Why? Fragonard is high class stuff!
Ok title says it all. I have tried Creeds Original Vetiver (not bad but a little uninspiring) and Floris Vetiver (sample vial) and Gurlains (not sure I like the top notes) and thats about it so I am a little green when it comes to vetiver (pardon the pun!).
What do you suggest and why?
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Why? Fragonard is high class stuff!
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All I can tell now is please don't buy Lanvin Vetyver. It does not last.
Current Top 5
1. Creed Aventus
2. A*Men Pure Malt
3. L'instant Extreme
4. Nasomatto Duro
5. CDG - Kyoto
My favorites are Annick Goutal and Etro Vetiver. No citrus top note in either and lots of raw vetiver. Carven's Vetiver is similiar to the Etro and much less expensive.
Creed's Vetiver 1948 and Herrara's Sensual Vetiver are good ones imo.
If you want really raw, masculine, power-vetiver I would suggest Villoresi. I'm craving a full bottle.
A favorite of mine is Vetiver Hombre by Adolfio Dominguez, which is more of a spring & summer scent - very fresh-barbershoppy, complex rather than putting the vetiver at the forefront. I'm addicted to it.
I also find L'Occitane's Vetyver amazingly good. Warm, pleasant, distinct vetiver with a very well executed subtle oriental base that really brings out the best in the root juice. Excellent value.
Etro's Vetiver is also very nice. Pretty strong, accenting the woody aspects, a slightly synthetic thing going on which works very well here, though.
Another summery one, which is really great is Comme des Garcons Vettiveru. Both raw and creamy, Indie_Guy's review nails it.
These five are different enough from each other to warrant having all in one's wardrobe
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Frederic Malle - VE - Pleasant, office and all around scent
Lorenzo Villoresi Vetiver - Strong bitter opening, masculine, long lasting vetiver scent (Agree with the-good-life).
MPG RdV - Old formulation. This one is pretty raw, earthy, can take some time to get used to. Take it or leave it scent.
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Lorenzo Villoresi Vetiver is the best one out there in my opinion, it is a somewhat raw vetiver compared to the typical designer ones, but is still stylish enough. It's the longest lasting of the niche vetivers I've tried so far (though I haven't tried the MPG one yet). Unfortunately, it is expensive.
Etro Vetiver is even rawer, but does not last as long.
Roccobarocco Vetiver is the designer vetiver closest to the above two that I've come across.
If you want a cheaper, fresher more refined one that projects to high heaven and lasts the longest, you can't go past Azzaro's Pure Vetiver, though it is much unloved around here for some reason - but I think it's great, particularly for warm weather wear.
Lanvin Vetyvr smells pretty good, but I have no idea where the vetiver in it is supposed to be, as I have difficulty detecting it.
A real cheap vetiver that smells pretty good is the Italian Malzia Uomo, which is sold in lots of places down here, and everywhere in Italy.
Buy Lorenzo Villoresi Vetiver!
Vetiver fragrances vary greatly in style. I tend to divide them up into heavy/earthy and light/citrus styles of vetiver. Earthy vetivers are raw, smelling of earth, dirt and roots, while light vetivers have a little more citrus and usually are vetiver fragrance w/o the earthy rooty elements.
My favorite earthy vetiver (and favorite overall) is Lorenzo Villoresi Vetiver - a totally unique but very earthy vetiver. Another really good but lighter earthy vetiver is Editions Parfum Frederic Malle Vetiver Extraordinaire. But the best overall is LV Vetiver, in my opinion.
A very light more refreshing vetiver scent is Comme de Garcon Vettiveru - a splash on that is very light, fresh pure vetiver. Also on the light but more green side of vetiver fragrance are: (1) Sel D Vetiver by the Different Company and (2) Mugler Cologne.
You can not go wrong with any of these.
Although it strikes me as far more than a vetiver fragrance, Parfumerie Generale's Querelle is worth investigating. Penetrating, spicy bite mixed with an earthy, rootsy, sexual undercurrent.
I'll second Buzzlepuff.. Vettiveru (thanks for the sample, Mike!) is really fantastic. It wears closely but has surprisingly good longevity. You can also get it pretty cheaply for the smaller (125ml) spray bottle through luckyscent. I'm pretty sure I'll get a bottle within the month.
I'm a colognosaurus. Rawr!
I would go with Vetiver Extraordinaire. The name says it all!
If you can get your hands on Pecksniffs Vetivert then go for that. It's brilliant stuff!
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Try the sampler 6 pack, from the Perfumed Court,before you buy a full bottle of something you may not like! My favorite Vetiver,happens to be Carlo Corinto.
There are so many good vetivers...
Vetiver Extraordinaire-- expensive but smells like it. Has a weird ozonic note that smells like a rubber snorkel and diving mask baking out in the hot sun-- oddly addictive!
