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    Default >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 1, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    For newcomers, here's the lowdown on this monthly online event:
    Every member, any gender, novice or otherwise, is invited to apply a fragrance related to the theme of the month (listed below) and share your thoughts on the first Saturday of the month. This isn't a mandatory assignment. It's just for fun. Because not everyone logs in on weekends, you're encouraged to continue to add comments within the themed thread on subsequent days. If you don't join us for this month's discussion, please look ahead at the tentative lineup and join in at a later date.
    January ~ Oriental
    February ~ Animalic

    (civet-, castoreum-, leather-, or musk-influenced scents)

    March ~ Chypre
    April ~ Floral
    May ~ Fruity
    June ~ Citrus
    July ~ Green
    August ~ Fresh or aquatic
    September ~ Fougere

    ("fern like;" lavender + woods + coumarin + geranium + oakmoss)

    October ~ Ambery
    November ~ Spicy
    December ~ Gourmand
    (fragrances with a foody note, but not usually fruity)
    See previous SnS discussions:
    January 6, 2007 ~ Orientals February 3, 2007 ~ Animalics March 2, 2007 ~ Chypres April 14, 2007 ~ Florals May 4, 2007 ~ Fruity June 2, 2007 ~ Citrus September 1, 2007 ~ Fougere October 6, 2007 ~ Amber November 3, 2007 ~ Spicy
    [For the months of July and August 2007, regular BN was offline and supporters had access to an abbreviated site. We discussed aquatics and greens, but those posts are no longer accessible.]
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    Default Re: >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 2, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    Ooh yay I can't wait!! I love gourmands

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    Default Re: >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 2, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    Hi Quarry,

    This sounds like fun. But - I have still not gotten used to these new categories for scents...I am very confused about what is or isn't a "gourmand" .
    I have lots of frags that have vanilla...quite a few with peach notes - but much of what I have/love seems to be floral, oriental or a combo of the two.

    Could someone please take a look at my wardrobe and tell me what is a gourmand there, if any - including tested or to test (where my samples are listed)?
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    Default Re: >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 2, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    I am also very uncertain about what scents belong to this group; hopefully you wll get many replies..
    Maybe Sugar by Fresh?
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    Default Re: >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 2, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    Musse - glad it's not just me!

    Dunno about the Sugar - it was a gift and is currently being used to scent toilet paper rolls!
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    Default Re: >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 2, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeOlive View Post
    Could someone please take a look at my wardrobe and tell me what is a gourmand there, if any - including tested or to test (where my samples are listed)?
    I'm with Musse, Fresh Sugar would fit nicely with its base notes of vanilla and caramel.

    Quote Originally Posted by musse View Post
    I am also very uncertain about what scents belong to this group; hopefully you wll get many replies..
    Maybe Sugar by Fresh?
    From your wardrobe Musse, Gourmandises and Une Bois Vanille contain some gourmand notes.

    As for me, I may indulge in Serge Lutens Rahat Loukoum.

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    Default Re: >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 2, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    The definition given at The Perfumed Court is, "Gourmand: scents with edible or dessert-like qualities. These often contain notes like vanilla and tonka bean, as well as synthetic components designed to resemble food flavors."

    DeeOlive, your wardrobe doesn't have a particularly gourmand leaning. Perhaps this is an opportunity for you to "take a hit" off of a tester sometime in the near future and share your experience here.

    You can search for foody fragrance notes you prefer: cocoa, gingerbread, caramel, almond, coconut. (My favorite in this category is Chopard Mira Bai's praline candy accord.)

    I just did a search for "gourmand" at Lucky Scent, and 21 fragrances popped up.

    As with all these categorizations, there's lots of overlap and no clear delineation for many scents.
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    I hope my nose is recovered. I have a terrible head cold and have stayed away from work today - I feel awful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by musse View Post
    I am also very uncertain about what scents belong to this group; hopefully you wll get many replies..
    Musse, you can also choose Serendipitous from your wardrobe - chocolate, isn't it? Or any of your Maison de la Vanille.
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    Ack!! I am on a 'Guerlain Week'

    Now, the Spiritueuse Double Vanille has not arrived yet so I have to pick something else.

    And I don't know what!! Plenty of vanilla in the Guerlains, but I would not call Shalimar a Gourmand, I think
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    Default Re: >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 2, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    Ahhh gourmand. Yeah now we talkin!!!! Sweet scents for my sweet tooth. Now, this is making me want to go out and find a new one. My wardrobe has a few delicious treats, but I want something new.....As If.

    As if I needed a reason to buy perfume lol.

