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    Angry 2 guys seriously dissing Visit @ TJ Maxx

    I was just at TJ Maxx checking the fragrance selection, as I usually do once a week. There were 2 gay guys (and I only say that because they were absolutely gay...pink shirts, deep lisps, the whole nine yards) smelling all of the tester bottles and giving shallow commentary on them.

    One of them smelled Azzaro Visit and couldn't express enough to his friend how terrible it was. They kept smelling it and going "Oh, god! Its sooooo bad!" and "you weren't kidding when you said this was awful!"

    It was almost like they knew Visit was one of my favorites as they continued on for a full minute at least about how bad it was.

    I don't really have any relevant point, other than the fact that I couldn't believe how bad they were dissing it, considering the following Visit has here on Basenotes. Unlike the stereotype perpetuated by gays and non-gays alike, these guys did seem to have bad taste in general. They were "prissed" and primped up, but seemed overall sloppy. I just cant let people talk trash about my favs without some retaliation!!!
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    Default Re: 2 guys seriously dissing Visit @ TJ Maxx

    It was a good fellow named PigeonMurderer who said "Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one."

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    I would think that most people that grew up in the ADG era would feel that anything complex and woody (especially smelled out of a bottle) is bad.

    It's like a person that grew up on McDonalds trying sushi for the first time. Well, maybe that analogy is a little exagerated, but you get my point.

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    Default Re: 2 guys seriously dissing Visit @ TJ Maxx

    No I get the sushi analogy! and btw, I've recently discovered sushi for myself, even had some today. Good stuff once you get used to it!

    I know everyone has their own opinion, and we've been over that concept again and again...

    I'm pretty hard to please when it comes to wood scents. Visit broke me in to woods in fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrax
    It was a good fellow named PigeonMurderer who said "Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one."
    Hey, my grandmother always says that! And damnit. I've been waiting for the right time to bust that one out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by robyogi
    Hey, my grandmother always says that! And damnit. I've been waiting for the right time to bust that one out...
    Sorry I spoiled that moment for you.

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    Default Re: 2 guys seriously dissing Visit @ TJ Maxx

    Thanks for the imagery and the laughs it initiated. The moment must've been priceless to witness!

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    Default Re: 2 guys seriously dissing Visit @ TJ Maxx

    "Tester" bottles as TJM? I have never seen them.

    I thought unscrupulous shoppers just tore open the packaging to sample the actual fragrances on sale. I especially love when they open one package, smell the fragrance from that box, then buy the sealed one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docluv45
    "Tester" bottles as TJM? I have never seen them.

    I thought unscrupulous shoppers just tore open the packaging to sample the actual fragrances on sale. I especially love when they open one package, smell the fragrance from that box, then buy the sealed one.
    You know I've witnessed that again and again at our Canadian equivalent of TJ Maxx... It drives me nuts!
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    Default Re: 2 guys seriously dissing Visit @ TJ Maxx

    Whats the Canadian equivalent?

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    Oh man I can just see those two now. Great story

    However, no support from me on the Visit. It reminds me too much of the lofty, spread of old spice. I need a sharp woodiness like Gucci ph. And, the bottle turns me off.

    Just me 2 cents. Had to play DA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LushLife
    Whats the Canadian equivalent?
    Winners ?

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    Azzaro Visit is great. I just can't get enough of it. :wave:
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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectfeet
    I don't really have any relevant point,
    At least you admit it. Well...you don't really say WHY they thought it was so bad but I will say that I do agree with them. Personally I think it is one of the lesser wood fragrances out there. No subtlety and a bit chaotic if you ask me. That opinion may put me in the minority here but I'm used to it. Go ahead and trash me too if you want. When you do, please note that I do not have a lisp but I do own a pink shirt. Its sort of a rule.

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    Default Re: 2 guys seriously dissing Visit @ TJ Maxx

    Perfectfeet, what does the sexuality of the men really have to do w/ anything? If they had been macho bikers dissing Visit, would you still have been upset? Or what if the "obviously" gay guys happened to be dissing a scent that you happened to despise as well? How would that change the tone of your post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectfeet
    Visit broke me in to woods in fact.
    Hey now.
    Are you not entertained??? Is this not why you are here??

