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  1. #181

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebor View Post
    I think there's a lot of TPC supporters simply for the 'one-stop shop' experience. Well, I actually dislike shopping malls and prefer the time and effort usually spent searching for things in more than one location (it's something I'm used to and it also makes the quest all the more worthwhile). Apart from a few fragrances, most can be obtained in other ways without the need to purchase a full sized bottle.

    It's really funny how one of the main supporting arguments is based on the assumption that TPC could save you money from possible unwanted bottle purchases - surely EVEN MORE money can be saved by not expecting every sample and decant to obtained from the same source (like a bloody shopping mall).

    I love writing to houses, not knowing if they'll send me any free samples, and I much prefer ordering samples and decants from Basenoters who've always offered me a superb service at REASONABLE prices (you know who you are, guys!). Leontion, most of what you want I'm sure you can get in the UK (and if not, in Europe). Of course other places are making a tiny profit from selling samples - it's completely natural.

    Each to their own, I suppose...
    You are absolutely correct and I would love to have the time to hunt things out. Unfortunately for me time is in far shorter supply than money and I therefore welcome the convenience of purchasing samples online from one reputable source. I am prepared to pay for that convenience. Hopefully in time I will get to know people on the boards who I can purchase decants from, for the time being TPC is a very useful resource.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hirch_duckfinder View Post
    It is the hypocrisy that I don't like. They have presented themselves as having been wronged by the "nasty perfume giants" who tried to restrict their decant sales. They then invoke the same arguments used by those giants in order to justify their very high prices. I will address your political points elsewhere, if you like. Suffice it to say, I am no lover of capitalism.
    I do see a distinction here - the perfume giants are trying to control the market and restrict supply, whereas TPC are simply trying to make a living.
    Last edited by Leontion; 11th January 2008 at 05:26 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

  2. #182

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leontion View Post
    You are absolutely correct and I would love to have the time to hunt things out. Unfortunately for me time is in far shorter supply than money and I therefore welcome the convenience of purchasing samples online from one reputable source. I am prepared to pay for that convenience. Hopefully in time I will get to know people on the boards who I can purchase decants from, for the time being TPC is a very useful resource.
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    I do see a distinction here - the perfume giants are trying to control the market and restrict supply, whereas TPC are simply trying to make a living.
    Control the market for products they have developed, packaged, marketed etc. What is wrong with that? What do you mean restrict supply? They can make any quantity they choose. Guerlain are not obliged to make a quota of habit rouge. Unfortunately.
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  3. #183

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    Quote Originally Posted by hirch_duckfinder View Post
    Control the market for products they have developed, packaged, marketed etc. What is wrong with that? What do you mean restrict supply? They can make any quantity they choose. Guerlain are not obliged to make a quota of habit rouge. Unfortunately.
    Regarding controling the market - I don't see anything wrong with it morally, but it may not be in the interests of the consumer if the perfume houses have a stranglehold on the market. I believe that Chanel, Guerlain, YSL, Christian Dior amongst others were fined quite considerable sums of money by the French authorities a year or so a go for establishing a price-fixing cartel.

    Equally restricting supply in the sense of having exclusive arrangements with particular retailers prevents competition in the market from driving down price.

    In my view these sorts of activities are contrary to the interests of consumers - this is not a moral argument, but an economic one.

    In contrast we are perfectly free to choose not to shop with TPC if we don't like the way they are operating - their activities affect their customers, but not consumers at large.
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  4. #184

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_in_Black View Post
    For the sake of correct figures, I changed the above calculation according to PC's real prices.

    Or, if you like:

    Bottle size : 120 ml

    2,5 ml spray vial 120/2,5 = 48 vials

    2,5 ml vials sold for $ 12 each => 12 * 48 = $ 576

    This means they made a total of $ 326 on a $ 250 investment.

    Anyhow, although by joining they have greatly reduced a healthy market competition, they don't force anybody to buy from them...in the end, it's always the buyer's choice.
    Thanks Lady_in_Black . Just to clarify my position I was only taking the figures posted by Brielle87, a couple of posts before mine, on this example. I did not go to check the prices on TPC. This thread has now turned into Economics 101 LOL !!!!, which I know fredricktoo is loving .

    Given their correct prices and your calculations that is a good ROI on that particular product, based on an assumption again that they sold all of the vials on time, and did not have to eat the cost on the vials that were left unsold. Again keep in mind the costs that Robyogi mentioned that I did not list. There are other variables too, but I don't want to go into that.

    Given all this are they going to pocket millions of dollars in a year , like perfume companies do ???
    Absolutely not.............

