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    Default help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9 or serge lutens?

    i've decided that i need (ok, i want) another fragrance because most of what i have is light and floral (lots of gardenia notes) and am looking for something a little sexier, a little spicier maybe, a little darker. i live in nyc so i was thinking of either going to l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9. i'm not exactly sure how to describe what it is that i'm going for, but the fragrances that really interested me so far (on paper) are l'artisan's piment brulant and bond's new haarlem and chinatown. between the two, which perfume house tends to have fragrances with better staying power? any recommendations on particular scents? thanks!

    edit: now thinking of adding serge lutens into the mix . . .
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    Default Re: help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9?

    Lasting power depends on your skin! To make them last longer, please apply the scents on top on the unscented lotion and behind your knees. Out of L'Artisan and Bond #9, there are some fragrances that last longer than others, and my skin/hair tend to "capture" most of the scents, but, to tell you the whole thing about "darker and sexier" -- go for Lutens!


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    Default Re: help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9?

    welcome, sark!

    most people say that bond no. 9 has better staying power than l'artisan, but i have no problem with l'artisan's staying power. they're all expensive, the bonds, i think, more than l'artisan, but chinatown and new haarlem are very distinctive frags - there's not a lot like them (except rochas man, which is supposed to smell like NH, though i've not tried it). all three of the ones you're interested in are nice. since you live in new york, you could test all three in the same day! aedes de venustas on christopher street carries l'artisan, and it's a short walk east over to bond street to test the bonds.

    happy sniffing, and let us know what you end up trying/buying.
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    Default Re: help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9?

    I'm biased towards my winter favorite, New Haarlem. Love the way it smells on me and the women I've known who've worn it. Chinatown is also deadsexy on a woman. Test both (and others) and see which one really makes you feel it.

    In case you haven't, try Tea for Two by L'Artisan.

    For me, Bond's EDPs have a little better staying power than most L'Artisan fragrances I have tested.

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    Default Re: help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9?

    thanks for all the responses. do you think you can wear new haarlem year round (at night at least) or only in colder months? i was also looking into frederic malle's musc ravageur if anyone has any thoughts on that one . . .

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    Musc Ravageur is more a cold season perfume, you re not going to wear it in the summer in New York but it 's a million times a more precious and beautiful perfume than New Haarlem (although both created by Maurice Roucel).

    I m not a big fan of l 'Artisan nor Bond; if you want something extremely sexy for the summer you must go for Fleurs d 'Oranger by Serge Lutens but I must warn you it drives guys crazy in the city by hot weather!
    YOu can also give a chance to Angelique Noire by Guerlain, a sexy dark perfume (only at Bergdorf & Goodman), I wear Rose Barbare from same Guerlain exclusive range, very sexy too but not as dark.

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    Welcome Sark!! You and Quinpus ought to hook up for a girls' day on the town!! Go stark raving bonkers storming Aedes and Bond and sniffing exuberantly and going bankrupt together!! :bounce:

    Sigh.

    On this blonde (fair, dry skin - also " of a certain age") living on the Carolina Coast LAP's for the most part are more apt to be fleeting. Adore Chinatown and also Broadway Nites and tend to ignore winter v. summer, day v. nights kinds of criteria. But only your nose and your bod will tell you what's right for you. It's a wonderful journey and you have lots of traveling companions here on BaseNotes - keep us informed!! :bounce:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasmin de Grasse View Post
    Musc Ravageur is more a cold season perfume, you re not going to wear it in the summer in New York but it 's a million times a more precious and beautiful perfume than New Haarlem (although both created by Maurice Roucel).

    I m not a big fan of l 'Artisan nor Bond; if you want something extremely sexy for the summer you must go for Fleurs d 'Oranger by Serge Lutens but I must warn you it drives guys crazy in the city by hot weather!
    YOu can also give a chance to Angelique Noire by Guerlain, a sexy dark perfume (only at Bergdorf & Goodman), I wear Rose Barbare from same Guerlain exclusive range, very sexy too but not as dark.
    that's so funny - i actually tried out the lutens fleurs d'oranger at barneys last week and absolutely loved it on a sampling stick (or whatever you call those things) but wasn't crazy about it on me - it was a cold day though so perhaps i need to retry it when the weather warms up, which it looks like it's starting to!

