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    My tiny bottle of French Lover just arived. First Impressions are very good , I like what I smell. There's patchouly , there's incense and tree moss.
    Very warm, very comforting. Also lot's cedar wood. On first spray there's also a strong ,herbal ,sweet like smell. Never smelled anything like that. Maybe it's the Angelica, but I'm not sure.
    It's manly alright, but considering the popularity of CdG insense with the ladies, this will also find it's way to them, ..maybe.
    Somehow I consider Musk Ravageur more "French Lover" than this one. It's not bold or sweet, but more classic and down to earth.One could consider this scent "too mainstream" for a niche house like Malle. Considering the price, who can blame them. time will tell.
    To visualise this scent, typewise, scents come to mind, like: CDG Man, CDG Avignon, Gucci pour homme,etc.
    Ofcourse these were first impressions. Longevity , I'm not sure yet. I think the cedar wood will leave a pleasant,comforting feel on the skin.
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    Default Re: French Lover came in today (quick review)

    Your review, as well as a few others on the blogosphere, are quite good...this sounds quite delectable and something I look forward to adding to my Santa's list.

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    That's disappointing, it doesn't sound as 'sexy' as I expected it to be. I was expecting something with a similar feel to MR.

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    What's left on my skin of it is not entirely what I expected, it's better.
    It's more incence than cedar, but very close to the skin. Not shouting , but whispering.
    It's a differend type of scent than Musk Ravageur, but I dunno if it's "sexy." depends on what you define as sexy.I like Musk Ravageur too, but these can't be compared really. I guess there's a FM scent for everyone.
    Some find incense type scents sexy, others find sweet smelling scents ,"sexy". Have to do a full test and let others decide if it's sexy or not.
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    Thank you Eric. I was hoping someone would give his impressions soon, and I am grateful for every word you wrote. These seem to confirm ideas I got reading the components listed on the Malle website. It seems that FM mean business when they classify a fragrance as masculine. I look forward to sampling it myself within the next weeks.
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    Here is a link to an excellent review of French Lover, just scroll down a bit to get to it.


    http://perfumesmellinthings.blogspot.com/

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    thanks for the review, sounds good, but not as adventurously sexy as i had hoped

    ps: this thread title made me laugh a lot (did he sneak in the window?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rentboy View Post
    ps: this thread title made me laugh a lot (did he sneak in the window?)
    , tried to stay with the"tongue'n cheek" theme, but coming from me it did sound a bit weird.
    I'm going to test the "sexiness factor" on my wife tonight. Ooh yeaaaaaaaaah..... ( Bary White music in the background..).

    I'm aware that last sentence sounded bad also, ...and very seventies, although I like Barry White.

    Prince Barry, thanks for the link.
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    I ordered my bottle last week...It's going to hit US in late august, under a differernt name.
    I couldn't wait, and had to have the original name.

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    I will test F.M. French Lover today...my nose is ready for it :-)

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    French Lover arrived today from France, and I'm wearing it as I type. I'll need to live with it for a while before I attempt a review, but I'll share a few first impressions:

    Mercifully, this is not a "me too" scent. It's dark, it's distinctive, it's full of character, and it's quite complex in its evolution. The American Bois d'Orage ("Thunderwood") label is apt; this is a real whipcrack of a scent. Nothing sweet, nothing pretty here. If I were to look for its relations in the Frederic Malle line they would be Vetiver Extraordinaire and (especially) Noire Epices. It starts out forbidding, and even a bit austere, but warms up as it goes, revealing an kind of dangerous animal aspect without any vanilla/amber sweetness.

    More to come, and a full review over the weekend...

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    Thanks Vibert. It sounds quite intriguing. I'm wondering, does it connect to the classic 70s/80 chypres in any way? Could it be viewed as a 21st century update of something like Balenciaga's Portos?
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    Actually, now that you mention it, French Lover does strike me as being somewhat in the genre of Portos, MPG's Parfum d'Habit, or perhaps even Yatagan. It's much more transparent and civilized than any of these, without the artemisia or the penetrating castoreum in Yatagan and Portos, or Parfum d'Habit's leather. No smoke here, either. Yes, there is plenty of oakmoss, but the overall effect is much more subtle than the hit-you-over-the-head 80s chypre effect.

    After coupe of hours on my skin French Lover is dominated by vetiver - very raw, earthy vetiver that reminds me of MPG's Route du Vetiver, though softened by patchouli and warmed by a bit of musk. If you compare this with the dirty, leathery 1980s chypres, French Lover leaves them looking like they're walking around with their flies wide open.

    Interestingly, the heart of the scent is touched with an odd, musty note not far removed from the foetid floral decay that creeps up underneath Ropion's Une Fleur de Cassie.

