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    Default The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Samsara

    For details of how to participate check out this thread first:
    http://community.basenotes.net/showthread.php?t=191212


    Dana Tabu

    Major notes / accord:
    Patchouli, Amber, Cloves, Cinnamon, Orange, Orange Blossom, Civet.

    Top:
    Bergamot oil, Coriander, Neroli, Orange, Spice Notes


    Heart:
    Clove Bud oil, Clover, Jasmine, Narcissus, Oriental Rose, Ylang-Ylang

    Base:
    Amber, Benzoin, Cedar, Civet, Moss, Musk, Patchouli, Sandal, Vetiver


    Crazy Combos for Dana Tabu include:

    Dana Tabu + TBS White Musk
    Dana Tabu + Ava Luxe Forbidden Fruit
    Dana Tabu + Borghese Il Bacio
    Dana Tabu + Gucci Accenti
    Dana Tabu + TBS Amorito
    Dana Tabu + Etro Etra
    Dana Tabu + Guerlain Jicky
    Dana Tabu + Frederick Malle Carnal Flower
    Dana Tabu + Estee Lauder Cinnabar
    Dana Tabu + Serge Lutens Douce Amere
    Dana Tabu + Jo Malone Black Vetyver Café
    Dana Tabu + Lolita Lempicka L
    Dana Tabu + Serge Lutens Rahat Loukhoum
    Dana Tabu + TBS Fuzzy Peach
    Dana Tabu + Jo Malone Nectarine Blossom & Honey
    Dana Tabu + Rochas Lumiere
    Dana Tabu + Guerlain Terracotta Voile D'Ete
    Dana Tabu + TBS Neroli Jasmine
    Dana Tabu + Molinard Habanita
    Dana Tabu + Guerlain AA Winter Delice
    Dana Tabu + Serge Lutens Arabie
    Dana Tabu + Christian Dior J’Adore
    Dana Tabu + TBS Cosy Cashmere
    Dana Tabu + Ralph Lauren Romance
    Dana Tabu + Chanel Chance
    Dana Tabu + Guerlain Samsara
    Dana Tabu + TBS Satsuma
    Dana Tabu + Guerlain Mitsouko
    Dana Tabu + Serge Lutens Ambre Sultan
    Dana Tabu + Ava Luxe Wild Black Fig
    Dana Tabu + Worth Je Reviens
    Dana Tabu + Caron Poivre
    Dana Tabu + Nemat Narcissus
    Dana Tabu + Serge Lutens A La Nuit
    Dana Tabu + YSL Nu EDP
    Dana Tabu + TBS Dewberry
    Dana Tabu + Guerlain Vetiver
    Dana Tabu + LUSH Fever massage bar (used as moisturiser / solid perfume)
    Dana Tabu + Kenzo Jungle L’Elephant
    Dana Tabu + CDG EDP / parfum
    Dana Tabu + Fendi Uomo
    Dana Tabu + Chanel No.5
    Dana Tabu + Caron Tabac Blond
    Dana Tabu + CDG Wood Coffee
    Dana Tabu + LUSH Soft Coeur massage bar
    Dana Tabu + Gucci pour Homme
    Dana Tabu + Davidoff Goodlife Woman
    Dana Tabu + Gucci Envy pour Homme
    Dana Tabu + Dior Homme
    Dana Tabu + Guerlain Shalimar (in honour of Riannon)
    Dana Tabu + TBS Vanilla Spice (or any other rich vanilla)
    Dana Tabu + Annick Goutal Eau D'Hadrien
    Dana Tabu + Jo Malone Pomegranate Noir
    Dana Tabu + CSP Amour de Cacao
    Dana Tabu + LUSH Black Magic massage bar
    Dana Tabu + Kiehls Musk Original #1
    Dana Tabu + YSL Opium pour elle
    Dana Tabu + D&G Feminine
    Dana Tabu + Givenchy Amarige


    Guerlain Samsara

    Major notes / accord:
    Sandalwood, Jasmine, Ylang-Ylang, Iris, Vanilla, Amber.


    Top:
    Bergamot oil, Lemon, Peach, Tarragon

    Heart:
    Jasmine, Rose, Orris, Ylang-Ylang, Carnation,

    Base:
    Sandal, Vanilla, Amber, Musk, Patchouli, Tonka Bean


    Crazy Combos for Guerlain Samsara include:

    Guerlain Samsara + Diptyque Tam Dao (suggested by Riannon)
    Guerlain Samsara + Fresh Index Sandalwood Verte (suggested by Riannon)
    Guerlain Samsara + Creed Ambre Canelle (suggested by Riannon)
    Guerlain Samsara + Givenchy Organza Indecence
    Guerlain Samsara + TBS Amorito
    Guerlain Samsara + Chanel Bois des Iles
    Guerlain Samsara + Serge Lutens Arabie
    Guerlain Samsara + Yardley Sandalwood
    Guerlain Samsara + Dior Diorella
    Guerlain Samsara + Givenchy Ysatis
    Guerlain Samsara + Ava Luxe Wild Black Fig
    Guerlain Samsara + Guerlain Shalimar Light
    Guerlain Samsara + Dior Homme
    Guerlain Samsara + TBS Pink Pepper
    Guerlain Samsara + Hermes Hiris
    Guerlain Samsara + TBS Fuzzy Peach
    Guerlain Samsara + Serge Lutens A La Nuit
    Guerlain Samsara + Estee Lauder Cinnabar
    Guerlain Samsara + L'Artisan Voleur de Roses
    Guerlain Samsara + Guerlain Shalimar (in double honour of Riannon)
    Guerlain Samsara + Annick Goutal Songes
    Guerlain Samsara + TBS Woody Sandalwood
    Guerlain Samsara + Guerlain Terracotta Voile D'Ete
    Guerlain Samsara + Jo Malone Pomegranate Noir
    Guerlain Samsara + Dior Eau Sauvage
    Guerlain Samsara + Serge Lutens Santal Blanc
    Guerlain Samsara + Gucci Envy for Men
    Guerlain Samsara + TBS Cinnamon Spice
    Guerlain Samsara + Ava Luxe Film Noir
    Guerlain Samsara + Fendi Uomo
    Guerlain Samsara + Jo Malone Orange Blossom
    Guerlain Samsara + TBS Neroli Jasmine
    Guerlain Samsara + Chopard Casmir
    Guerlain Samsara + LV Piper Nigrum
    Guerlain Samsara + TBS Strawberry