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    welllll I personally find Harlem very interesting it starts a little heavy but i love the dry down very sexy- i think it would translate both cold and hot weather- some of my gal pals smell great in Chinatown it doesn't work for me- and i think Bond lasts longer L'Artisan has some nice scents but they do not last on me.Hope this helps.
    You could also try Tobacco Carmel by Fresh.

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    Default Re: help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9?

    Hi Sark! Welcome!

    L'Artisan and Bond are two of my favorite lines, so this is a tough question for me. Certain scents in both lines have extraordinarily good lasting power for me. Bleecker Street is enticing and seductive. I like it on me, and I love it on my husband (this is how I feel about Musc Ravageur as well). I've experienced positive comments from complete strangers on Bleecker. Lasting power is fabulous - be careful not to overapply! The bottle is so beautiful. In my experiences at Bond counters and boutiques, it seems like everyone "oohs" and "aahs" over this bottle.

    West Side is one of the "darker" fragrances, and it really lasts. The first time I wore this, in my excitement, I oversprayed. I went to a hockey game and I think everyone in the Honda Center could smell me. But this is gorgeous - This one has a beautiful bottle, as well.


    Have you tried So New York? It has a coffee note, but it's lighter than New Haarlem, so it may be easier to wear in humid, hot weather. It's not "dark" to me, though. In fact, with the possible exception of Nuits de Noho, which is more "elegant" than dark to me, Bond doesn't have anything all that dark?

    You may like Bryant Park, too. It's not "dark" but it's surprisingly edgy. It's much more complex and unusual that it sounds when you read the notes. It's a good one for summer nights.

    At L'Artisan you may want to try Mûre et Musc Extrême, Jour de Fête, Safran Troublant, Dzing!, Voleur de Roses, L'eau d'Ambre and Bois Farine.

    Not a L'Artisan or Bond, but I recommend trying T Takashimaya (at Tak), and Anné Pliska. You can get samples of Anné Pliska from Luckyscent.com. Both are dark, sexy, and mysterious like Musc Ravageur, but have more amber.

    Let us know what you choose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sark View Post
    that's so funny - i actually tried out the lutens fleurs d'oranger at barneys last week and absolutely loved it on a sampling stick (or whatever you call those things) but wasn't crazy about it on me - it was a cold day though so perhaps i need to retry it when the weather warms up, which it looks like it's starting to!
    I never wear Fleurs d 'Oranger in the winter, it stays harsh on the skin and never quite develops and blooms to more sensual stages. from my experience, the warmer, the hotter, the more humid the weather is the more beautiful Fleurs d 'Oranger is.

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    That was an interesting review Tovah. I love Bonds and L'artisan's, but L'artisan's don't seem to last long on me.

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    i can't wait to go try everything out at bond!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sark View Post
    i can't wait to go try everything out at bond!
    Hi Sark,
    Let us know how you fare.

    I just spent a lunch hour at the Bond counter over here. We don't quite have the selection that the big NYC department stores have, but my favorites are (no order):

    Scent of Peace
    Chinatown
    Nuit de Noho
    Broadway Nights

    Some of the lighter ones that I like are:

    Bleeker Street
    Little Italy

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    Default Re: help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9?

    so i finally got over to bond and got samples of a whole bunch of scents. i loved new haarlem on the paper, but on me it seemed to turn a bit too bitter - celery came to mind, which is weird, but maybe i'll give it another shot. i'm wearing so new york now, which i think i'm liking a lot - might be a winner. it's not dark at all, but it does seem kind of sexy, in a lighter way. i've also got samples of little italy and scent of peace that might be interesting layered over nh and so ny . . . plus, i still have to try out chinatown! so many scents . . .
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    any opinions of serge lutens chergui or any other scents that seem to fall into the sexy/unique category? i'm looking for something that's sexy not in an overt way, but in a more understated, kind of cool/hip way, if that makes sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sark View Post
    i'm looking for something that's sexy not in an overt way, but in a more understated, kind of cool/hip way, if that makes sense?
    I just discovered the new Rousse by Serge Lutens and reading your posts I have a feeling this is really for you, it 's sexy, elegant but also profound, enigmatic and intriguing in an understated way.
    as far as I m concerned this is my next purchase.
    I love Fleurs d 'Oranger because it 's very sexy and men love it but it has a lot of depth and personality too.
    I ve been wearing Rose Barbare a lot this winter but I don 't think I ll get a second bottle next year, no matter how sexy and many compliments it gets me, I find it too generic and I just got bored with it.
    I had a sample of Chelsea Flowers too last year, I felt the same way, for such an expensive fragrance I thought it was sexy and feminine but I expected more than that for an exclusive niche.
    Four years later Fleurs d 'Oranger is still a sexy winner for me in the summer.
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    i think i'm in love . . . . with serge lutens! as soon as i began trying these out at barney's, i knew that i much preferred them over the bonds. i liked chergui a lot, and the lasting power was unbelievable, but i think it dries down a bit too sweet on me. daim blond, on the other hand, was incredible from start to finish - full bottle worthy! can't wait to try out the rest of the line . . . and i still really do want to try musc ravageur, which smelled great on a test strip . . .

