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    Default Gris Clair - wtf?!

    WHAT IS THiS?!

    Dehydrated ambergris, set aflame...then the ashes burned again.

    Who could possibly wear this?

    I don't dislike the smell, but it just smells so burnt that it blows my mind. Officially inducted into my fragrance-oddity hall of fame, including Acier Aluminum, Cuiron, and Dzing!

    By far the strangest of the Lutens I just tested (almost all of them). Daim Blonde, on the other hand, is getting purchased asap!
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    Default Re: Gris Clair - wtf?!

    WHAT IS THiS?!
    Er, simply one of the best frags ever created.......

    I've got 2 spritzes on the top and the bottom of my wrists as I key this. I smell nothing "burnt" I love it!


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    Default Re: Gris Clair - wtf?!

    Then WHAT IS that???

    There's SOMETHING sticking out, into your face, when you sniff this. Something very odd. Very bitter. Is that just straight ambergris? Is that what ambergris smells like? What IS that???
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    I share your opinion. Unfortunately I didn't received my Daim Blond sample, but the other seven SL frags - well didn't impress me at all. I haven't found one single among them I would like to own to smell like it. Maybe I'm uneducate to understand them.

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    Default Re: Gris Clair - wtf?!

    I don't get anything burned in it. Gris Clair is a great take on lavender and one of the best of Lutens.

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    I get that burnt opening but i love it .. .

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    I don't get burnt, I get camphor and lavender

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    All I got was some sweet, lavenderish thing. There are a lot better lavender scents out there.
    Guerlain 's Lavande Velours or Creeds Royal Scottish lavender to name a few.

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    I get NO burnt top notes in GC. I do, like someone mentioned above, get a sharp medicinal note that transitions in a resinous pine scent. For some it makes GC uplifting, cold and clear - for others (like me) it ruins it and more specifically it gives me a headache. Great lavender though.

    Burnt ambergris sounds kinda neat though.
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    I was thinking about trading in Douce Amere for GC! It's the warmest lavender I've ever tried and I like it!

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    I own Gris Clair, and while it does have a smokey element at first, I don't get much of a burnt smell from it. I think it's really reactive to skin chemistry, or just different noses.

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    Gris Claire is my least favorite of the Lutens line. It smells like a damp cotton shirt being scorched too long under a hot iron until smoke rises. It is the worst lavender fragrance. On the other hand, Encens et Lavende is the best Lavender and Inscense on the market period! I ordered Daim Blond today!

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    I like GC quite a bit. It wasn't love at first sniff, but I've found the lavender/camphor/smoke accord to be quite endearing.

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    Ambergris does not smell burnt or burned. It has a buttery woody incense like smell. It is usually combined with tonkin or benzoin or vanilla to sweeten it some. That is my experiance with it. Gris Clair to my nose has an initial smokiness or incense under the lavendar and camphor. Not my cup of tea but for those that don't care for overly sweet scents this is a good frag

    Not the best representation of a lavandar scent to my mind. Others will surely disagree but that is all part of the fun of being on this website.

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    Burnt? I dont get it, and I dont find Gris Clair odd at all. Its not the finest lavender fragrance (the other notes distract from the lavender note), and I prefer Encens et Lavande as well.
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    Default Re: Gris Clair - wtf?!

    I do pick up on the lavender, but thats not what I'm getting at here...

    Its not really smoky, per se, either...or resinous. When I think resinous, I think of Bois du Portugal.

    "medicinal" and "scorched cotton shirt" are the best analogies to what I'm trying to describe, so far.
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    I like Gris Clair and appreciate the fact that it is very dry compaired to most of the SL line. Sillage is deceptively powerful. To me, the SL that really makes me want to gag is Chypre Rouge---some kind of diabolical ointment.

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    OK, so I am wearing Gris Clair right now (from a sample - thanks Kyra) and it's been quite a while since my post above.

    I smell EXACTLY what Scentronic says above - the 'burnt' smell is enveloping me all over. I stuck my arm out and asked someone to tell me what they smell. It took them a while...I said 'lavender, do you smell lavender?'...'No', they said. 'I smell something that smells like rust'. When I said, 'Doesn't it smell like electrical wires that are rusted and old?' they totally agreed. "Ewww...I can even taste the metal!' they said after I pulled my arm away from their nose.