    I will update the lists with suggestions from participants as I see them. Please remember to make a note of which combinations you tried when reporting back and to make sure to answer the core questions:

    What did you try?
    Did you like it?
    Do you think it ‘works’?
    Did it illicit compliments / comments?
    Which notes dominated in the blend?
    Did it work out the way you imagined it would?
    Would you wear it again?

    But most importantly

    HAVE FUN!!!









    Last edited by moondeva; 8th January 2007 at 05:46 PM.
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    Tabu + Orange Blossom * Hermes Rouge + Bellodgia* Voleur du Roses+ Rose Ispahan * Rasa Extreme + Paris * Wood Coffee + Cafe Noir *

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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Shalimar

    I paired Tabu with Serge Lutens' Rahat Loukhoum. The major notes for Loukoum are cherry, almond, honey, and (to my nose) a bit of tobacco. I chose these two fragrances because I was intrigued by the promise of the sweet orange and honey notes in Tabu, and wanted to tease them out a bit.

    I found my concoction a little overpowering at first; both Tabu and Loukoum come on very strong, and I wasn't really a fan of the intense cherry cordial and patchouli aroma that resulted from their mingled top notes. The Lutens seems to dominate the blend, so for the first hour, the fragrance smells very much like a slightly dirtier and spicier Loukhoum. However, as it is drying down, I'm finding that the two blend together almost seamlessly. Loukhoum, after its intense opening, drops precipitously into a very mild, sweet scent of honey and almond flour. Tabu, on the other hand, stays strong. So, as the cherry notes fade, I find myself wearing a sweet, dark honey fragrance with a touch of almond and a dusting of spices. I don't think I'll wear this again; it's a little too strong for me, and I was disappointed by the way the Loukhoum overwhelmed the Tabu (I was expecting the latter to be more dominant). Still, I'll wait till my SO comes home from work to see what he thinks of it.


    Favorite Notes:
    Rose, Apricot, Violet, Leather, Iris, Blackberry, Saffron, Musk, Incense

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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Shalimar

    OK, I'll have to wait for my Tabu to arrive, but in the mean time, I've been experimenting with Samsara. I wear the EDT to work as it is fairly light to the other concentrations, and I love sandalwood. By the end of the day, though, depending on my body chemistry, the tonka/vanilla can take over in the drydown, which, while pleasant, gets kind of *meh* after a while.

    I like to freshen up by applying a roll-on decant of 10 Corso Como: "rose, geranium, vetiver, musk, sandalwood and Malay oud-wood oil." Others have noted a fruitly plum note in this fragrance, but on me it very, very dry on its own, with the oud and incense predominating. These notes blend with the sandalwood and vanilla in Samsara, giving it a greater depth and complexity, while warming and softening the 10 Corso Como.

    I haven't gotten any feedback on this combination, but then I don't get many comments at work, as I try to avoid too much sillage for the sake of others with different taste. (I wore Farnesiana to work once, and people asked if I was burning candles in my office -- I've got enough going on without a visit from the fire marshall )

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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Shalimar

    Wonderful! I can use most of the notes I made yesterday for the combination Samsara + Tam Dao .

    First let me tell about the feelings they evoke:

    Samsara is me, wearing cashmere and silk, feeling romantic
    Tam Dao is me, wearing a suit, talking business, feeling serious

    Samsara + Tam Dao: the Sandalwood love child of a businessman and a diva. The child has the genes of both and sometimes you will say: ah, exactly her playful mother. And then the child suddenly changes into a very intent and serious person.
    Versatile if you wish, having the best of both parents.

    Let me put it this way: I love Samsara (I tested with EDT but usually prefer Extrait), but with Samsara on one arm and Samsara layered with Tam Dao on the other, I know I will go for that delicious combination.
    The sweetness that sometimes, suddenly bores me is now subdued. What I get now is a beauty with a bite.

    I wonder: the sandalwood in Tam Dao is from Goa but where did the sandalwood used for Samsara came from? And....would it make a difference?

    Notes for Tam Dao translated from OzMoz:
    Top notes: Italian cypress, Myrtle. Brazilian Rosewood
    Middle notes: Sandalwood from Goa, Cedarwood
    Base notes: Ambergris, Vanilla, White Musks

    Since most of the time I work from home, I have only one very discerning and scent loving guinea pig I can always rely on.
    Guinea pig loved it and went to work this morning with a liberal spray of Tam Dao...asking if he could have a "very tiny dab" of "that other scent" (well, I can't expect that he will remember the name of every scent, eh?)