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    I agree with you, unfortunately none of the Bond No 9 scents thrilled me at all, the concept could have been so much better provided they had had fragrances with more character and personality which you find more in the Lutens and Malle lines, and also a concept that was more authentic about New York City and less "touristic".
    New York it 's also Roosevelt Ave in Queens, the most ethnic ave in the whole world!! Bryant Park, the fashion week thing... is just another "Eiffel Tower" souvenir like scent. It 's just midtown, totally desertic after business hours, really poor and easy concept, New Yor City really deserved better.

    I love Musc Ravageur, I wear it by cold weather better, the first time I ever tried it at Barney 's it was three years ago in the midst of summer heat LOL
    btw, Aedes will have Rousse in April.
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    Default Re: help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9 or serge lutens?

    Maybe it's nostalgia for me, because I moved from NY to CA in 1990, but
    I think a lot of Bond's fragrances seem to be aimed more at "memories" than just tourism. For example, the scent of Chelsea Flowers cannot be representative of the current construction haven that is Chelsea - but it can be a evocative of the old Chelsea flower shops that have been replaced by expensive real estate. Others, such as Broadway Nite, Little Italy, Fire Island, seem aimed more at "memories" than the current personalities of the neighborhoods.

    Here in Metro LA, marketing to residents and tourists relies heavily on the fabled glamor of Hollywood, the rebellious mystique of Venice, the sexiness of Malibu, etc., but the actual "neighborhoods" these days are really made up of new construction near places made famous in the past.

    To me, the Bond fragrances do have character, but I agree that some seem like they were made quickly to fill a deadline. However, I think that because there are so many fragrances in the line, people go into the boutiques or up to the counters, and get overwhelmed because they try to sample them all at once, and after awhile the scents blur together. After falling for West Side, I was inspired to go back and give older Bond fragrances a serious try, which including wearing them to experience their development. I've changed my mind about many of them, I absolutely love a few. There's a lot more to them than I could tell by just sniffing. Even the little tester bottles didn't really give me a good feel for the scents - I had to spray them and wear them.

    But, anyways, that's just my opinion. I could be way off in my response to the marketing because I don't live in NY, and I respond to the current NY through my memories.

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    everybody has their own perceptions on that. Memories for my boyfriend a born and raised New Yorker is Flushing, same for one of my best friend, her most beautiful memories are in Sunnyside, where you have today over 130 different nationalities and these people contribute so much to this city.
    If you ever saw the movie Fried Green Tomatoes... that 's the environment she was raised in. My dear memories are the East Village in the early 90's when it was still a mix of struggling artists and hispanics with rents that were ten times cheaper than it is today and white people who wouldnt dare going beyond avenue A.

    I think Bond did Fire Island and East Hampton scents too, well nice but what about Coney Island? OK it 's less glamourous and high class today but in terms of History it 's a million times more beautiful and authentic than "Fire Island". Even my gay friend always boycotts this gay ghetto in the summer!

    You know it 's like they d do the same concept in Paris and would only come up with scents like "Tour Effeil", "La Concorde" and "Parc Monceau". That would be extremely lame and boring "postcard" fragrances.

    That said I really like Chelsea Flowers, the fragrance not the concept since it doesn 't really remind me Chelsea whatsover but it smells really nice. I had a large sample last year that I got at the boutique but I thought it was so expensive...maybe I ll fall for it this year.

    I just wish Bond 's concept was more authentic and less touristic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasmin de Grasse View Post
    I never wear Fleurs d 'Oranger in the winter, it stays harsh on the skin and never quite develops and blooms to more sensual stages. from my experience, the warmer, the hotter, the more humid the weather is the more beautiful Fleurs d 'Oranger is.
    I have to concur with jasmin de grasse the fleurs d'oranger is the fragrance that does it for me when my girlfriend wears it especially summertime ,most of serge lutens can be worn by either sex but this one just screams WOMAN to me.

