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    Default Tom Ford for Men - info about the scent, NOT the man, ads, etc...

    I've contributed to a lot of, what I'll call, Tom-Ford-mania here on Basenotes. It can be viciously fun at times, however it's boring to read another thread here on BN about Tom Ford's persona, shocking ad campaign (past and present), other scents that he did when he was with Gucci/YSL, how sexy he is, how repulsive he is, blah blah blah...If you would like to contribute to the endless string of comments on all of the above, please feel free to post on those threads I've linked below:
    http://community.basenotes.net/showthread.php?t=198239
    http://community.basenotes.net/showthread.php?t=197795

    However, on this thread, I would like to discuss the fragrance that it set to be released in September.

    Here is what, I know:

    From the net (mostly courtesy of Womens Wear Daily and the perfume blog, The Scented Salamander):

    - On September 23rd of 2007, Tom Ford for Men will debut at Saks
    - A key ingredient, cypriol, has been added to the mix so as to render it sexy and as a substitute for natural musk
    - The juice, created by Ford in cooperation with International Flavors & Fragrances, opens with Mediterranean hesperdic notes combined with lemon leaf oil, Italian bergamot, mandarin zest, basilic grand vert, violet leaves and ginger. The heart is of Tunisian orange flower absolute, black pepper, tobacco leaf absolute and Moroccan grapefruit flower. The drydown is of deep amber accord, cedarwood heart, Virginia patchouli, vetiver mist, oakmoss, leatherwood and the aforementioned cypriol
    - The ridged clear glass bottle is reminiscent of Ford's Black Orchid women's scent and features an engraved name plaque embellished with 18-karat gold plating. Outer packaging is black with gold accents and a gold label.
    - The scent will be available in two sizes, $55 for 50 ml. and $78 for 100 ml

    From a SA at Neimans, this past Saturday:

    - The scent is very fresh smelling...it is not 'dark' or very strong (sillage) like Black Orchid is
    - The notes he picked out are violet and leather - for sure. He was actually wearing TFfM. My eyes brightened when I heard this! But, no Neiman's didn't have testers, instead all of the Neiman's SA's had gone to a Tom Ford for Men training and been gifted small samples of TFfM. He let me smell his wrist, to smell the drydown. I got no leather at all, but instead something akin to Black Orchid, with a slight effervescence. Perhaps this is the 'vetiver mist' or the cypriol?!
    - He said that the Extreme Version will be released at the same time as the regular version. This is contrary to what WWD said in their press release, so I'm confused. He said he also sampled the Extreme version and loved them both (well, what would you expect the SA to say, no?). He said the regular fragrance is perfect for daytime and the Extreme is more suited to night. He didn't have prices on the Extreme.
    - The SA at Neimans could NOT confirm the September 23rd release date - but then again, TFfM is debuting at Saks, not Neimans.
    - Another SA (a younger woman) said she loved it, and she admitted to disliking Black Orchid.

    So, this is what I know. What do you know (that's 'drama free', please?)
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    Default Re: Tom Ford for Men - info about the scent, NOT the man, ads, etc...

    Mike,

    Thank you for the insider SA review and comments. All I know is that I am I highly intrigued by this upcoming release and looking forward to testing it.

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    Sounds like another discreet men's fragrance. Thank you for the update.

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    Default Re: Tom Ford for Men - info about the scent, NOT the man, ads, etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    The scent will be available in two sizes, $55 for 50 ml. and $78 for 100 ml
    The best part about the fragrance..
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    I still remember someone praying Santa about the first TF men's juice not to smell too crotch-like after smelling Black Orchid.... I guess Santa indeed hear the prayers after reading your Post Mike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zztopp View Post
    The best part about the fragrance..
    And at the same time the most odd. "An engraved name plaque embellished with 18-karat gold plating" together with his high-end approach these days make you wonder why the prices are so low.

    Thanks for the scoop, Mike!
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    Thanks for the update...that sounds very good to me (opens with Mediterranean hesperdic notes combined with lemon leaf oil, Italian bergamot, mandarin zest, basilic grand vert, violet leaves and ginger)...i can´t wait to smell that fragrance.

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    i cannot believe that tom ford for men is created for daytime use when i see the sexy advertising and ingredients like Cypriol. For what is then the intense version :--)
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    Default Re: Tom Ford for Men - info about the scent, NOT the man, ads, etc...

