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    Default Rubber Soul -or- how I learned to love rubber in scents

    What is it about rubber notes in certain fragrances that I like?

    I asked myself this question as I walked out the door today, spritzed with some Patchouli 24 by Le Labo - a scent that has been called by many Basenoters as Bulgari Black Extreme. It is, you might call a study on rubber, the note is so prominent.

    Wikipedia taught me something new about rubber that I didn't know also: 'Natural rubber is an elastic hydrocarbon polymer that naturally occurs as a milky colloidal suspension, or latex, in the sap of some plants. It can also be synthesized'. As in, a rubber tree. Interesting, huh?

    I got to thinking about other fragrances that I love that feature rubber in a few different varieties:

    Bulgari Black (vanilla and then rubber and then...more vanilla - and this gives me a headache )
    Cumming by Alan Cumming (perhaps a 'thicker' rubber note in this one...think 'fetish outfit' rather than 'rubber doctors gloves')
    Odeur 71 by Comme des Garcons (yes, its there along with those other 70 different notes)
    Film Noir by Ava Luxe (I've always had a soft spot for this scent - I classify it as a rubber chypre, if such a thing existed)
    Play by Comme des Garcons (orange & a rubberized plastic industrial note)
    Patchouli 24 by Le Labo (rubber in volumes more than Bulgari Black and....well a helluva lot of vanilla too - and watch the trigger on this one...a little goes a LONG way)

    There are also some I've encountered that I don't like at all:

    Oud Wood by Tom Ford (rubber for days, in too high a volume, in all of its infinte varities...oh yeah and raspberries)
    M7 (rubber on fire, in the woods)

    I don't necessarily encounter many day-to-day instances where I smell rubber in the world around me. At the doctor's office (all of the nurses wear gloves). Perhaps when I clean (dishwashing gloves?). But that's it. I don't raft on inner tubes. Dont' work on automotive tires. I'm not 'into' the rubber fetish - although one year I did attend IML in Chicago and lemme tell you...many people are REALLY into rubber.

    What is the appeal to me? Any ideas would be welcomed and appreciated.

    Any fragrances with rubber notes in it, that I didn't list?
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    Sounds like a rubber fetish to me..hahaha!

    You don't have long hair by any chance do you??? See below

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...-23109,00.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Barry View Post
    Sounds like a rubber fetish to me..hahaha!

    You don't have long hair by any chance do you??? See below

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...-23109,00.html

    Barry
    Ick - that's pretty gross. No, short, short hair here.

    Rubber fetish, huh? Maybe I'm in denial...
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    [austrian accent]Perhaps ve should sink about your childhood...[/austrian accent]

    swinging in a tire swing? making "switchblades" from popsicle sticks and rubber bands? shooting spitballs? slingshots? going "tubing" in the river?

    possible?

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    I love P24.

    Today I'm wearing T42, which I also love, and I feel that its combination of smoke and honey-sweetness brings to mind the rubber note in P24. So maybe that's some of the appeal of rubber notes, the way they unite the bitter and the sweet. Makes sense they relate in the natural world to plant resins, which are the source of other important effects in perfumery.

    I also think there's an appealingly "tactile" dimension to rubber scents. They bring to mind (for me at least) the smooth and malleable toe caps on some classic sneakers (or trainers, as they say in the UK). That's a whole other thread I'd like to launch someday, how smells can have intrinsically tactile qualities like watery, powdery, sticky, smooth, grainy, cool, warm,...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Barry View Post
    You don't have long hair by any chance do you??? See below

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...-23109,00.html

    Barry
    Uh oh! I knew I shouldn't have bought that pack of cheap hairties from the asian market down the street!

