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    Default Is this a Ambergris?

    I found this on the beach. Can anybody tell me is this an Ambergris?

    If it is, how shall I store it? It's really wet, shall I dry it?

    Thanks.
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    Have You tried using a very hot needle to check if it melts?
    Hot needle test:
    1.Heat a needle and touch briefly to the surface of the item
    2.If ambergris, the surface will melt instantly; turning to an oily, molten black residue and a small puff of musky smelling smoke will be emitted.
    Does it smell nice?

    If yes - will you send me a gram or two? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuerlainJedi View Post
    Have You tried using a very hot needle to check if it melts?
    Hot needle test:
    1.Heat a needle and touch briefly to the surface of the item
    2.If ambergris, the surface will melt instantly; turning to an oily, molten black residue and a small puff of musky smelling smoke will be emitted.
    Does it smell nice?

    If yes - will you send me a gram or two? :P
    lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuerlainJedi View Post

    If yes - will you send me a gram or two? :P
    I do have some small pieces fall off from it. ;-P

    I tried the hot needle test when I got back home. But it was very wet, it seems the needle cooled down immediately when met the water on it.


    How shall I dry it? Some websites says don't put it under the sunlight. Shall I use a hair dryer?

    It smells very bad, like urine or public restroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xingtek View Post
    I do have some small pieces fall off from it. ;-P

    I tried the hot needle test when I got back home. But it was very wet, it seems the needle cooled down immediately when met the water on it.


    How shall I dry it? Some websites says don't put it under the sunlight. Shall I use a hair dryer?

    It smells very bad, like urine or public restroom.
    It sounds as though itís just poo ...
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    Currently it's too hard to see with all the seaweedy stuff on the outside. It isn't immediately screaming ambergris but there may be heaps of sea rubbish stuck on the outside.

    Does it float?
    Can you photograph any of the insides on the bits that broke off.

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    LOL That's a piece of horse shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMAR_420 View Post
    LOL That's a piece of horse shit
    LOL. You should post it on Ebay as "ultrarare" seahorse ambergris at $30/gm.

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    Yummy

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post
    Currently it's too hard to see with all the seaweedy stuff on the outside. It isn't immediately screaming ambergris but there may be heaps of sea rubbish stuck on the outside.

    Does it float?
    Can you photograph any of the insides on the bits that broke off.
    Yes, it floats.

    I am trying it dry it with the sun light, it's not totally dried yet, but the color is lighter.

    Here are more pictures:

    IMG_20150326_162916.jpg
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    Always hard to tell from only the outside. Ambergris takes many forms so don't let your hopes get too high. I'm afraid mostly the random finds are not.

    You need to try the hot needle test again a few times. Then if those give promising results. Then you need to break a section off to have a look at the inside structure and to smell it.

    I presume you've already read this and all the others online with google.

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    Here's dried horse poop


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    Quote Originally Posted by AMAR_420 View Post
    Here's dried horse poop
    I wonder if it would tincture well.... Indolic boozy hay notes with the grass giving a fermented touch of green galbanum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post
    I wonder if it would tincture well.... Indolic boozy hay notes with the grass giving a fermented touch of green galbanum.
    You might have to try this, as tincturing seems to be your hobby.

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    Default Re: Is this a Ambergris?

    I don't think that's ambergris, but I'm not an expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMAR_420 View Post
    You might have to try this, as tincturing seems to be your hobby.
    Eau de Dung

    ... I have tinctured cattle fodder for fun before now.... it is made of citrus rind waste and smells quite wonderful. I can't imagine it tastes very nice though. I didn't try that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post
    Eau de Dung
    A new British exclusive? Roja Dove would almost get jealous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMAR_420 View Post
    A new British exclusive? Roja Dove would almost get jealous.
    Lol... methinks he actually would indeed..... I seem to have specialised in animal end products of various descriptions..... it all smells darn fine to me and is of the very highest quality. I expect Mr Dove would very much like some of them. He is very welcome to visit me if he would like to choose some for his next exclusive perfume.

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    Hi there, a smell of urine is not exceptional, many brown pieces that are fresh from the sea can smell a little like urine (usually more like dung) and your comment that it smells like a public toilet is particularly interesting....as several pieces that I have found have had a fragrance like a mixture of urine and jeyes fluid (a strong disinfectant), so on balance either your piece has recently been in a sewer or it could very well be ambergris. It would be great if you could put up some hi definition pictures, another plus is the general shape of the piece and the depression apparent on the surface which is another strong indicator in the larger pieces. Don't keep it in the sun!!! wrap it in cotton and keep it away from animals!! When you have had it a few more days try the needle again and let us know the result.. Best of luck and here's hoping for a positive result

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    if its not ambergris, then what?

    Aeroplane jettison passenger poop?
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    Looks like a dead seasponge (with some of it's enviroments substrate) to me. It even has pores in it.
    http://www.google.pl/url?sa=i&rct=j&...27664175788304

    It probably smells very strong of dimethyl sulphide and iodine .
    And an interesting question: If a person is aknowledged with the smell of Ambroxan, Cetalox, Grisalva and Ollifac Ambergris T Ollifac can he be certain that he would not mistake ambergris with random floating poop? I find lot of "fake ambergris" chunks when on vacation, always left the pieces where they were because they didn't smell nice (or like my ambergris ACs). The last "fake ambergris" I found was a decomposing cuttlefish lol
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    For me, the most interesting thing about Ambergris is the variability of its scent, often there are the fine perfumistic notes present in varying degrees and after a while you can nearly be certain by the weight to volume/size ratio of a piece once its in your hand, however there are exceptions to this and some exceptions are glaring. Pieces can smell initially like rotting flesh(luckily just one small piece), like all manner of dung, the aforementioned antiseptic/disinfectant quality, the smell can be so strong that you may be unable to breath deeply of it(in one case like the most disgusting oily, fishy, almost dog turdy smell that was simply revolting.. that piece was also so soft that my fingers almost went through it...yuck!!!!!). The best advice though is never decide whether a piece is or isn't Ambergris on the beach as its scent can be very very faint, better to wait until you get to the car or home, where you can smell it in all its glory... or in your abject disappointment..

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    The pores, the pores!! now I see them, they didn't show up on the phone resolution... definitely looks like a sponge on the laptop.. unfortunately

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    If a piece can be broken off and the insides examined for their construction, then the confusion will more than likely be rapidly solved.

    The other off-putting thing is the wet aspect 'putting out' the hot needle test initially. Ambergris is highly waterproof and although it dries out, it isn't exactly soaked in the way a sea sponge might be. The needle test should work on a hard smooth part whether it is wet or not.

    This piece unfortunately does not look so very promising, but should be tested thoroughly before being dismissed entirely. I always hope as much as any seeker that these DO turn out to be good finds.

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    I'm on Team Poo

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