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    Default Designer Houses: Best and Worst

    What are your choices for best and worst men's designer houses?

    Mine are:
    Best: Bulgari, Christian Dior, Gucci, Hermes.
    Worst: Calvin Klein, Kenneth Cole, Tommy Hilfiger.

    List as many as you want!
    Last edited by Shiver; 28th March 2007 at 07:15 PM. Reason: Removed YSL after reconsideration.

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    BEST: YSL, Gucci, Chanel, Dior ( Guerlain is the very best but I'm not sure if I should included in this "designer house" category)!!!

    Worst: Hugo Boss, Armani, Hilfiger...
    Last edited by innamoramento; 28th March 2007 at 06:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiver View Post
    What are your choices for best and worst men's designer houses?

    Mine are:
    Best: Bulgari, Christian Dior, Gucci, Hermes.
    Worst: Calvin Klein, Kenneth Cole, Tommy Hilfiger, YSL.

    List as many as you want!

    It hurts my heart to see YSL getting lumped together with CK, KC and TH.
    Mine are:
    Best: YSL, Christian Dior, Hermes, Chanel. Mugler too if they had more male products.
    Worst: BOSS, hands down. Not one really interesting scent.

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    Best....

    YSL
    Chanel
    Gucci
    Calvin Klein
    Cacharel



    Worst....

    Armani
    Paco Rabanne
    Adidas
    Joop
    Diesel

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    I'll be nice and not do a worst...

    Best:
    Chanel
    YSL
    Lauder/Aramis
    Dior

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    [QUOTE=fakepurseninja;1003642]It hurts my heart to see YSL getting lumped together with CK, KC and TH.

    Indeed! I'm in pain, too!

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    YSL? Worst? Whatever rocks your boat, guys !

    Chanel is pretty bad at male fragrances (Antaeus is their prime frag - no, I dont like PM, and Allure is mediocre at best).

    Caron is pretty good too, but their male fragrance library is quite small (4 fragrances, is it?).

    I am 40-60 on Dior.

    Hermes might be the next best after YSL and Caron.

    Guerlain has some top offerings as well.

    I dont care much for CK, Gucci, Versace, Tommy, Hugo etc.
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    I hate the smell of several of YSL top fragrances - Kouros and it's many descendents and M7, hence the reason it was on the worst list. After reading your replies, I've realized that so many members (with more scent knowledge than me) really respect this house and it's frags.

    I thought it would be best to simply remove YSL from the list.
    Last edited by Shiver; 28th March 2007 at 07:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zztopp View Post
    Chanel is pretty bad at male fragrances (Antaeus is their prime frag - no, I dont like PM, and Allure is mediocre at best).
    When you say PM, do you mean the 1955 or the new PMC? The 1955 non-concentree PM was the only Chanel for men that was developed during Coco Chanel's life. I like it, but don't really like PMC.

    (which is hard because only PMC seems to be distributed in the US. I had to order from the UK to get the original version)

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    Best Houses:

    Burberry (Come on, for a designer house, they've got some great colognes)
    YSL
    Chanel (I simply love Egoiste, PMC, and Antaeus)
    Gucci (Just for Envy)
    Dior

    Poor Houses:

    Tommy Hilfiger
    ... That's it.
    - Rich
    As always, disregard most of what I say. It's not worth your heart health to actually worry about what a 23 year old guy from Kansas thinks. Even if he is really ridiculously good looking.

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    Best: Bulgari
    Worst: Jean Paul Gaultier

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    Top 5:
    YSL (with the exception of L'Homme)
    Burberry (well-crafted scents)
    Dior (ditto)
    Hermes (them too)
    Thierry Mugler (surprised that no one has mentioned them)

    Bottom 5:
    Kenneth Cole (junk)
    Tommy Hilfiger (a brand and house in irreversible decline)
    Hugo Boss (see Kenneth Cole)
    Liz Claiborne (can't believe that no one mentioned this one yet)
    Giorgio Armani (becuase AdG and Code are too dominant)
    Top 5 for Late Summer:
    1) Straight to Heaven - By Kilian
    2) Aventus - Creed
    3) Flower of Immortality - By Kilian
    4) L'Humaniste - Frapin
    5) Millesime Imperial - Creed

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    Only lising the best...
    Chanel
    Hermes
    Gucci
    Bulgari
    Dior
    Guerlain

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    Default Re: Designer Houses: Best and Worst

    I tend to like the offerings of more of the designer houses than not, and especially like several offerings each from Hermes, Bulgari, Chanel, and Cartier. In addition, I wish to cast my vote for honorable mention to both Krizia and Laura Biagiotti for their generally excellent men's frags, composed with genuinely authentic Italian style.
    Last edited by wicozani; 29th March 2007 at 12:26 AM.

