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    Wonderful scent...best for fall
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    LAME, LAME, LAME. shy sillage, No staying power.....angelique with a different label. I sprayed, and sprayed, and sprayed. What a rip off.

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    I couldn't wait until Saturday to get this under my nose: what an amazing masculine beauty! I immediately recognized a note I have (unfortunately) no name for. It is rather noticeable in Gris Clair also (there described as grey rock and lavender dust, I believe). The F. Malle representative described it as 'burnt' incense to me, but maybe it's mainly the galbanum (?). Nawaf, a cologne from the Middle East, has it as top and middle notes. It took me a while to adopt that smell, but now I find it quite fascinating. This completely distracted me from looking for the Vetiver. I think I caught a trace of that on my Jacket sleeve today - two days I had my wrist sprayed! Being someones lover is often a rather private and discrete affair, I think. So I find moderate sillage very adequate. I have no doubts concerning the perfume's longevity particularly when it grows while you wear it. I think men who have enjoyed VetiverX may also find this new cologne attractive.

    The name sounds like a promise. If people expected a firework of sensations and emotions from this bottle, they will be disappointed! But if the message is about the strength, energy, and nerves of a secret lover - then that's what you get! Those expecting another Musk Ravageur will have to wait for it, and sample Carnal Flower in between.
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    Can't wait to try French Lover and Carnal Flower - I will see them this week in Paris. The Malle fragrances are mostly all near misses to me. I am wanting to like this house. They all have something going for them, but also they all seem to miss the point somehow.

    I love the concept of this house, great fragrant ideas and ingredients seem top drawer, but I have to totally agree with P-Natra in his previous post - "Nothing against Frederic Malle but . . . " The only one I've been able to appreciate over time is the Bigarade Concentree - have gone through 2 bottles of this great summer scent - its fresh, not cloying, attractively orange but also mysterious with the ending animalic musk. Had to give the Vetiver Extrordanaire away it was just too thick and lacked the mystery of great vetiver scents in my opinion. The Musc Raveager smells great - I like the idea of it, but only if you can spray once and divide it onto four areas of the body. If you don't its just too sweet and trying way too hard - in a naive kind of way for such experienced ingredients. Maybe the MR oil would work better (thanks Vibert). Noir Espices evolves way too metallic to overpower the spices and charm of the opening, and the other frags are just too feminine for men. An exception is the Angelique - it is a very fresh light summer floral fragrance that a man can wear.

    Hoping the new ones break the trend of near misses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzlepuff View Post
    Can't wait to try French Lover and Carnal Flower - I will see them this week in Paris. The Malle fragrances are mostly all near misses to me. I am wanting to like this house. They all have something going for them, but also they all seem to miss the point somehow.
    I think it has to do with the lofty expectations of the house brought on by Malle's founding claims. Most of the fragrances in the line are variations of what already exists in the catalog of other houses (or something similar to it) - sure, the Malle version might be a bit better composed of better ingredients but one might not feel an urge to invest in it. For example, VE is a good vetiver fragrance, but its not substantially better or different than the well established vetiver offerings from other line. The same could be said of the many rose and citrus offerings in the line. Theres no radical hook like that of Montale with ouds for example.

