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    Is anyone familiar with Al Rehab, Al Haramain or Swiss Arabian perfume oils?
    These cought my interest recently. Most of them are available in 3ml size and are quite cheap to get, but are they any good? They are all produced in Arabia and I read they are highly regarded in these countries as well as in the US and europe. Any input is highly welcome.
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    I don´t why, but i can´t stand their (Arabian) taste...they love oud in fragrances!!!

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    Oud?? THAT'S THE BEST PART!!
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    it just the fact...i´m not saying i hate aoud...it´s the opposite...i love aoud (Montale or M7).

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    I will make an order the next days for about 30 different arabian oils, mainly Al Rehab and Al Haramain including that famous very expensive combodian oud. The seller told me I can send everything back what I don't like. He told me as well that the quality of Swiss Arabian is not as good as Al Rehab or Al Haramain. Well, I will check that! That will bring me a lot of fun when I receive that order. The oils also evolve over time, only drops are used and they should last all day long. Everything without alcohol.
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    I don't know the companies you mentioned, but I do live in Saudi Arabia and have a little experience with these types of products.

    I have bought products from local or regional specialists such as Ajmal, Arabian Oud, and Al-Qureshi.

    If you're talking about oud based oils, you can buy the pure oils from countries such as India or Cambodia. These can go from moderately expensive to extremely expensive. It probably depends upon the provenance of the specific product, but I believe Indian oil is generally regarded as superior, at least here in Saudi.

    I own several types of pure oud oil. I like them, find them interesting, even wear them occasionally. But I actually prefer the blends. I like there to be something else going on besides the oud smell. The pure oud oil is very dark and tarlike in smell. I like it to be lightened with various florals and sweeter woods, but many local men wear the pure oil, especially on auspicious occasions. Unless you've grown up with the smell of pure oud you will probably find the blends to be more complex and enjoyable.

    Some of the oil blends can be extremely pleasant. Arabian Oud sells various blends named after local cities and towns such as Riyadh, Taif, Jeddah, and so on. And generally, if you find something named after royalty, such as AbdulAziz blend, it will be one of the better products. Some of the blends are very impressive.

    Aside from the oud oils and blends you may also find amber and other wood oils, and many types of flower oils. The flower oils and blends are marketed towards women, but some of them smell oh so wonderful. Many of them are quite sweet and flowery, and while I wouldn't wear them myself, they sure are nice to smell!

    Most of these companies offer lines of spray, but most of what they sell are oils. These are pure and without alcohol. They are somewhat awkward to apply if you aren't used to doing it. Normally the bottles come with tops that have applicators attached, or you can simply use your fingers.

    It doesn't usually require very much, a little swab to either side of the neck should do it. They oils are typically quite potent and long lasting, especially the oud based ones. You might be smelling it for days. In fact, based on my conversations with many of the locals, staying power is a prime consideration in the quality of a fragrance. And although Western style fragrances are definitely popular here, the traditional oils are still widely used and respected.

    The oils don't behave like Western style fragrances. They are more linear in design, rather than being based on a pyramid of scents. Generally what you smell at the beginning is what you're going to smell later. Of course there will be some minor changes, especially with the blends, and generally the oud will outlast everything, but don't expect the topnotes, middle notes, and basenotes sort of thing.

    I hope this helps. I'd say go for it and try to get as wide a variety of products as you can.

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    I think I got some of these gifted to me, by ajmc. Perhaps if he's reading this thread he can comment. I dropped mine on the floor soon after I got them, and cracked the vials. The bag in the garbage smelled pretty nice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    I think I got some of these gifted to me, by ajmc. Perhaps if he's reading this thread he can comment. I dropped mine on the floor soon after I got them, and cracked the vials. The bag in the garbage smelled pretty nice...
    The only one i own is Mukhalat Malaki (parfum) by Swiss Arabian. It is very strong. I smell mostly rose, oud and sandalwood. About mid way through the very long dry down, i get the distinct smell of saffron. This is the best saffron i have ever smelled in a fragrance. After a good 2 to 3 hours it calms down. And like noggs said, it is extremely
    long lasting.

    Mike, i think my heart heart just sank a little. Along with the MM, i sent you samples of Green Papua, Oud Shuyukh, Borneo 3000 and Oud Royal -- some of the best pure oud oils around, all by Oriscent. All of them broke?
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    Wow, thanks for that great post noggs.
    These oils I'm currently interested in are all blends and most are very cheap. Most of them cost €3 - €5 for 3ml. They come in glass Roll On's with box. A lot of them are bakhoors, attars or mokhalats. Mokhalat means mixture as far as I could inform myself. Most contain these ingredients in various doses: oud, sandalwood, amber, musk, rose taifi and jasmin, sometimes cardamom, carnation, vetiver, moss and even vanilla is listed. So for €60 - €70 I can get a lot of these tiny oils and the best part is I can send them back if I'm not 100% satisfied. Well, that does the trick for me. Of course I'm very interested in everything oud and if it's a blend it's perfect. If just two or three of these oils are winners to me, it's well worth it. Maybe I find a Montale Black Oud clone in oil form.
    That's funny, because I saw some oils that are labeled to smell like Cool Water for men, Contradiction, Poison by Dior, Polo Green and a lot of other designer fragrances. Even a One Man Show clone is available. I will order some of these too, €3,00 for 3ml and the offer to give them back if I don't like them is promising enough for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajmc View Post
    The only one i own is Mukhalat Maliki (parfum) by Swiss Arabian. It is very strong. I smell mostly rose, oud and sandalwood. About mid way through the very long dry down, i get the distinct smell of saffron. This is the best saffron i have ever smelled in a fragrance. After a good 2 to 3 hours it calms down. And like nogs said, it is extremely
    long lasting.