    Your Honor, I rest my case. I adore this lovechild
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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Shalimar

    Oh my, what have I started here?!

    djuna - the Tabu + Rahat Loukhom is inspired. It sounds great for me to try especially as I find the Rahat Loukhoum so muted and fleeting on my skin. I shall have to try it soon. It will be interesting to see how the combination plays out on my skin. Please keep on 'em coming!

    Riannon - I love you description of the interplay between the woods in your Samsara + Tam Dao combination. I have resisted trying Tam Dao so far but now I want to try this amazing combo! From reviews I have noted that Tam Dao is actually more cedarwood then sandalwood (they are often mistaken for each other and used together in blends) which would explain the difference in the sense of the woodiness. Cedarwood and Australian Sandalwood are cooler, fresher, greener in scent as seen in the Tam Dao with a serene, meditative 'cleanness' to them. Mysore sandalwood on the other hand is very rich, creamy and smooth with a very voluptuous feel to it. It would be very interesting to see how these to aspects of the same types of woods interact in a blend. Oh my - yet another sample to seek out...!

    Now for my first crazy combo:

    What did you try?
    Last night I spontaneously decided to try a crazy combo of Dana Tabu + Gres Cabotine.



    Cabotine Notes

    Top:
    Orange Blossom, Tangerine, Ylang-Ylang, Peach, Plum, Cassis, Green Notes, Coriander

    Heart:
    Ginger Lily, Iris, Hyacinth, Rose, Tuberose, Jasmine, Heliotrope, Carnation

    Base:
    Sandal, Blackcurrant bud, Musk, Vanilla, Amber, Cedar, Civet, Vetiver, Tonka Bean



    Did you like it?

    Luckily this turned out quite well for me - though it could have turned out very, very wrong.

    Do you think it ‘works’?
    Yes.

    Did it illicit compliments / comments?
    Sadly, I was all alone last night so no opportunity for comments. It worked so well though that I know I shall be impressing others with it in warmer especially this spring!

    Which notes dominated in the blend?
    At first the intense fresh greeness of Cabotine seemed to blow Tabu out of the water. Soon however Tabu recovered and began smoothing and rounding the sharp edges and plans of this springtime fresh beauty. Tabu is a great blender & 'tamer' and here this talent was a wonder to behold. Subtly the Tabu sinuously intertwined and wrapped itself throughout and around Cabotine until it was nearly impossible to see where one ended and the other began. Usually I find Cabotine too sharp and brittle for my liking, aggressively bright and vivacious giving of piercing shards of light and I actually only suffer it in spring to have some enjoyment of the wonderful late heart & basenotes (if it doesn't give me a headache first). Tabu lowers the needle pitched notes that grate making the whole experience more enjoyable without weighing down the scent. It also adds its distinct ginger / cinnamon / amber spice accord which was recognisable but blended very well and complimented the ginger / ginger lily / carnation dominated Cabotine heart notes. The drydown is still instantly recognisable as Cabotine, but the girl-child scent is now all grown up - smooth, lightly spicy, still a fresh, green floral but now elegant and refined. This crazy combo is definitely a keeper for me.

    Did it work out the way you imagined it would?
    I had imagined that the Tabu may weigh down the blend with an overdose of patchouli and conflicting spice. So no - it worked out even better.

    Would you wear it again?
    Absolutely! I had been unable to wear my beloved Cabotine as I found it too high pitched and grating, especially now that I no longer smoke. The Tabu helps to turn down the pitch without smothering the beauty of the scent. I can see this getting some good airplay this spring and summer. Yay!
    Favourite (Winter) Crazy Combos

    Tabu + Orange Blossom * Hermes Rouge + Bellodgia* Voleur du Roses+ Rose Ispahan * Rasa Extreme + Paris * Wood Coffee + Cafe Noir *

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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Samsara

    ...pant, pant, gasp, cough (clatters late into warmly lit parlor - sinks heavily into a deeply plush sofa, draped with heavy silk scarves)...

    OK. So I'm a little late. But here's the thing. Got up this morning still battling the cold and climbed into my favoritest security blanket - Bal a Versailles all orange and spices, roses and jasmine, vetiver and patchouli. A wonderful classic that I've owned off and on for the forty some years since it was introduced. A classy, luxurious frag at home with boot jeans and a cashmere turtleneck as well as LaCroix luxe. (Like I wear either of these.)

    Lurched downstairs to discover I'd missed the bus on the inception of this wonderful project (salaams to Moondeva). Nice long talk with my favorite Hawk and then settled into morning tea (the smoky Hu Kwah) and then oversprayed with my new best friend Tabu. Patchouli, cinnamon, orange, jasmine, narcissus and sandalwood.

    Get the picture. Intensification - or underscoring - or echoing of Bal!! It's hard to figure out where one leaves off and the other begins, so well do they marry. Serendipity! (snuggles into the heavy silk - redolent of Bal a Tabu

    Did I like it and would I do it again? Absolutely!

    Which notes dominated the blend? Probably the orange and patchouli with the flowers crowding up right behind.

    Did it elicit compliments? Only saw one person and she is not fragrance-conscious - ALWAYS says "You always smell so good!"

    Did it work out the way you wanted it to? Pretty much! :bounce:

    This is so fun! Sorry I didn't follow ALL the instructions but tomorrow (today?) it'll be Mitsouko



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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Samsara

    ...pant, pant, gasp, cough (clatters late into warmly lit parlor - sinks heavily into a deeply plush sofa draped with heavy silk scarves)...