    (just kidding... but I do have long hair)

    I dunno, though. I don't at all smell that burning rubber note in M7, and I only find BB to be a tad bit rubbery- not the rubber monster that it's been made out to be. I'd love to try some of the others on your list though and see if I can smell the rubber... because I actually kind of like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zatarain View Post
    [austrian accent]Perhaps ve should sink about your childhood...[/austrian accent]

    swinging in a tire swing? making "switchblades" from popsicle sticks and rubber bands? shooting spitballs? slingshots? going "tubing" in the river?

    possible?
    LOL

    You sound like Dieter in that Saturday Night Live skit that Michael Meyers did...'Vud you like to touch my monkey!?' (giggle)

    Oh and to answer your questions: No. No. No. No. And no.
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    Default Re: Rubber Soul -or- how I learned to love rubber in scents

    Have any of you Basenoters encountered a 'rubber' note when you smelled a prominent tuberose note in a fragrance?

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    Check out Diesel Zero Plus and breathe in the smell of (red?) rubber balloons. It's also the only rubber scent I've come across that I like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    Have any of you Basenoters encountered a 'rubber' note when you smelled a prominent tuberose note in a fragrance?


    Yes! in Fracas and in the flower itself -- I'm a former gardner hobbyist and fell in love with many floral notes via the garden --, and the rubber note only adds to the sublime beauty of that fragrance for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manicboy View Post
    Check out Diesel Zero Plus and breathe in the smell of (red?) rubber balloons. It's also the only rubber scent I've come across that I like.
    I have - it was a cinnamon recommendation that I instantly disliked due to it's synthetic, hairspray-esque note. Honestly, I don't remember rubber in it at all.

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    Does anyone get a rubber note from Tuberose Indiana and, to a lesser extent, Tuberose Criminalle ?
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    Default Re: Rubber Soul -or- how I learned to love rubber in scents

    In another post you asked whether folks like bitter orange and I replied, it just depends on what they do with it. That said, I have yet to find a scent with rubber in it that I like. Not ruling it out categorically, but have yet to find something (I admit I haven't tried that many) with rubber notes that I want to wear. So far, too many associations with latex gloves, condoms, changing flat tires and orthopedic devices. I'll keep sniffing...

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    Often the use of rosemary reminds me of latex. I get this with the opening notes of Lalique's Lion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zztopp View Post
    Does anyone get a rubber note from Tuberose Indiana and, to a lesser extent, Tuberose Criminalle ?
    Yes, from Tubéreuse Criminelle. For a brief moment, I also smelled something that reminded me of wax lips.

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    Default Re: Rubber Soul -or- how I learned to love rubber in scents

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    Any fragrances with rubber notes in it, that I didn't list?
    Have you ever smelled Gomma by Etro? It's worth a sniff if you can find it. The Nordstrom in San Francisco used to carry it, but they dropped the whole line.

    I don't understand why stores do that crap with perfectly decent scents. They may not sell as much as better-known brands, but they pay for themselves by attracting knowledgeable clientele. What dolts these marketing people are, with their stupid 'bottom line'! What they end up with instead is the lowest common denominator.
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    I find a fresh rubber in Creed Cuir de Russie.

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    I love the smell of rubber so thanks for this post.

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    I smell a rubber note in Imagine by Jean Louis Vermeil

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    Default Re: Rubber Soul -or- how I learned to love rubber in scents

    what rubber, tuberose, rosemary and leather fragrances have in common is they are all phenolic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by out of smoke View Post
    I love the smell of rubber so thanks for this post.
    Ur welcome.

    Gosh, I forgot about this thread from way back. Since then, I think I still sort of enjoy the rubber note, although I indeed find it challenging to wear rubber prominent fragrances.

    I will add to the original list:

    Tom of Finland by ELDO
    S-ex by S-Perfumes

    Plus Christopher Brosius has some straight-up rubber absolutes that you can smell/sample in his CB I Hate Perfume Brooklyn store: Rubber, Rubber (Inner Tube) and Burnt Rubber. All three of them gave me a headache sort of instantly, when I smelled them.
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    Gomma by Etro is a phenomenal rubber scent.

    Also Westside by Bond no.9.

    It has this sort of barbie doll plastic smell that simply works well.
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    Interesting post. I need to read it in greater detail before doing my next video review, Kenzo Por Homme. I've noticed a very strong rubber note in that too.
    Pleas feel free to check out my Youtube channel for frag reviews and let me know what you think.

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