    It's an interesting scent, this one. Much more wearable than the 30 year-old powerhouses, but also assertively male.
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    Incense, patchouli, angelica, cedar...this is a must test for me.

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    A restrained and well-behaved Yatagan ? Sounds fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibert View Post
    Actually, now that you mention it, French Lover does strike me as being somewhat in the genre of Portos, MPG's Parfum d'Habit, or perhaps even Yatagan. It's much more transparent and civilized than any of these, without the artemisia or the penetrating castoreum in Yatagan and Portos, or Parfum d'Habit's leather. No smoke here, either. Yes, there is plenty of oakmoss, but the overall effect is much more subtle than the hit-you-over-the-head 80s chypre effect.

    After coupe of hours on my skin French Lover is dominated by vetiver - very raw, earthy vetiver that reminds me of MPG's Route du Vetiver, though softened by patchouli and warmed by a bit of musk. If you compare this with the dirty, leathery 1980s chypres, French Lover leaves them looking like they're walking around with their flies wide open.

    Interestingly, the heart of the scent is touched with an odd, musty note not far removed from the foetid floral decay that creeps up underneath Ropion's Une Fleur de Cassie.

    It's an interesting scent, this one. Much more wearable than the 30 year-old powerhouses, but also assertively male.
    Sounds very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-Natra View Post
    I will test F.M. French Lover today...my nose is ready for it :-)
    OK, so.......?
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    Darn good describing of the scent,Vibert, if I may say so, thanks!
    I agreed with every word you said.

    Have been wearing it a few days now, and it's indeed very dark and manly. Raw, and refined at the same time. I find it somehow strange it's released now. It's more fall/winter scent to me but maybe this wears ok on warmer weather too. After al I've neen wearing m7 in summer also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric View Post
    Darn good describing of the scent,Vibert, if I may say so, thanks!
    I agreed with every word you said.

    Have been wearing it a few days now, and it's indeed very dark and manly. Raw, and refined at the same time. I find it somehow strange it's released now. It's more fall/winter scent to me but maybe this wears ok on warmer weather too. After al I've neen wearing m7 in summer also.
    I agree that he timing on this release is pretty odd. I think it's going to get more wear from me in cool weather. The more I wear it, the more it boils down to a vetiver and incense fragrance in my mind. A this point I think I've got enough of a handle on it to write a full review - my conclusion is that anybody looking for a very dry, assertive, woody chypre but finds Yatagan too weird and uncouth and Route du Vetiver or Vetiver Extraordinaire too wild may enjoy French Lover.

    On to that review...

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    My bottle just arrived today (remarkably quickly, too. It took about 10 days).


    My initial impression is that it smells somewhat like Terre d'Hermes without all the citrus. It wears very close to the skin for a perfume. I wish it projected a little bit more. I'll wear it out with the lady friend tonight and see what she thinks.


    So far I like it, but I can't believe how much I spent on it. Also, samples would have been nice with a purchase like that. Oh well. We'll see how it is in a few hours.



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    Thank you both, Eric and Vibert. Vetiver and Incense, sounds so good! For me the sum of this is: I better delay my idea of getting either Vetiver Extraordinaire, or A. Dominguez' legendary V for now. Otherwise I end up with one vetiver too many! Of course fragrance descriptions can hardly ever work without comparisons. Unfortunately here at the cost of Yatagan, and a group of once popular chypres. It has yet to be seen how one can be similarly impressed with French Lover and yet remain loyal to Yatagan which has been appreciated as a rather unique and special cologne for men. The eighties were a great decade for men's colognes, and not just raw, macho ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    Of course fragrance descriptions can hardly ever work without comparisons. Unfortunately here at the cost of Yatagan, and a group of once popular chypres. It has yet to be seen how one can be similarly impressed with French Lover and yet remain loyal to Yatagan which has been appreciated as a rather unique and special cologne for men. The eighties were a great decade for men's colognes, and not just raw, macho ones.
    Good point narcus, though don't take my comparisons the wrong way! I have nothing against the big 80s scents - they sure beat the heck out of all the chocolate syrup and limp bathwater that've crowded the market for the last couple of decades. The world of fragrance would be much impoverished without JHL, Tuscany Forte, Azzaro, Van Cleef and Arpels, and their kin! (Not to mention the more understated 80s niche scents from Creed, Diptyque, and L'Artisan Parfumeurs.)

    Kouros and Yatagan are still 4-5 star fragrances in my book, and while it's easy to charicature them as I have, I don't mean to disparage them. Both are giants among their peers. French Lover is just a bit more versatile and easier to wear than they are. It suits a different set of moods and circumstances, and its relative transparency is a bit more in line with contemporary fragrance trends. I could see wearing French Lover to a business meeeting. Kouros? No way!

