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    Due to my recent purchase of Idol de Lubin and my love for Havana, I started to think about creating a "piratey scent". While the afore mentioned frags are very good IMO and do make me think of the tropics in some ways, I am going to create my own conceptual pirate scent. Actually, I already have started this.

    While I am influenced by the Idole and Havana, my scent concept, based partly on what would Blackbeard's beard have wafted up to his nose, starts off with a heavy dose of rum( a must for all/most pirates I'm told) and spices ( from the pillaged meal from the night before) and perhaps the floral perfume of many a fair maiden would be faintly detectable ( have a couple in mind for this note) and of course some citrus would be there so the dirty dog could fend off scurvy. And the smell of smoke would be present on his clothes and mixed with musk on his skin. When your vessel is wooden, wood would be close to your snoot , as would leather from the crew and you. To tie it all together, a pirate is first a man of the sea and nothing says ocean like ambergris.

    So, what do you think. Any suggestions or comments are welcomed. This is in oil form now and I am tweaking it before adding alcohol. Once it is done, I will send out limited samples for feedback .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstrocovie
    Due to my recent purchase of Idol de Lubin and my love for Havana, I started to think about creating a "piratey scent". While the afore mentioned frags are very good IMO and do make me think of the tropics in some ways, I am going to create my own conceptual pirate scent. Actually, I already have started this.

    While I am influenced by the Idole and Havana, my scent concept, based partly on what would Blackbeard's beard have wafted up to his nose, starts off with a heavy dose of rum( a must for all/most pirates I'm told) and spices ( from the pillaged meal from the night before) and perhaps the floral perfume of many a fair maiden would be faintly detectable ( have a couple in mind for this note) and of course some citrus would be there so the dirty dog could fend off scurvy. And the smell of smoke would be present on his clothes and mixed with musk on his skin. When your vessel is wooden, wood would be close to your snoot , as would leather from the crew and you. To tie it all together, a pirate is first a man of the sea and nothing says ocean like ambergris.

    So, what do you think. Any suggestions or comments are welcomed. This is in oil form now and I am tweaking it before adding alcohol. Once it is done, I will send out limited samples for feedback .
    My scent glands were beginning to drool just reading this post! Now I have a lemming for a scent that doesn't exist!

    I think the musk needs to be raw an animalic like SL MKK, AL Kama Xtreme or Nemat Musk Supreme.

    Even though I abhor aquatic blends I do think that there needs to be a touch of briny salt to the blend. Not aquatic ozonic nor watery floral but deep green brine...

    The citrus should be lime rather than lemon.

    A touch of vetiver and tobacco may work along with the leather & spice also.

    Good Luck!

    And put my name down for a sample please!
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    Limes did come to mind first. Must make variations/ changes to this formulation. The musk I'm using is animallic indeed, plus the ambergris is real not synthetic which means sea animals.

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    Most or all of these ingredients have already been mentioned in this thread, but every good Pirate scent needs:

    Lime
    Patchouli
    Spiced Rum or some kind of Rum
    Ambergris
    Musk
    Salty Sea note

    and, if possible, a leather note, the darker the better.

    The other thing to consider is, which wood notes resemble the woods used to make a Pirate ship.
    Last edited by yepyep; 1st March 2007 at 08:16 PM.

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    I asked myself the same question on what kind of wood

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    Cool! Maybe some of the other do-it-yourself'ers can give you some ideas on which kinds of woods resemble the smell of the woods they would have used to make pirate ships. Any ideas, anybody?

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    This info isn't easy to find. I mean , I found old shipyard museums, progression articles on from wood to steel....sail to steam, restoration projects and NONE of them say what kind of wood was used. But I did find that the pins used were made of oak so maybe the rest was also. Oak is a hardwood and would work for shipbuilding and can be bent if steamed and resins were used for water proofing and keeping out parasites.

