough to be born into the right family background and might never learn enough about perfume and its creation.

    The thing is (and this is the "crazy" part I was talking about right at the beginning) I'm just ignoring all that and will carry on, obsessing and working and studying and tinkering away! Any sensible person would say "as IF you have a chance!".


Similar Threads

  1. What would be considered "Synthetic" cologne
    By The Squire in forum Just Starting Out
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 5th June 2010, 12:32 AM
  2. Have you considered just mixing it up yourself?
    By Astaroth in forum Male Fragrance Discussion
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 18th July 2008, 11:34 PM
  3. Mixture of two fragrances, anybody got good results?
    By afraafra in forum Male Fragrance Discussion
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 2nd June 2008, 03:19 PM
  4. Mixing Perfume
    By NicoleStar in forum Female Fragrance Discussion
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 10th October 2006, 03:30 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  



Loving perfume on the Internet since 2000