Yes: It is an evergreen!!! A true classic!
No: It is too classic!
Looking for the ultimative Top 100 male or unisex fragrances. Also female fragrances possible if could be worn by male.
They will all start with "What's wrong with ...." and the fragrances chosen are my personal TOP 100 of all time.
I would like to hear arguements and opinions WHY the particular fragrance SHOULD NOT be in my Top 100, probably there's a better alternative, wrong notes or even a stinker? If anyone is perfectly fine with my opinion you can answer the question "What's wrong with ...."
.... but try to concentrate on the negative aspects instead of raving.
Yes: It is an evergreen!!! A true classic!
No: It is too classic!
You'll probably get various complaints about Guerlain Vetiver, but it remains the most
recognized vetiver scent on the market. I love it, and plan to always have some in
One could argue about whether this one should have more or less of each of the
central elements: citrus, vetiver, tobacco, tonka. But, the elements work well together,
I think. Some claim it was reformulated when the bottle got modernized. They may be
right, although I detect only a very subtle difference. There are many "right" ways to
make a vetiver scent, but some are more right than others. GV is a benchmark
in vetiver scents.
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The tobacco note was designed for days when every pub, bar, restaurant, home was filled with smoke. It smells very ashy and is so persistent that it really interferes with the next day's frag. This survives two showers and more. The opening and heart are magical though, its such a shame. I wear it every day when I take my children camping for a week. When the bottle is gone, I doubt I will replace it.
Which one? The new and old are both excellent, though the new requires more of it. I can apply the stuff all day long and never get enough. That's far from true of the original which only requires a few sprays and lasts twelve hours and on. The new has a lot more citrus, less oakmoss and no civet. It's far more effervescent and many people will like that. The old is very dense, a richer, much darker smell. The original is a well-aged single malt. The new is a young single malt with added citrus. Both possess excellent drydowns, thought the longevity of the full scent is much stronger in the vintage thanks in large part to the civet and more oakmoss. The civet also gives it an extremely natural feel as if the scent is oozing from the pores (think vintage Givenchy Gentleman). The more prominent cedar in the new version makes it a little drier and its tenacity makes up for some of the lost longevity.
Can't find any reason not own these other than that I can go through the new version fast due to less susbtance. I rarely wear it anymore though I do wear the original quite a bit in the summer. There a number of good vetiver arrangements out there now.
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It is a very nice, fresh, masculine Cologne - on par with the high quality standard Guerlain always offers. I am much happier with it ignoring how it was named. For the Vetiver route I would start with Occitane's.
5-11/ I have to add: From the various Guerlain Vetiver editions I prefer the vintage Vetiver and Ice versions.
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'Il mondo dei profumi è un universo senza limiti: una fraganza puo rievocare sensazioni, luoghi, persone o ancora condurre in uno spazio di nuove dimensioni emozionali' L. V.
Vetiver (Guerlain) is good vetiver, but i think is better for older people. I gave it to my father. I prefer Creed´s Original Vetiver. It´s fresher and smells like cut grass...the vetiver is lighter.
If you can wear this in terms of skin chemistry, there is no reason not to. It should be in everybody's Top 100 as classic as it is.
Personally, I hate it. It is one of the few perfumes that physically nauseates me. I have never smelled a more repuslive tobacco note - hirch duckfinder put it quite well - it smells more like smoky pub the day after, ashes, or (used) chewing tobacco. On me, this smothers any other note there might be, so it fails as a vetiver and as a perfume per se. I love Creed's OV, 1948 (on the to buy list), Vetiver Hombre, L'Occitane's Vetyver and would not miss Guerlain's if it disappeared from the face of the earth.
First time I let my gf smell it...her face went *Bluek* "Smell like old man..."
Second time i wore it "Why did you deliberately wear that again to annoy me?" Winds down window of car instantly
Third time... "No loving for you..."
I keep my bottle now for pure collection purposes
"You smell kinda pretty! Wanna Smell me ?"
- Johnny Bravo
There's nothing wrong with it, should be in everyones wardrobe.
Although it can be a bit boring at times ,cause admit it.., we are spoiled. It's one of those scents you're glad you can rely on, when you need something classy and easy to wear at the same time. Wasn't this a winner of the BN award a few years back?
Classic scent IMO. Not everyone's cup of tea but hey, what hasn't it's detractors?
Things are things because of Mind--Zen Buddhist saying
I totally agree with hirch_duckfinder!
The fragrance is named Vetiver, but there's too much tobacco in it! A friend of mine smelt it once and after the fading of the top notes he instantly said it smelt like cigarrette smoke... The top notes are amazing, some heart too, but the tobacco really makes it annoying. It last forever, but It's definetely an "another time fragrance".