    Perhaps Mr. Ford made the pricing more attractive, so that he could really get his name (and the scent) out there to make a strong statement - to the mens fragrance market?

    Let's face it, this is the first scent for men with HIS NAME in the title. I'm sure it won't be the last.

    I think he wants to hit it out of the ballpark with this one and you really can't do that with a high end price tag, since that would narrow your market base. I think he's looking for TFfM to be the next Terre D'Hermes (or Unforgiveable...) which won awards AND success for the fragrance houses behind them.

    Hopefully if the juice is as wonderful as everyone I've talked to says it is, this most likely will happen.

    MORE IMPORTANTLY: Does anyone know someone who works for Saks Fifth Avenue - who could confirm the 9/23/07 release date and possibly offer more tidbits of info on the scent? I don't...
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    I'm really looking forward to this, and suspect I'm not the only woman here who is!

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    thanks mike for the news, can't wait for a sniff

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    The scent is very fresh smelling...it is not 'dark'.
    *crying*

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    Another SA (a younger woman) said she loved it, and she admitted to disliking Black Orchid.
    Judging by the notes (leaning more on fresh woodsy), as well as knowing most SA's don't have great taste, I'm feeling a bit worried now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niemand View Post
    *crying*
    Judging by the notes (leaning more on fresh woodsy), as well as knowing most SA's don't have great taste, I'm feeling a bit worried now.
    I soooo hope Tom Ford will do a good job, judging by Estee Lauders latest junk (Sean John, DKNY, etc.,etc.) they spit out.

    We will see.

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    Another Update:
    Next in mid-November comes Tom Ford for Men Extreme which will be available in the selective distribution circuit of the Tom Ford boutiques and is presented as the niche version of Tom Ford for Men. This means, as we had noted previously and as confirmed by Tom Ford himself now that it will be a more powerful version of the more mass-marketed one. Here's our own quote regarding the feel of his niche offerings: "The fragrances make big statements; the collection could have been called "Intense" or "Extreme Ford" and it is in this respect that it is the most remarkable since otherwise many of the fragrances can be traced back to other existing fragrances."

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    I hear that September 23 is the launch date for Tom Ford for Men at Saks in Manhattan. An in-store appearance by Tom Ford is expected.

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    Default Re: Tom Ford for Men - info about the scent, NOT the man, ads, etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCure View Post
    I hear that September 23 is the launch date for Tom Ford for Men at Saks in Manhattan. An in-store appearance by Tom Ford is expected.
    Great. Any New York Basenoters gonna attend? Basenotes represent!
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    Default Re: Tom Ford for Men - info about the scent, NOT the man, ads, etc...

    Does anyone know if Holt Renfrew will carry Tom Ford in Canada?

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    Default Re: Tom Ford for Men - info about the scent, NOT the man, ads, etc...

    FYI - SAKS got Tom Ford for men in today...

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    Default Re: Tom Ford for Men - info about the scent, NOT the man, ads, etc...

    Which Saks? What City? Samples/testers? Or in for sale? The regular and the extreme?

    Questions, questions, questions...
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    Default Re: Tom Ford for Men - info about the scent, NOT the man, ads, etc...

    saks in san francisco, the regular, both sizes,,very fresh cmelling very citrusy at first then spices come through good sillage, 2 hours into wearing a muskiness comes through..on display and on sale

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    Default Re: Tom Ford for Men - info about the scent, NOT the man, ads, etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by agml65 View Post
    saks in san francisco, the regular, both sizes,,very fresh cmelling very citrusy at first then spices come through good sillage, 2 hours into wearing a muskiness comes through..on display and on sale
    Did you buy it?

    I'm ultra jealous right now...
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    Default Re: Tom Ford for Men - info about the scent, NOT the man, ads, etc...

    Canada's Holt Renfrew will be carrying the new Tom Ford for men.

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    I am a magazine junkie and I just smelled this in one of those fold-outs in either Details or Men's Journal and hey this (from what little I got off the strip..lol) smells good on my wrist..hmmmm. Love the spiciness. It looks like I will have to order this as I cannot wait until my next travels..HA...

    Well have a great Weekend everybody.