    Mike, i think my heart heart just sank a little. Along with the MM, i sent you samples of Green Papua, Oud Shuyukh, Borneo 3000 and Oud Royal -- some of the best pure oud oils around, all by Oriscent. All of them broke?
    Yes - so, it was you ajmc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr.creed View Post
    Is anyone familiar with Al Rehab, Al Haramain or Swiss Arabian perfume oils?
    These cought my interest recently. Most of them are available in 3ml size and are quite cheap to get, but are they any good? They are all produced in Arabia and I read they are highly regarded in these countries as well as in the US and europe. Any input is highly welcome.
    I bought a couple of AL Haramain Ouds (3ml) vials. I have not regretted a single purchase (two Ebay sellers). My reference is Montale perfumes and some Indian oudhs (2 pure, 1 blended). I plan to try and get more oils, until I find a real gem that pleases me. And then I will get a real bottle. So far that has not happened. My first Indian oudh, a gift, still ranks tops. I have the impression that one cheaper oudh has been diluted a little. Nice smell from the beginning, but not very potent. The best one I own stinks fiercely for about 20 minutes, but then it turns to something wonderful and stays with me for longer than just a day.

    I would also like a nice oudh blend. Fragrance notes are not well described on Ebay, unfortunately. I would love blends similar to Black Aoudh and Montale's Attar but I need recommendations. Arabian oudh names mean nothing to me and what seems to be missing is an Oriental perfume guide written by either a western expert, or someone from the Orient who is familiar with western perfumery. - Or I should travel more...

    Is there any specific recommendations for amber oils? I have one from India, but it doesn't come near the quality of the solid Amber from L'Artisans. .
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    You probably know the first two already, but here are some links anyway. I've added ones for Ajmal and Arabian Oud, as those are companies I'm familiar with. I can't find links for Al-Qureshi or Al-Wazir, two other Saudi companies I've bought from, but they also sell some very fine stuff.

    http://www.haramainperfumes.com.au/default.aspx

    http://www.al-rehab.com/client/home/main_home.php

    http://www.arabianoud.com/en02/default.asp

    http://www.ajmalperfume.com/Home.aspx

    If you like the Montale oud products you shouldn't have any problem finding something just as good from any of these companies.

    For example, Ajmal, from the U.A.E., probably the best known, makes a wide variety of products, many of which are directly comparable to some of the Montale products. The only difference is that the Ajmal stuff will cost you $15-$30 while the Montale stuff will cost you $100-$200.

    To be fair, the Montale products are generally a little bit more refined and smoother than the lower priced Ajmal line, but based on my experience, a $20 Ajmal will get you 90%-95% of the way to a much more expensive Montale. You pay a lot for that little bit of extra refinement. And the more expensive Ajmal products more than hold their own against the Montales.

    I find it interesting that Montale oud products have such a reputation in Europe and the U.S., and are considered so strong and unusual. I've been living in Saudi Arabia for seven years, and have visited all the Gulf countries. Oud is not an unusual fragrance here. There are so many companies in various countries in the region producing oud based scents. Even people here may buy Montale products for the name or price, but the type of products they offer are certainly nothing out of the ordinary.

    Good luck with your oils! I'm sure you'll enjoy them.

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    I recomend both Oriscent and TigerFlag Perfumeries - both are very good suppliers of oud scents.

    Some of the most mysterious scents I own are oud oil compositions. I think I prefer the oil base to alcohol base of most perfumes. The scent stays closer to the skin. I've tested those from Oriscent and admire the Borneo 3000 as well as Oud Royale - I own a bottle of each. The Borneo may be out of stock by now - these are all small batch blends that vary quite a bit from mixing to mixing. So test first! Some ouds have a raw animalic quality and many are just very dark and tarlike with sulfuric odors - truly strange brews. The quality varies widely and the style of fragrance varies too depending upon the mixture of added ingredients. The blends can be terribly good or equally as bad too. The best ouds are quite expensive - test well before you buy! All of the Oriscent products are very well made and intriguing.

    The Borneo 3000 has a deep mysterious oud presence that is offset by a minty sparkling floral note. It dances with abandon in the midst of a dark mystery. This oil is a pure aphrodesiac for the lady in my life! The Oud Royale is a bit more sombre but also has that contrast of dark mystery and sparkling light - it's not quite as sparkling as the B3K and more of a deep mysterious incense presence.

    I have also tried numerious oud based blends from Tigerflag Perfumery. They are much less expensive, but are all very nicely blended and normally are an agarwood and sandalwood blend with other key notes to add variety. These all have an Arabian influence however the perfumer's primary focus is natural ingredients and fragrances that appeal to people who are hyper allergic to chemical odors.