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    I'm one of those being slightly confused over gourmands as well....Chergui is an oriental and not a Gourmand,right?But from my wardrobe I think Angel,Lolita Lempicka L,Omnia and Bulgari Black fits the bill...The last two less so?Hmm....Decisions,decisions..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_in_Black View Post
    Musse, you can also choose Serendipitous from your wardrobe - chocolate, isn't it? .....
    Oh GAWD yes....that is one serious yummy, that Serendipitous.

    I may just go all out with my fave bedtime combo - Amorito (chocklit) Loukhoum (AL) and Cafe Noir!!!. (I'm not an alcoholic for nothing. If it's worth doing - it's worth overdoing!!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarry View Post
    The definition given at The Perfumed Court is, "Gourmand: scents with edible or dessert-like qualities. These often contain notes like vanilla and tonka bean, as well as synthetic components designed to resemble food flavors."

    DeeOlive, your wardrobe doesn't have a particularly gourmand leaning. Perhaps this is an opportunity for you to "take a hit" off of a tester sometime in the near future and share your experience here.

    You can search for foody fragrance notes you prefer: cocoa, gingerbread, caramel, almond, coconut. (My favorite in this category is Chopard Mira Bai's praline candy accord.)

    I just did a search for "gourmand" at Lucky Scent, and 21 fragrances popped up.

    As with all these categorizations, there's lots of overlap and no clear delineation for many scents.
    Thank you Quarry. I did order SL Datura Noir a week ago. It hasn't arrived yet. I see it has coconut, almond and vanilla - will that work? I didn't smell the coconut in the tester, on me - but will be interested to see how it goes with a full wearing.
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    Default Re: >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 2, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    Yum! All these suggestions sound fantastic... and delicious!

    I think my gourmand choice is going to be a full wearing of Michael Storer's Yvette, which may not qualify as a classic gourmand, but I think has plenty of food-y notes in it (tonka, tarragon, etc.). I fear this is going to be another addition to the wish list...
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    Now this is something
    I can do .
    Gourmands are my
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    Ah! Like Dee OLive I'm struggling a bit to come up with something gourmand that I'll enjoy wearing. I suppose I could go CSP Vanille Coco, but I'd like to stretch a bit.
    I've got samples of Daim Blond, Datura Noir and Yves Rocher Coccon. Which of those fit the bill best?
    (I know I have CSP Amour de Cacao as well but honestly it only lasts about 2 minutes on me. I'll happily put that on first thing but I'll need a go-to if I do that!)
    Go on - boss me around. You know I like it.
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    Default Re: >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 2, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    Quote Originally Posted by Wordbird View Post
    Go on - boss me around. You know I like it.
    I'd say your Fig, Almond and Cassis fragrance is gourmand-like.
    Wait ... that's not bossy enough. Er, um [deepening voice and changing tone].

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Provocateur View Post
    Now this is something
    I can do .
    Gourmands are my
    favorites.

    Pretty base of me?
    Same here, my dear, although I'd change that into orientals with a gourmand touch. However, I also enjoy full-on gourmands.
    Don't worry, our taste is as good as any other sophisticated perfume lover's. We just have different scent preferences! Vive la différence
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wordbird View Post
    Ah! Like Dee OLive I'm struggling a bit to come up with something gourmand that I'll enjoy wearing. I suppose I could go CSP Vanille Coco....Go on - boss me around. You know I like it.
    Jeez! And you've got VIWater and Noir Epices and Miami (yum) Glo and all them Occitanes....YOUR problem is which one you gorgeous thing you.....
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    I think it will be my brand new bottle of Vanilla Grapefruit by Lavanila - this is so sweet and tart my teeth hurt if I over apply it.

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    It has been a while since I participated in S & S, I feel I lack the vocabulary to describe what I think I am sniffing (read:- I am poor at identifying notes ), but on Saturday it will most likely be my new love Un Bois Vanille. :bounce:
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    I think I'm going to try one of my "problematic" gourmand samples: Either L'Artisan Piment Brulant or Parfumerie Generale Un Crime Exotique. I think it will depend on how adventurous I'm truly feeling. Un Crime Exotique has smelled good on me 1 day and scrubber the next. Piment Brulant is a scent that reminds me of Chicken Mole - and smelling like that may be an issue at my nephew's 1st birthday party
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    Is someone doing Britney Spears's Fantasy?

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    Default Re: >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 2, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    Quote Originally Posted by castorpollux View Post
    Is someone doing Britney Spears's Fantasy?
    The fragrance or her actual...fantasy?

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    Oh dear, already late on Thursday! Is it near time to form a circle and invoke the Moondeva? One of her magick lists would be very welcome about now.

