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    Default Scents that don't make sense

    correct me if I'm wrong on any of these:

    sea spray — a lot of questions. Which sea? whereabouts on that sea?

    precious woods - this was discussed on the wood thread started today

    nostalgic violet - ?

    Flint - there were huge slabs of flint sidewalk when i was a kid on my hands and knees. I can't recall an odor.

    Grey Amber — ???? Pink amber? what next?
    hey slow down, the light is grey

    and Water Flower?

    these are just some that jump out at me as being a sign of laziness in marketing.
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    Default Re: Scents that don't make sense

    My annoying note rant:

    Grilled cigarette note - compliments of Comme des Garcons PARFUMS Series 6 Synthetic: Tar

    WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    My annoying note rant:

    Grilled cigarette note - compliments of Comme des Garcons PARFUMS Series 6 Synthetic: Tar

    WTF?
    Oh man, i love grilled cigarettes with some hot bbq sauce!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredricktoo View Post
    correct me if I'm wrong on any of these:

    sea spray — a lot of questions. Which sea? whereabouts on that sea?

    precious woods - this was discussed on the wood thread started today

    nostalgic violet - ?

    Flint - there were huge slabs of flint sidewalk when i was a kid on my hands and knees. I can't recall an odor.

    Grey Amber — ???? Pink amber? what next?
    hey slow down, the light is grey

    and Water Flower?

    these are just some that jump out at me as being a sign of laziness in marketing.
    I agree with your general point.
    Grey amber is an unnecessary translation of amber gris or ambergris as we usually know it or naturally-aged-cuttle-fish-whale-vomit diluted-infusion.
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    Demeter Dirt.

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    Default Re: Scents that don't make sense

    frozen anything...vanillaO2, ebony are a few that come to mind

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    Default Re: Scents that don't make sense

    Transparent musk...as in Chrome, Bvlgari Pour Homme, & 212 Men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hirch_duckfinder View Post
    I agree with your general point.
    Grey amber is an unnecessary translation of amber gris or ambergris as we usually know it or naturally-aged-cuttle-fish-whale-vomit diluted-infusion.
    I see it now on wikipedia as an alternative to ambergris. Thanks Hirsch. I would have never made the association.

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    Most of those scents are synthetics (with the possible exceptions of grey amber, which usually means ambergris, like someone already mentioned).

    I think it's the best they can do to come up with names for new aroma chemicals. Marketing the scent under it's scientific name wouldn't be very appealing to the consumer.

    When a new aroma chemical is discovered/created, someone has to decide what it (kinda) smells like. The chemical used to create that gun flint note in Terre D'Hermes, for example, isn't from real flint (of course), but it has a metallic smell, so they decided to call it gun flint for marketing purposes (instead of it's scientific name, which is probably something like "Isonomer 24").

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    Default Re: Scents that don't make sense

    Vera Wang Princess has some strange sounding notes:

    Water Lily, Lady Apple, Mandarin Meringue, Golden Apricot Skin, Ripe Pink Guava, Tahitian Flower, Wild Tuberose, Dark Chocolate, Pink Frosting Accord, Precious Amber, Forbidden Woods, Royal Musk Captive, Chiffon Vanilla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
    Most of those scents are synthetics (with the possible exceptions of grey amber, which usually means ambergris, like someone already mentioned).

    I think it's the best they can do to come up with names for new aroma chemicals. Marketing the scent under it's scientific name wouldn't be very appealing to the consumer.

    When a new aroma chemical is discovered/created, someone has to decide what it (kinda) smells like. The chemical used to create that gun flint note in Terre D'Hermes, for example, isn't from real flint (of course), but it has a metallic smell, so they decided to call it gun flint for marketing purposes (instead of it's scientific name, which is probably something like "Isonomer 24").
    Gun flint is flint. We're not saying that the aroma is the result of using gun flint to spark gun powder. The only association with flint and fragrance that I could find is that of flinty soil to the wines produced on it.
    I certainly don't have a problem with chemical formulations in my fragrances but the use of names for fragrances like flint and water flower I believe is used to lure the naive or the deliberately naive. Grey Amber seems to be a bastardization of ambergris and thats a lot easier to accept than listing flint as a fragrance. Unless flint is an old perfumers name for something else.

    this batch that beachroses posts is typical of what is being used to describe fragrances.

    "Lady Apple, Tahitian Flower, Pink Frosting Accord, Forbidden Woods, Royal Musk Captive"

    It's hard for me to get an idea of what I'm going to smell like if I applied these.

    I hope to find out that all the names on this thread are actually meaningful rather than the hucksters typical use of language to squeeze the public and sell low quality or ingredients everybody is familiar with and probably disgusted with by now.

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    I'm reminded of this:

    http://achewood.com/index.php?date=10302007

    Quote Originally Posted by jdnba View Post
    frozen anything...vanillaO2, ebony are a few that come to mind
    Actually, vanilla02 is one of the few of these terms that might have any relevancy to the scent: it could be referring to the vanilla essence produced by CO2 extraction.
    Here is a good guide for those curious about the extraction of various plant essences used in perfumery ( admittedly from an aromatherapist's perspective ).

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    This reminds me of Montale of their overkill of aoud varieties: Black, white, Steam (WTF? Steam??!!), etc etc.