    Could they make a decent earnings at the end of a fiscal year to put a smile on their faces ???
    Maybe..........but isn't this what we all strive for.........so why are we blaming them...........

    Are they not providing a decent service AND decent products and making people happy while they are trying to make ends meet ???
    Yes they are.................

    Are they not taking a BIG risk by going in this venture ???
    Yes they are...............

    I wish them well and hope their business grows, in fact I wish all of the small business people well.....

    Peace .
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  5. #185

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    Thanks maisonstinky for expressing yourself so well. I'm a new to all this and have found TPC extraordinarily helpful. I don't live in the US so I generally get absolutely hammered by the the shipping from ebay, plus samples are generally impossible to obtain from stores owing to extreme SA stingyness. Are TPC expensive? Absolutely! But try living without them.

  6. #186

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaklin View Post
    Thanks maisonstinky for expressing yourself so well. I'm a new to all this and have found TPC extraordinarily helpful. I don't live in the US so I generally get absolutely hammered by the the shipping from ebay, plus samples are generally impossible to obtain from stores owing to extreme SA stingyness. Are TPC expensive? Absolutely! But try living without them.
    Okay, how much did they pay you?


  7. #187

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    Wow! You mean I could get paid for writing such stuff? Thanks for the tip. LOL!

  8. #188

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    I love The Perfumed Court. It is not expensive at all and is really affordable, even for the average person. I didn't even have to get a second job to buy from them. They are my favorite. I will never buy samples from Luckyscent or eBay again. Ever. Bow to The Perfumed Court!

    (psst! where's my money! $$$)

  9. #189

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    My experience was very positive as well ... one of the scents I had oredered was out, but they shipped the rest of the order with some additional small samples of fragrances from the same company ... very nice. The remaining fragrance was shipped about a week later. I really like their 5ml glass atomizers as well ... seem to be well constructed for the money.

  10. #190

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebor View Post
    Okay, how much did they pay you?

    No , No Trebor, I am the only one getting paid . I need more people to thank me because that is what my commision is based on LOL !!!!. (Newbies, please don't take this seriously !!!).
    Vijay"Maisonstinky"

  11. #191

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    I ordered from the Perfumed Court. I found the prices for samples to not be too bad - though some were high, but they were for perfumes that were especially rare or expensive.

    I liked the "pick 3" from one type - the costs were a bit lower then per sample.
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  12. #192

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    In case anyone has missed this, Nancy (Fishbone) broke out of TPC and continues now her own decanting service as she did before the TPC time.

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    Default Re: Perfumed Court - Very Expensive !

    Quote Originally Posted by Ascella View Post
    In case anyone has missed this, Nancy (Fishbone) broke out of TPC and continues now her own decanting service as she did before the TPC time.
    The perfumed court webpage doesnt reflect that information. It still has her name on it.


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  14. #194

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    Quote Originally Posted by gupts View Post
    The perfumed court webpage doesnt reflect that information. It still has her name on it.


    gupts
    But the news letters sent by TPC are now signed by three names instead of four .

    Edit: Just looked for some info on MUA, sadly she is having a liquidation sale and seems to be getting out of decanting business.
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    Default Re: Perfumed Court - Very Expensive !

    Quote Originally Posted by hirch_duckfinder View Post
    Personally I think decanting as a business in itself is immoral
    The decanting business is immoral??????????????

    The morality police have reached a new low

    Right now, I am almost embarrassed to be a member of Basenotes

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  16. #196

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockford View Post
    The decanting business is immoral??????????????

    The morality police have reached a new low

    Right now, I am almost embarrassed to be a member of Basenotes

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    Why? I just expressed a view, and one that I don't hold particularly strongly. I made an effort to say it was my opinion. As I clarified later it is actually the fact that they use the same arguments as the big perfume giants they criticise to justify their own behaviour which I find annoying.
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    And it strikes me that I expressed it clearly as my opinion, not attempting to impose my moral standards on anyone else. Can you say the same?
    Last edited by hirch_duckfinder; 30th January 2008 at 05:22 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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  17. #197

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    isnt decanting illegal?

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    yes! and soon just pouring will be outlawed and then swirling, shaking, viewing in daylight, using as a solvent to get glue off the other bottle, providing it to children and the elderly and tasting..
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  19. #199

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    I just ordered a decant of Bois du Portugal from The Perfumed Court. It smells nothing like the sample I got from Creed. In fact, I can't smell much of anything at all.

    Has anyone had this problem?

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    I've only ordered from there once. As far I can tell, they sent good stuff.