    Musse, if you can't say what a scent contains, tell us how it feels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyra View Post
    Oh dear, already late on Thursday! Is it near time to form a circle and invoke the Moondeva? One of her magick lists would be very welcome about now.

    Musse, if you can't say what a scent contains, tell us how it feels.
    We need to round up, cause i invoked her over at the Tuberose=Rubber? thread and she hasn't appeared -yet-.

    I'm still pondering what to choose for this thread and i also am behind on the Amber and the Spicy S&S!
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    Smile Re: >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 2, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    Hello folks!

    'Gourmand' in perfumes to me are scents that feature an 'edible' accord / note / aspect to their character. This does not include perfumes that feature notes like Tarragon, Basil, Rosemary or Sage which fall under the 'herbaceous' genre of perfumery. It also overlaps but does not always include perfumes featuring fruit notes. The key to whether a scent is foody or gourmand is whether the note causes an involuntary salivary response and / or conjures images / associations with food in the minds of those smelling the scent.

    http://community.basenotes.net/showthread.php?t=192040&page=2&highlight=gourmand

    Personally, I find most mainstream gourmands simplistic and juvenile (probably because they are much preferred by younger (20 and younger) fragrance wearers. The phenomena of grown (30+ ) women preffering these scents is a more modern trend and is most prevalent in the Western hemisphere (mainly the USA).

    When I do enjoy a gourmand scent it is usually a sophisticated note such as licorice, coffee, or liqueur rather than the more obvious notes of caramel, chocolate, vanilla and tonka bean. I have found that a foody scent is gourmand but not all gourmands are 'foody'. Gourmands have come a long way since the launch of Thierry Mugler's Angel and there is a gourmand for everyone out there!

    My personal 'gourmands':