    I wouldn't throw away any of the 1980s masterpieces for French Lover. On the other hand I would choose very carefully between French Lover, Route du Vetiver, and Vetiver Extraordinaire. These three could be a bit redundant in a medium-to-small collection. Unless, of course, you're a vetiver completist.
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    I think I'm going to wait on buying this. At least until I can get a sample, which won't be for a while since I'm not near NYC.

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    So far sounds like a 3/5. I would play it safe and go for a sample first.
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    I tried it today, and like it a lot !

    I totally agree there is a strong resemblance with Terre d'Hermès, but without the overpowering effect of the latter. It is a little like a darker, more discreet version of it.

    I think women are going to adore French Lover on men : it is deep, cool, manly, very balanced and refined.

    As soon as I smelled it I thought a fragrance can hardly get any more Left Bank Paris than this one : it "embodies" a certain idea of understated chic, and a sure proof of taste.

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    I bought this one last week...i love it...it´s worth any cent :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibert View Post
    Good point narcus, though don't take my comparisons the wrong way! I have nothing against the big 80s scents - they sure beat the heck out of all the chocolate syrup and limp bathwater that've crowded the market for the last couple of decades. The world of fragrance would be much impoverished without JHL, Tuscany Forte, Azzaro, Van Cleef and Arpels, and their kin! (Not to mention the more understated 80s niche scents from Creed, Diptyque, and L'Artisan Parfumeurs.)....
    Thanks for the additional comment. I understand you well now, and your admired review of Yatagan (directory) ties in perfectly again. When I go and get my sample, I will try and concentrate on Vétiver xo also. Probably I shall make a decision between these two before I pursue any idea about Dominguez' V. I like the unobtrusive but firm statements in a few Edition perfumes very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    Thanks for the additional comment. I understand you well now, and your admired review of Yatagan (directory) ties in perfectly again. When I go and get my sample, I will try and concentrate on Vétiver xo also. Probably I shall make a decision between these two before I pursue any idea about Dominguez' V. I like the unobtrusive but firm statements in a few Edition perfumes very much.
    I'll be very curious to see what you think of VE versus French Lover. If the "unobtrusive but firm" aspect of, say, Noir Epices appeals to you, French Lover may be right up your alley as well. They don't actually smell very much alike to me, but I think they project a similar mood. Maybe it's because they're both assertive and masculine, with no sugar added. (BTW, I agree with your comment on another Frederic Malle thread that Noir Epices is hard to imagine on most women. Any of the ladies have a thought on this?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-Natra View Post
    i tried it last week (French Lover). my girlfriend run away...i have to wash it off...smells like old people...i stay with creed (fresher and light notes). I don´t need the longtivity...French Lover maximum 2 sprays and it last til the next day...not my kind of fragrance...and Musc Ravageur is sooo sweet...i will pass Frederic Malle scents...
    I would recommend atleast a weeks testing period (preferably two) before passing initial judgment over a fragrance. Its been my experience that sometimes a couple of wearings wont completely reveal a perfumes nuances. Ofcourse perceptions can change over a longer period of time as well but thats why its so much fun !
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-Natra View Post
    i tried it last week (French Lover). my girlfriend run away...i have to wash it off...smells like old people...i stay with creed (fresher and light notes). I don´t need the longtivity...French Lover maximum 2 sprays and it last til the next day...not my kind of fragrance...and Musc Ravageur is sooo sweet...i will pass Frederic Malle scents...
    Frederic Malle scents sure are a far cry from the modern Creeds. I can't imagine your girlfriend's response to some of the super-sweet Serge Lutens fragrances!

    In all seriousness though, you've tried what's probably the sweetest scent in the Frederic Malle line (Musc Ravageur) and one of the most agressive and severe (French Lover). I love Musc Ravageur, but it's very easy to overapply. In fact, I've switched to the oil formulation because it stays closer to the skin.

    Not all of the Frederic Malle scents are as extreme in character as the two you've tried, so don't write the whole house off. You'd be cheating yourself badly if you did. Among the other Malle fragrances, Noir Epices is extremely suave and sophisticated, without a drop of sweetness to it. Lys Mediterranee is a surprisingly light and refreshing unisex floral, Cologne Bigarade is a very crisp citrus with a sneaky animal accord in the base, and Angeliques sous la Pluie is a light, subtle scent that I find very easy to wear.

    ZZtopp is right, by the way: these are mercurial fragrances that deserve a pretty long test run, preferably under varied conditions. I shudder to think about some of the great scents (including Santal Noble, Ambre Sultane, and Black Aoud,) that I dismissed prematurely!

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