    Maybe we should substantially lower our lofty expectations from this house - its not going to make the other established niche and classic houses seem like yesterdays news anytime soon. I personally find the new houses of Montale and Perfume d'empire/generale more exciting than Malle. Malle is onpar with the other much talked about houses, and I would probably be more impressed by the line if it was one of the first houses I had explored.
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    I was one of those who approached this cologne sceptically.Therefor the first encounter was a very pleasant surprise! Calling FL a perfume would be wrong for a change, and in a way I am relieved! This is a classical men's fragrance with a fun name. And only the name should alarm anybody! (I'll tell the story of how it came about when I have more time.) I won't speculate what scent associations people may have with that name. But a lot will depend on gender, age, experience and location. It could be almost anything. Humans are rather versatile. Perfume-wise I expected anything within the triangle of Jicky, Drakkar Noir and Fou d'Absinth. It's nothing of the kind, and it feels very modern (not in the sense of future, just our presence, right for now). It is like a fine silk tie on a fresh white shirt, worn in a city which appears too be grey on many days and too loudand crowded. This tie is not loud and in perfect harmony with the rest of a man who has his job under control and also his private affairs. Although he tries to make concessions to please others occasionally, this man is aware of the short time he has to realize his own goals. He will never wear or tolerate anything that could narrow his freedom unduly, or reduce his dreams down to barbie size adventures. There was a novel titled French Lover.a few years ago, author Taslima Nasrin, an Indian woman, which caused some attention in France (Young Indian lady, married to a middle aged Indian merchant, meets Frenchman in Paris). I didn't read the novel myself, but heard a few things about it. Wherever that story takes you - it is obviously not just romance! And neither is this cologne !

    I had initially been afraid that French Lover would smell 'loaded' like Musk Ravageur (so wonderful but best worn at bedtime). FL isn't that at all, and rather simple on the surface. Now I am doubly pleased. I find it suitable for the happy hours and imagine it wouldn't disturb the work atmosphere either. The other good thing - It is an extension rather than a replacement of other favorites from the Edition.

    A lot of mileage is between Kouros (1981) and this Lover ! We saw Live Jazz, Cool Water, Féminité du Bois and Iris Poudré on our journey, and we certainly grew older together with Bourdon. I feel I owe PB, the perfumer, a lot! Perhaps some swimmers still remember that he was an admired athlete in youthful years, and a political scientist later.You may sometimes wonder what a certain cream or shaving foam smells of - he would be the man to ask! Bourdon has been responsible for some of them. The name 'French Lover' is the only thing he is not responsible for. I know for certain that it was "Bois de ..?.." originally. So, most likely Bois d'Orage was the original name now restituted for America. I doubt if French Lover will ever be as popular as Kouros has been. Perhaps it will eventually be recognized as one of the finest colognes for men that Bourdon did. It may also be his last one - who knows?


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    The house is one of the very few which consistently inspires me. They've been aligned with their source from the start and have never disconnected. Noir Epices is as solid as they come, and though I haven't worn them all, there hasn't been a poor one in the bunch. VE is the most intriguing and accurate vetiver frag I've worn, though I prefer the substance of Route du Vetiver. Musc Ravageur a great one, but I let go of it (to my gf) for I've had all the ambery/vanilla drydowns I can handle. I haven't even sampled Une Rose. I expect it to be excellent. I prefer it on my girlfriend, but Carnal Flower is one of the best things I've ever smelled. I've been off sample mode for some time. I must get to work and sample the rest of these beauties. Bois d'Orage first, though I'll probably just buy a bottle.
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    Thank you narcus for a marvelous tribute to a great parfumeur and a fresh perspective on French Lover. That French Lover has sparked such a degree of controversy so soon after its release may actually mean that it's slated for legendary status.

    Whatever its eventual significance, I agree with narcus that French Lover does extend the Malle line in an unexpected direction. I also concur with pluran on the house in general: while I don't like every Malle scent, I've found its offerings to be more diverse and interesting than most others'.

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    Interesting take on the fragrance and on Bourdon, Narcus. I feel exactely the same about it, even after a week.
    rather like it and have been wearing it on some rainy days most of the times.
    No lasting problems on me.I own Musk Ravageur too , but it's totally differend.I want to sample Carnal Flower one day.
    I can understand the dissapointed reactions though. I think that the name and the hyping on some blogs, also have to do with it.I'm not sure myself if I will replace my 50ml bottle when I finish it. (like I will ever finish a bottle )
    Also , there are a lot fragrances out there that are the same type fragrances and are a bit friendlier priced.Comme des Garcons Man, L'Eau Blue d'Issey come to mind.
    But that also counts for some other high end brands.
    This will be my winter favorite this year.
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    No sillage...boring...yawn. Was really looking fordward to this. Oh well.