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    This is a great thread and I love reading everyone's impressions here.

    My two cents are:

    L'artisan Voleur de Roses, and Safran Troublant

    Bond no 9 West Side

    Serge....serge, serge....sigh....
    Daim Blond - it sounds like you really responded to that one...
    Ambre Sultan...sultry and sexy
    "Like a lobster with a pearl in its claw, the beet held the jasmine firmly without crushing or obscuring it. Beet lifted jasmine, the way a bullnecked partner lifts a ballerina, and the pair came on stage on citron's fluty cue. As if jasmine were a collection of beautiful paintings, beet hung it in the galleries of the nose, insured it against fire or theft, threw a party to celebrate it. Citron mailed the invitations." Jitterbug Perfume by Tom Robbins p. 189

    What I am loving right now: Shalimar vintage extrait, Chanel Bois des Iles, Chanel no. 22, Le Labo Iris 39, Guerlain Iris Ganache

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    Default Re: help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9 or serge lutens?

    I think Chelsea Flowers is supposed to remind one of Chelsea Market....

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    Quote Originally Posted by theminx View Post
    I think Chelsea Flowers is supposed to remind one of Chelsea Market....
    Chelsea Market? it 's a huge building with food shops inside, smells like fish and meat lol, it 's not far from the (ex) meat market actually.
    Chelsea is such a diverse community of people, a mega mecca of healthy proud gay men but also a lot of housing projects ethnic people mostly hispanics, art galeries and the famous Chelsea Hotel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fenton_t_fox View Post
    I have to concur with jasmin de grasse the fleurs d'oranger is the fragrance that does it for me when my girlfriend wears it especially summertime ,most of serge lutens can be worn by either sex but this one just screams WOMAN to me.
    I m not surprised fleurs d 'oranger has become Lutens most successful best-seller. I think it is exactly what many guys want women to smell like...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasmin de Grasse View Post
    everybody has their own perceptions on that. Memories for my boyfriend a born and raised New Yorker is Flushing,
    I think Bond did Fire Island and East Hampton scents too, well nice but what about Coney Island? I just wish Bond 's concept was more authentic and less touristic.
    I agree, but I don't know how well the scent of Spuyten Duyvil would sell in an international market, LOL! (I often wonder how many people who wear Champs Elysees or Rive Gauche, etc. know they are named for neighborhoods.) Some of the names of NY could be funny as perfumes...Meatpacking District...Hell's Kitchen... Or how about DUMBO? tee hee...

    But seriously, I know exactly what you're saying. The concept behind the fragrances is to sell traditional, idealized ideas about New York, in much the same way that Hollywood sells itself...and that just not the way New Yorkers work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tovah View Post
    I agree, but I don't know how well the scent of Spuyten Duyvil would sell in an international market, LOL! (I often wonder how many people who wear Champs Elysees or Rive Gauche, etc. know they are named for neighborhoods.) Some of the names of NY could be funny as perfumes...Meatpacking District...Hell's Kitchen... Or how about DUMBO? tee hee...

    But seriously, I know exactly what you're saying. The concept behind the fragrances is to sell traditional, idealized ideas about New York, in much the same way that Hollywood sells itself...and that just not the way New Yorkers work.
    yes I understand but you know New York is not Paris. New York it 's the energy and the diversity of people that makes it unique!
    even Hell 's Kitchen, the Meatpacking District , the East Village have lost a little of their identities over the years, New York it 's not Akron either, it has changed so much.
    If I was working on this project I would focus more on the diversity concept than traditional "neigborhood" concept. I would launch a Chelsea scent that smells like poppers coming in a bottle honoring Gay Pride flag colors, a Coney Island scent that smells like cotton candy, I mean I d be so so so more creative than what they ve been doing and these would sell like crazy!

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    Default Re: help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9 or serge lutens?

    Shouldn't the Coney Island scent smell like Nathan's Hot Dogs?