I'm thinking about swapping it.
If you have a problem with the tobacco note in the original, the problem has been solved with Guerlain Vetiver Extreme. NO TOBACCO. This one is very nice. Extremely woodsy, and slightly oriental feel in the drydown. I prefer this to FM - Vetiver Extraordinaire, L'occitane - Vetyver...
My favorite vetiver is still Creed - OV, but this one is right behind it. Seriously, give this one a try before you discount it because it is a sibling to the original. It is significantly different! I believe that Guerlain Vetiver Extreme is an exclusive at Sephora.
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I got my blind bottle of GV right after I bought my blind bottle of Creed's OV. What a disappointment! OV is so much better. GV came out 'nasty' on my skin. I traded it away.
"We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force." Ayn Rand...
"The essence of fascism is to make laws forbidding everything and then enforce them selectively against your enemies."
It is very tempermental on my skin. On some days it lasts all day; others it is gone in a flash. Sometimes the citrus comes out, sometimes the base, sometimes no vetiver at all.
I have to say the older juice was not as tempermental or citrusy, but unfortunately for me, that bottle jammed up on me. I'll have to dissect that bottle apart. Damn them.
In rotation: Greenbriar (new), Silver Mountain Water, Dunhill for Men (1934), Acqua di Parma Colonia, Habit Rouge EDC, Ho Hang, B*Men, Agua Brava
The tobacco note might be heavy for some (and that too if applied heavily). I dont find any faults in this classic. The vetiver note is very well balanced and the diverse citrus top notes and the tobacco/spicy base give it lots of character. You cant beat the price too ($20 at many discount retailers!). Alongwith Creeds OV/Vetiver'48, and Malle's Vetiver, this is a regular in my vetiver rotaton.
It is painful for me to imagine how the original formulation must have smelt. Well, the pain is taken away a bit when some basenoters claim that the differences are not that significant. I suppose the present one lacks a bit of "bite" quality, "nose catching", as I use to say. It is too indifferent. And that's the problem of this one: While Creed's Original Vetiver - subtle in its own rights - overpowers by sheer beauty, the Guerlain one has not this specific feature. It could be depth and a certain "nastiness" (the kind I picture when considering Michael Caine to be a wearer of Vetiver, according to our most beloved perfumeshrine).
So she's like... like, it's SO Totally Old-Man-ish?? ewww???
And I'm like, Shut Up??!!! Whatever???!!!
And she goes... I'm SO TOTALLY not talking to you today???
Wow; I'm on the other side of the planet, and yet my wife gives me the EXACT same response!
I reserve wearing this stuff for when I know I'll be outdoors or when I know I'm the only one around. It's a comfortable frag for me, but I don't think most people I hang out with would appreciate it's "Classicness." I preferred the older juice (pre-2000), but they're not so different that I totally gave up on Guerlain's version. I still think Frederic malle's Vetiver Extraordinaire beats it handily.
My only, and I mean only, complaint is lack of longevity on my skin. I am amazed that someone can detect notes from this fragrance after one shower, much less two.
I have not tried the Extreme version, but it sounds intriguing.
There's nothing whatsoever wrong with Guerlain Vetiver. It's just that Vetiver Extraordinaire, Route du Vetiver, and Villoresi's Vetiver are all more daring and distinctive.
I'm really making friends on these threads, aren't I?
It smells like bathroom disinfectant. Yes, the stuff used to clean dirty Kohler bowls.
"The stench / The stench / Of summer sex / And CK Eternity, oh hell yes"
-Fall Out Boy, "Uma Thurman"
I really like this one, but the only problems I have with it are its extreme longevity and the pronounced tobacco note that plays center stage for the remaining 36 hours. It just lasts too long. I remember waking up one morning after having sprayed it on for work the day before. It was still alive and kicking in a major way. Smoke city. I seriously wanted to barf.
I like it but don't wear it. Original Vetiver is the one for me.
You are not your perfume.
are there going to be 97 more of these? it would be better to put up a web site, list one hundred fragrances and let people vote up or down.
regarding Guerlain's vetiver ''' I think it smells womderful citrusy smoky and a bit tropical. I've since learned that Hindus have used vetiver in different forms as a relaxant. I love good vetiver incense for instance. My best friend may insist I open the window. Since it's to hot to open the window, I extinguish the incense and turn the AC up higher briefly.
Dr. Creed, maybe a thread (or two) per week focusing on the top 100 would be good.
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give that shark a cigar!
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