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    While the cologne makes a lot of sense to me,
    the pyramid of Cuiron (directory)
    has me perplexed ! :brolly:
    Last edited by narcus; 31st October 2007 at 06:35 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredricktoo View Post
    this batch that beachroses posts is typical of what is being used to describe fragrances.

    "Lady Apple, Tahitian Flower, Pink Frosting Accord, Forbidden Woods, Royal Musk Captive"

    It's hard for me to get an idea of what I'm going to smell like if I applied these.

    I hope to find out that all the names on this thread are actually meaningful rather than the hucksters typical use of language to squeeze the public and sell low quality or ingredients everybody is familiar with and probably disgusted with by now.
    It's impossible to guess by looking at the notes, that fragrance is a freshly showered smell with a faint cocoa note on me, nothing like the description. I am guessing these are names for new synthetic notes they've come up with, to differentiate from the others already around?

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    Default Re: Scents that don't make sense

    Pink Frosting Accord

    has to be one of the best

    It's like Betty Crocker.

    It tastes like sugar

    No specifics except the frosting is pink

    Fobidden Woods means it's licensed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    While the cologne makes a lot of sense to me,
    the pyramid of Cuiron (directory)
    has me perplexed ! :brolly:
    agreed!
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    Default Re: Scents that don't make sense

    a note: fruity whiskey?

    and an accord: lush waterfall accord

    ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredricktoo View Post
    a note: fruity whiskey?

    and an accord: lush waterfall accord

    ?
    I much prefer non-lush waterfall notes over lush ones. Way better!
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    I want to bed some "Royal musk captive," myself.
    That girl, that bottle, that mattress and me.

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    People love these marketing gimmicks.

    Like Aramis releasing New West as a "Skinscent"

    I thought the Pure Parfum; EDP; EDT: EDC classification was working quite well.

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    "Let Me Play The Lion"

    Ok, whatever...
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    Odeur 53 is rife with weird "accords"...

    I had to laugh at their sensational descriptions of the "scents" it contains
    "Washing drying on a clothesline", "running your tongue over a steel pipe" and so on.

    Puh-leeze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    My annoying note rant:

    Grilled cigarette note - compliments of Comme des Garcons PARFUMS Series 6 Synthetic: Tar

    WTF?

    LOL!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri View Post
    Odeur 53 is rife with weird "accords"...

    I had to laugh at their sensational descriptions of the "scents" it contains
    "Washing drying on a clothesline", "running your tongue over a steel pipe" and so on.

    Puh-leeze.

    Oh brother! Give me a break! You know I have always wanted to roll my tongue over a steel pipe. I guess as long as it is not in the winter.
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    from Richard James Cologne

    Clean Starched Shirt Acccord, I'm assuming a white shirt. Does anyone know what the components of this accord are?

    hell, here's the whole pyramid listed on Basenotes

    several of these are unique to Richard James Cologne. This is the Saville Row clothier? Think they've lost perspective or am I being unusually cynical on this?
    Last edited by fredricktoo; 22nd November 2007 at 08:37 PM.

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    ...Kenneth Coles New York


    Well-groomed accord, Freshly showered accord...
    I'm so fo sho' it's no facade/ Stay out of trouble momma said as momma sighed/ For her fear her youngest son be a victim of homicide/ But I gotta get you out of here momma.. Or I'm gonna die..Inside...So either eay you lose me momma/ So let loose of me!

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    I want to know what are the "violent animal notes" in Le Labo Patchouli 24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockford View Post
    I want to know what are the "violent animal notes" in Le Labo Patchouli 24
    That must explain the "foaming at the mouth" effect users of Patchouli 24 have experienced...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thenmarcher View Post
    This reminds me of Montale of their overkill of aoud varieties: Black, white, Steam (WTF? Steam??!!), etc etc.
    The name "steam" sounds pretty stupid, but that was one of the original ways that 'oud was extracted: by steam.

    Some of these other names are really dumb, like "frozen", "living", "iced", etc. I just don't get it.
    You are not your perfume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbobkc View Post
    LOL!




    Oh brother! Give me a break! You know I have always wanted to roll my tongue over a steel pipe. I guess as long as it is not in the winter.

    No homo right?
    I'm so fo sho' it's no facade/ Stay out of trouble momma said as momma sighed/ For her fear her youngest son be a victim of homicide/ But I gotta get you out of here momma.. Or I'm gonna die..Inside...So either eay you lose me momma/ So let loose of me!

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    How do you describe the smell of chemicals anyway? It is all made up, you might as well invoke colourful imaginary, because if you just listed off a hundred chemical and natural ingredients it wouldn't seem nearly as interesting. Its an art more than a science, and the whole is more than the sum of the parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louslice View Post
    How do you describe the smell of chemicals anyway? It is all made up, you might as well invoke colourful imaginary, because if you just listed off a hundred chemical and natural ingredients it wouldn't seem nearly as interesting. Its an art more than a science, and the whole is more than the sum of the parts.
    True, but there are real ingredients that go into perfumes: sandalwood, vetiver, jasmine, agarwood, etc. The complaint here (at least mine) is the names that they give their essences, whether they are real or not.

    Iced mango? Ninja please.
    You are not your perfume.

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    Sperm note... http://www.basenotes.net/ID26126203.html

    I think I'll pass...

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