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    I am a former parfumeur in the fragrance industry who has ordered several decants from Perfumed Court. Their decants are poor at best, in my opinion, and entirely overpriced. We should question the sources of their fragrances. They are notorious for purchasing fake scents on eBay. I have conducted extensive investigations of threads on eBay, MakeupAlley and other sites. They are FAR from reputable.

  22. #202

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    I hate to join in because the ladies are nice and they shipped my orders really fast but...all four of my samples are incredibly weak and before I saw this post, I too was wondering about the quality of the samples as well. Again, I am not trying to "flame" The Perfume Court at all because I do believe they are doing fragrance enthusiasts a favor. I am just being honest here.

  23. #203

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    Honesty helps people here the most. I have no experience with The Perfume Court but I do have Bois du Portugal and it does not quit on me. It usually lasts a day and a half, assuming I don't shower and maintain only low intensity activities. It is one of the strongest and longest lasting fragrances I know, on everyone who I know that owns it at least...

  24. #204

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    Seems to me you ought to inquire at the PC rather than query other members. Some will have good experiences, others not. Not too sure what info you glean from that knowledge.

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    Default Re: Perfumed Court Issue

    I'm unsure what "nice" has to do with the quality of the decants filled by Perfumed Court. Any seller can be "nice" but not fulfill an honest order. In my experience, with more than 12 purchases, Perfumed Court are far from reputable. If I'm censored for saying so, I have told the truth.

  26. #206

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeauSoleil View Post
    I'm unsure what "nice" has to do with the quality of the decants filled by Perfumed Court. Any seller can be "nice" but not fulfill an honest order. In my experience, with more than 12 purchases, Perfumed Court are far from reputable. If I'm censored for saying so, I have told the truth.
    Okay, attacking me is unnecessary when I am agreeing with your side. Customer service is important with me and I wanted it to be made clear that their customer service was excellent. I have "blacklisted" retailers before on the quality of their customer service.

    No offense at all thenmarcher, I saw a topic and I wanted to share my opinion. Obviously, if it requires more action I will take it as I am an adult who can apply reason to my actions, but, my reply was solely to share my opinion in a topic posted by a fellow basenoter as I know it feels good to have ppl who can sympathize with you.

    Please ppl, more ppl will be open to reply more and to share opinions and experiences if you're not overly sensitive about issues.

  27. #207

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnvYuS View Post
    Honesty helps people here the most. I have no experience with The Perfume Court but I do have Bois du Portugal and it does not quit on me. It usually lasts a day and a half, assuming I don't shower and maintain only low intensity activities. It is one of the strongest and longest lasting fragrances I know, on everyone who I know that owns it at least...
    *Sigh* Well, I'll take this up with the ladies at the Perfumed Court. I've worn BdP before. And what they gave me is not BdP. Maybe it is a mistake in the decanting. I don't know.

    Hopefully I'll be able to find some BdP without getting a knock off. *Sigh*

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    Default Re: Perfumed Court Issue

    Interesting that someone's on here with three posts, all about the PC. I've bought many samples form them, and every one that I have subsequently bought a full bottle of has smelled exactly like the sample I bought. Either they have incredible psychic powers and sent me the real stuff, or Saks, Barneys and Neimans are stocking their shelves with those "fake scents from eBay"

    I'm smelling something here, and it ain't Creed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeauSoleil View Post
    I'm unsure what "nice" has to do with the quality of the decants filled by Perfumed Court. Any seller can be "nice" but not fulfill an honest order. In my experience, with more than 12 purchases, Perfumed Court are far from reputable. If I'm censored for saying so, I have told the truth.
    Quote Originally Posted by tmp00 View Post
    Interesting that someone's on here with three posts, all about the PC. I've bought many samples form them, and every one that I have subsequently bought a full bottle of has smelled exactly like the sample I bought. Either they have incredible psychic powers and sent me the real stuff, or Saks, Barneys and Neimans are stocking their shelves with those "fake scents from eBay"

    I'm smelling something here, and it ain't Creed....
    I am with you tmp00.

    Not to cast aspersions, but BeauSoleil's credibility would be greatly enhanced if he/she was interested in advancing the conversation on other topics as well.
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    Shoot, and I wanted to order samples from them.

    Would a Macy's have these to sample? There's one by my college;

    Guerlain 'Mouchoir de Monsieur'
    CB I Hate Perfume ' Memory of Kindness'
    Comme des Garcons Series 1 Leaves - Lily
    Geo Trumper Wild Fern
    Creed Bois de Cedrat

    Are there any other sites that have better, I guess reputation?

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