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  • Vintage Tabarome

    36 29.27%
  • Quorum

    22 17.89%
  • Yatagan

    37 30.08%
  • MPG's Route du Vetiver

    8 6.50%
  • Bay Rum (any, preferably in large doses)

    7 5.69%
  • Tuscany

    10 8.13%
  • Salvador Dali Pour Homme

    10 8.13%
  • Blenhein Bouquet

    5 4.07%
  • SMN's Peau d' Espagne

    4 3.25%
  • Jacomo de Jacomo

    11 8.94%
  • Francesco Smalto

    3 2.44%
  • OTHER

    20 16.26%
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    Cool Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    Anti-frags?

    By that I mean Men's fragrances that in an attempt, successful or otherwise, to be truly masculine have crossed the border into Powerhouse Stinkerland.

    Banzai !!

    Some of these, like Vintage Tabarome, are special favorites of mine as they transform and weave their spell. Others like Quorum are--um, not for me.

    I have deliberately left out any which, no matter how macho, I thought my present or ex gf's would have liked upon first sniff.

    Thus no Antaeus, Roma, Egoiste, or Givenchy Gentleman as they're unlikely likely to elicit a female:

    " UGGH! WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? "
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    Ditto most Orientals.

    So, fellow BN's, of the ones listed which are YOUR favorites?
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    Quorom- mucho macho created by a Spaniard named Puig.
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    Default Re: Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    I might need some help remembering candidates, but Quorum is still something I like, and there's an Oscar de la Renta that is macho-into-powerhose-stinkola for sure, but I can't remember which exactly, and I don't want to count Diptyque's L'Autre because it isn't even trying to be macho (God love it, it's unisex!). Salvador Dali Pour Homme might be one, Creed's Cuir de Russie and Royal English Leather might be two more, and, someone help me out here, there's a big musk bomb out there besides MKK--some 70s musk that gave rise to the hairy chest mockery--that's got to be up here too.
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    Cool Re: Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    DustB: I can't believe I missed Muscs Kublai Khan !

    It is sweet but, you're right. It's sweet in an over the top insane hairy chested--well, suffice it to say that I've gotten both the Ugh! AND the great compliments on it. However, the most memorable remark was made by a lesbian film director who observed, unkindly loud: " It smells like a gay man's ass**** "

    I'll have to take her word on it, but then again; How would she know?

    So glad I put up the " Other " button.

    Remember folks we're looking for your favorites. The ones you wear and enjoy!

    May The Force, Brut and Drakkar Noir be with you,

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    I recently acquired a bottle of Uomo by Fendi (it was on sale for $20CAN) and I love it! It's so uber macho and - I don't know - hairy chested gorilla man RAWR! It's awesome

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    Default Re: Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario Justiniani
    ...Remember folks we're looking for your favorites. The ones you wear and enjoy!...
    Sorry, I voted for Yatagan -- I believe it to be the mucho macho maestro of the ones listed!

    ...But for reasons of terribly negative childhood scent-association -- I don't care for it!

    Yatagan starts off like celery salt -then- goes straight into the exact aroma of a hideous children's laxative known as Fletcher's Castoria...



    ...AFAIK this vile concoction has been in continuous production since 1868 -- striking fear into the hearts of children for almost 140 years!! It was huge in the late '40's and early '50's! I still cringe at the thought of my grandmother running after me with a tablespoon in one hand and the Castoria bottle in the other yelling "Was that a sniffle? You need a good physic, sonny!"

    (--Never use the words good and physic in the same sentence again!--)

    Anyway, Yatagan gets my macho award here -- but Pasa-muh-dena on wearing that stuff!

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    Default Re: Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    Where are all the big '80s monsters of testosterone? Kouros, Fendi Uomo, Trussardi Uomo, Antaeus, Nobile, Drakkar Noir, and the like? Or those discorrific stinkers like Givenchy Gentleman, Aramis, or YSL pour Homme?

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    Default Re: Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    Doesn't Brut pretty much say it all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baald
    Doesn't Brut pretty much say it all?

    baald
    I find Brut way to powdery to be considered macho.