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    Quick impression after 2 wearings: not edge-y whatsoever, perfectly 'safe' for work or anywhere else. Fresh without the power wash; green but not the vegetable bin.
    People will not get into the elevator and know you've been there. (Husbands will not get into bed and know you've been there....not going to test that one ;-)....)
    It's Discreet.
    It's a nice guy scent and a change of pace from more 'complicated' stuff I wear. I definitely like it. Good for guys not into unisex scents.

    But really, is it understated or just not much of a statement?
    Right now I'm thinking for the money, there's not enough there to warrant the extra cash. But I'll keep wearing it and when the decant is gone we'll have the real test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grizzlesnort View Post
    It's Discreet.
    It's a nice guy scent and a change of pace from more 'complicated' stuff I wear. I definitely like it. Good for guys not into unisex scents.
    I should really smell French Lover. Too many of my perfumes are 'complicated'. I want something for every day
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    After my first full day of wearing French Lover, add me to the list of its admirers. It's an incredibly well-balanced composition in which each note blends very well with the other notes . Anjelica was a brilliant selection for an opening because of the way it compliments the pimento and galbanum in the middle, and it smells wonderful. Playing its own role to a tee, pimento provides a subtle peppery bite to the incense, musks, and hint of patchouli dwelling in the base. The galbanum note is intriguing in that it creates a fresh, green accord as it blends with the base.

    Overall, a sparking intro from anjelica evolves into an a fresh peppery, pimento, woody,incense, musk. I like it and would probably buy it again. FL will likely draw a few comparisons to other fragrances (CdG 2 Man, Gucci PH, Heeley Eau de Cedre, Tam Dao, to name a few) but it's still distinct enough to stand on its own. A worthy addition to a consistently outstanding line of fragrances.

    Moderate sillage and great longevity. I can still detect traces of it after eight hours. Day/night casual/formal doesn't matter. I would wear it any occasion any season. I like the name too, fun, playful and makes me smile.

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    I gave it a full wearing yesterday (thanks Andrew!) and I like.

    That angelica top note...it reminds me of something, but I can't figure it out. I wracked my brain trying to figure it out.

    I find it very different from other woodsy/musky mens scents - the way it kept fading and then pulsing on me all day was neat. I kept getting subtle flashes of it all day and my first thought was 'what smells so good'.

    I was disappointed with the longevity (for such a pricey frag), and I did not underapply (sprayed 7 - 8 times).

    Probably my 2nd favorite Malle scent I've tried (under Bigarade Concentree).

    I'm saving the rest of my decant for the fall/winter - IMO this scent just screams to be worn in the cool weather.
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    it is a bit like Terre d´Hermés without the fresh notes
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    Sounds just like Gendarme Sky without the cognac to me...

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    That´s true what zztop wrote...now i bought French Lover, i love this scent...you have to test it for weeks or more...sorry for my bad review...best fall scent right now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-Natra View Post
    it is a bit like Terre d´Hermés without the fresh notes
    And its true what P-Natra wrote !
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    Some basenoters says that French Lover don´t last long...hhahahaa...I have to say, if you want to smell nice with French Lover...maximum 2 sprays on the neck...in the evening even 3 sprays...maybe it is 7% alc (don´t think that´s weak) and like zztop wrote, you have to test this few more weeks and than you will regonize what good scent this is.

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    I like the 'French Lover' at first sniff but . . . I usually prefer vetiver, angelica and frankincense in fragrances and that is what this one is all about. FL is kind of severe in its naturalness - has a serious and dark outdoor attitude. Reminds me of the smells of camping out in the woods. Or, like a chunk of vetiver pulled right up out of the ground, with damp roots, wet earth and green moss all over it. There is a watery translucency to the scent that is very appealing. The angelica adds a green lift to the opening of very earthy vetiver root that finishes with frankincense. Although I like the fragrance greatly I am not drawn to wear it much. Why is that? I guess it doesn't really inspire me. Lacks humor - except for the name. Why is a french fragrance company naming a fragrance "French Lover" in English - I don't get it.

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