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    I think you get what you pay for. I got me Mokhalat al Oud, The Man, and Secret Man from al-Rehab and Mokhalat Dubai from Crown Perfumes (probably off the same ebay seller), at 2,50, based on what seemed interesting notes. They are definitely different from European-style fragrances, most remind me of what it smells like in Indian stores here (the mixture of incenses, cosmetics, soaps etc. they offer), interesting, a bit cheap and with some I'm quite certain they contain synthetics. The al-Oud has what I suppose is a distinctive Oud note, but I know too little to judge its quality, the general impression is quite urinal cakey, Secret Man smells like shower gel (a modern aquatic), The Man is spicy-green (both have a synthetic feel to them). Mokhalat Dubai smells a bit like industrial lubricant on the outset and then goes rosy-woody. Keep in mind that I'm an utter dilettante when it comes to Near East perfumes, but the ones I've tried I would class as decent drug store fragrances. Fun, but don't expect to get genuine Mysore sandalwood, rose attar and vintage oud at these prices
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_good_life View Post
    I think you get what you pay for. I got me Mokhalat al Oud, The Man, and Secret Man from al-Rehab and Mokhalat Dubai from Crown Perfumes (probably off the same ebay seller), at 2,50, based on what seemed interesting notes. They are definitely different from European-style fragrances, most remind me of what it smells like in Indian stores here (the mixture of incenses, cosmetics, soaps etc. they offer), interesting, a bit cheap and with some I'm quite certain they contain synthetics. The al-Oud has what I suppose is a distinctive Oud note, but I know too little to judge its quality, the general impression is quite urinal cakey, Secret Man smells like shower gel (a modern aquatic), The Man is spicy-green (both have a synthetic feel to them). Mokhalat Dubai smells a bit like industrial lubricant on the outset and then goes rosy-woody. Keep in mind that I'm an utter dilettante when it comes to Near East perfumes, but the ones I've tried I would class as decent drug store fragrances. Fun, but don't expect to get genuine Mysore sandalwood, rose attar and vintage oud at these prices
    Ha, Mokhalat al Oud, The Man and Mokhalt Dubai was on my to try list. Of course one cannot expect great quality for the price, but I thought it's more about the blend and the exotic feel than purest, natural ingredients. Good to hear they smell quite synthetic and the general impression fails to get all hooked with these cheap arabian perfume oils. I will think once more about this whole order now, that's for sure. Maybe I'll concentrate more on Al Haramain. From the outside it looks to me as if they are a bit better quality-wise than the other brands. The prices are a bit higher as well.
    Btw. Crown Perfumes is Al Rehab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr.creed View Post
    Ha, Mokhalat al Oud, The Man and Mokhalt Dubai was on my to try list. Of course one cannot expect great quality for the price, but I thought it's more about the blend and the exotic feel than purest, natural ingredients. Good to hear they smell quite synthetic and the generaral impression fails to get all hooked with these cheap arabian perfume oils. I will think once more about this whole order now, that's for sure. Maybe I'll concentrate more on Al Haramain. From the outside it looks to me as if they are a bit better quality-wise, than the other brands. The prices are a bit higher as well.
    Btw. Crown Perfumes is Al Rehab.
    . The one I'd go for is Dubai, this is purely subjective, of course, but as it dries down it exudes a certain [watch out, cliché] "Omar Sharif" sophistication. I'm wearing them all on my arm right now, reeking like a Damascene harlot, and this is the only one that delivers, IMHO.
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    All this discussion and I can't find anywhere that they could be purchased online. Is there a place?
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    I agree with The Good Life. You do get what you pay for. It's an excellent point and something that had not been adressed.

    While some Middle Eastern perfumers may be able to produce a product as good or better than a more expensive European product, there are several factors involved. Labor costs and overhead, taxes, and possibly ingredient costs are lower in the Middle East. But even here there is a big difference in quality between lower priced goods and higher priced ones.

    I haven't bought any oils priced as low as the ones being mentioned in this thread. But I have to agree that at that price you won't be getting the best quality. It will still be a fun experiment, and it's probably not a good idea to spend big bucks on something you can't try out first.

    I have the luxury of going to a shop and dabbing myself with the stuff before I buy it. I'm positive that I wouldn't spend anywhere the same amount of money on any oil blend that I couldn't test first.

    Based on my buying experiences here, high quality oil blends are going to cost more on the level of $8 per ml. and up. Most of the ones I own cost from $12-$25 per ml. The best pure oud oil costs around $200 per ml. or even more.

    Remember that these are pure, undiluted oils, even the blends. You're not buying a EDT or something that's 4%-8% oil, but something that's 100% oil.

    As a side note, in my opinion, when the typical Middle Eastern perfumer tries to come up with a European style scent, they fail. For example, Ajmal's traditional Arabian scents are fine, but I find their line of Euro scents to be boring at best, and sometimes crude. I've gotten to where I don't even bother with any of them, but stick to what they do best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrd4t View Post
    All this discussion and I can't find anywhere that they could be purchased online. Is there a place?
    This is the site I found and spent some hours reading. German site mind you. I don't think he ships outside of europe. First link is Al Rehab, second is Al Haramain mixed with Swiss Arabian:

    http://www.oriental-style.de/index.php?list=KAT42

    http://www.oriental-style.de/index.php?list=KAT24


    Some descriptions sound very, very interesting ....
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    OOhh, hot diggity:

    http://www.islamicjewellery.co.uk

    Ships all over the place.. and ships cheaply
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    This meadow has become blooming with fine flowers to pick! I am glad meeting serious fans here plus one true insider. I'll check out the sources mentioned and will be back later.
    As concerns makers names: it seems That I am familiar with a few without realizing it. So far, I had believed that 'Al Haramain' or 'Mokalat' (Mukhalath) described a certain type of oudh rather than naming the maker or 'brand'. Several e-traders offer these in (obviously) different qualities. I am still trying to sort that out. E-Shops I ordered from were:


    The latter used to ship by surface mail for free within 2-3 weeks (Europe). Unfortunately he has had no oils for sale in the past two weeks. Both shops have small testers on sale. Expensive oudhs in 0.25 ml units, others as 1 or 3 ml samples. Both shops offer straight forward sales, and a lot of items for bidding. I believe that I got what I paid for one way or the other, including charcoal chips of oudh.
    I noticed that the color of oudh oils seems to vary from light amber to brown-black. In contrast to Montale EDP's, and with the exception of one oil, all oudh fragrances are rather close to the skin, like 3 - 5 inches.
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    Swiss Arabian and Haramain are the bottom of the barrel in Arabic perfumery.
    Abd el Samad Al Quraishi, Ajmal, Yas and Arabian Oud are the best.

    Mainstream Arabic sprays cost a fraction of what Montale is charging, but truth be said: Motale's mastery of Arabic perfumery is better than all I have seen in the Gulf, though his prices are extremely vile.

    Ajmal and the rest of the good houses sell niche oud-based oils and sprays at VERY high prices, but that's solely because of the raw elements--Indian oud and Ta'if rose (unalloyed).

    There's no good way for you to buy online, if you ask me. You will be ripped off and mislead. Come to Dubai and buy your oils from brick-and-mortar shops and boutiques.

    It takes YEARS of experience to be able to discern the differences between good and bad in Arabic perfumery.