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    PUIG'S AGUA BRAVA-CHHHH *choke*


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    Default Re: Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezhno
    Sorry, I voted for Yatagan -- I believe it to be the mucho macho maestro of the ones listed!

    ...But for reasons of terribly negative childhood scent-association -- I don't care for it!

    Yatagan starts off like celery salt -then- goes straight into the exact aroma of a hideous children's laxative known as Fletcher's Castoria...

    Anyway, Yatagan gets my macho award here -- but Pasa-muh-dena on wearing that stuff!
    Couldn't disagree with you more. Yatagan is an amazing fragrance. Sounds as if you did some sniffing but never got beyond that. The celery association only hangs around for the first few times you wear it. Like many, it is one that must be worn over time to understand. It is relatively masculine but there are women who wear it, many in France, even some in the U.S. I've worn it off and on for years. I don't find it anything like the character that is often portrayed on Basenotes. For what it's worth, Luca Turin noted that he thought Yatagan was the best in its class. He included Antaeus, Bel Ami and others in that category. He also wrote that it was a must try for both men and women.

    Regarding Vintage Tabarome, I love it but my girlfriend perceives it as "powdery" and not overtly masculine. There are women who wear Vintage Tabarome as well.

    I wore Parfum d'Habit by Maitre Parfumeur et Gantier yesterday. I consider it pretty macho.
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    Default Re: Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    I think Pluran is right about vintage Tabarome--not over-the-top enough. Not something anyone will ask "What in the world is that?" after smelling. I clicked a vote for it, but now wish I hadn't. Sorry to be a spoiler.
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    About the celery or celery salt references to Yatagan, I can't really understand what the objection is. Say it smells like celery--why is that considered an automatic negative? Wearing Yatagan doesn't make me think of celery or celery salt, but if it did, would that mean the fragrance was less macho than if it had a lumberjackesque wood note right in that spot instead? I think cucumber gets the same automatic bad rap--celery and cucumber must be wussy vegetables so they don't properly reflect the cujones or something.
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    Default Re: Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    Quote Originally Posted by DustB
    About the celery or celery salt references to Yatagan, I can't really understand what the objection is. Say it smells like celery--why is that considered an automatic negative? Wearing Yatagan doesn't make me think of celery or celery salt, but if it did, would that mean the fragrance was less macho than if it had a lumberjackesque wood note right in that spot instead? I think cucumber gets the same automatic bad rap--celery and cucumber must be wussy vegetables so they don't properly reflect the cujones or something.
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    Is the celery note in Yatagan as pronounced as in Grain De Plaisir by MPG? If so, then yikes !
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    Quote Originally Posted by zztopp
    Is the celery note in Yatagan as pronounced as in Grain De Plaisir by MPG? If so, then yikes !
    Heck, I don't know. Sounds like you'll need to sniff them to find out for sure, Zz, but I know I love Yatagan but find Grain de Plaisir dull beyond belief. For me, it would benefit GdP to have some of the ass kickin' somethin somethin that Yatagan has.

    What is it about celery that strikes fear in the hearts of men? Wearing Yatagan hasn't made me into a eunuch yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB
    Heck, I don't know. Sounds like you'll need to sniff them to find out for sure, Zz, but I know I love Yatagan but find Grain de Plaisir dull beyond belief. For me, it would benefit GdP to have some of the ass kickin' somethin somethin that Yatagan has.

    What is it about celery that strikes fear in the hearts of men? Wearing Yatagan hasn't made me into a eunuch yet.
    --Chris
    I think it has to do with the fact that some smells just dont translate into good "wearable" scents for most of the population. This is the same way that the general population would not want to drink beetroot, spinach or turnip juice because it just doesnt taste "right".
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    Default Re: Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    Aramis

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    When I think of "macho" for a guy, only one thing comes to mind ... leather. So I personally consider Helmut Lang Cuiron and DK Men (Fuel) to be uber-macho. Although ...

    I was at the checout line at the local A&P here recently, and the cashier right in back of me (across from the cashier checking me out ) said "Wow, that smells great! That's a MAN'S cologne ... you smell like a MAN!". She must have said "man" about ten times. It was Cartier Santos Eau de Sport. And that was just a dab on the back of my hand I was sampling.