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    Picking out the worst is very, very easy:

    Liz Claiborne

    Claiborne's only, and I mean ONLY, saving grace is the original Claiborne for Men, which was quite fine for it's time. The entire line should all be relegated to CVS.

    Picking out a best is certainly a bit more tough.....

    Givenchy (Very Irresistible, Pour Homme, Blue Label)
    Armani (Emporio White, Mania, Code, Armani)

    It's a draw for me.

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    Default Re: Designer Houses: Best and Worst

    Quote Originally Posted by MFfan310 View Post
    Top 5:
    YSL (with the exception of L'Homme)
    Burberry (well-crafted scents)
    Dior (ditto)
    Hermes (them too)
    Thierry Mugler (surprised that no one has mentioned them)

    Bottom 5:
    Kenneth Cole (junk)
    Tommy Hilfiger (a brand and house in irreversible decline)
    Hugo Boss (see Kenneth Cole)
    Liz Claiborne (can't believe that no one mentioned this one yet)
    Giorgio Armani (becuase AdG and Code are too dominant)
    You think Armani is one of the worst designer houses just because AdG and Code are "too dominant"? They may be dominant, but the fragrances are decent quality, unlike the crap that is Liz Claiborne and Hilfiger. I also have to disagree with those that said Thierry Mugler as one of the worst. Personally I don't care for any of their frags to wear, but you can't deny that they're also of good quality.

    That being said, I'd say the best designer houses are: Dior, Chanel, Guerlain, Gucci

    Worst: Liz Claiborne and Hilfiger
    Current faves: CdG White, Amouage Dia, Millesime Imperial, Miller Harris Terre de Bois

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    Quote Originally Posted by radix023 View Post
    When you say PM, do you mean the 1955 or the new PMC? The 1955 non-concentree PM was the only Chanel for men that was developed during Coco Chanel's life. I like it, but don't really like PMC.

    (which is hard because only PMC seems to be distributed in the US. I had to order from the UK to get the original version)
    In the mid 80's .. had a bottle of Chanel Pour Homme ..which must have been the origional formula..it was fantastic...strong & long lasting..the next bottle i purchased was labled Chanel Pour Monsieur (not PMC)...not the same at all...much milder and fades fairly fast..I still think its a great scent..just not the origional

    faves

    chanel
    gucci
    versace
    givenchy
    dolce & gabanna

    ysl is in mid ground

    don't have any "worst" yet.
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    The Best

    ySL
    Guerlain
    Creed

    Worst

    CK
    Armani
    Hugo Boss
    Joop
    "...but I also can't prove that mushrooms could not be intergalactic spaceships spying on us." Daniel C. Dennett

    Top 5
    1.
    Heritage 2. Antaeus3.Kouros 4. Drakkar Noir 5. Montana PDH

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    [QUOTE=Shiver;1003633]What are your choices for best and worst men's designer houses?
    I'm not clear on how you define "men's designer houses". I think you mean any company that makes men's fragrances, not just designer companies.
    I have to agree with the majority, Claiborne, Boss, Tommy Hillfiger, etc. represent the worst of the worst. They churn out the most pathetic formulas. I would rather smell like Dial soap or Tide than one of those aquatic, green, atrocities.
    To me,
    1 - Guerlain
    2 - Caron
    3 - Serge Lutens
    4 - Creed
    5 - Tom Ford, wherever he hangs his hat.
    Are the standards to judge by.
    I'm horrified that Chanel has played with their formulas. Antaeus was a masterpiece and now is just a shadow of a masterpiece.
    Giorgio Armani should be renamed the Jolly Green Giant, as that's what he does over and over. He once was important as a designer, but got stuck in a major 80's rut.
    Calvin Klein can be forgiven for being innovative.

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    best:
    ysl
    dior
    gucci
    hermes

    worst:
    armani
    ck
    boss
    dkny
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    Best:
    Hermes
    Chanel
    Guerlain

    I can't name the worst ones. Most designers with which I am familiar have at least one redeeming fragrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    I'm not clear on how you define "men's designer houses". I think you mean any company that makes men's fragrances, not just designer companies.
    I strictly meant companies that are considered designer, not niche, that produce men's fragrance. Hence my title. Niche houses such as Creed, Lutens etc. don't belong on this list.