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    I feel that oak is definitely a good call or maybe cedar. But I also think that it needs to quite a dark, smokey almost scorched oak due to the birch or bitumen (?) tar used to seal the boat and keep it watertight. Maybe not too dark as I am sure the scent would disperse with time and many voyages but a touch may add interest all the same...
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    Quote Originally Posted by moondeva
    I feel that oak is definitely a good call or maybe cedar. But I also think that it needs to quite a dark, smokey almost scorched oak due to the birch or bitumen (?) tar used to seal the boat and keep it watertight. Maybe not too dark as I am sure the scent would disperse with time and many voyages but a touch may add interest all the same...
    You are so on it. I used cade, it works a dual purpose it's smokiness is picked up by the wood and musks. I reformulated this morning( #2), oak wood oil doesn't seem to exist, so I came up with a nice blend using sandal co2 , buddah and a touch of oak moss- it smells like old wood planks. I also ran out and got lime eo and mixed it with gris and blk pepper- salty water.

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    I think that getting abit of (real) cognac into the fragrance would make wonders for a scent like this.

    one question:
    Does it have to be pleasant? or are we going L'Etat libre d'Orange?

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    Quote Originally Posted by castorpollux
    I think that getting abit of (real) cognac into the fragrance would make wonders for a scent like this.

    one question:
    Does it have to be pleasant? or are we going L'Etat libre d'Orange?
    Or maybe a bit of real rum. As far as being pleasant, I would say "yes", but that is a subjective question. I have now 3 variations going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstrocovie
    Or maybe a bit of real rum. As far as being pleasant, I would say "yes", but that is a subjective question. I have now 3 variations going.
    I'm intrigued...
    Perhaps, an oaken note, and some real ambergris as well, for more atmosphere.

    Pirate- you're speaking my language here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chayaruchama
    I'm intrigued...
    Perhaps, an oaken note, and some real ambergris as well, for more atmosphere.

    Pirate- you're speaking my language here.
    Are ye a pirate lass? The oaken be a hard note to conjure, but alas, the gris be the real treasure of the sea. LOL . How's that for a little atmosphere?
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    Woohooo...picked up an absolute today that i think is going to make this mix.......briny baby.
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    Have there been any new developments with this project? It's a great idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by adoblivione View Post
    Have there been any new developments with this project? It's a great idea!
    I have a couple of variations going, dumped a couple more and am close to being satisfied enough to let others try it. I think I am leaning toward something that is more pleasant smelling than what pirates actually smelled like or maybe something in between.Boozey, briny, smokey, spicey, slightly sweet leather and wood based is what I've almost got. Oh, and with the leather there is a muskieness of course. Samples will be forthcoming after I complete one, maybe two more variations. Thinking of using agarwood/oud in one of them.

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    Arrrgh maties, I say Creed Erolfa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maz24 View Post
    Arrrgh maties, I say Creed Erolfa!
    Me thinks ye smell too pretty to be on me ship! lol . The dawgs and vermin upon me vessel smell of pillage and plunder, sea and smoke, not the admiral of a royal navy vessel...... arghhh!! To the plank with ye and leave ye tailored linens where ye stand!!.... on the SS DIY
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    IT'S DONE!.......FINALLY!

    I'm satisfied enough with a mix to let it be sampled.

    Here is the pyramid:

    Top notes: Bay rum, Green mandarine, Neroli, Lime

    Middle notes: Jasmine, Iris, Violet leaf, Fucus, Muguet

    Base notes: Patchouli, Agarwood, Buddahwood, Ambergris, Castoreum, Costus

    It is spicy, a bit briny and green , soft leather and a bit funky with a deep woody dry down.

    Thought I would call it Doubloon. Adding alcohol today and it will be ready in a week's time. 20% is the strength.
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    The description sounds great, and the basenotes seem like they are perfect for keeping this from getting too pretty to be piratey

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstrocovie View Post
    IT'S DONE!.......FINALLY!

    I'm satisfied enough with a mix to let it be sampled.

