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    Thumbs up Van Cleef and Arpels Pour Homme

    I just bought a bottle and WOW!!!! What a fragrance!
    Elegant, Masculine and unlike anything else out there. 2 nostrils up!

    What do you guys think?

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    Gotta be honest here..., I add it to my bath water. Sorry fella, each to his own etc, but I just get one flat powdery/soapy smell from it where as a couple of weeks ago I found it to be perfectly acceptable as a 'freshener' in quite a pleasant and retro kinda way. I have been recently spoilt by the likes of Caraceni, Tauer, and my revisits of SL Rousse and L'As Passage d'Enfer, not to mention todays Sotd 'Acqua di Parma Colonia Intensa' which when used as a 'freshener' is what I personally like at present. APCI and a couple of others have a quality that VC&A just doesn't give me anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterV View Post
    I just bought a bottle and WOW!!!! What a fragrance!
    Elegant, Masculine and unlike anything else out there. 2 nostrils up!

    What do you guys think?


    Im with you here.. I bought it blind.. I love it!!!!!

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    My Holy Grail so far. I'm amazed everytime I smell it...though I have many creeds, and even the much vaunted no.88 , Jules etc, nothing comes close to beating VC&A And I hear its now available in Target stores.
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    I smelled it first. I bought it. One of my favorites. I think there's it's got Pheromones in it it.
    I think it by the reaction.

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    I bought it blind and was frankly underwhelmed. However, I plan to give it several more tries. Has it been reformulated? My college roommate used to wear it and I remember it smelling different and frankly better! Of course, he always had a lurking smell of bong water about him that may have enhanced the VCA....

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    A little grating these days, but if you like it otherwise it satisfies in a big way.
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    Good stuff!

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    I must have the reformulated one then.

    I have all the Lutens bar two, all the Creeds bar two, half the Guerlains and many others, and I mean many many others. Pure Aouds, oils and smells from all over the world. Compared to most of my collection VC&A is crap!!

    Well you did ask.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenos View Post
    I must have the reformulated one then.
    I have both the vintage version (that says eau de toilette) and the reformulated version (that says pour homme). Recently i also acquired a bottle that says 'Concentrated naturel spray'. However i don't see the 'normal' juice being any less concentrated than this latest bottle that i procured.

    The vintage juice surely is a little 'darker' but the 'pour homme' reformulated version has a lot of punch in it as well. VC & A ph lasts forever.

    I love it almost as much as i love 'Antaeus' which does share some common notes with it.


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    Its a wonderful scent with powdery oakmoss note. I wore this Monday on a cold rainny here and its sillage worked wonders.

    Classic scent!

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    Well I had to chime in here. I have always loved this stuff. Yes it is very strong. Ha Ha..I remember a few years ago I was at a hotel getting ready to go to this conference. Some of my friends came to get me and no lie...they said. "We can smell your cologne outside the door." Well I instantly knew that I had put way to much of VC and A on. I had to quickly reshower to get it right.....Ahahaahaha

    I have always put VC and A in my Tux-goin out in grand style juice along with Tiffany for Men.

    Yeah I know it has been put in a catagory for the 'Mature' men but it just works for special occassions...in the cooler weather.

    Fragrance On,

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    I'm not really feeling this one. Perhaps I got an off bottle, but my experience was pretty bad. Imagine an old man popping out of a jack in the box, holding a bouquet of very strong, yet unidentifiable flowers. That was VCA for me.

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    I, like a few others here, bought it blind. I owned Tsar before (mine was original in opaque bottle, not the 'eau') and sorta had an idea of what to expect. I got even more, though.

    I totally dig it. Classic, rich, and definitely floral enough. On me, the rose and carnation come through loud and clear but the moss and woods keep them in check. It does stay balanced and the longevity and sillage are very good. I would not call this a "toss it on" scent - it doesn't strike me as having any 'casual' tendencies.

    I consider it well-suited for fall or early spring when the temps don't top 70F but it's good in the winter, too. This is a scent with stature. I like it a lot.



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    Love it.
    Are you not entertained??? Is this not why you are here??

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    I wore it yesterday & it has a lot of tenacity, thus one has to be mindful to apply sparingly. It is definitely one of the greats!

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    Used to be my favorite (I own the vintage bottle), but now I feel too much incense on it. And I find it very different from Antaeus (perhaps it's closer to Trussardi Uomo, but I'm not acquainted with this one).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gupts View Post
    I have both the vintage version (that says eau de toilette) and the reformulated version (that says pour homme).
    gupts
    Gupts, can you please tell me which of these two is the vintage? I'm trying to buy it online and would really appreciate the help:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VAN-CLEEF-AR...ht_1863wt_1396

    OR

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Van-Cleef-Va...ht_1269wt_1396

    Thanks so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnivra View Post
    Gupts, can you please tell me which of these two is the vintage? I'm trying to buy it online and would really appreciate the help:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VAN-CLEEF-AR...ht_1863wt_1396

    OR

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Van-Cleef-Va...ht_1269wt_1396

    Thanks so much.
    I had the second one and I would describe it as "reformulated garbage." A strong soapy lavender/laundry musk kind of thing, though if you like that, go for it. I strongly advise instead going for the original Leonard Pour Homme, because then you don't have to worry about reformulation. My guess is that both of the pictures you linked to are for frags that bear little resemblance to the original formulation. Vintage LPH is supposed to be very similar to the original VC&APH and can be found on ebay at non-insane prices. So this is the one I'd go for:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEONARD-EDT-...item2eb6aeef24

    But if you must have VC&A PH, this one might be okay:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Van-Cleef-Ho...item518e186f77
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    To be completely honest, I have tried both vintage (REALLY vintage) and recent (brown leafy pattern box), and people are correct in saying the most recent one is very close to the original. The original one I tried had evaporated a bit and lost some of its top notes, but the burning incense drydown smell is the same. The new one's "soapy" top notes are very strong, but the powdery incense drydown is divine and forever lasting, and the same as the original. Positively ancient and evil smelling.

