I'm curious to know what the classic American scent is. If you were to ask me what was typically English, then fragrances from Floris, the defunct Crown Perfumery, Geo F Trumper, Penhaligon's, Yardley, DR Harris etc. would spring to mind.
I'm under the impression that fragrances from Caswell Massey (such as Tricorn, No.6, Jockey & the vintage Greenbriar) represent the true classic American smell, tell me it isn't so?
Also, what notes are predominant in the classic American scent?
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Strong powerhouse scents I always considered a bit American. Not exactly sophisticated, but not bad either. Polo, Red for Men and Chaps come to mind. Old fashion scents like Old Spice and Brut are the classics.
They're not really amazing to wear. Most of the buying American public tend to wear European fragrances for the most part. Oh well...
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Jockey Club by Caswell Massey -- been around since the 1830's, if I remember correctly. Great juice, too!
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I'm going with the original Polo.
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sorry, but jockey-club is as british as it can be! in the 19th century really EVERY english perfumer or hair-dresser made his own!
ok, it's rather a female scent, but i always found giorgio very american, don't know exactly why...
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I think there is too much cultural diversity to associate any scent with any country in its entirety in today's world.
five names came to my mind:
Old Spice (1937)
Grey Flannel (1976)
I think it's difficult to decide which one of these was most influential to male perfumery. They all were.
Aside from the cheap ones like Old Spice which everyone recognizes, I'd probably say Polo Green.
It's probably the most recognizeable bottle. Even people who have never worn cologne in their life will most likely be able to picture what a bottle of Ralph Lauren's Polo looks like.
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My Dad carried it in his small grocery store/fish market back in the 50s. Yes, I cleaned fish as a high school job...UGH!!!
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Florida Water (1810?)
....both of these are kinda nasty to me.
Hoyt's Cologne (1868).
All of these were or still are being for mojomagic, voodoo, etc....to bring luck.
Hoyt's was especially used for gambling and the gambler would douse themselves with it to bring good luck.
I wore Hoyt's for a long time in the late '90s, but not for luck or that other stuff. I wore it because I loved the way it smelled. Anyway, it was available at a local variety store. They sold individual bottles, and by the case. I loved it! It was cheaper than 4711 and lasted longer. It seemed to have alot of patchouli in it, or some resin. In any case, it had a resinous, woody, warm drydown to it.
I can't find Hoyt's locally anymore. The var. store closed, but Walmart carried it briefly.
I would love to find some. I had not a whiff of it in along time.
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I agree. I think I'm the only guy in my family that has never owned or worn it at some time.Originally Posted by acehimself
My God, that's exactly what I was going to say.Originally Posted by baald
Classic: Old Spice
Modern: Gendarme V. I find it optimistic which I associate with the USA.
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I had a pretty damn good laugh out of that one!Originally Posted by baald
I'd have to say Old Spice.
Using the decades-old artery infusion technique ...Originally Posted by baald
Tommy no doubt. CK One is close contender
Thanks for your replies so far, so it seems that "Old Spice" is the definitive classic American scent?
Rolling on the floor here. I can just see Ronald McDonald and Olivier Creed hitting it off.Originally Posted by zztopp
Considering the age of the classic Caswell Masseys these, like the literature of the time, would have been attempts at perfectly imitating European fragrances, just as most of the writing, art, etc. being produced in the Early Republic. Those scents mentioned in the context of magic, charms would represent the birth of a genuine American culture from various European, African and Native American wellsprings. Old Spice is the prime representative of Middletown, the emergence of modern (white) middle class, mass-production & mass consumption America. Lauren is the cultural gauntlet thrown at Europe's feet, just like California wine challenged Bordeaux in the 1970s. Gendarme is the essence of Baudrillard's America - a simulacrum of perfume, to the European nose.
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here, e.g.:Originally Posted by dirk
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Actually it's a very realistic depiction of what's going on at our house right now all the time
Old Spice, the Norman Rockwell of the perfume world.
Tommy also struck me as quite Americana, although -post 2000's America..
Then again what do I know?..I am a Foreigner
Old spice, for sure.
I agree with the original green Polo.
My choice as the quintessential american fragrance would be Ralph Lauren Safari, to me it just represents the essence of the outdoorsy rugged dynamic yet laidback (if I am making sense) american character.
For some reason in my life I have encountered more brits wearing Old Spice than americans...
You know, I think Tommy is a pretty good contender. Its notes were "inspired" by different scents from across America.
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If you are talking about scents for men, in my lifetime I'd say Old Spice. As far as what's most common now, various body sprays by Axe. Body sprays are one of the most unfortunate trends of the past 15 years. They do not smell pleasant when sprayed all over as most guys who use them do.
For me, it would be a close competition between: Old Spice, Grey Flannel, Halston Z14 and RL Polo Green.