    OK. So I'm a little late. But here's the thing. Got up this morning still battling the cold and climbed into my favoritest security blanket - Bal a Versailles all orange and spices, roses and jasmine, vetiver and patchouli. A wonderful classic that I've owned off and on for the forty some years since it was introduced. A classy, luxurious frag at home with boot jeans and a cashmere turtleneck as well as LaCroix luxe. (Like I wear either of these.)

    Lurched downstairs to discover I'd missed the bus on the inception of this wonderful project (salaams to Moondeva). Nice long talk with my favorite Hawk and then settled into morning tea (the smoky Hu Kwah) and then oversprayed with my new best friend Tabu. Patchouli, cinnamon, orange, jasmine, narcissus and sandalwood.

    Get the picture. Intensification - or underscoring - or echoing of Bal!! It's hard to figure out where one leaves off and the other begins, so well do they marry. Serendipity! (snuggles into the heavy silk - redolent of Bal a Tabu

    Did I like it and would I do it again? Absolutely!

    Which notes dominated the blend? Probably the orange and patchouli with the flowers crowding up right behind.

    Did it elicit compliments? Only saw one person and she is not fragrance-conscious - ALWAYS says "You always smell so good!"

    Did it work out the way you wanted it to? Pretty much! :bounce:

    This is so fun! Sorry I didn't follow ALL the instructions but tomorrow (today?) it'll be Mitsouko
    "The world is ruled by letting things take their course. It cannot be ruled by interfering." Lao Tze

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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Samsara

    Quote Originally Posted by Taolady
    ...Get the picture. Intensification - or underscoring - or echoing of Bal!! It's hard to figure out where one leaves off and the other begins, so well do they marry. Serendipity! (snuggles into the heavy silk - redolent of Bal a Tabu
    G
    It is so reassuring that you found this, G! When I first smelled Bal a Versailles (it was a fortuitous blind buy) my first thought was that it was Tabu lite! I now realise that they are very similar (that gorgeous amber / orange / spice patchouli accord) except that Bal features a healthy thwack of sandalwood to add a smooth woody creaminess to the blend.

    I am glad that you enjoyed them together! I think we can chalk this up as a resounding success and earmark it to be included in the final list!
    Favourite (Winter) Crazy Combos

    Tabu + Orange Blossom * Hermes Rouge + Bellodgia* Voleur du Roses+ Rose Ispahan * Rasa Extreme + Paris * Wood Coffee + Cafe Noir *

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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Shalimar

    Quote Originally Posted by Riannon
    Let me put it this way: I love Samsara (I tested with EDT but usually prefer Extrait), but with Samsara on one arm and Samsara layered with Tam Dao on the other, I know I will go for that delicious combination.
    The sweetness that sometimes, suddenly bores me is now subdued. What I get now is a beauty with a bite.
    Mmmmmm -- sounds great! Same dynamic as my 10CC experiment, but smoother and rounder, I'm guessing.

    I can't wait to try this combo -- as soon as my Aedes samples either emerge from the black hole of lost Fedex packages or are definitively judged lost, so I can reorder I just know I'm going to miss SL week either way

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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Samsara

    Quote Originally Posted by moondeva
    It is so reassuring that you found this! When I first smelled Bal a Versailles (it was a fortuitous blind buy) my first thought was that it was Tabu lite! I now realise that they are very similar (that gorgeous amber / orange / spice patchouli accord) except that Bal features a healthy thwack of sandalwood to add a smooth woody creaminess to the blend.

    I am glad that you enjoyed them together! I think we can chalk this up as a resounding success and earmark it to be included in the final list!
    And the vetiver (I guess) in Tabu gives it an edge! How exciting that this happy accident may make the A list!!

    Just got a sample of Goutal Mandgragore which is great fun and I may try that with Tabu (my new best friend) tomorrow!

    THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU for this fun idea! :bounce:
    "The world is ruled by letting things take their course. It cannot be ruled by interfering." Lao Tze

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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Shalimar

    Quote Originally Posted by moondeva
    Oh my, what have I started here?!

    [SIZE=4]djuna - the Tabu + Rahat Loukhom is inspired.
    It should be - you thought of it!

    This evening, however, I've come up with my own combination: Tabu over the original Stella. Stella is mostly rose, with faint hints of peony, amber and bergamot, and I thought it might bring out the floral heart of Tabu.

    This is just gorgeous - with each sniff, I think I might faint or melt into a puddle on the floor. I love the deep, rich, dewy rose of Stella, but have always found the base a little thin and sour; with Tabu, the rose still takes center place, but it's surrounded by a dark, mysterious aura of woods and spice. I feel a bit like Mata Hari. I know I'm wearing this combination again, and soon.


    Favorite Notes:
    Rose, Apricot, Violet, Leather, Iris, Blackberry, Saffron, Musk, Incense

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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Shalimar

    OK, I tried Samsara over Tann Rokka (Kisu), hoping that the Sandalwood and Ylang Ylang notes in each would intersect in an interesting way. (TR: Ylang-Ylang and Rosewood on a base of Cedar wood and Eastern musk, with underlying Asiatic marine notes.) In the drydown, they did blend well. TR's marine note is warmed and softened by Samsara's vanilla/tonka, and with that touch of saline Samsara in turn is less sweet, airier, and seems spicier.

    Not sure I'd wear this again, though, at least not in the same order, as the top notes clashed (the iffy jasmine in Samsara EDT maybe?) A spritz of TR after the Samsara settled down might have worked better. While the end result is nice enough, it's not really greater than the sum of it's parts unless you are bored with one or the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by djuna
    ... This is just gorgeous - with each sniff, I think I might faint or melt into a puddle on the floor. I love the deep, rich, dewy rose of Stella, but have always found the base a little tin and sour; with Tabu, the rose still takes center place, but it's surrounded by a dark, mysterious aura of woods and spice.
    Sounds fantastic -- can't wait till my Tabu arrives!

