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    Default if you are obsessed with getting muscs kublai khan

    just get Keihl's Musk! they are very very very very very similar

    and if anyone comes along and says "no they are completely different"?

    that person is full of tuberose.

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    I love Kiehl's Musk. I used to hate the in-your-face-floral-musk opening but the drydown is amaaazzzziinnngggg with rich, animal goodness. I wish I could remove the topnotes and just bathe (not literally) in the base.

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    aer you talking abou the oil? I don't get any florals in the edp or edt or whatever it is I got at marshall's today, the little $55 (at nordstrom) spray bottle. it's just like whoa, muscs kublai khan.
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    Default Re: if you are obsessed with getting muscs kublai khan

    Quote Originally Posted by supermarky
    just get Keihl's Musk! they are very very very very very similar...
    That would solve two problems for me, it's available from a local e-tailer, and 100ml for a little less even
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    Default Re: if you are obsessed with getting muscs kublai khan

    samples are on ebay with seller "fragrant fripperies" she aways sends freebees with her packages.

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    I hope this helps the wire tappers who are up at this un-godly hour also.
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    Thanks for the tip supermarky. I've been interested in MKK but Kheil's musc is much cheaper (also available in smaller quantities locally). I'll definitely check it out.
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    I've always had the sneaking suspicion that the two were similar (or if not similar, then the possibility that MKK was not the beast of lore it is made out to be).

    Every now and then someone would say that MKK was just 'a polite, unoffensive floral with a musky drydown.' No one even says that about Kouros, so I knew that MKK couldn't be that bad.

    I would still like to try it, but I'm glad that someone out there saved me some money (money that will probably still get spent on Lutens nonetheless).

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    Although they smell nothing alike, Kouros is really the oily, feral beast of lore that MKK is so often made out to be.
    I agree with Supermarky that Kiehl's Musk is a close match for MKK, and for far less the price.
    If you want urine-drenched masculinity dripping with sweat, pick Kouros. (Just apply with caution, then strap on your codpiece and go forth to conquer.)

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    Default Re: if you are obsessed with getting muscs kublai khan

    Sorry, I beg to differ. Kiehls is a lot more one-note than MKK. I like it, but when push came to shove, I got the Lutens (I have friends in the EU, so it wasn't that hard)

    IMHO, Kiehls is like two buck chuck and MKK is a fine Bordeaux. Nothing wrong with Trader Joe's finest, but if you can get a taste of the Bordeaux...

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    Default Re: if you are obsessed with getting muscs kublai khan

    Quote Originally Posted by supermarky
    just get Keihl's Musk! they are very very very very very similar

    and if anyone comes along and says "no they are completely different"?

    that person is full of tuberose.
    So do the two scents smell similar from top to bottom? Or does Kiehl's Musk only smell like the drydown of MKK? I'm curious because if the two have the same topnotes as well as basenotes, then that would be quite interesting.

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    I haven't smelt Kiehl's Musk yet but I'm really want to now so I can compare it side by side with my MKK. I have to say MKK is some really nasty dirty stuff that I don't really dare to wear out in public. I think once I was testing it at home and on short notice I had to rush outside for something, but even then it smelt very faint on my skin.

    It actually reminds me of these two middle eastern guys that were finishing the basement of my parents house a couple of years ago. These guys would work 12 hours sometimes and around dinner time my mom would invite them up to join us for dinner out of kindness. Well...after working 12 hours straight and then would also smoke a lot, they weren't the best smelling guys in the world, but I understood how hard they worked so I never complained. Funny how MKK reminds me of them now.

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    I have never really worn MKK long enough to get to the dry down, nor the keihl's. I really do not like either of them. I can only tell you that going on they seem absolultely the same to me.

    The packaging and the bottle are both way cooler than the lutens bell jar, I have to say.

    I think *maybe* a teeny bit of it might be good for layering... (beneath, not on top!) but I think more likely I should try to swap it for something of retail value of about $55 which is the price at nordstrom!

    ps Trader joe's is fine by me! I'm not a wine drinker, really, but a comparison of Starbuck's coffee with some of TJ's fanciest (the dark roasts that come in the little bags!) would be appropriate as to the difference between the two!
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    i don't find Kouros to be feral or ultra-masculine at all. I love Kouros but it just doesn't smell animalic at all to me. MKK has every animalic ingredient known to man in its topnotes.



    Quote Originally Posted by tvlampboy
    Although they smell nothing alike, Kouros is really the oily, feral beast of lore that MKK is so often made out to be.
    I agree with Supermarky that Kiehl's Musk is a close match for MKK, and for far less the price.
    If you want urine-drenched masculinity dripping with sweat, pick Kouros. (Just apply with caution, then strap on your codpiece and go forth to conquer.)

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    Default Re: if you are obsessed with getting muscs kublai khan

    Though MKK and Kiehl's Musk are not completely different, they are not very much similar either in my opinion.

    They do have similarities i agree, the opening blasts of both create an impression that they come from the same ground. But MKK's filthy blast has loads of civet and other animal musks. I doubt the Kiehl's has any civet or other animal extracts, probably only synthetic musk just as a guess. Kiehl's has more of a soapy and rosey opening in a very traiditonal way (though i wouldn't call it old fashioned. It is far less animalic than MKK from the beginning as one might think. MKK does not have the soapiness, it dries down from filth to a very soft floral smell (actually very pleasant, it doesn't smell much more animalic at this point). The Kiehl's on the other hand stays somewhat linear, the floral component seems old school, always reminds me of medevil times, stone castles........there's just something very traditional about it. The Kiehl's also gives me a darker impression, something in it also reminds me of dark ink while something in MKK reminds me of the Lychee fruit. I might be strange, but that's how these two spoke to me.

