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View Poll Results: Who is the best house for male fragrances?

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  • Chanel

    22 14.38%
  • Creed

    54 35.29%
  • Christian Dior

    9 5.88%
  • Giorgio Armani

    2 1.31%
  • Gucci

    0 0%
  • Hermès

    9 5.88%
  • Guerlain

    12 7.84%
  • L'Artisan Parfumeur

    8 5.23%
  • Caron

    4 2.61%
  • Yves Saint Laurent

    33 21.57%
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    Quote Originally Posted by zztopp
    I agree on YSL's excellent offerings, but the fact that so many Guerlain and Chanel offerings aren't in their original formulations mean that they aren't masterpieces anymore ?

    The masterpiece designations are not simply my opinion. The opinions are shared by a wide variety of the world's top perfumers.

    ......

    In most cases the fragrance is still very good and and most likely worthy of masterpiece status. Often times the fragrance is attenutated to some degree but still smells similar. For example, Guerlain's Vetiver still smells extremely good but it's a mere shadow of what it was. All they have to do is substitute tree moss for oakmoss and the difference is profound. Egoïste and Antaeus are still excellent. Same goes for most all of them up there. Mainly they often just have a little less depth, etc.

    I wouldn't consider many of the YSL men's frags to be masterpieces but they've provided a lot of dynamic. On the women's side, Rive Gauche and Opium are definitely masterpieces.

    Scentemental will hopefully be able to shed more light on some of these reformulations in the near future.
    Last edited by pluran; 20th January 2007 at 10:59 AM.

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    Ummm... have we all forgotten about Aramis?
    (if already mentioned, I'll apologise in advance for being too lazy to read all responses)

    While I have no doubt that Creed would have blown Aramis away in votes, IMHO, any discussion of male fragrance houses should probably include Aramis.

    I wonder if this is a reflection of a fall from grace?
    Interestingly, I've noticed the Aramis section at my local department stores getting very, very small.
    Once upon a time, it took prime position in the sales counter.

    More competition these days I suppose... and I haven't noticed too many Basenoters being excited by their latest offerings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiver
    Now that I've heard from you all, it looks that I forgot Guerlain and Caron. The problem is that I cannot edit the poll.

    Perhaps a moderator should intervene and help out by replacing the Hugo Boss and Ralph Lauren houses with these.
    Done. No problem at all.

    I could as easily vote for Guerlain, Caron, L'Artisan, or Creed myself, but I pick Guerlain as the first among equals.
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    Great! Now all those Guerlain fans could start their voting, if it's not too late.

    Edit: I almost forgot...

    Quote Originally Posted by musky_monkey
    Ummm... have we all forgotten about Aramis?
    (if already mentioned, I'll apologise in advance for being too lazy to read all responses)

    While I have no doubt that Creed would have blown Aramis away in votes, IMHO, any discussion of male fragrance houses should probably include Aramis.

    I wonder if this is a reflection of a fall from grace?
    Interestingly, I've noticed the Aramis section at my local department stores getting very, very small.
    Once upon a time, it took prime position in the sales counter.

    More competition these days I suppose... and I haven't noticed too many Basenoters being excited by their latest offerings...
    I didn't feel the need to include Aramis since apart from Havana, their offerings have never really been too impressive. But one could also argue the same for Gucci (with Envy). This is a problem faced when making a poll with only ten top houses.
    Last edited by Shiver; 21st January 2007 at 01:41 AM.

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    Guerlain.

    Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiver
    I didn't feel the need to include Aramis since apart from Havana, their offerings have never really been too impressive...
    Tuscany, Devin, JHL, 900... not impressive?
    Such is the subjectivity of fragrance appreciation....

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    Three times I've gone back into this thread just to re-read and re-think about this post. Great post. Lots of good advice and insight here, and I agree with almost every judgment in it.

    Thanks for the great fun, Pluran.
    --Chris

    Quote Originally Posted by pluran
    Chanel

    Antaeus - Masterpiece under its original formula

    Égoïste - Masterpiece under its original formula

    Pour Monsieur - Masterpiece

    Tiffany for Men - An absolute masterpiece (created by Jacques Polge) which should have been a Chanel fragrance.

