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    Default UK perfumers: Sources for Perfumers Alcohol??

    I cannot seem to be able to source TBA / perfumer's alcohol in the UK.

    My local chemist says I need to try through a big chemist in town or contact head office! It is all very frustrating. I have searched on line for hours with no luck.

    Can someone help me please?
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    Default Re: UK perfumers: Sources for Perfumers Alcohol??

    is there a preference for using TBA instead of EtOH (Ethanol/grain alcohol)? Or is the UK like the USA in terms of the (extensive) restrictions it puts on EtOH? Actually, in the US, in some states one can obtain a fairly pure EtOH (everclear grain alcohol - 190 proof), however the dept. of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms won't let one use it for cosmetics because it's taxed as a liquor. Seems quite archaic and kafkaesque to me....

    anyway, i happen to have a passing interest in this as i'm going to be formulating (and perhaps marketing) some skin care products....though not necessarilly frags.
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    Default Re: UK perfumers: Sources for Perfumers Alcohol??

    Wow! "Ask and ye shall receive..."
    Have found sourced a supplier and have prices. Boy, this stuff is expensive in smaller quantities!

    Are there any other HM R&C registered UK perfumers here interested in a split?

    Let me know.
    Last edited by moondeva; 17th April 2007 at 02:56 PM.
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    Default Re: UK perfumers: Sources for Perfumers Alcohol??

    however the dept. of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms won't let one use it for cosmetics because it's taxed as a liquor. Seems quite archaic and kafkaesque to me....
    The new name of the (U.S.) Federal agency regulating alcohol is now the Trade and Tax Bureau (TTB).

    The Federal government does not having any prohibition on using tax-paid alcohol in the manufacture of fragrances for sale. That there is a prohibition is a myth.
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    Can't help you there, man. I can get it easily here in the U.S. though.
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    Default Re: UK perfumers: Sources for Perfumers Alcohol??

    Hi, I am having the same problem finding perfumers alcohol. Where did you find it in the end?

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    Default Re: UK perfumers: Sources for Perfumers Alcohol??

    You can order from De Hekserij (www.hekserij.nl), "cosmetisch haarwater" - a alcoholic perfume base is not at the international pricelist, but it will be shipped to the UK. You can email for more information.

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    Thank you for that. In the meantime I have sourced some from www.essentially-me.co.uk. But I will certainly keep this contact for future reference.

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    I never knew there was a perfumers alcohol, so what you are saying is use ethanol? what is TBA?, I am in US where do I buy the ethanol alcohol, lol sounds like gasoline to me.
    thanks in advance

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    Default Re: UK perfumers: Sources for Perfumers Alcohol??

    It is usualy alcohol intended to use for perfume. It is usualy about 95% ethanol + denaturants that have no or little smell.

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    I am no expert in this. I only make one fragrance for a handful of people who love it. So this is the link to the perfume base I bought. http://www.essentially-me.co.uk//pro....php?prod=Base

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    Has anyone ever used this site?

    http://www.mistralni.co.uk/
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    Yes. They were helpful and delivered fast. It appeared to be clear, non smelling alcohol in a plastic container, but as I have never bought the stuff before, I cannot tell you much else. I did get a large amount as I was intending to sell some of it. PM me if you would like to share some. We may be near to each other.

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    Thanks for your reply Mumsy, and for your kind offer. I'll certainly bear it in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by janmeut View Post
    You can order from De Hekserij (www.hekserij.nl), "cosmetisch haarwater" - a alcoholic perfume base is not at the international pricelist, but it will be shipped to the UK. You can email for more information.
    Sadly Hekserij are not able to ship this stuff to the UK any longer. However I can recommend them for other supplies that they can ship.

    Quote Originally Posted by lorraine doron View Post
    Thank you for that. In the meantime I have sourced some from www.essentially-me.co.uk. But I will certainly keep this contact for future reference.
    I have tried this and must warn you that it is not odourless - it is ethanol that has had a selection of essential oils added to it, it is dark brown in colour and has a very distinctive odour. That isn't to say that you can't use it, but be aware of what you'll be getting. Shipping is also very expensive - I collected mine in person.

    Quote Originally Posted by Persolaise View Post
    Has anyone ever used this site?

    http://www.mistralni.co.uk/
    I have and I can recommend their product as long as you are happy with the additives they use. The product is odourless, clear and works extremely well as the isopropyl myristate it contains helps to keep some of the more difficult ingredients in solution. Shipping is reasonable because they have a good deal with the HazMat couriers they use for their core business and because of the extra additives you don't need an HMRC licences to use it. However if you are trying to make all-natural perfumes then it won't be any use to you for the same reason.