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    Lovingthealien,

    Thanks for your reply. I really appreciate it!

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    Bigsly,

    I'm reading the reviews of LPH. If I do buy it, it will be a blind buy. Anyway, thanks so much for pointing that out!

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    It's a wonderful, classic scent.

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    Hmm. Powdery, flowery, oakmossy, soapy, lavender-y, musky, incensey, ancient evil, you say? I must try this! I'll watch out for it.

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    My current one looks like the second ebay picture. I wouldn't call it "reformulated garbage." In fact, I like it a lot. Remember everyone's nose is different. I think (though I don't know for sure) the second picture is the more recent, but it's been a while since I looked into VCA reformulation issues and would defer to somebody else with more information.
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    Just my opinion. After sampling a whole lot of frags from that era, the brown leaf box one struck me as something that could not have been created back then, because it seemed liked a strong "laundry musk" element was present (which I detest).

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    I always liked this smooth, distinctive powerhouse
    Currently wearing: Lancetti Uomo by Lancetti

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    The version in the box with the leafy motif is the closest to the original.
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    I have not tried a recent formulation as I have found some vintage bottles and I must say this is one of my favourite fragrances. So very distinctive with class and I find I'm addicted to it. I find it difficult not to spray some on me night after night after a shower so I can sit and keep smelling it!!!!
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    Default Re: Van Cleef and Arpels Pour Homme

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Just my opinion. After sampling a whole lot of frags from that era, the brown leaf box one struck me as something that could not have been created back then, because it seemed liked a strong "laundry musk" element was present (which I detest).
    Well, it was the sole (credited) contribution to the fragrance world by Louis Monnet, and a positively "different" experience in perfume for its time. Their website (which apparently only markets Pour Homme in EU zone) states that VCA Pour Homme pioneered strong florals in men's fragrances. Here is a list of the most important men's fragrances according to Michael Edwards:

    1930: Pour Un Homme (Caron / Ernest Daltroff)
    1935: Canoe (Dana / Jean Carles)
    1937: Old Spice (Shulton / Albert Hauck)
    1949: Moustache (Rochas / Edmond & Theresa Roudnitska)
    1952: Pino Silvestre (Silvestre / Lino Vidal)
    1955: Chanel Pour Monsieur (Chanel / Henri Robert)
    1957: Vetiver de Carven (Carven / Edouard Hache)
    1959: Tabac Original (Maurer & Wirtz / Arturo Jordi-Pey)
    1961: Vetiver de Guerlain (Guerlain / Jean Paul Guerlain)
    1964: Brut (Fabergé / Karl Mann)
    1965: Aramis (Estée Lauder Aramis division / Bernard Chant)
    1965: Habit Rouge (Guerlain / Jean Paul Guerlain)
    1966: Eau Sauvage (Dior / Edmond Roudnitska)
    1973: Jovan Musk for Men (Jovan / Murray Moscona)
    1973: Paco Rabanne Pour Homme (Paco Rabanne / Jean Martel)
    1974: Givenchy Gentleman (Givenchy / Paul Leger)
    1976: Grey Flannel (Geoffrey Beene / Andre Fromentin)
    1976: Halston Z-14 (Halston / Vincent Marcello, Max Gavarry)
    1978: Azzaro Pour Homme (Azzaro / Anthony Gerard, Martin Heiddenreich, Richard Wirtz)
    1978: Devin (Aramis / Bernard Chant)
    1978: Lagerfeld (Lagerfeld / Ron Winnegrade)
    1978: Polo (Ralph Lauren / Carlos Benaim)
    1978: Van Cleef & Arpels (VCA / Louis Monnet)
    1981: Eau d'Hadrien (Annick Goutal / Annick Goutal, Francis Camail)
    1981: Kouros (YSL / Pierre Bourdon)
    1982: Drakkar Noir (Guy Laroche / Pierre Wargnye)
    1984: Armani Pour Homme (Armani / Roger Pellegrino)
    1986: Obsession for Men (Klein / Bob Slattery)
    1988: Cool Water (Davidoff / Pierre Bourdon)
    1988: Fahrenheit (Dior / Jean Louis Sieuzac, Maurice Roger)
    1989: Joop! Homme (Joop! / Michel Almairac)
    1991: Kenzo Pour Homme (Kenzo / Christian Mathieu)
    1993: Escape for Men (Calvin Klein / Steve Demarcato)
    1995: Tommy (Aramis / Annie Buzantian, Alberto Morillas)

    You see how many strong florals exist before VCA Pour Homme? It was truly an outlier in its class. If I could compare it to anything else, I'd say it's more akin to many famous feminine rose cyphres such as Cabochard and Paco Rabanne's La Nuit.

    The soapiness was part of the fragrance in its original formulation, and I believe that Interparfums stated that it returned the perfumes to their original formulae AND bottles after the rather miserable versions of the past few years (the solid black box for Pour Homme). Here is some more information:

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/215...s-former-glory

    VCA Pour Homme is truly a beautiful fragrance, and one of my favorites.

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