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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Samsara

    I just read this thread this morning out of curiosity...I saw the previous thread about the layering challenge but wasn't planning on participating, as I don't layer blended fragrances together, but rather layer blends with 1 essential oil that's in the note list.

    But my interest was very piqued when Tabu-Opium caught my eye. I own and like both, but they are problematic for me, in roughly opposite ways. Opium always smells a bit too dry and scratchy to me, and somewhat lacking in depth. Tabu strikes me as a tad too syrupy and cloying. But they both have other elements that I LOVE, so I've been trying to reconcile myself to their down-sides. I never thought of layering them, but when I saw the pair on the list I realized that together they might smooth out the edges I don't enjoy.

    So I applied Tabu to my wrists, and Opium to the crooks of my elbow, almost 4 hrs. ago. As soon as the combined sillage wafted up, I knew it was a success. And the hours since have confirmed this for me. The Tabu was given more of a sparkling top and it's moist darkness smoothed and deepened the Opium. Oddly, though Opium usually fades too quickly on me, while Tabu lasts and lasts, with this pairing the Opium dominated! I can only slightly smell the Tabu on my wrists now, but when I sniff my arm the Opium is going strong. It smells different now, not really like Tabu, but exactly the way I always wanted Opium to smell, and sensed the potential of. Could the Opium have somehow swallowed and digested the Tabu, thus absorbing new powers?!

    I was out shopping, didn't get any compliments on it, but I rarely do without extreme closeness. I don't think I spray enough to have a detectable cloud or trail.

    I'll definitely wear often unless my feelings change radically. I doubt that I'll wear either without the other again. Thanks for the inspiration!

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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Samsara

    Welcome to Basenotes, gala! :wave:

    And thank you so much for joining this thread / participating in the Great Layering Challenge.

    I have a little confession to make. I have another perfume which I love, called Lagerfeld KL. I happen to have it in both vintage and modern formulation - it is the modern formulation that I am now referring to. I wore KL for women for much of last winter (2005/2006) and everytime I wore it I found it niggled me that it reminded me of one or another of my perfumes. The penny dropped in the end and I realised that on my chemistry KL smelled like the love child of Dana Tabu & YSL Opium! So when thinking of crazy combinations using Tabu, Opium seemed like a natural choice. I was interested to see whether the pairing would actually work or whether my nose was tricking me. I have the feeling that the combination will turn out to be better than the Lagerfeld KL - more complex, rich and compelling. But if you wish to have that scent without mixing it yourself - check out KL!

    I must admit this is sounding like another keeper! Yay for layering!
    Favourite (Winter) Crazy Combos

    Tabu + Orange Blossom * Hermes Rouge + Bellodgia* Voleur du Roses+ Rose Ispahan * Rasa Extreme + Paris * Wood Coffee + Cafe Noir *

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    Quote Originally Posted by coumarin
    ( I just know I'm going to miss SL week either way
    Sorry to hear that, dear!! Are you absolutely sure? It will be so much fun to have you in as well
    Last edited by Riannon; 9th January 2007 at 06:45 AM. Reason: Never change your own rules, not even for perfume's sake!
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    Quote Originally Posted by moondeva
    Riannon - From reviews I have noted that Tam Dao is actually more cedarwood then sandalwood (they are often mistaken for each other and used together in blends) which would explain the difference in the sense of the woodiness. Cedarwood and Australian Sandalwood are cooler, fresher, greener in scent as seen in the Tam Dao with a serene, meditative 'cleanness' to them. Mysore sandalwood on the other hand is very rich, creamy and smooth with a very voluptuous feel to it. It would be very interesting to see how these to aspects of the same types of woods interact in a blend. Oh my - yet another sample to seek out...!
    That is worth some more exploring! Thanks for your thoughts on this,MoonDeva.
    I think I will try Tam Dao against Cèdre this afternoon, that is, when I have recovered from my (obvious) sensory overload

    Not for layering experience, just to compare some notes.

    I think I feel a layering addiction creeping up on me
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    Tried TBS Woody Sandalwood over Samsara EDT tonight. This seemed a relatively "safe" mix to try, as I was going out shortly after I put them on. I used the Samsara first, and dabbed the TBS oil on wrists and cleavage.

    There was no conflict between the scents, because Samsara completely devoured the Woody Sandalwood and belched out clouds of Big! Eighties! Sillage! Samsara isn't subtle, anyway, but give it the oil to feed on, and it just leaps off my skin into the air. Pleasant, but the Woody Sandalwood doesn't have the cojones to significantly alter the Guerlain bully. :P

    If for some reason I ever decide Samsara is too meek (!), I know what to feed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unstableisotope
    ...There was no conflict between the scents, because Samsara completely devoured the Woody Sandalwood and belched out clouds of Big! Eighties! Sillage! Samsara isn't subtle, anyway, but give it the oil to feed on, and it just leaps off my skin into the air. Pleasant, but the Woody Sandalwood doesn't have the cojones to significantly alter the Guerlain bully. :P

    If for some reason I ever decide Samsara is too meek (!), I know what to feed it.
    (TOO funny! Hope you don't ever stabilize, dear isotope!)

    Carried through with threat of Goutal Mandragore (Top: bergamot, black pepper. Middle: Star Anise, Mint. Base: Ginger, Boxwood, Madrake...."Go and catch a falling star...get with child a mandrake root..." wonder if anyone's still looking...?) with new best friend [b]Tabu[/] (I want to - DID - take her to bed with me!)