    Hope this helps.

    As this comes up so often could we have this as a sticky thread please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post
    Quite true, but because the title seems to be about something else, new ones keep being created - and the other one does have all the options in it, but it's quite hard work to find them: this one is short sweet and to the point.
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    Default Re: UK perfumers: Sources for Perfumers Alcohol??

    Hi.

    After decades of being unable to find a supplier of alcohol, I managed to find one fairly local to me, who also has a good range of oils and materials, along with what looks like a good offer on multiple purchases.
    I only found them last night, after years of trawling the net, so I'm pretty happy about this.
    This is denatured alcohol, and I prefer ethanol, but hey, who's complaining?

    http://stores.ebay.co.uk/angleseyorg...p2047675.l2563

    As you can see, they only seem to trade via Ebay, but I think I spotted an address somewhere, so a visit may be possible.

    Looks like I've been spending a long time searching for my own nose (In more ways than one)

    Hope this is helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zos View Post
    Hi.

    After decades of being unable to find a supplier of alcohol, I managed to find one fairly local to me, who also has a good range of oils and materials, along with what looks like a good offer on multiple purchases.
    I only found them last night, after years of trawling the net, so I'm pretty happy about this.
    This is denatured alcohol, and I prefer ethanol, but hey, who's complaining?

    http://stores.ebay.co.uk/angleseyorg...p2047675.l2563

    As you can see, they only seem to trade via Ebay, but I think I spotted an address somewhere, so a visit may be possible.

    Looks like I've been spending a long time searching for my own nose (In more ways than one)

    Hope this is helpful.
    Iím fairly sure these people are re-selling the product you can buy from Mistral - nothing wrong with that and may suit you if youíre buying other things from them at t he same time - Iíve done that myself for people who are buying other things from me, but if you want much it will be cheaper to buy direct.
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    Default Re: UK perfumers: Sources for Perfumers Alcohol??

    Depends on the size. Their small bottle is cheaper, by the looks of it they can afford the decant cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zos View Post
    Hi.

    After decades of being unable to find a supplier of alcohol, I managed to find one fairly local to me, who also has a good range of oils and materials, along with what looks like a good offer on multiple purchases.
    I only found them last night, after years of trawling the net, so I'm pretty happy about this.
    This is denatured alcohol, and I prefer ethanol, but hey, who's complaining?

    http://stores.ebay.co.uk/angleseyorg...p2047675.l2563

    As you can see, they only seem to trade via Ebay, but I think I spotted an address somewhere, so a visit may be possible.

    Looks like I've been spending a long time searching for my own nose (In more ways than one)

    Hope this is helpful.
    Denatured alcohol is ethanol. The only difference is that it has something added to it to make it non-potable. Some denaturants smell, others don't, so choose the right one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post
    Depends on the size. Their small bottle is cheaper, by the looks of it they can afford the decant cut.
    Indeed - the small size is good value - especially as they are including free shipping or free click & collect from Argos. Very handy indeed for people who only use 100ml or so.
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    Mistral are very good. Prompt delivery and courteous service. Can't ask for more.

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    Default Re: UK perfumers: Sources for Perfumers Alcohol??

    If you want one to four litres then Proxisante are slightly cheaper even with postage (make sure you ask for free delivery if your order is over 100 euros). And currently they have a 10% discount.

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    Default Re: UK perfumers: Sources for Perfumers Alcohol??

    I do only use small amounts right now, as I have no plans to make large amounts of anything at the moment (Apart from noise with my guitar, but that's another forum).
    Still experimenting, and trying to find that EUREKA moment when I sniff the aroma and the world transforms itself into a Heavenly paradise

    Thanks for the Mistral link and the Proxisante mention, they're probably here earlier in the thread, but I was so pleased to find the local one, I just went ahead and posted.
    There are some interesting aromatics there as well.

    I always wondered if it was possible to capture that freshly cut grass smell, and it seems they have managed to create one.
    I'll have to check out some of those other chemicals too, and see what they can be useful for.
    They seem interesting.

    I didn't know denatured alcohol was still Ethanol.

    As always, thanks for all your replies.
    Last edited by Zos; 30th April 2015 at 11:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zos View Post
    I didn't know denatured alcohol was still Ethanol.

    As always, thanks for all your replies.
    Google "Denatured Alcohol", all will be revealed.

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