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    Default Re: Tom Ford for Men - info about the scent, NOT the man, ads, etc...

    Thanks c-men (love your basenotes 'name'...hee hee) - but the price of Tom Ford for Men on the Saks website is slightly higher than I mentioned at the beginning of this thread - which I believe I got from the official press release. It was supposed to be $55 for 50ml and $75 for 100ml. Not $85.

    WTF?
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    I just got back from Saks and it was $85 for the 3.4 and $60 for the 1.7. The scent is nice, elegant. I'm no reviewer at all, but it starts off spicy/citrusy and later on it is a bit sweeter/woodsy. For some reason at this point, a tangier, spicier Vera Wang comes to mind. I know, I'm no help! I await other, more experienced noses to give it a proper review.

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    Default Re: Tom Ford for Men - info about the scent, NOT the man, ads, etc...

    OK, I just got back from Saks Fifth Avenue (Ft. Lauderdale). Here's the dirt:

    1. This particular Saks only had the regular Tom Ford for Men (not the Extreme). I was instantly mad (I knew I should have gone to the Bal Harbour Saks!) but I got over it, when the SA pulled out the tester bottle.
    2. Can I just say, the bottle is gorgeous. It's the same shape and ribbed glass as the Black Orchid bottle, but clear. The juice is amber gold, accented by the gold chrome plated nameplate and bottle top. Just beautiful, glitzy and well...luxurious. Tom Ford does good bottle. I kept swishing the bottle around in my hand. The color of the juice and the glass gave me the impression I was holding a palm-sized single-malt scotch bottle. Perhaps anatomically, I wanted to drink it, I couldn't seem to put it back down on the counter? Which reminds me, does anybody else feel the same way about the Gucci Pour Homme bottle, it always reminds me of a highball glass? Anyway, moving on...
    3. The initial top notes are fresh lemony (NOT aquatic fresh - citrus fresh...think Eau Savage-ish) - maybe that's the lemon oil. Nice. The alcohol(ic) top notes fade quickly (which I was ok with) and flatten out a little to a more subtle and warm lemon tea note. A very strong, very lemon-y tea note. This totally threw me - honestly, I didn't expect TFFM to smell like tea.
    4. Midnotes and drydown - hmm...NOT WHAT I EXPECTED: Light amber. Absolutely no tobacco (although the note says 'tobacco leaf' not 'tobacco'...). A bit of bergamot, but light bergamot (mind you, bergamot is not one of my favorite notes). I also smelled something I couldn't detect in the drydown - perhaps this is the cypriol mentioned in the press release. Musky? No, I wouldn't call it musky, I'd call it herbal musk (if that makes sense...the smell of herbs perspiring!?) Honestly, I like the drydown of Narciso Rodriguez for Men, much better. Now that's a 'sexy' musk. TFFM's musk? Well...I hate to use the 's' word, but to my nose it is very synthetic musk.
    5. It faded pretty fast on my skin. In about an hour, it was only smelling if I sniff close to my wrist. Perhaps this might be due to the 90 degree humid weather.
    6. I didn't buy it. The SA gave me a carded sample to take home, to give it a full wearing. Which I was grateful for, because if I had to base my decision on purchasing TFFM on my first smell, I would not buy it.
    7. Maybe I will like the Extreme? If I don't, I will be extremely disappointed.
    8. The prices at Saks were exactly as Hyde65 listed above. I guess they decided to raise the prices slightly, at the last minute? I'm not sure what to make of that, except I probably wouldn't even be mentioning it, if I lovedlovedloved the scent. Which, at this point, I don't.
    9. Maybe I'll do a 180 degree turnaround, next time I smell it? One can hope.
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    I need to report that I just smelled this scent at Saks in Boston earlier tonight and I was on target with the Estee Lauder thoughts.

    The scent is a let down to me - the Lauder quality of being watered down and not long lasting at all - I can hardly smell it on my hand now.

    Like a said before Lauder can make some awsome long lasting women's scent but they choose to go light on their men's.

    I am now interested in Tom's privite collection of scent Tobacco Vanilla.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scentimus View Post
    I am now interested in Tom's privite collection of scent Tobacco Vanilla.
    I am too. Anyone know where I can get a decant besides the Perfume court? Also, why is Saks getting all the exclusives these days?
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