    Not sure how I feel about the pairing. I bring out the rich sandalwood/flower notes in [b]Tabu[/] with just a hint of the citrus. My first sniff of Mandragore revealed the ginger bergamot sandalwood connection - and especially for a brief moment the pepper. Goutals don't work that well for me as a rule....

    But I just poured some more over the Tabu and will test drive it with my Tai Chi guys....
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    Quote Originally Posted by unstableisotope
    ...There was no conflict between the scents, because Samsara completely devoured the Woody Sandalwood and belched out clouds of Big! Eighties! Sillage! Samsara isn't subtle, anyway, but give it the oil to feed on, and it just leaps off my skin into the air. Pleasant, but the Woody Sandalwood doesn't have the cojones to significantly alter the Guerlain bully. :P

    If for some reason I ever decide Samsara is too meek (!), I know what to feed it.
    (TOO funny! Hope you don't ever stabilize, Dear Isotope!)

    Carried through with threat of Goutal Mandragore (Top: bergamot, black pepper. Middle: Star Anise, Mint. Base: Ginger, Boxwood, Madrake...."Go and catch a falling star...get with child a mandrake root..." wonder if anyone's still looking...?) with new best friend Tabu (I want to - DID - take her to bed with me!)

    Not sure how I feel about the pairing. I bring out the rich sandalwood/flower notes in Tabu with just a hint of the citrus. My first sniff of Mandragore revealed the ginger bergamot connection - and especially for a brief moment the pepper. Had thought the ginger especially would pair nicely with the sandalwood/citrus...Goutals don't work that well for me as a rule....

    But I just poured some more over the Tabu and will test drive it with my Tai Chi guys....

    LATER: Which didn't happen....got to the end of the driveway and felt light-headed so headed back to the couch in the TV Room and stoopid tee vee. Soooo

    Did it work the way I hoped: Somewhat. Was hoping for more of the ginger/citrus...
    Did it elicit any compliments? Didn't have the opportunity to check it out close up - although later the checkout guy in the supermarket smiled!!
    Would I try it again? Nah. But on second thought - maybe. When my smeller is more reliable.

    Tomorrow: Figue Amere Thinkin' figgy/salty with oranges/sandalwood.....

    AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS POST ENDED UP APPEARING TWICE SO PLEASE DON'T ASK ME....(sob)
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    Moondeva, I would like to thank you for starting the most fun, by far, thread or game that I have seen yet and it is extremely educational as well. I bought a little bottle of Tabu last night and have rediscovered a True Classic. This has so much in it that I thought I'd try it with my favorite note almond. So I combined it with CSP Vanille Almond. I know my tastes are not for everyone, but I happened to love it. It works for me. I have not worn it out in public yet, but would not be afraid to at all in a very light dose. What has happened is that the almond has calmed down the patchouli and made it a much smoother wear. Yes, I would definitely wear it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riannon
    Sorry to hear that, dear!! Are you absolutely sure? It will be so much fun to have you in as well
    I'm in on the SL challenge for the 2 days my Fumerie Turque sample lasts, and I'm leaning toward ordering more samples tonight, just to have Borneo 1834 and something with frangiapanni for the book club challenge.

    Oops, 1834 is non-export :-(
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    Quote Originally Posted by moondeva
    Welcome to Basenotes, gala! :wave:

    And thank you so much for joining this thread / participating in the Great Layering Challenge.

    I have a little confession to make. I have another perfume which I love, called Lagerfeld KL. I happen to have it in both vintage and modern formulation - it is the modern formulation that I am now referring to. I wore KL for women for much of last winter (2005/2006) and everytime I wore it I found it niggled me that it reminded me of one or another of my perfumes. The penny dropped in the end and I realised that on my chemistry KL smelled like the love child of Dana Tabu & YSL Opium! So when thinking of crazy combinations using Tabu, Opium seemed like a natural choice. I was interested to see whether the pairing would actually work or whether my nose was tricking me. I have the feeling that the combination will turn out to be better than the Lagerfeld KL - more complex, rich and compelling. But if you wish to have that scent without mixing it yourself - check out KL!

    I must admit this is sounding like another keeper! Yay for layering!
    Thanks for the welcome!

    I've decided to participate further....with Tabu-Amarige de Givenchy. I like Amarige, but find it a bit "high-pitched", as you said about Cabotine. I may not try it too soon (I'm on a Tabu-Opium kick at the moment) but will report back with the verdict when it's in.

    I'd like to try KL....anyone know if there are likely to be testers of it in dept. stores (such as Macy's, Dillards) these days? I know there would have been years ago, but I think it may have become more of an obscurity...it's widely available online, of course, but I'd like to test.

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    Note to self: when the Queen of Layering says: "Guerlain Shalimar is such a complex, multifaceted perfume with such a distinct and recognisable character that I think it may overwhelm most perfumes that it is combined with".......for heavens sake, Riannon, stubborn woman, just listen for once!!

    Moondeva, you were absolutely, completely right!! But still, I am delighted you gave me the chance to make my own mistakes

    I am wearing Shalimar extrait on the wrist and Samsara on the forearm. I smell delicious, that is a fact.
    The postman delivering a parcel smiled at me with flared nostrils, so let's say that is a compliment.

    But still I am not happy. In fact, I am deeply disappointed because I expected this to be a great combo and what do I get? Two soloist's!!
    Shalimar is indeed a scent to be savoured on its own.