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    so i went ahead and purchased daim blond, b/c it really was love at first, second, third, (and on) sniff but, i've been wearing my sample of so new york, and i think i might be falling for this one too. it's got the right amount of sweetness, without being overpowering, and just seems somehow comforting to me. i've never been a gourmand lover, but this one might just change my mind. i agree that bond seems to have a more "touristy" understanding of nyc, but as a native, i'm not sure i care as long as the fragrances smell good on me. so, like all things, some will be winners, and others, well, not.
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    oh, and btw, i did read in an interview that they're working on fragrances for brooklyn neighborhoods, coney island and spanish harlem . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiscreet View Post
    Shouldn't the Coney Island scent smell like Nathan's Hot Dogs?
    Coney Island has a lot of history, it was run down for a lot of years but it s coming back, from what i heard they ve renovated and made it more hype than it used to.
    but yes it s popular and so what, I m sorry but Bryant Park it s a boring concept or at least they should have called it Fashion Week which would have been more exciting since the rest of the year nothing s going on there and that after business hours it s an empty ghost area because nobody lives by Bryant Park.
    besides Central Park, The Chrysler Bldg and the Statue of Liberty (which they havent done) the historical neighborhood concept doesn t work for a city like New York like it does for Paris. You can do Parc Monceau or Parc Montsouris in Paris, that would be rather lame too and I m sure they are more exciting things about Paris than "pretty" parks but still it would work more.

    If they dont see that New York it 's all about the diversity of people and the 24/7 energy out there then they don 't understand anything about this city.
    again it 's a touristic concept and besides Upper East side clientele I doubt average new yorkers from all walks of life relate to Bond s concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sark View Post
    so i went ahead and purchased daim blond, b/c it really was love at first, second, third, (and on) sniff but, i've been wearing my sample of so new york, and i think i might be falling for this one too. it's got the right amount of sweetness, without being overpowering, and just seems somehow comforting to me. i've never been a gourmand lover, but this one might just change my mind. i agree that bond seems to have a more "touristy" understanding of nyc, but as a native, i'm not sure i care as long as the fragrances smell good on me. so, like all things, some will be winners, and others, well, not.
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    oh, and btw, i did read in an interview that they're working on fragrances for brooklyn neighborhoods, coney island and spanish harlem . . .

    thats great news then, really glad they re doing Coney Island! Spanish Harlem, finally something hispanic for a city that has half of its population spanish, that was long overdue lol

    so you fell for Daim Blond? that s great.
    what so new york smells like? I was at the boutique last year and after trying many scents that didnt thrill me I thought Chelsea Flowers was really nice but also realised "generic" so I only got a large sample. I may fall for Chelsea Flowers and buy it, I really like even though it 's not a masterpiece perfume and that it s overpriced, I like it the way it is.
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    Default Re: help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9 or serge lutens?

    so new york: (from beautycafe.com)

    "So New York is a Chocolate fantasy.
    It starts out with a fruity scent of bergamot and plum (as in plum pudding).
    Then come two unique new accords: bittersweet espresso, and a seductive warm milk accord.
    Patchouli, lily of the valley, peony, musk and precious woods add to the grown-up flavor.
    Notes of Mirabelle, Espresso Accord, Cocoa Powder"

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    Default Re: help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9 or serge lutens?

    Sark - Congrats on the Daim Blond! When you said you wanted something sexy, you meant sexy, LOL! Gorgeous choice.

    So New York is a comfort scent for me, too. I really enjoy it.

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    how many sprays of daim blond would you recommend for good sillage/lasting power. i don't want to be wasteful or overpowering, but i also don't want to lose the scent after 10 mins . . .

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    Daim Blond is a skin scent, it 's not a sillage perfume but like many Lutens it starts strong to evolve soft and discreet.
    what a great suede scent! the most ladylike leather perfume, a contemporary vision of Audrey Hepburn 's class and elegance.

    two sprays between your breast and one or two by the nape of your head and you re all done!
    Last edited by Jasmin de Grasse; 1st April 2007 at 08:47 PM.

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    Default Re: help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9 or serge lutens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasmin de Grasse View Post
    Daim Blond is a skin scent, it 's not a sillage perfume but like many Lutens it starts strong to evolve soft and discreet.
    what a great suede scent! the most ladylike leather perfume, a contemporary vision of Audrey Hepburn 's class and elegance.

    two sprays between your breast and one or two by the nape of your head and you re all done!
    interesting - so you wouldn't spray it on the inside of your wrists?

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    Default Re: help! l'artisan parfumeur or bond no. 9 or serge lutens?

    Quote Originally Posted by sark View Post
    interesting - so you wouldn't spray it on the inside of your wrists?
    yes I would but Im not big on spraying wrists, I like cleavage, nape and the inside arms better. I think theres no rules to it, it 's very personal. if you re afraid to spray too much all at once but you still want to have a decent sillage throughout the day, discreetly reapply twice or three times, actually that 's what I usually do.

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