    Montale's frags are superb but ridiculously priced.
    Over here in Dubai, Montale sells his fragrances at a fraction of what he charges you in his boutique and through online vendors.
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    I know it's quite naiv to believe these "cheap" perfume oils by Al Rehab, Al Haramain and Swiss Arabian are satisfying. But what's cheap, what's expensive? 3ml for 3 Euro makes 1ml for 1 Euro. Yes, of course there's packaging involved also, but if I sum that up to Montale's prices, I get 100ml for 122 Euro. All in all that is not so expensive, or these oils are not so cheap, it depends how you're looking at it, but the main factor may be that the oils are oils and Montale is a niche brand that wants to be payed for not only the raw materials, but also the genius of the masterly blend. A Skoda is no Mercedes me thinks, but it will get you from point A to B as well, .... more or less.

    At the end of the day I think these Al Rehab, Tihama, Al Haramain and Swiss Arabian oils would be fun to test, but won't be recognized after a few weeks of owning. In one word: forgettable. I have not tested them yet, but out of curiosity I will order four or five blends and instead pluck down the big money for quality and therefor I'll probably go for a 100ml bottle of Black Aoud by Montale. There have been a lot of raves here on basenotes and I haven't forgotten that. To hear Montale and especially Black Aoud mentiond so often as TOP NOTCH from Aoud Insiders who live in Arabia is quite sensational for me. From the outside I would have guessed that there are many, many small distributers or niche brands in that area that have the real, absolutely unbelievable aoud blends, which make everybody week i the knee who's lucky enough to be in the trail we call sillage.
    No! Montale is the reference! Sensational and quite impressive! Maybe because I know some Montales and have no clue about aoud oils, aoud oil blends or these horrendous priced Borneos, Combodians and alikes.

    It was just yesterday I pulled out those two Black Aoud samples I own and to my surprise the sample from Gabriele Krätschmer turns vile and stale after just fifteen minutes. After fifteen minutes the whole concoction smells vile and I hated it all the time therefor. That was my understanding of how Black Aoud by Montale smells. The other sample is from firstinfragrance and this one's far better! Nothing vile, nothing stale, the rose keeps it's head up and the whole thing works!

    By the way Aoud Lime by Montale is another winner for me. I just saw today that there are 50ml bottles available at the Montale homepage. Good idea. I would love to buy Black Aoud in that size and pluck down a little less. Aoud Lime and Black Aoud are quite strong and not much will be needed for one wearing.

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    Hi, Killer_Vavoom. I was hoping that you'd join in this discussion.

    I consider myself a neophyte in the world of Arabian fragrances, and it's very helpful to have sometime who's spent a lifetime with them to talk to.

    As I mentioned in a earlier message in this thread I have bought products from Al-Qurashi, Ajmal, and Arabian Oud, all of whom have shops in my area. I'm not familiar with Yas. What can you tell me about them?

    Could you recommend any specific products from these companies that I could look into? When I go into these shops its usually the clerk handing me stuff to smell. It would be nice to go in there and ask for something, having some ideas to begin with.

    Any recommendations or advice is greatly appreciated. Good to see you in here, neighbor!

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    Hello neighbor

    Noggs, your input is awesome in this department. I noticed your interest in Arabic perfumery a while ago and think you are doing a great job.

    Yas is a UAE based perfumer. Here are some links:

    http://www.yas-perfume.com/

    http://www.ibnbattutamall.com/storec...sp?Store_ID=40

    As for recommendations from the other houses--if you still haven't looted Siraj by Arabian Oud, you gotta grab one the soonest. It was discontinued in the UAE two years ago and I had to travel to Jeddah early this year to get me a few flacons. This is so good. Rose and oud in a superior concoction. Unisex and has all the virtues of a perfect scent.
    Also, if you manage to find Bahrain, then consider yourself to be very lucky. It's Oud, Iris and clary sage. Such a great men's scent.

    More thoughts later
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    Thanks, Killer_Vavoom!

    I'll be stopping by Arabian Oud this weekend to see if I can find Siraj and Bahrain.

    BTW, are you familiar with any scents by Al-Wazir, from Saudi Arabia? What do you think about them? I've seen them only in spray form, not the oils.

    With all the talk recently about summer fragrances, it has finally dawned on me that oud based fragrances perform really well in the heat. I don't know why it took me so long to figure this out.

    Gulf area Arabs have been wearing this scent for centuries, if not even longer. It's extremely hot here. I finally put the two together (duh!) and began wearing some of my oud scents this summer. While the oud is very strong and persistent, it is also quite dry, and has a tonic, bracing effect against the heat. It certainly works better in the heat than the majority of European style fragrances!

    Looking forward to more recommendations and info from you.

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    Over here in Dubai, Montale sells his fragrances at a fraction of what he charges you in his boutique and through online vendors.
    Can you tell how much the price in Dollar is for a 100ml bottle of Black Aoud in Dubai? Just very curious about the prices they ask for it in Arabia.
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    What do you pay in Europe or in the U.S.?

    I've bought a couple of Montale Aoud products (Aoud Damascus and Aoud Lime) here in Saudi Arabia, but to be honest I don't remember exactly how much they cost. I remember them costing about the same as most other stuff.

    But I'm sure it was well under $100US, perhaps more like $60-$75. I think the Black Aould would be about the same. Maybe Killer_Vavoom can confirm this.

    Amouage products are also considerably cheaper here. I think these may cost $200 or more in the U.S., but I'm not sure. I've bought bottles of Gold, Silver, and Dia for around $100 per bottle.

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    122.00 Euro or 166.737 US Dollar for a 100ml Black Aoud bottle
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    Montale frags - Aoud or not - all sell for the same price here in the UAE, Kuwait and Saudi.
    A 100ml bottle sells for what's equal to US $ 65.

    Unfortunately, shipping perfumes by air has been stopped in the UAE.

    Also, before I forget, if you want to buy a fragrance from Swiss Arabian, get Kashkha oil or spray. It's their best and by Montalian standards it should be quite good. It's their best unisex seller.

    Noggs, I'm aware of Al-Wazir perfumes (Wazir means minister). They are supposed to be half way between commercial and niche, in terms of quality and artistry.

    You HAVE to try Abdul Samad Qurashi's white musk. It's terrific.