    I'm sorry if I caused any misunderstanding.
    Last edited by Shiver; 29th March 2007 at 02:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiver View Post
    I strictly meant companies that are considered designer, not niche, that produce men's fragrance. Hence my title. Niche houses such as Creed, Lutens etc. don't belong on this list.

    I'm sorry if I caused any misunderstanding.
    First of all, I'm not trying to be difficult, but I'm still not clear. Creed is not a designer house and is not a niche house, they are a major traditional fragrance house like Guerlain and Caron. On the other hand, Hermes is a leather accessories house that also makes fragrances. I agree Lutens can be seen as a "niche" house. See what I mean?
    Your post holds my interest.
    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    First of all, I'm not trying to be difficult, but I'm still not clear. Creed is not a designer house and is not a niche house, they are a major traditional fragrance house like Guerlain and Caron. On the other hand, Hermes is a leather accessories house that also makes fragrances. I agree Lutens can be seen as a "niche" house. See what I mean?
    Your post holds my interest.
    Cheers.
    A similar argument can be made that since Serge Lutens sell makeup and skincare, they are an "upscale" designer house. Guerlain sell skincare and makeup too. Many sites have classified Creed, just like Santa Maria Novella, a niche house (note that Caron and Guerlain have their "exclusive" niche line too, just like Hermes). Their fragrance pricing certainly reflects that.
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    Smile Re: Designer Houses: Best and Worst

    IMHO, Creed is not a niche house, as it's available in the U.S. at most Saks and Neiman Marcus branches, as well as from numerous on-line discounters. There are too many points of sale for it to be "niche". Creed is priced niche, but its volume is not niche. Perhaps this is another thread?
    Cheers.

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    Default Re: Designer Houses: Best and Worst

    Best--in no particular order:
    YSL
    Hermes
    Bulgari
    Guerlain ? designer house?

    Worst:
    Liz Claiborne
    Hugo Boss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    IMHO, Creed is not a niche house, as it's available in the U.S. at most Saks and Neiman Marcus branches, as well as from numerous on-line discounters. There are too many points of sale for it to be "niche". Creed is priced niche, but its volume is not niche. Perhaps this is another thread?
    Cheers.
    I think this has been discussed before. L'Artisan and others are also carried by many Neiman-Marcus's etc. Availability doesnt concern me since I can now buy almost every Bond no. 9 on Ebay too (and the number of bottles are growing every week, and it wont be too long before it starts appearing at online sites). Plus, thats just one attribute you are looking at: "points of sale". If we look at the attribute "price", then L'Artisan isn't niche because its priced at the level of many Chanels. I would say all brands listed at "aedes.com" are niche
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    One man's "niche" is another man's necessity.
    Last edited by Kevin Guyer; 31st March 2007 at 08:57 PM. Reason: capriciousness!

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    BEST:
    *YSL
    *Versace
    *Gucci
    *Dior
    *Givenchy

    WORST:
    *Hilfiger
    *Hugo Boss

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    Five best from design houses, dead or alive, and easily accessible :

    - Dior
    - Hermes
    - Yves Saint Laurent
    - Givenchy


    and Comme des Garcons - if they were available.

    All for fragrances I consider wearable for a man

    The worst - why bother ?
    'Il mondo dei profumi č un universo senza limiti: una fraganza puo rievocare sensazioni, luoghi, persone o ancora condurre in uno spazio di nuove dimensioni emozionali' L. V.

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    best:
    Yves Saint Laurent
    TOM FORD
    Kenzo
    Hermes'
    Armani Prive'
    Guerlain "'boutique exclusives ''
    Dior: by Hedi Sliman who has resigned today.
    90's Ungaro


    worst:
    BOSS
    dunhill 'now'
    Emporio Armani
    Davidoff 'now'
    Ralph Lauren

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    Default Re: Designer Houses: Best and Worst

    So far the leaders in each category are:

    Best: YSL (12)
    [Runner up: Dior (10)]

    Worst: Hugo Boss (Can we really say this is the worst designer house?)
    Last edited by Shiver; 30th March 2007 at 02:28 PM.

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    Best: YSL, Dior, Chanel.
    Worst: Tommy, Kenneth Cole.

    Boss would go on my "worst" list, but I'm quite fond of Boss Bottled, and that one in the sphere that smells like Orange Julius isn't too bad, though not one I'd buy. The rest are insipid garbage. The original Baldessarini is also quite good, but I guess it's considered a separate brand now or something.

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    I am slightly disappointed that Givenchy has not made it into most peoples best lists.

    Pi; Gentleman; Xeryus Rouge.... ????

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