    Skin chemistry is amazing - because many of you above don't get this accord at all on your skin, which is extremely fascinating. And yet on me, that is the most prominent part of GC.

    I think Scentronic's 'scorched cotton shirt' description is a quite perfect way of describing what I'm smelling.

    Quite possibly one of the weirdest accords I've ever got from a Lutens.
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    Default Re: Gris Clair - wtf?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Scentologist View Post
    Gris Claire is my least favorite of the Lutens line. It smells like a damp cotton shirt being scorched too long under a hot iron until smoke rises. It is the worst lavender fragrance. On the other hand, Encens et Lavende is the best Lavender and Inscense on the market period! I ordered Daim Blond today!
    I totally disagree with your statement. I think Gris Clair is one of the best Lutens fragrances there is - a sharp, crisp take on lavender. It is an overall excellent fragrance.

    I personally smell nothing burnt or scorched about it. But then maybe my sense of smell has been affected by sniffing too much Pomegranate Noir....
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    Burnt? No way! Sure, there's a camphoraceous-mineralic note that distinguishes GC but nothing on fire.

    It also happens to be one of my holy grails, and I've gotten a few compliments on it from my friends.

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    Default Re: Gris Clair - wtf?!

    burnt ashes of lavender? It is similar to burning Lavender essential oil on the pot.

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    I think it must be your skin chemistry. Gris Clair is one of my favourites and is probably one of the least weird Lutens - dear God, not even in the same galaxy as Dzing! Try it on paper or fabric.

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    I also took against this totally and instantly.
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    Yeah, i find Gris Clair to be rather classy and tame compared to most lutens - but I think what people are reacting to is the stone/ash notes in the base. To me those notes don't come out much until the rest of the notes have faded away, and then you have this gross stoney, metallic, ashy residue that sort of feels like a stone knife cutting you. I guess that's what people are smelling right away.

    I find it's a great fragrance that gets a little ugly at the end, which is like alot of Lutens, but I guess you guys are sensitive to those ugly notes and are catching them right away.

    Until then it's lavender wrapped in creamy iris, and the opening just smells like lavender essential oil.
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    In general, I find SL overpraised and overpriced, but I love Gris Clair. It is the only SL I've found FBW for me so far. (Ambre Sultan was a near miss.) I do smell the burntness along with the camphor and lavender, but I find it oddly enjoyable. It certainly lacks that cloying honey sweetness that most of SL frags are drenched in. I do find it odd that several folks have been unable to smell the burnt ashiness in it; yet more evidence of the individuality of scent perception I suppose. This is off topic but I've never been able to figure out the many Bois du Portugal and Third Man comparisons either. To me, those two have nothing in common with each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonyprince View Post
    I do smell the burntness along with the camphor and lavender, but I find it oddly enjoyable. It certainly lacks that cloying honey sweetness that most of SL frags are drenched in. I do find it odd that several folks have been unable to smell the burnt ashiness in it; yet more evidence of the individuality of scent perception I suppose.
    Me too.

    If I could get past the inevitable small headache I get when I wear it, I'd buy a bottle right away.

    I liken this strange burnt accord (and it's oddness) to that plastic accord I smell in Vetiver Extraordinaire by Malle. They don't smell alike, but rather they are strange, synthetic accords mixed in the very middle of a complex, luxurious and classy fragrance. Yin/yang - if you will.
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    I do feel a burnt note in GC. Like a bonfire on the snowy ground. Very clear contrast: coldness and flame.

    I feel the same idea of burnt note in Mugler's A-man - both have something headache inducining

    GC is a moody scent, like L'Eau D'Hiver
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    Default Re: Gris Clair - wtf?!

    Quote Originally Posted by DreamerII View Post
    I do feel a burnt note in GC. Like a bonfire on the snowy ground. Very clear contrast: coldness and flame.

    I feel the same idea of burnt note in Mugler's A-man - both have something headache inducining
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    dudes, I will take your gris clair. msg me!

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    I also get the burnt note in GC but see nothing wrong with it. I find Bogart pour Homme to be very similar to Gris Clair minus the smokiness - or less of it, perhaps you could give that one a try as well. It's also much cheaper.

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