    I love Amouge's vintage perfumes but they don't represent the traditional Arabic perfumery.
    It's all built on Oman's silver frankincense.

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    Killer_Vavoom, if I go into the Al-Qurashi shop and simply ask for "white musk", will I get what you are recommending? Does it go by any other name?

    I have one of their oil blends, which is the most expensive fragrance I own. I never did figure out the name of it, but it is a very high quality oud based mixture. It is truly sublime. I may have to take it with me when I return so that I can learn its name. Unfortunately the staff there do not speak any English, and my Arabic is only basic, so it can be difficult.

    I wish more of the Montale products were available here. All I can find are perhaps a half dozen of the Aoud line and the three products which I believe are only for the Gulf market, Deluziont (which I own), Aragon, and another I can't remember. I wouldn't mind testing some of their other fragrances.

    I've had a brief sniff of some of the Wazir line. I even bought one of them. I can't remember the name in Arabic, but the salesmen told me it meant "first light of day", or something like that. It's a spray, and boy, is it powerful

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    Noggs, you simply ask for their white musk and you are served It's very thick and usually the residue in the big flacon is milk-white, unlike the clear top. It's the most sublime white musk I ever tried. Serge Lutens' Claire de Musc is very close to it, in fact. You can layer it with so many fragrances as it augments their sillage and adds to their tenacity.

    I know the pain of having to struggle with non-English speaking salespersons, but thankfully Arabic is my mother tongue You simply carry the perfume bottle and tell them: *shoo ism hadi?* (what's the name of this?) and they will tell you the name--provided they know what they are selling.

    Check for Al Jazeera Perfumes in Saudi for the whole Montale range. It could be somewhere in a mall in Jeddah or Riyadh.

    Also, wait till Ramadan starts (the fasting month) which will commence on the 13th of September, as these shops tend to make fabulous offers during that month.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_Vavoom View Post
    Also, wait till Ramadan starts (the fasting month) which will commence on the 13th of September, as these shops tend to make fabulous offers during that month.
    Mumtaz! I'll have to save my money for that for sure. Could be some serious funds depletion happening.

    Shukran, habibi!

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    Shukran, habibi!

    That sounds funny! :brolly:

    You know what?

    I just ordered a rather big collection of those Al Haramain and Al Rehab oils today. I have no clue what awaits me, but I'm so curious and the descriptions made on the site, do they really match the scents? I will try and test and try again. I will examinate the drydowns and longevity and I will try to sniff out every single note listed in the descriptions! I have saved the written mail from the seller that I can send back what I don't like and of course that's what I'm gonna do if I'm not pleased with the result of an oil. But I want to take it to the next stage or level. Maybe the oils alone won't do and won't go anywhere - there's still the possibility of blending it with something that I already own. No. 88 on on an oriental vacation oud bakhoor trail or some fruity Rykiel Homme toned down to death with an amber, moss, sandalwood, vetiver and oud combination? If they should smell synthetic I'm gonna bring life to them with some natural ingredients!

    If they should be dull and unuseful, I send them back the day I receive them ....

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    I am still trying to solve puzzles while working my way through the valuable links you guys offered. Thank you both, Killer and Noggs! For me some of the web catalogs are mainly about fancy little flacons, and (recurring) names which mean nothing to the newcomer from Europe. My impression: it is more the rule than an exception that fantastic associations are used to describe fragrances, rather than naming supporting notes/oils in oudh blends. Maliki, Mokhalat, 'noor' etc: I googled in vain for the actual meaning of such terms.

    Sometimes no prices can be found for items listed by the major makers, or if you find the price, you can only guess that it may be for one Tola (an Indian/ Arabian weight unit (?) which corresponds to a little less than 12 ml. But how do I know if it is not for 1/2 Tola? Both seem to be current units, maybe corresponding to our 50ml and 100ml cologne bottles. Is 1/4 T (3ml) the biggest tester, or already a perfume size? I also got the impression that e-traders located in the Orient never heard of Paypal before, quel domage! In the end I resorted back to my favorite UK dealer who knows what buyers over here are curious about, and I ordered a few samples yesterday, including two rose blends and a tiny amount of real wood. Thanks for inspiring me, Doctor Creed ...

    On a side line: has anybody heard of a cologne by Al Rehab called 'Paris-Dakar' ? I wonder if it is any good.
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    I just saw that 5ml of a 5% concentration Cambodian Oud from Primavera cost 58 euros. So figure out how much quality Oud a 2,50 Euro perfume contains
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    Hey guys. Just to give you all a heads up. Arabian oud now has an official e-site that ships to the united states. This just launched a month ago or so. By the way, they are all on sale right now.

    http://www.arabianoud.co.uk/flash.php

    I just ordered a bunch of these and they should be here in a few days. I already own Fajer and i must say that this is highly recommended. If you want a good into into the Oud world without the heavyness, This is a good start. It is very fresh and long lasting. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_good_life View Post
    I just saw that 5ml of a 5% concentration Cambodian Oud from Primavera cost 58 euros. So figure out how much quality Oud a 2,50 Euro perfume contains
    Oh yes, the price of quality oud can be horrendous, that's nothing new. In my case it's all about the blending of different notes. I could have ordered 1ml of that combodian oud for 15 Euro together with my order, but refused. I'm not looking for the purest, most authentic oud oil, for me it's all about how the differnt notes are blended in these oils. I expect some stuff I haven't experienced yet. Arabian style blending! - heavy, unwearable little monsters! :bounce:

    The fillings I ordered by Al Haramain are also available in beautiful flacons and packaging with more content, then they aren't so cheap anymore.
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    I have Sultan by Swiss Arabian...its is an awesome rose/oud fragrance its higly reccomend...I have the edt spray I believe...