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    Quote Originally Posted by CologneJunkie
    Perfectfeet, what does the sexuality of the men really have to do w/ anything? If they had been macho bikers dissing Visit, would you still have been upset? Or what if the "obviously" gay guys happened to be dissing a scent that you happened to dispise as well? How would that change the tone of your post?
    Very interesting point. I'm willing to bet there may have been different thoughts in that situation.

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    You should buy twice as much Visit it now just to piss them off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CologneJunkie
    Perfectfeet, what does the sexuality of the men really have to do w/ anything? If they had been macho bikers dissing Visit, would you still have been upset? Or what if the "obviously" gay guys happened to be dissing a scent that you happened to despise as well? How would that change the tone of your post?
    I think the point was that gay men are stereotyped as having "good taste" in scents/clothes/whatever. So...either they have bad taste or we have bad taste. Or sexuality has nothing to do with taste. Or taste is arbitrary and pointless. Hm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveJazz
    I think the point was that gay men are stereotyped as having "good taste" in scents/clothes/whatever. So...either they have bad taste or we have bad taste. Or sexuality has nothing to do with taste. Or taste is arbitrary and pointless. Hm.
    I think that's exactly the point... but more importantly, it's always surprised me the number of negative reactions Visit (and for that matter its close cousin Gucci Rush) gets. I've always thought them both perfectly charming. In fact when Visit was first released I thought it was one of the most original things I'd encountered (I hadn't yet tried the previously released Rush; they're very similar but subtly different), and only held off buying it because I thought that it would be very soon that I'd be coming across it in every damn club/bar etc... But I don't think I've ever encountered it outside the fragrance testing area at the department store.

    Incidentally, I heard Gucci Rush has been discontinued...

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    Default Re: 2 guys seriously dissing Visit @ TJ Maxx

    Quote Originally Posted by perfectfeet
    I was just at TJ Maxx checking the fragrance selection, as I usually do once a week. There were 2 gay guys (and I only say that because they were absolutely gay...pink shirts, deep lisps, the whole nine yards) smelling all of the tester bottles and giving shallow commentary on them....I just cant let people talk trash about my favs without some retaliation!!!
    Is this to be read as retaliation? Thanks for subjecting yourself to such open insight. I would have been interested in what their favorites were. I always ask guys when I get that chance. You may have missed the best part. All of Azzarro is soso for me, but I am on my second pair of pink socks this summer.
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    As a TJ Maxx employee (a good college job, plus I get first dibs at the scents!), I can assure you there are no "testers." We just get sent a bunch of stuff in a box, with no idea what's in it. People somehow get the idea that it's ok to just open up packages and spray stuff (I guess they think since things are inexpensive there that it must be somehow ok compared to a department store). As mentioned above, people just love to open up a package, try it, and buy one that's sealed. I guess I'll just never understand people.

    Visit was one of the first frags I bought at TJ, and is one of my favorites. I love the woods, but it's not overpowering like Gucci PH tends to be. Some days I like to put on a spray or two of Bvlgari Black before applying Visit... the vanilla and woods work really well together.

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    You shouldn't think you can justify stereotypes--even those you perceive as perpetuated by gays and non-gays alike--by listing all the ways someone seems to you to fit the elements of the stereotype. And, as noted, why is it relevant at all to your post that you concluded they were gay? If they had been black, would you have mentioned that? Would you have mentioned it and then added how they fulfilled "the whole nine yards" of some stereotype? Doubtful.

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    Default Re: 2 guys seriously dissing Visit @ TJ Maxx

    What Tuner_Watson said.
    Quote Originally Posted by perfectfeet
    I was just at TJ Maxx checking the fragrance selection, as I usually do once a week. There were 2 gay guys (and I only say that because they were absolutely gay...pink shirts, deep lisps, the whole nine yards) smelling all of the tester bottles and giving shallow commentary on them.
    I don't see the point of including the fact that they were gay, given your reason for mentioning it.

    I couldn't care less about what others (especially strangers!!) think of the fragrances I wear. Trash away or give praise, it's all the same to me, and I'm not paying any mind either way. If I love it, I wear it, period.