    Somehow I get Shalimar and Samsara apart, not bonding. No, they are not enemies either but they are very much holding their own ground. Then there is a whiff of soft delicious Shalimar, then there is Samsara, bold and strong. "And never the twain shall meet".

    Notes for Shalimar taken from OzMoz:
    Top Note: Bergamot, Mandarin, Cedar, Lemon
    Middle Note: Patchouli, Jasmine, Rose, Orris
    Base Note: Vanilla, Benzoin, Peru Balsam, Leather

    I don't think I will try to join these beauties again. What is the use? But maybe one day I will find that very special, maybe simple scent that drastically, but in a beautiful way, will add 'something extra' to Shalimar.
    Give me hope......

    The search continues!

    loving this experiment
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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Samsara

    Quote Originally Posted by TDDanae
    Moondeva, I would like to thank you for starting the most fun, by far, thread or game that I have seen yet and it is extremely educational as well. I bought a little bottle of Tabu last night and have rediscovered a True Classic. This has so much in it that I thought I'd try it with my favorite note almond. So I combined it with CSP Vanille Almond. I know my tastes are not for everyone, but I happened to love it. It works for me. I have not worn it out in public yet, but would not be afraid to at all in a very light dose. What has happened is that the almond has calmed down the patchouli and made it a much smoother wear. Yes, I would definitely wear it again.
    Oooooh. I gotta try this! Thanks T! :bounce:
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    First and (so far ONLY) niche frag I've found FBW has been Miller Harris' Figue Amere (and that only because I found a good deal on EBay!)

    Thought this fresh, weird figgy, censer-y sea nymph might be at odds with Tabu's lush warmth - very yin yang - but maybe in a good way.

    So far (an hour in) it's working really well! The sandalwood in My Best Friend and the incense note in Figgy are harmonizing nicely. The slight sea breeze is not at all at odds with the flowers and orange.

    Will report further! :bounce:

    Later: Whadda great idea. The slightly briney incense and the warm amber sandalwood have settled down in happy harmony! Surprisingly there's no clash and each support the other. I waft nicely!

    Did it turn out as I expected? Better!! Would I do it again? Absolutely!

    Did it elicit compliments: Yup. Both my new masseuse AND the desk guy commented favorably if not explicitly. ("Gosh you smell good")

    AND my smeller is not 100%!!!
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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Samsara

    I love Samsara EDP and have tried layering it with many things over the months. Last night and this morning, I tried pure essental oils: Jasmine, sandlewood, orange blossom, & almond, separately of course, with the Samsara. Unfortunately, they only ended up making a mess. I have tried it over Gucci PH and other woody scents, but it ended the same way, just bad. So from here out, I will have my Samsara strait up and work with Tabu the rest of the month. Good luck to you all.

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    This is such an interesting thread and I'm learning so much! I hadn't expected to participate, so hadn't bother reading this thread, but all the talk about Tabu must've gotten to me by osmosis.

    Today I bought a Tabu gift set, not for layering but just because I'd heard it mentioned so much here in previous days...but now I am game to try this game and there's no time like the present!

    I have CdG Kyoto in my purse because it's my SoTD. So, before I set off to meet my friend for a drink, I'm going to experiment. I'm thinking Tabu as the base, with the cedary Kyoto dancing on top. Two strong scents...what will happen when they layer?

    I will report back later. Thank you Moondeva for your awesome knowledge and always entertaining posts
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    I have been a busy little layerer this last 24 hours (see my latest crazy layering fiends post).

    I thought I had better try out some combos using Samsara since Tabu is getting most of the love at the moment. Don't read me wrong, I am so happy that my long term love is actually receiving some long deserved love and attention after so many years of obscurity, neglect and disrespect!

    Anyway, here are a couple of Samsara inspired crazy combos:

    What did you try?
    Guerlain Samsara + Caron Poivre (both parfum)

    Did you like it?
    Yes!

    Do you think it ‘works’?
    Erm...yes. 'Works' as in: Caron Poivre works Guerlain Samsara and makes Samsara her bi-atch!

    Did it illicit compliments / comments?
    No spontaneous compliments. SO said he liked when asked to sniff & comment.

    Which notes dominated in the blend?
    The distinctive and unforgettable pepper and carnation from Poivre ruled from beginning to end. The jasmine / ylang-ylang of Samsara was overwhelmed and the amber / sandalwood / tonka bean drydown played a supportive role to Poivre by smoothing the prickly / scratchy rough edges and prolonging longevity.

    Did it work out the way you imagined it would?
    Not really, I had expected Samsara to have more of a distinct presence, especially in the drydown as it was parfum strength and I thought the base would dominate those of the Poivre.

    Would you wear it again?
    Absolutely! I find Caron Poivre much more distinctive and comfortable, and plain old 'me', than Guerlain Samsara parfum. Sadly I have despaired at the lack of longevity that I experience with Caron Poivre. Potent and uncompromising in opening but soon gone with a whimper. The Samsara is a perfect choice for 'rooting' and supporting the potency that is Poivre without compromising the scent. Result!

    .....

    What did you try?
    Guerlain Samsara (parfum) + Serge Lutens Arabie (EDP)

    Did you like it?
    Yes!

    Do you think it ‘works’?
    Erm...yes. 'Works' as in: SL Arabie works Guerlain Samsara and makes Samsara her bi-atch!

    Did it illicit compliments / comments?
    No spontaneous compliments. SO said he liked when asked to sniff & comment. He preferred this to the Caron Poivre + Guerlain Samsara combo.