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    Here's the stuff I ordered, can't wait to try them: :bounce:

    Perfume oil Oudy by Al Rehab, Mokhalat Dubai by Al Rehab, Mukhallat Haramain by Al Haramain, Mukhallat Al Oud by Al Haramain, Shaikha by Al Haramain, Bakhoor al Madni,
    Shaikha by Swiss Arabian, Attar Al Bakhoor by Al Haramain, Laiali Al Sharq by Al Rehab, Perfume oil Original by Al Rehab, Mukhallat Sawsan by Al Haramain, Mukhallat Al Khaleej by Al Haramain, Mukhallath Al Rehab by Al Haramain, Attar al Bukhoor by Swiss Arabian, Al Haramain Collection by Al Haramain, Mukhallat Malaki, Misk Hindi, Dhan El Ood by Swiss Arabian, Tarkeeb, Bakhoor Al-Arais by Tihama

    I will try and review these here when I'm familiar enough with them.
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    Just found another thumb up for Sultan by Swiss Arabian Perfumery here on basenotes by iMaverick:

    This is my first Arabic scent purchased at quite a good price also. It came in a nice presentation, a wood like box with 2 doors that swing open and nested in ruffled satin sits the 100ml bottle of Eau de Parfum which cost under $40. I don't think you'd find any EdP for that kind of price.

    Swiss Arabia is known to use well sought-after raw materials supplied by Givaudan-Roure that come through in these exotic perfumes. Sultan is a rich oriental with sharp woods, chypre, spices and a pronounced rose note but keeps its over the top masculinity regardless. It opens with a bright yet warm fruit note (not candied), then the rose blooms bright with the help of saffron and other spice, sandalwood and agarwood, then dries down with musk, more agarwood, and vetiver.

    This smells like a classic Arabic composition, heady and powerful, you can't mistake it from anything else. You can wear this with a black tshirt and jeans, to a dark wool sweater and cords, right up to a tuxedo--it seems versatile enough to me. It's powdery chypre nature reminds me a little of Antaeus without the stuffiness. This is for the guy who dares to wear a rose scent, but afraid of thinking he'll smell too soft with it. No mistaking what gender this scent is made for. Rather heady, think twice however about wearing this to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr.creed View Post
    (1) ... Dhan El Ood by Swiss Arabian, Tarkeeb, Bakhoor Al-Arais by Tihama ....

    (2) Just found another thumb up for Sultan by Swiss Arabian Perfumery here on basenotes by iMaverick:
    This is my first Arabic scent purchased at quite a good price also. It came in a nice presentation, a wood like box with 2 doors that swing open and nested in ruffled satin sits the 100ml bottle of Eau de Parfum which cost under $40. I don't think you'd find any EdP for that kind of price.....
    Thank you! iMaverick's reviews are often 'just right' for me. Could you please link me to the source? I might want to read this in its context.

    'Dahn EL Ood' and Haraman's (and others) Dehn Al Oud /Dehnal Oud seem to refer to the same thing - but are they? I wonder if the the original Arabic script would be the same. I have noticed similar Roman spelling in other names, and it doesn't bother me. But maybe you want to compare some of these when we both have them. Al Haramain offer a wide spectrum of qualities. Their high end stuff compares well with Arabian Oud pricewise. London seems to be the nearest market place for oriental goods. My barrier is the present price of, say, a bottle of Tabac Blond which I have wanted for a while.

    Somebody brought me a bottle of an EDT called Nawaf. There was no box with it, and I do not remember what it cost me, but it wasn't much. It has a smell of it's own and is difficult to describe - think of Lutens Gris Clair, or Encens et Lavande. Maybe someones interested in Oriental perfumes already knows Nawaf, and who makes it. Google doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    Thank you! iMaverick's reviews are often 'just right' for me. Could you please link me to the source? I might want to read this in its context.

    'Dahn EL Ood' and Haraman's (and others) Dehn Al Oud /Dehnal Oud seem to refer to the same thing - but are they? I wonder if the the original Arabic script would be the same. I have noticed similar Roman spelling in other names, and it doesn't bother me. But maybe you want to compare some of these when we both have them. Al Haramain offer a wide spectrum of qualities. Their high end stuff compares well with Arabian Oud pricewise. London seems to be the nearest market place for oriental goods. My barrier is the present price of, say, a bottle of Tabac Blond which I have wanted for a while.

    Somebody brought me a bottle of an EDT called Nawaf. There was no box with it, and I do not remember what it cost me, but it wasn't much. It has a smell of it's own and is difficult to describe - think of Lutens Gris Clair, or Encens et Lavande. Maybe someones interested in Oriental perfumes already knows Nawaf, and who makes it. Google doesn't.

    Here's the review:
    http://www.basenotes.net/ID26121536.html

    As far as I know now, the denahl oud written variations refer to the same thing: Indian agarwood or indian oud. It seems to me this is the normal, common oud. Maybe like the thing with sandalwood, there's the normal, commonly used sandalwood and there's mysore sandalwood. Of course the mysore sandalwood is far superior to the mass marketed normal sandalwood, but the prices will show as well. By the way I own the mysore sandalwood by Primavera. Ultra 100% authentic indian sandalwood, but for the high price you only get sandalwood, sandalwood and sandalwood, no blend, no other notes involved. Only good for sandalwood lovers and the genius who can pull it off by blending it with other notes.

    I also wanted to buy a 50ml bottle Tabac Blond Extrait once, but in the end I ordered a 5ml decant of it and I only used some drops 'til today. Tabac Blond gets pretty nasty if happily spritzed in pseudo euphorism. Some drops will do with each wearing, so for me buying the very expensive 50ml extrait without the intention to sell a lot of decants doesn't make sense at all IMHO.
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    Dehn al oud and dahn al oud are the same things.

    Dehn/dahn means oil, so dehn/dahn al oud = oud oil.

    There is no standard method of transcribing Arabic characters into English, so you often get various spellings of the same words.

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    The oils have arrived and I had several hours yesterday to test them all. First impressions: They all change more or less over time, some to the better, some to the worse, also a lot of them are dominated by jasmin, making them too feminine and sweet for me to wear. I will send these back. These jasmin bombs often start lovely with more notes, quite balanced, but drift away to flower bouquets, too sweet oriental concoctions and various jasmin blends. Jasmin takes center stage in a lot of these oils and dominates all other notes like oud, musk, vetiver, moss or amber.