    Pour Monsieur Concentrée

    Platinum Égoïste

    Allure Homme

    Guerlain

    Derby - Masterpiece under its original formula

    Habit Rouge - Masterpiece under its original formula

    Vetiver
    - Masterpiece under its original formula

    Mouchoir de Monsieur - Masterpiece under its original formula

    Heritage

    L'Instant

    Yves Saint Laurent

    Rive Gauche Pour Homme -
    IMO not far from the women's which is an absolute masterpiece under its original formula.

    Kouros -
    A masterpiece of sorts

    M7 -
    Same

    Opium -
    Excellent

    Live Jazz -
    Excellent

    YSL Pour Homme -
    Excellent

    L'Homme-
    Haven't tried it

    Dior

    Eau Sauvage -
    Masterpiece

    Jules -
    Masterpiece

    Fahrenheit -
    Masterpiece

    Dior Homme - Masterpiece

    Eau Noire

    Hermès


    Bel Ami -
    Masterpiece

    Eau d'Hermes -
    Masterpiece

    Terre d'Hermes -
    Not far from masterpiece

    Equipage -
    A great one and worthy of masterpiece designation among many here

    Rocabar


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    The masterpiece designations above are not simply my opinion. The same opinions are also shared by a wide variety of the world's top perfumers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zztopp
    ...but the fact that so many Guerlain and Chanel offerings aren't in their original formulations mean that they aren't masterpieces anymore ?
    Nonsense! Methinks that's a Guerlain chip on your shoulder, there.
    Last edited by wicozani; 21st January 2007 at 04:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiver
    Great! Now all those Guerlain fans could start their voting, if it's not too late.

    Edit: I almost forgot...

    I didn't feel the need to include Aramis since apart from Havana, their offerings have never really been too impressive. But one could also argue the same for Gucci (with Envy). This is a problem faced when making a poll with only ten top houses.
    Huh? Aramis has quite a few good ones: Havana, Devin, 900, JHL, Tuscany, Portos, New West, Aramis. They're reputation may be suffering as of late because newer releases haven't wowed anyone (Life, Ice, Cool, and derivatives). Still, they have a place in history. Still, I think that Guerlain gets my vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluran
    Chanel

    Antaeus - Masterpiece under its original formula

    Égoïste - Masterpiece under its original formula

    Pour Monsieur - Masterpiece

    Tiffany for Men - An absolute masterpiece (created by Jacques Polge) which should have been a Chanel fragrance.

    Pour Monsieur Concentrée

    Platinum Égoïste

    Allure Homme

    Guerlain

    Derby - Masterpiece under its original formula

    Habit Rouge - Masterpiece under its original formula

    Vetiver
    - Masterpiece under its original formula

    Mouchoir de Monsieur - Masterpiece under its original formula

    Heritage

    L'Instant

    Yves Saint Laurent

    Rive Gauche Pour Homme -
    IMO not far from the women's which is an absolute masterpiece under its original formula.

    Kouros -
    A masterpiece of sorts

    M7 -
    Same

    Opium -
    Excellent

    Live Jazz -
    Excellent

    YSL Pour Homme -
    Excellent

    L'Homme-
    Haven't tried it

    Dior

    Eau Sauvage -
    Masterpiece

    Jules -
    Masterpiece

    Fahrenheit -
    Masterpiece

    Dior Homme - Masterpiece

    Eau Noire

    Hermès


    Bel Ami -
    Masterpiece

    Eau d'Hermes -
    Masterpiece

    Terre d'Hermes -
    Not far from masterpiece

    Equipage -
    A great one and worthy of masterpiece designation among many here

    Rocabar


    .......


    The masterpiece designations above are not simply my opinion. The same opinions are also shared by a wide variety of the world's top perfumers.