Azzaro Pure Vetiver- Like Renato says, this one doesn't get much love around here-- I think it's pretty good. It's not going to bowl one away with vetiver, but rather it displays vetiver more as a texture than as a subject. Many fragrances do this-- the vetiver doesn't come across naked, but rather lends a matte, suedelike textile sensation to the way the fragrance rubs your nose. Azzaro Pure Vetiver goes for this texture. Another fragrance that use vetiver notes for this effect is Kenzo's KenzoAir.
Comme des Garçons Vettiveru-- I really like this one. It has more of a natural vetiver character than some of the others. It's a good balance between the raw and the refined. It goes on fresh with a dose of citrus and a feeling like fresh, polished leather. It quickly turns to a nice salty dry skin scent that's like dried bamboo and bubblegum. You might want to chew on your arm when you wear it.
Guerlain Vetiver-- A classic. So much has been said. Go look at the reviews.
Creed Vetiver (1948)-- I just received this and I'm so torn up about it. On one hand it's incredibly sublime. One of the best smelling fragrances out there. Blended to the point where it achieves that synthesis where the sum of the parts is so much exponentially more than the parts themselves ( I just got a bit "Marks_Carlton" there! ). Unfortunately, I think the longevity is subpar. I'm going to give it time, because there are many fragrances (especially Creeds) where I have been wrong in assuming poor longevity. It probably does last on the skin, but tragically it's likely one of those scents that becomes invisible to the wearer. Aside from longevity issues, this is definitely one of the the greats in the Vetiver Hall of Fame.
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I'd like to show some love for Santa Maria Novella Vetiver. So round, full, and grassy... seems to bloom as it dries down. Awesome!!
Route du Vétiver for dirty, earthy vetiver; Vétiver Extraordinaire for all around outstanding vetiver (but only if price is not an issue); Guerlain's old formulation vetiver for all around vetiver goodness (but take care here if tobacco's not your "thang").
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Route du Vetiver by MPG - because it's dirt and brittle wood notes mixed with the vetiver are unique, dark and unlike anything you've smelled.
Vetiver Extraordinaire by Frederic Malle - Indieguy described it perfectly above. Unbelievable stuff. If I remember correctly, Frederic Malle himself wears this.
Vettiveru by Comme des Garcons - vetiver for when you just want something light, airy and uncomplicated - but well made nonetheless
Vetiver Tonka by Hermes - vetiver root and incredibly cuddly and sweet doses of burnt sugar, making it a vetiver gourmand which is kinda weird but it works
If I had to pick one only...I'd pick the Vetiver Extraordinaire.
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If you don't like Guerlain Vetiver's top notes (is it the tobacco?), give Guerlain Veteiver Extreme a wiff! All the vetiver and very little citrus and tobacco.
I will 3rd Azzaro's Pure Vetiver. While it may not be the best example of a vetiver, it's still good in it's own right.
Annick Goutal and Etro are among the most dry and dirty. I have some pure vetiver oil and these are pretty close to it.
The new 2007 (or is that old) formulation of Carvin's Vetiver may be a little hard to find right now, but is awsome stuff! Not much talk abot it here yet, but I thnk it will become a favorite!
I ran across Azzaro's Pure Vetiver at a TJ Maxx in DC yesterday for $15 but didn't buy it because of the less-than-stellar reviews. Perhaps I should reconsider?
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Thanks guys some great suggestions, it's excellent to hear from so many of the basenoters whose opinions I really respect (I wont embarrass by naming names!).
Ok so at this point it is coming down to a death match between:
Lorenzo Villoresi Vetiver Vs Editions Parfum Frederic Malle Vetiver Extraordinaire
Not picked the winner yet but Lorenzo Villoresi Vetiver has taken the first few rounds!
Damn you Basenotes... what started off as a whim for 1 decent Vetiver I can now foresee as a new fragrance odyssey..... oh well they say its more about the journey than the destination. Strap me in, point me in the right direction and watch me go!
I can see me purchasing a few more Vetivers than I had planned!!!
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A huge vote here for Lorenzo Villoresi's Vetiver! If it's vetiver you want, this is the one to go for. I love it even more than MPG's, which is also terrific, although it sounds like they've changed that one. I never saw the appeal of vetiver until I smelled the LV. I also agree with Michael that Querelle is worth a look for vetiver lovers, although it's not a vetiver dominated scent.
Excellent advice. Vetiver fragrances can diverge widely.
At one stage I had about 35 vetiver fragrances in my wardrobe. I have almost sold them all off. I seem to have developed an aversion to most vetiver fragrances for no apparent reason. Of the two or three that I am keeping, able to keep, Carlo Corinto Vetyver is my favorite. It's one that you should at least try if you can. There's nothing like.