    Now the good news: From all the oils ordered there are three that are absolute winners for me. First of all there's Misk Hindi. This instantly gives the impression of Musc Khublai Khan! It doesn't change much, it's slightly sweeter and not so well balanced as MKK. I tested them side by side. I think if I would meet someone wearing this, there would be no doubt it's Musc Khublai Khan! The oil is black, very strong and lasts a long time. There is no hint which brand it is, it's not labeled as Al Rehab, Al Haramain or Swiss Arabian. This is the first winner to me.

    Second one is Mukhallat al oud by Al Haramain. This smells exactly like the oud bakhoor incense I use for burning on charcoal. An Oud - rose combo plays the main role here, it's really great. Not at all feminine, but quite mysterious and dark. Some spices, a bit of earthy vetiver and maybe amber make it second best of all the oils.

    There are about ten oils that get the rating "good", but I will have to think about it if I keep them or not. Some are really good, but the downside is they are plain boring, which actually doesn't do anything for me. Then there are the hardcore ouds, these are so dark, woody and intensive, they are simply not wearable the first half hour, but they do drydown to a single oud-note, that smells like wood to me. I think these could be great for blending with other oils or even essential oils from the Primavera line. Haramain Collection is all Vanilla, smells like Vanille Bourbon by Yves Rocher to me.
    Best so far is Laiali al Sharq by Al Rehab. It's quite close to Mukhallat al oud by Al Haramain, but it's more masculine and more pronounced on the oud, more harsh it seems. If Mukhallat al oud is unisex, this is masculine. The rose-oud combo is simply fantastic. This one is absolutely fantastic!
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    Thanks for sharing first impressions. From the description it seems that Misk Hindi has a bit of deer musk included. I might follow your recommendations 1-3. For a Jasmin Lover - is there any particular one you could still recommend? I like pure Jasmin as in Lutens A la Nuit, or Montales 'Full'. I also like (semi-) masculine combinations, as in Brut, for example. A small amount of genuine eastern Jasmine would be nice to have for future reference.
    Coming to the 'hardcore' oudhs - if any of them is good, I wouldn't mind the first 20 minutes one bit. According to my limited experience, good oudh sometimes makes you take the route 'per aspera ad astra' .
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    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    Thanks for sharing first impressions. From the description it seems that Misk Hindi has a bit of deer musk included. I might follow your recommendations 1-3. For a Jasmin Lover - is there any particular one you could still recommend? I like pure Jasmin as in Lutens A la Nuit, or Montales 'Full'. I also like (semi-) masculine combinations, as in Brut, for example. A small amount of genuine eastern Jasmine would be nice to have for future reference.
    Coming to the 'hardcore' oudhs - if any of them is good, I wouldn't mind the first 20 minutes one bit. According to my limited experience, good oudh sometimes makes you take the route 'per aspera ad astra' .
    The jasmin blends are all wonderful, even lovely me thinks.

    But honest, jasmin was absolutely the least what I was looking for or what I expected with these oils. I know A la nuit by Lutens, but I'm not familiar with Jasmin Full by Montale. I will have to test these jasmin blends once more to sort them out properly. Yesterday it was mainly a raw classification of one oil after the other. Everything jasmin just went right in one corner. The two strong ouds are very manly, dark, potent oils that might work in summer as well as in wintertime, but as already said, these will get you attention of the different kind when worn in public right after application.

    Edit: I wonder how these oils work out on my fragrance-lamp.
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    In the US

    ThePerfumedCourt = former ebay decanters who are pooling their efforts. Some if not all of them are Basenoters

    http://theperfumedcourt.com/Categori...-and-Oils.aspx

    Arabian Perfumes & Oils ( the trailing number is the number of products they are offering when I copied it. I'm sure it fluctuates.)

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    Dr. Creed- How did you like the aroma of Oudy by Al-Rehab?

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    Dr. Creed- How did you like the aroma of Oudy by Al-Rehab?
    Yes Oudy, I remember it. Definitely an experience to smell. In the end I couldn't wear it and sent it back. The horrorshow in a bottle. Hot stinky narrow street in a big city. Dark, brooding and disturbing.
    I wonder if the notes come out differently in extreme heat. I have found that especially oud can change dramatically to the better when it's really hot outside.
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    Attar Al Kaaba - Al Haramain notes listed as Virgin Amber/Dehnal Oudh/Sandal and Thaif Rose.
    Anyone else tried this?
    Trust me to get a man's perfume! I was intrigued by this thread and others about perfume oils so I thought I'd try one of the ones which had some oudh listed in the notes.
    I bought this from Al-Munawwara on ebay. I figured a small amount (3ml) would be enough to let me test it out properly. My mistake, it will be enough to last me years because you need so little. I don't know how much oudh etc. is in it but it certainly lasts and lasts (it has a bitter smoke edge and lovely rose, not fresh rose but pleasing) I don't have an experienced enough nose to really describe it

    Perhaps someone who knows these perfume oils better than I could suggest a feminine one for me to try as contrast?

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    Attar Al Kaaba is very nice. Lots of amber as is the case with a lot of Al-Haramain mukhallats.
    If you like Attar Al Kaaba, you should like Marwah too. It's not as heavy and though I think it's unisex, it may be a bit better for a woman. There is not a lot of oud in either of these blends.
    If you are looking for high quality mukhallats, check out agarscentsbazaar too. I have found lots of nice stuff over there.

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    is this available online? I couldn't find any sellers?


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    New from Ajmal - gorgeous gift packs that capture the essence of Ajmals masterful packaging:

    COMBO 2007

    A limited edition and affordably priced collection of Ajmal Concentrated Perfume Oils in a gift presentation box with the world famous Ajmal insignia.