    Here is the pyramid:

    Top notes: Bay rum, Green mandarine, Neroli, Lime

    Middle notes: Jasmine, Iris, Violet leaf, Fucus, Muguet

    Base notes: Patchouli, Agarwood, Buddahwood, Ambergris, Castoreum, Costus

    It is spicy, a bit briny and green , soft leather and a bit funky with a deep woody dry down.

    Thought I would call it Doubloon. Adding alcohol today and it will be ready in a week's time. 20% is the strength.
    Oh my gosh! I need some of this!! That basenote accord sounds to die for... me want now!!!

    PS: What is 'Fucus' by the way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moondeva View Post
    Oh my gosh! I need some of this!! That basenote accord sounds to die for... me want now!!!

    PS: What is 'Fucus' by the way?
    'Fucus' is what it sounds like when someone with a thick eastern European accent says 'Focus'.

    Actually, it's a kind of brown seaweed, but I couldn't resist the joke. And I'm not sure it's even pronounced the way I was thinking...

    EDIT: Forgot to comment on the notes! This sounds really interesting. I can't even begin to imagine what it'll be like in person... so it'll be an adventure!
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    Anyone else want to try a sample? They are very limited , as I only produced 30 ml of what I'm calling "Doubloon" .

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    Put me down for a sample! IM me with the details.

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    I got my sample of Doubloon in the mail today, after I'd already applied my frag du jour. I'll be able to give it a proper test tomorrow, and I'm planning to wear it to work to see what others have to say.

    My first impressions smelling it from the vial: strong but pleasant. The woody and floral notes overwhelm all of the more subtle ones at this point. I'm sure a little dab will do the trick, and it'll open up more when I try it out tomorrow.

    So far so good!

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    WOW!

    Mstrocovie, I will pm with my details.

    This blend sounds AMAZING; I'm wearing something with a strong cumin note in it today and it has me feeling pretty gamey. When I happened upon this post I thought it was destiny, to be sure.

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    That really is spicy!

    I was afraid at first that the patchouli would be overpowering, just based on smelling it in the vial. I was quite wrong.

    The first thing that hit me when I put it on was the spiciness. It smelled like... I guess sort of like nutmeg or cinnamon? It combined very nicely with the florals and woods. There's a distinct sweetness to it as well, but it's far from feminine. The drydown is indeed woody, and very pleasant.

    There are only two things that disappointed me. Firstly, I didn't detect the lime accord. I think a bit more citrus in the opening would be really interesting.

    Secondly, it doesn't seem to have a whole lot of longevity. I can still smell it on my wrists two hours after application, but I don't catch a whiff of it without making an effort at this point. Maybe it's got something to do with all the natural oils in it rather than synthetics, or maybe it's because I didn't use enough.

    I'm going to be re-applying it when I get home tonight for a second round... partly because I want to see if a more liberal dose will hold out longer, but mostly because I really like it! You've scored a hit with me, that's for sure.

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    First, thank you for being honest. Part of the reason this took as long as it did was that I had issues upholding the lime note without having the whole thing be citrusy. The spiciness is the agarwood/ patchouli/ bay combo. I ordered some synthetics yesterday and am going to use some in the next formulation of this. I will also use some glycerine to help with longevity issues. I like the concept, so I will keep trying to make it better. Thanks for the feedback and I will keep in touch.

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    Me Want Your Treasure , Give Me It, Or I"m A Comin After Ya

    Vijay"Maisonstinky"

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    To follow up... the second time around I was able to pick up the citrus in the top notes. Very awesome. I look forward to seeing where you go with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maisonstinky View Post
    Me Want Your Treasure , Give Me It, Or I"m A Comin After Ya

    ARRR!!! If it ain't me long lost matey. Thought we lost ye fer good chasin' a lassie smellin of Jasmine full into the black water swamp. Welcome aboard ya scurvy dawg! What be mine be yours........ ARRRR!!!!

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