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have you read this thread
I've sampled many listed on this thread and settled on LV Vetiver a couple years ago as my fav. I've never worn it in public though. Vetiver dominated scents seem too radical to wear in public for me. But, I do love the citrusy, grassy, smokey, woody concoction as a private indulgance. Lately though, it annoys me for some reason. I hope it's not permanent. My aversion is not quite at the level of scentemental's though. I just recently received a bottle of Fahrenheit 32 from a generous Basenoter and am extremely happy with its vetiver/vanilla dry down. This one I'll have no problem wearing in public. And now that I've discovered a vetiver frag that I'm comfortable with in public, I'm going to be on the lookout for vetiver/sandalwood/tobacco combos.
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One vetiver that you can wear in public is the reformulated and reintroduced 1957 Carven Vetiver (in the modern square grrenish bottle) which is a wonder. Not terribly strong, and somewhat smoky, it is urbane, sophisticated fragrance that despite its somewhat tame (comparatively speaking) projection, is still speaks (not shouts) vertiver. Good for dress or casual, it has heaps of character and does not smell like any other vetiver fragrance.
I too love LV and VE but for now, the Carven is absolutely fine, and I think with a different aspect on par with tehm , at half the price of LV and a third of VE. Currently I see no need to furtively seek out THE BEST vetiver, I have an excellent one.
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I got here too late, but I don't think you should make any decisions without smelling Lalique's new Encre Noire. That is the "dirty" style vetiver, a little smokey, but dries down very naturally grassy. I love it. And they're selling it in stores so you won't have to pay shipping and have to wait (always the worst part, we all know) for it to arrive
And thanks Hurch_Duckfinder for reviving that old post! That was great!
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Malle VE. It is fairly linear but beautiful, balanced, warm and not cloying. It is the most wearable and likable vetiver... or I could push you to the earthy, rooty, darkness that is MPG RdV... my evening favorite which, believe it or not, gets me the most 'that is a sexy scent' comments.
Is Carlo Corinto Vetyver available? If so, where?
One more vote for Adolfio Dominguez Vetiver Hombre.. recently bought it and couldn't be happier
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Ok... phew... I think the list below covers all suggestions made (please do correct me if I have missed one) I think I will buy the winner of the death match first... and then start making my way through this little lot!
Lorenzo Villoresi's Vetiver!
Adolfio Dominguez Vetiver Hombre
Lalique's new Encre Noire
Carlo Corinto Vetyver
Guerlain Veteiver Extreme
Route du Vetiver by MPG
Vetiver Extraordinaire by Frederic Malle
Vettiveru by Comme des Garcons
Vetiver Tonka by Hermes
Santa Maria Novella Vetiver
Azzaro Pure Vetiver
Parfumerie Generale's Querelle
Sel D Vetiver by the Different Company
Vetyver by Fragonard
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Givenchy recently reintroduced Vetiver is also worth sampling. It's a light vetiver with opening notes of coriander and a sandalwood basenote. Well made and long lasting. And according to Osmoz France, Lubin is launching Le Vétiver, which is described as a wintery vetiver.
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A word of advice - when you test them don't go by the initial smell alone. Spray some on your wrists or back of your hands and see if they're still there with some strength 3 hours later. I find that many of both niche and designer vetiver scents are often fairly short lasting on me relative to average normal scents. The old Carvens vetiver had fairly poor longevity, as well as the old Guerlain's Vetiver EDT whereas, curiously enough, the old Guerlain's EDC had very good lasting power.
Don't waste money on scents that have little longevity.
It would be funny if by the end of this exercise you decided that vetiver wasn't really your thing after all.
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Guerlain Vetiver Eau Glacée (Vetiver Frozen) is another vetiver I found to be very wearable but it's a little difficult to find. Probably worth the search if you're into vetivers. Sample available at fragrancex.com
<edit> I take that back. It seems it's not so difficult to find. Googling "vetiver frozen" pulls up several online shops that claim to have it in stock.
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I like vetiver very much
Three unique, of great quality, but pricy vetivers:
F.Malle Vetiver Extraodinaire
Creed Original Vetiver (soapy)
Hermes Vetiver Tonka
"PLAIN LIVING, HIGH THINKING" O.W., De Profundis
Real beauty: 1) F. Malle 1-19 2) Chanel Bel Respiro 3) TF Noir de Noir 4) Hermes Eau de Pamplemousse Rose
Noses: 1) Jacques Cavallier 2) Maurice Roucel 3) Dominique Ropion
Today I'm wearing my newly arrived Sel de Vetiver and HOLY WHOAH is it all that and a bag of chips. Vibert's reference point of single malt scotch in his review of this frag is strangely apt. A little smoky, a little earthy, a WHOLE LOTTA VETIVER, and a touch of something that almost smells like rose overtones, though none seem to be listed in the notes. Maybe it's one of the other florals listed that I'm picking up on, but it's just quiet enough to be divine.
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