    Three perfume bottles with glass interior:

    1) ½ tola White Musk Concentrated Oil Perfume
    2) ½ tola Blend (Mukhallat) Concentrated Oil Perfume
    3) ¼ tola Dhen Al Oud Concentrated Oil Perfume
    $30




    The second offering is slighty bettter packaging and better perfume quality:

    RAMDAN COLLECTION
    A limited edition beautifully presented collection of Ajmal Concentrated Perfume Oils in a gift presentation box with the world famous Ajmal insignia.

    Three metal perfume bottles with glass interior:

    1) ½ tola Aseel White Musk Concentrated Oil Perfume
    2) ½ tola Blend (Mukhallat) Concentrated Oil Perfume
    3) ¼ tola Dhen Al Oud Cambodi Concentrated Oil Perfume

    $40

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    I've just seen the Ajmal Gift Packs on eBay:

    http://tinyurl.com/yas7ojs

    The seller is UK based, but the oils would be coming from the Middle East directly, so I'd imagine they'd ship pretty much anywhere.

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    Hi, I know this is a quite old topic and mostly on men's fragrance attar/perfume oils. I recently got interest in Arabian perfume oil, as I was looking for a healthier alternative to chemical loaded perfumes. To my great disappointemt, there's a lot of good and bad with them as well. I feel I got quite "stuck" at this point, don't know what package labels to trust (al least Rasasi clearly mentions them on their packaging, so I could steer clear (loaded with chemicals banned in the EU), but others, like Al-Rehab I feel they hide quite a lot in those "concentrated perfume, free from alcoholo" standard label. I tried some of the Al-Rehab testers and could clearly smell the petroleum as a base note, although some of the fragrances were quite nice (Balkis for instance). So I totally gave up on Al-Rehab as well. I tried some of Ajmals and they seem quite natural, but don't know whether to trust my feeling or not. I've purchased Al Kaaba and Safeena by Al Haramain, haven't tested them yet (waiting for the delivery).
    So, to cut it short, what feminine perfume oils/attars would you recommended, from a trusted manufacturer that would not adulterate the oils and use any chemical fragrances, fillers, preservatives etc? Not to forget to mention that I also don't want to break the bank with pure ouds for sultans, but something affordable, feminine and most important ALL natural?

    Many thanks for your help.

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    I'm no expert on the subject, but I doubt there's anything truly natural at regular prices. Arabian companies use the same big aromachemical companies that western perfume houses use (some even take pride in them, like Swiss Arabian, where the Swiss part means Swiss-based aromachemical giant Givaudan). In fact, I assume that they don't even use substances banned in the west, given that they use the same companies. (And since we are at that, you are probably aware that European IFRA regulations are driven by aromachemical manufacturers and usually ban *natural* substances, not synthetic ones. For instance, oakmoss and jasmine-yes, jasmine-are now severely restricted with the excuse that they found a person who is allergic to them).

    So in sum I think that apart from some expensive oils you cannot really be sure. Perhaps it's easier to stick to western houses like Aveda or, in niche territory, la via del profumo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cacio View Post
    So in sum I think that apart from some expensive oils you cannot really be sure. Perhaps it's easier to stick to western houses like Aveda or, in niche territory, la via del profumo.
    Thank you for your quick reply. I was wondering which ones are the cheapest of the expensive Arabian oils that I should trust? The thing is that I quite hate the alcohol even in those "natural" products, like Aveda, Jo Wood Organics etc, and that's why I was so excited about switching to Arabian oils as I don't choke when applying the perfume as it happens with the spray ones.
    Any suggestios on the "cheapest" (or good value so to say) expensive oils I should go for? How about Arabian Oud (they have perfume shops in London so I could go there if it's worth the visit) or Al Qurashi (ASAQ)? I don't want pure oud oils or such, but blended oils, a pure mixture of base oils and essential oils...?
    Your advise is much appreciated.
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    Unfortunately, I have relatively few good Arabian oils myself (too expensive!), and there is no way of knowing whether they contain only naturals or not. Even a very expensive oil could contain other substances, which actually improve the smell. Pure oudh oils should be what they say they are; similarly for floral extracts (rose or jasmine). But blends (mukhallat) don't need to be. By Arabian oudh, I own a little bit of oudh Syoufi (indian oudh), which I love, but it's really expensive (something like eur 300 for 3 ml); and a mukhallat called Al Azirya, which smells like a natural saffron rose oudh, though of course there is no guarantee that it is actually made with naturals. Of ASAQ, I own an expensive oud (Qadeem), and a Royal Jasmine (jasmin maliki), which smells like it could be a very indolic jasmine extract. Flower extracts, like the jasmine above or rose, are cheaper than oudh, so perhaps they're worth exploring.

    As you go to the regular, lower priced lines, I don't think these houses are different than the ones you mentioned. The stuff is of very variable quality (in the sense of not smelling good), and certainly not natural. I still remember the blind purchase of a horror by ASAQ named Malik Al Atoor.

    I think London has an Amouage store as well, so you could explore their oils as well. I hope some of our arabian friends will chime in and give further suggestions, though, as said, it is unclear whether you can find much of truly natural.

    cacio

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    Thank you, cacio, I really appreciate the time you spent writing all these staff. You brought light into the darkness. At least I know now I should stop waisting my money and start my own home made fragrance oils... I'll strat searching on the internet for recepies and ways of making my own perfume. Hit or miss, but I'll probably make it in the end...
    Have a nice day!

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    Oh, just before starting my laborious work, is there a way of using these arabian oils on the clothes without staining them, as they are oils obviously (as I read in previous posts as people were mentioning that some of their perfume oils had a very good staying power in their clothes as well -- so, I guess they used them dirrectly on the clothes--)? Silly question, I know, but just asking before giving up entirely on these lovely Arabian fragrances...

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    Not all oils stain (oil doesn't necessarily mean things like olive oil), but some do. Test a hidden area first. Or make sure you apply to areas that are not easily seen (eg inner arm, the lining of a suit, etc). Certainly not the front. You can also apply to a handkerchief and keep it in your pocket, the way people did in the past. And remember that clothes, being colder, project less than the skin, though the perfume is much more durable.

    cacio

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