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    Well said, machos smell like leather. So, Or Black, Knize ten, and so on...

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    Default Re: Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    Quote Originally Posted by zztopp
    Is the celery note in Yatagan as pronounced as in Grain De Plaisir by MPG? If so, then yikes !
    the so-called celery note isn't celery at all. the combination of pine needles, artemisia, wormwood, etc create the resemblance of such a note, but this is only noticeable for a short time. once i had worn yatagan off and on for a few weeks i suddenly stopped associating this note with celery altogether. i love it, and i definitely don't like the smell of celery in a fragrance. i'm always surprised at the amount of people who sniff the topnotes of a fragrance, wear it two or three times, and declare with certainty that this is the way it is. some fragrances take many months to understand. the olfactory system is highly complex.

    yatagan also generates a lot of positive comments from women. it's unquestionably masculine, rugged and quite sophisticated.
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    Default Re: Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    LV Vetiver, which smells like you've rolled yourself up with jungle herbs; and then, of course, Havana. Also, Arden Sandalwood.
    The case of Vintage Tabarome is interesting: I regularly see it cited as babes-repellent, mucho-UGGHH, and I see it's top of the poll so far. And yet, I have a different experience: besides the wonderful burning cigar smoke, I smell precious amber and something fresher/sparkling (reminds me of pomegranade), so I never understood the UUGGHHH comments. To me, it's a fairly refined (although clearly masculine) and formal fragrance and actually a compliment-getter.
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    Default Re: Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    Oh, and I was forgetting a very powerful outsider, Bursch by Acqua di Biella, a wonderful powerful earthy concoction that lasts for ages.

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    Had to go with Creeds Vintage Tabarome...I wouldn't say this is a fragrance in stinkerland, I will say that there is a right time and a not so right time to wear this scent. IMHO of course.
    I wear this when it is cold outside...I mean real cold...this just reminds me of a scent that should be worn in the winter time...That's me...if you can pull this off on the beach when it is 90 in the shade...that's great...I'll save mine for the winter.
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    Here's another vote for Yatagan. And I love it.
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    Salvador Dali is pure evil in a bottle.

    This would be Satan's fragrance.

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    Surely Azzarro PH deserves a big mention here.

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    I don't know why so many find in Yatagan a prominent celery note; I don't detect celery at all. Maybe the celery where I live is different from the one in the US.

    When, at different times and without one knowing what the other said, I asked my mother and my sister to smell Yatagan both of them told me that it smells like good incense; and they're right, it's very similar to the incense that is used here in the orthodox churches, although not as smoky and dark.
    Last edited by Luca; 2nd October 2006 at 01:35 PM.

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    As far as macho scents that I actually like, Vintage Tab, Yatagan, RdV, and Tuscany got my vote. I sometimes get a celery-like vibe from Yatagan, other times something like mustard. Like many scents, I have to be in the right mood to fully enjoy it.

    Quorum and P'Eau de Espagne would get my vote for stinkers I do not care for. Some seem to say that SMN's PdE has a tabasco sauce accord to it, I think it's actually mace, the same as in their Marescialla (which I cannot see being a women's frag, despite its original intent). It's a horrid note for a frag. Never in its drydown does the bitter, burning sensation seem to disappear. IMO, it amounts to a frag best named "Eau de Unsuccessful Burglar."

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    Default Re: Who is more macho? The anti-frags

    Quote Originally Posted by Luca30
    I don't know why so many find in Yatagan a prominent celery note; I don't detect celery at all. Maybe the celery where I live is different from the one in the US.

    When, at different times and without one knowing what the other said, I asked my mother and my sister to smell Yatagan both of them told me that it smells like good incense; and they're right, it's very similar to the incense that is used here in the orthodox churches, although not as smoky and dark.
    Some truly independent noses in old-new Europe! I am glad to see my own observations confirmed in every part. I just wish this jewel had more lasting power! My MACHO is another one, though!
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    CHAZ
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    there!
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