    Which notes dominated in the blend?
    The distinctive dates, figs and spices in Arabie ruled from beginning to end. The jasmine / ylang-ylang of Samsara was overwhelmed and the amber / sandalwood / tonka bean drydown played a supportive role to Arabie by smoothing the raw edges and prolonging longevity.

    (are you seeing a theme yet... )

    Did it work out the way you imagined it would?
    Not really, I had expected Samsara to have more of a distinct presence, especially in the drydown as it was parfum strength and I thought the base would dominate those of the more fleeting Arabie EDP.

    Would you wear it again?
    Yes. I find SL Arabie EDP much more distinctive and comfortable, and plain old 'me', than Guerlain Samsara parfum. Sadly I have despaired at the lack of longevity that I experience with SL Arabie. Potent and uncompromising in opening but soon gone with a subtle, but 'clean' whimper. The Samsara is a perfect choice for 'rooting' and supporting the potency that is Arabie without compromising the scent. Result!

    ...

    I am rather disappointed these did not turn out to be more distinct 'hybrids' of the two scents - even though the results were still successful.

    It would appear that Guerlain Samsara is a lot more 'delicate' then I recall so I shall continue the Samsara experimentation with slightly less aggressive / potent partners...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Riannon
    ... But maybe one day I will find that very special, maybe simple scent that drastically, but in a beautiful way, will add 'something extra' to Shalimar.
    Give me hope......
    My first thought is almond - I think a delicious foody almond like The Body Shop Almond Body Butter / Lotion, or Caron Farnesiana EDP / parfum, would a very delicious nuance / complexity to the distinctive Guerlain Shalimar.

    ...

    Taolady - yet another superlative success! Go you! You are a complete natural when it comes to this... I have not had the pleasure of experiencing the perfume you have mentioned but I am thinking that the same beauty may be possible to create using other fig dominated perfumes. How do these combo's sound to you:

    Dana Tabu + Calvin Klein Dune
    Dana Tabu + Davidoff Goodlife Woman
    Dana Tabu + Calvin Klein Dune For Men
    Dana Tabu + Ava Luxe Fig
    Dana Tabu + Jo Malone Wild Cassis & Fig
    Dana Tabu + Hermes Un Jardin en Mediterrannee

    You also mentioned specifically, the sea breeze / aquatic elements. Do any of the following crazy combos inspire you to follow that aspect / nuance a little further? :

    Dana Tabu + Calvin Klein Escape
    Dana Tabu + Calvin Klein Truth
    Dana Tabu + Laura Biagiotti Laura
    Dana Tabu + Issey Miyake L'Eau D'Issey
    Dana Tabu + Bond No.9 Hamptons
    Dana Tabu + Lanvin Oxygène
    Dana Tabu + Sonia Rykiel L'Eau de Sonia Rykiel (blue shirt)

    Do let me know...

    ...

    Quote Originally Posted by TDDanae
    I love Samsara EDP and have tried layering it with many things over the months. Last night and this morning, I tried pure essental oils: Jasmine, sandlewood, orange blossom, & almond, separately of course, with the Samsara. Unfortunately, they only ended up making a mess. I have tried it over Gucci PH and other woody scents, but it ended the same way, just bad. So from here out, I will have my Samsara strait up and work with Tabu the rest of the month. Good luck to you all.
    TDDanae - so sorry to hear that your recent experimentation didn't work out. {{{sympathy}}} You will be pleased to know that these two perfumes are only until next thursday. I was hoping that we could choose another two (oriental) perfumes to explore for the later half of the month - before moving on to animalic types. I was also hoping that people would consider this thread open ended and would update / recommend /review more Dana Tabu or Guerlain Samsara inspired crazy combos regularly, whenever they wished to, in the future.

    ...

    Much love to those of you taking part in this huge challenge and those of you still considering it! Keep those lovely layerings coming! I shall be back soon with more.

    regards
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    Default Re: The Great Layering Challenge #1 - Dana Tabu / Guerlain Samsara

    What did you try?
    Commes des Garcons Kyoto + Dana Tabu

    Did you like it?
    Not enough to do it again.


    Do you think it ‘works’?
    No. The Tabu totally dominated the Kyoto. My first attempt I sprayed 2x Tabu on the base and 2x Kyoto right over that, then rubbed my forearms together to let the scents totally meld. This yielded the best results. Kyoto tamed Tabu just a touch, drying out the thick syurpy sweetness of the latter. The cedar note drifted to the top and occasionally trilled about, whistling from the depths of thick spice, orange, rose, and jasmine in Tabu's heart.

    About one hour later, I did 4x Tabu on my left arm, 4x Kyoto on my right, and walked through a cloud of 2x Tabu followed by a cloud of 2x Kyoto. This yielded mediocre results, as Tabu completely dominated Kyoto.

    Did it illicit compliments / comments?
    No.

    Which notes dominated in the blend?
    Tabu's spice, orange, rose, and jasmine. Even at the drydown, Tabu won out with its civety, animalic syurp. Kyoto is contemplative, internal, still. Tabu is expressive, outré, attention-demanding. Kyoto's meditative nature had no chance in Tabu's dramatic performance. Kyoto whispered the last breaths of a centering meditation before a night of wild, dervish dancing and flirtatious banter.

    Did it work out the way you imagined it would?
    Not at all. I thought Kyoto would dry Tabu out, lightening it and taking the whole thing into a calmer space.

    Would you wear it again?
    No. I will try layering Tabu with something higher-pitched, greener, dryer. Tabu is a big teased out hairdo and I was looking to achieve the olfactory equivalent of the razor cut.
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