Smells like neither of these to me. It's one of those scents that makes profoundly different impressions on me each time I try it. It's certainly florally, last time I tried it I found the pine to be the loudest note, backed up by the carnation and quite a soapy patchouli. An older fashioned (I don't mean that in a disparaging way) not so sweet floral-aromatic. (I've seen it described elsewhere as oriental, I don't get that at all).