    But i think the biggest apparent difference is the soapiness in Kiehl's that i dont find in MKK. I would like to think MKK as a modern complex creation of musk with lots of animal extracts - much more exotic, and Kiehl's is a traditional (less complex) blend that stresses on synthetics. Therefore, It is not as raw and pure animalic as MKK. It's like comparing a vintage Jaguar with a modern Ferrari. While both are good in their own right, it all comes down to individual taste. For me, i'd take the Ferrari.
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    Default Re: if you are obsessed with getting muscs kublai khan

    MKK is an all vegetal musk, according the Lutens website. Kiehl's is surely synthetic, but has it's nasty moments too. I'm having a nasty moment right now with the samples I got from Black Phoenix Alchemy. Their "Satyr" scent is stinky nasty! Very raw, musky and very synthetic. It reminds of CB Musk, which is brutal in it's own right. I can't help but picture hot sweaty horses stabled in an auto repair shop, along with the unwashed mechanic, when ever I smell CB Musk. Sweaty and greasy smelling!

    Cabot's Musk Oil is on the other end of the musk spectrum. I can slather it all over me and not smell it very well. It's very light, warm and clean. It makes Jovan Musk smell wild and woolly in comparison. It lasts for days....especially on clothing.

    Alyssa Ashley Musk oil: It's nice, not as flowery as the edt, but does'nt speak to me like Kiehl's does.

    I have'nt compared MKK with Kiehl's side by side. It maybe worth using the last smidgen of my Mkk just to do so. Of the readily available musk scents out there, Kiehl's is my #1 favorite: #2 is Monsieur Musk.

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    I have decided to hold off trying to trade the kiehls. I want to see if I can harness it as a force for good!

    Layering it very carefully. I don't know though. I find it pretty offputting, just as I did MKK.

    If you were to spritz this on like any other cologne, you would really stink in a really disgusting way, I gotta tell ya!~
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    yeah well maybe the point is they are both cars

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    and they will basically both get you to the same place!
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    Default Re: if you are obsessed with getting muscs kublai khan

    Didn't mean to sound snarky- Kiehls is a perfectly acceptible sub if you cannot get MKK easily. CB I Hate Perfume Musk Reinvention is also a winner, byt very different than MKK or Kiehls

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    I didn't think so. But anyway, for what it's worth as well, I think it's fair to say that in this family Kiehl's is the original and the others are imitations/take offs.

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    Mmmm Kiehl's musk. I love the drydown - very animalic. Rawr

    Not sure about the opening though - seems kinda... feminine; very floral, imo. If MKK opens like that... I'm not so sure if I'm as interested anymore.

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    I'm missing the opening. the stuff traumatizes me so much, I don't like to spritz any to look for those florals. . .

    as I'm sure I've said in many a post re MKK I prefer my own musky bits to whatever it is they are using to get such an effect!

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    Default Re: if you are obsessed with getting muscs kublai khan

    The directory has it as an oil. According to local suppliers ist comes as a 4oz EDT (they show a brown apothecary bottle, square base). What should I be looking for, oil or EDT?

    Floral start: Also Knize 10 has flowers (mixed with orange, rose listed, not perceived) , but is very masculine despite that. Iquitos has generally collected favorite comments, but is a total miss on me: sweetly sickening. If Kiehl's has such kind of rosy sweetness, I would have to pass it (?) I cannot even bear the (leathery) sweetness in Lonestar which would be ok otherwise.
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    how do you feel about the sweetness of MR? to me it mitigates the heavy duty-ness of the musk and is what MKK and kiehl's are missing that might make them a little more palatable/more like a fragrance than just a rank odor!

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    Default Re: if you are obsessed with getting muscs kublai khan

    to my nose these only smell similar on the bottom...i have a spot in my heart for keihls, but i only like it after i have worn it all day...mkk smells good right out the gate...i love its raw animal power from the very first spray

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    I think Kingdom has much more in common with MKK than Kiehl's Musk lol. Hell, I think Musc Ravageur has more in common with MKK than Kiehl's...
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    Default Re: if you are obsessed with getting muscs kublai khan

    Quote Originally Posted by supermarky View Post
    just get Keihl's Musk! they are very very very very very similar

    and if anyone comes along and says "no they are completely different"?

    that person is full of tuberose.
    I'm full of tuberose. I can't stand Keihl's, but love Muscs Koublai Khan. They're not even close.

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    Default Re: if you are obsessed with getting muscs kublai khan

    Quote Originally Posted by somethinpositiv View Post
    I think Kingdom has much more in common with MKK than Kiehl's Musk lol. Hell, I think Musc Ravageur has more in common with MKK than Kiehl's...
    dude, you are right on....i think musc kublai khan and kingdom are very similar in evolution, but kiehls drydown does smell like mkk's drydown...it just takes to long to get there....kiehls is one of those strange frags where there is no middle ground...it either smells glorious on you or it takes forever to get to the goodpart....it takes forever to get to the goodpart for me...however it made me fall in love with musk as a note...i love all things musk! Especially MKK....God I would give my left nut for a bellljar!

    P.S. possibly my right nut too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdnba View Post
    Especially MKK....God I would give my left nut for a bellljar!

    P.S. possibly my right nut too!
    Give me both of your nuts and I'll get you a belljar of MKK.
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