    I agree with nearly everything in this pluran except I really don't rate terre de hermes that highly. Great post, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robyogi
    Huh? Aramis has quite a few good ones: Havana, Devin, 900, JHL, Tuscany, Portos, New West, Aramis. They're reputation may be suffering as of late because newer releases haven't wowed anyone (Life, Ice, Cool, and derivatives). Still, they have a place in history. Still, I think that Guerlain gets my vote.
    I'm sorry if I did not phrase my sentence correctly. What it should have been was "...their latest offerings had never really been too impressive, with most of their better releases being discontinued." As I'm still quite new to Basenotes, I didn't know so many of you respected the discontinued frags. by Aramis.

    P.S. I'm however delighted to know that the recently added house of Guerlain got your vote.
    Last edited by Shiver; 21st January 2007 at 04:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hirch_duckfinder
    I agree with nearly everything in this pluran except I really don't rate terre de hermes that highly. Great post, thanks.
    Thanks hirch_duckfinder,

    I've always liked Terre d'Hermès, but after wearing it for ten days in the Mexican desert it became an entirely different animal. All of the subtle nuances revealed themselves and I was in awe. IMO, it must be worn in warm weather (80 f plus) in order to express itself properly. It relies heavily on your skin and a bit of sweat. It also loves nature as the name implies. I went through half a bottle last summer but have only worn it a couple of times since. I'll definitely be going through a lot of it when the temperatures move up. It was Buffalo_Gals who first sent me a sample. I'm glad she did.

    pluran
    Last edited by pluran; 21st January 2007 at 07:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robyogi
    Huh? Aramis has quite a few good ones: Havana, Devin, 900, JHL, Tuscany, Portos, New West, Aramis. They're reputation may be suffering as of late because newer releases haven't wowed anyone (Life, Ice, Cool, and derivatives). Still, they have a place in history. Still, I think that Guerlain gets my vote.
    robyogi,

    I hadn't even thought of Aramis (need more sleep). Many greats from them. Thanks for the reminder.

    pluran

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluran
    robyogi,

    I hadn't even thought of Aramis (need more sleep). Many greats from them. Thanks for the reminder.

    pluran
    Thanks...And I thank musky_monkey for the reminder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by robyogi
    Thanks...And I thank musky_monkey for the reminder!
    Shiver is right, their recent stuff hasn't excited too many Basenoters.
    I'd love to know if the modern Aramis pursuit of fragrance mediocrity is really profitable.
    Do the old-school classics still add to the bottom line?
    Perhaps the Aramis brass are running the company profitably, at the expense of fragrance innovation - which may be a long term disaster?

    Such a pity... [runs off to light a candle and assume the fetal position in the corner of the room...]

    Edit: oh yes, thanks Robyogi - always the gentleman.

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    ysl.... the best alongwith Guerlain

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    Good Lord - a six year old thread! Chanel and Dior share the top for me from this list. (385)
    Remember that while it is perfectly acceptable to criticize the content of a post - criticizing the poster is not.
    Mean spirited, nasty, snide, sarcastic, hateful, and rude individuals on Basenotes don't warrant or deserve other individuals' acknowledgement or respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    Good Lord - a six year old thread! Chanel and Dior share the top for me from this list. (385)
    You still posted..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony T View Post
    You still posted..
    Dior
    I see you did too even though it wasn't bumped by either of us.
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    why be so dramatic ?

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    Creed.

    Play nice you too! lol

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    YSL for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony T View Post
    why be so dramatic ?
    A site for men who love fragrance, and you don't want so dramatic? My friend we have *got* to talk.


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    I have to say Creed with their high quality compositions. Time may change my opinion but most houses are not pushing the envelope like they once did. Chanel comes to mind on starting to rest on their laurels.

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    No Bond No 9 on the poll?

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    Well somebody DID bump it and here we are....
    I think YSL still shade it despite their recent offerings. I guess the other two I would have put in the top three, Guerlain and Chanel, are guilty of uninspired recent work too.

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    Out of these; I'd say Dior

    I'm curious that Caron was one of the possibilities -- 5 or 6 masculines at most?

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