    BTW, I know quite a few men who wear pink shirts - one even has a lisp (really more like a sibilant "S" - and most of them are straight.
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    Well I could see why they would hate it. It is a very manly scent and it probaly won't fit their lifestyle and personality if they were gay. I am one who loves Azzaro Visit and can't wait till it is the dead cold on winter so it can work it's magic

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    By describing them, I was just trying to paint a picture for you. I would have done the same if they were black, straight, indian, children, whatever. If they were from India and wearing turbans, I would have told you. If they were white trash from down the street, I would have described their wife-beaters and flip flops.

    And by the whole nine yards, I mean that they were very effeminate in their entire demeanor - thereby fitting into the stereotype that most people put on someone when they think "gay". If this weren't true, we wouldn't have shows like Queer Eye for the straight guy - which obviously does a great job perpetuating society's stereotype of gays. I do not perpetuate this notion, but I'd be wrong to deny its existence. I've said it before and I'll say it again - I have absolutely nothing against gay people; I don't even make fun of them. These guys were gay and they wanted the world to know. Thats all there is to it.

    Gayness is not so incredibly taboo that we cant even talk about it or refer to someone as gay. I wanted you to "hear" the tone of their voices as they ridiculed. I wanted you to imagine their pink polo shirts - which btw is not an indicator of gayness in my eyes; hell I'm wearing pink socks right now. I feel about just as rare in society (having a foot fetish) as gay people. There is MILES more gay culture than there is "foot fetish" culture, so I think I might feel like an outcast even more so! I'm totally fine with this btw. My point - Why would I go making fun of anyone because of a sexual preference when mine is probably much weirder (in my mind anyway!). And if someone cracks a joke at me or calls me a foot freak, I'm not going to have a pride march over it - hell I usually think it's funny.


    These guys had bad taste in general - and it was obvious. From their over-emphasized femininity to their brief and ignorant taste in fragrance.


    And yeah they were opening boxes and testing stuff - but it's commonplace around here I guess. When most of the boxes are already open, it's kind of a green light to open more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingMist
    Well I could see why they would hate it. It is a very manly scent and it probaly won't fit their lifestyle and personality if they were gay. I am one who loves Azzaro Visit and can't wait till it is the dead cold on winter so it can work it's magic

    I am brand new here, so I am not sure if you were joking or not. If not, your post is seriously offensive. Being gay does not preclude manliness in any way. I know plenty of ultra-fey gay guys as well as many hyper-masculine ones. Sitting around posting on a fragrance website does not seem particularly manly to me--so maybe a "manly" fragrance like Visit will help to counteract that. Shouldn't we all be beyond these silly gender and sexuality stereotypes--especially when it comes to fragrance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingMist
    Well I could see why they would hate it. It is a very manly scent and it probaly won't fit their lifestyle and personality if they were gay. I am one who loves Azzaro Visit and can't wait till it is the dead cold on winter so it can work it's magic
    Apparently it's hard to wear in gay clubs?
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    Default Re: 2 guys seriously dissing Visit @ TJ Maxx

    I would no more care about what some dumb queen thought about the smell of cologne smelled straight from the bottle than I would what he thought of good red wine glugged straight from the bottle.

    This dumb queen has been around long enough to know that you have to smell the juice on your skin to make any judgement, just as you have to pour the wine out to see what it's really going to taste like.

    As for being "manly", KingMist, there are entire neighborhoods devoted to Gays who are way too "manly" to ever be caught dead wearing something as "femme" as cologne. Even a "manly" one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porcepic
    I am brand new here, so I am not sure if you were joking or not. If not, your post is seriously offensive. Being gay does not preclude manliness in any way. I know plenty of ultra-fey gay guys as well as many hyper-masculine ones. Sitting around posting on a fragrance website does not seem particularly manly to me--so maybe a "manly" fragrance like Visit will help to counteract that. Shouldn't we all be beyond these silly gender and sexuality stereotypes--especially when it comes to fragrance?
    Very well said, and welcome to Basenotes, Porcepic.
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