    TBS Altaro
    Boucheron Trouble - smooth almond
    Trussardi Python - wonderful chocolate heart accord
    Caron Farnesiana parfum - dominated by heliotrope but this is a cosy, almost edible almondy delight on me.
    Serge Lutens Rahat Loukhoum - official all about almond but this is pure Mr Kiplings Cherry Bakewell on me...
    Serge Lutens Louve - another almond from this house but this time it is the scent of the candied cherry on top of the aforementioned Cherry Bakewell (dessert)
    TBS Amorito - sophisticated but casual jasmine / chocolate dominated blend
    TBS Strawberry
    TBS Fuzzy Peach
    Ava Luxe Milk parfum - pure Nestle Condensed Milk on me. Very comforting.
    Ava Luxe Cafe Noir parfum - truest coffee / coffee cake scent ever!
    Givenchy Organza Indecence - warm, sandalwoody cinnamon dusted vanilla biscuits
    TBS Woody Sandalwood (vintage) - opens like mince pies / winter fruits with a dash of spice before the sandalwood 'emerges'. Latest 'blend' is more fruit / spice than sandalwood.
    Yves Rocher Vanille Bourbon - the scent of rich, expensive, balsamic bourbon vanilla essence.
    Christian Dior Miss Dior Cherie - Synthetic strawberries and champagne. Delicate and fun in summer, feminine.
    Yves Rocher Neonatura Cocoon - warm, sensual chocolate musk (what Frederic Malle Musc Ravageur would be without the powder)
    Badgely Mischka Femme - Berries, patchouli and champagne
    Hermes Ambre Narguile / Joop! Femme - Boozy soft balsamic cinnamon / spice
    Diesel Zero Plus Feminine - Opens as a sweet red berries and cherry milkshake and ends as sexy musk laced with coconut
    Diesel Plus Plus Feminine - alledged to be inspired and built around milk but is more of a warm slightly orangey tinged caramel.
    Diesel Zero Plus Masculine - warm, sandalwoody cinnamon dusted vanilla biscuits
    Dunhill Desire for a Man - warm (sophisticated) toffee apples on a soft musk base
    Police Eyes for You - opens with effervescent pink grapefruit but the main accord is a yummy hazelnut musk
    Yardley Fruit Sensations: Raspberry & Vanilla
    Yardley Fruit Sensations: Strawberry & Kiwi
    Guerlain Aqua Allegoria Winter Delice - wonderful gingerbread accord
    Serge Lutens Douce Amere - licorice / anise and a warm yummy vanilla woods base
    Lolita Lempicka 'L'- another gourmand vanilla woods blend laced with licorice / anise
    Thierry Mugler B*Men - coffee & pine
    Thierry Mugler A*Men - caramel and patchouli
    Serge Lutens Un Bois Vanille - licorice laced woody vanilla
    Dunhill Desire for a Woman - yet another licorice / anise laced woody vanilla
    Chopard Casmir - the tonka bean in the base of this can be very temperamental on me. But on a good day - imagine homemade indian rice pudding with nutmeg and slices of pan sauteed peach slices coated in honey...
    Chopard Mira Bai - a fresher, less cloying woodier version of Casmir
    Five Star Fragrance Company Royal Secret II / Royal Secret for Men - wonderful sweet aromatic mulled winter fruits on a woody base. The men's version is drier / less sweet / woodier / spicier than the females.
    Rochas Femme (modern) - not officially a gourmand, but I often find that this has an almost gourmand almond patisserie character to it. Probably due to the peach / plum notes on the sweetened vanilla chypre base.
    L'Artisan Tea 4 Two - the honey & tea notes in this scent dominate on my skin
    Bond No.9 Chinatown - may not be a gourmand for others but there is a distinctive coconut / paper paste accord in this that makes it incredibly foody on me.
    CDG Wood Coffee - not much coffee in this. Like the coffee note in Balmain Balmya and BY D&G Woman (leopard skin bottle) it is mainly in the background providing warm and complexity to the blend. But this background warm coupled with the yummy warm vanilla woods makes this another gourmand winter favourite.
    Boots Natural Collection Black Cherry Musk - smells exactly like it's name implies.
    TBS Almond body products - I know these are not strictly scents but this is a great 'true' almond scent for those who love gourmands. The scent is strong enough to scent without using an EDT. Best to use showergel + body lotion / butter.
    TBS Brazil Nut body products - dark (burnt) vanilla caramel
    TBS Coconut body products - 'true' fresh coconut flesh scent
    TBS Vanilla Spice body products - vanilla and cinnamon / nutmeg cookies
    TBS Cranberry body products - fresh, effervescent, 'juicy' cranberry / red berry scent
    TBS Satsuma body products and perfume oil
    Ava Luxe Forbidden Fruits - pomegranate + fig
    Ava Luxe Wild Black Fig - sophisticated scent but still yummy!
    Kenzo Jungle L'Elephant - ocassionally this can turn into a spice nightmare on me but usually this is a spiced plum pudding delight on me, especially when the vanilla comes into play
    Dinner by Bobo - similar to L'Elephant but the vanilla is more pronounced
    Jo Malone Wild Fig & Cassis - fresh green figs
    Jo Malone Pomegranate Noir - sophisticated red berry dominated smoky spiced blend
    Jo Malone Nectarine Blossom & Honey - delicate sweet peaches laced with honey
    Jean Louis Scherrer Nuits Indiennes - another heliotrope scent similar to Caron Farnesiana
    Jean Patou Patou For Ever - this is officially a chypre scent but on me it is a sweet pineapple dominated confection
    Parfums de Couer Pineapple Fantasy - similar to Patou For Ever but fresher with a truer pineapple character
    Parfums de Couer Sugar Apple Fantasy - more cotton candy than sugar apple but fun and yummy none the less
    Guerlain Shalimar Eau Legere - pure lemon and vanilla pie
    Givenchy Oblique Rewind - smoky cherry liqueur
    Demeter Tiramisu
    iPdF Ambra del Nepal - this is not a true gourmand but the smoky vanilla amber in this reads as a gourmand scent to me. I think it is the 'texture' of the scent that does it for me.
    iPdF Vaniglia de Madagascar - very pleasant foody vanilla.
    Demeter Dulce de Leche

    I do hope that this helps some folks! ::smile::
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    Default Re: >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 2, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    Quote Originally Posted by moondeva View Post
    I do hope that this helps some folks! ::smile::
    Thanks Moondeva! It sure does

    Is someone doing Britney Spears's Fantasy?
    Maybe I bought samples of Pink Sugar which always seems to be compared to it so I'm thinking Fantasy on one wrist and Pink Sugar on the other.

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    Default Re: >>>Sniff 'n' Speak Saturday, Dec. 2, 2007>>>GOURMAND

    Quote Originally Posted by Quarry View Post

    I'd say your Fig, Almond and Cassis fragrance is gourmand-like.
    Wait ... that's not bossy enough. Er, um [deepening voice and changing tone].

    Get your arse on a plane and get to my house!
    I'll douse you in Nuits de Noho, Black Orchid,
    Mira Bai, and Ambre Narguile!


    Too forceful?
    Tee hee hee!
    Made me grin - does that count?
    Thanks for the help though - tomorrow (Matthew) I shall be Figgy. Hoorah!

    (And in case you're going Matthew? I'm Quarry! There's a UK TV show called Stars In Their Eyes in which people sing as their favourite star and just before they go backstage to get transformed they say to the host "Tonight, Matthew, I am going to be Elvis/Cher/Judy Garland/Billy Ray Cyrus")
    Last edited by Wordbird; 30th November 2007 at 10:54 AM.
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