Thread: Diet philosophy?
The pleasure principle. Eating is joy and my body deserves only the best food to build its new cells from. The only weak link in the hedonistic chain is the atrocious university cafeteria, where they serve "food" instead of food. I avoid it where I can, but sociability demands a culinary sacrifice once a week.
Quality is a great dietician. I love chocolate, but what I eat is, e.g., Michel Cluizel's Grand Amere. 85% cocoa, no vanillin or lecithin and such a rich, full flavor that it's impossible to eat more than two bits, where others may devour Cadbury bars by the dozen without finding fulfilment.
II est de forts parfums pour qui toute matière/Est poreuse. On dirait qu'ils pénètrent le verre.
Cluizel makes truly great chocolate, no doubt about it.
Speaking of matters chocolate: have any of you ever eaten or cooked with raw cocoa/cacao nibs? I know that they're full of anti-oxidants, and the movie Chocolat makes a great fuss about their much touted aphrodisiac qualities. I seem (cacao nibs) in my local health food shop, but have yet to try them. (They're pretty expensive.) Anyone? I'm not even sure how one goes about eating them.
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"Live, live, live! Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death."
I eat a mostly vegan diet but I have a soy allergy, so I allow myself fish a couple of times a week for protein.
I do 90 minutes of hot yoga twice a week.
I usually eat oatmeal with nuts for breakfast, some kind of soup for lunch, dinner is often sushi or thai or something asian \, and I almost always have some kind of dessert, whether it is a couple pieces of chocolate, sorbet, or just a spoonful of peanut butter!
I am mostly happy with my body. Wouldn't mind to lose maybe five or ten pounds around my middle!
My philosophy? Whatever doesn't make me feel sick I'll eat. I have Crohn's Disease and there's a lot of food out there that makes eating a chore and put me in a lot of pain. Vegetables are the worst offender.
I've got no diet, or rather positive eatting habbits, going. i work both first and second shift, so i eat whenever i can get a chance to find food. we don't keep much of it in the house, so whatever food is about, i'll eat.
i could never be a vegetarian, i like me my steak. plus I'm looking to get into spearfishing... maybe.
i prefer whole wheat breads, but i'm a sucker for good pan cubano. i also feel that butter is better than "butter tasting" spreads. same goes for sugar, maple syrup, and other things that are considered bad, but their supposedly healthier counterparts are laden with chemicals i can't pronounce.
i try not to eat fast food, but its cheap and easy. i usually try to go for the better resteraunts get a big meal, then eat half and save half for lunch the next day.
i don't work out much, but i'm hoping once i get a normal first shift only job (sigh, some day) i'll start dancing again and maybe go to the gym. right now, i dive (duh) and attempt to ride my bike (do you know the pain your butt is in after a 12-13 mile ride? oye. give me mountainbike trails over roads anyday!). i sorely miss college; i did judo and dance, so i was a little more trim then.
all in all, i think moderation is a good eating pattern. too much or too little of anything isn't good... unless its perfume, then too much isn't enough (bottles, that is)
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I'm trying to lose weight and am having success with Weight Watchers' Core program. Since I started in April I've lost almost 15 lbs. Their Core program allows you eat what you like from their "Core" list of foods, which includes lean protein, fat-free dairy, fresh fruits & vegetables, healthy oils (olive and canola), and 100% whole grains. The emphasis is on mindfulness, portion control, being active, being aware of your food issues and managing them. It's a healthy program. I find my sweet cravings are a bit more controllable by eating whole grains, which keep the blood sugar level more even than refined carbs. But if I'm really craving something, I just have it rather than trying to substitute something more low-cal that never really satisfies anyway. I'm a real foody - I eat almost anything, but I'm trying to be moderate about everything. If I deprive myself of any food I really love (cheese, chocolate, chardonnay, crab cakes...as my mom says, "all the good stuff starts with the letter C"...then I know I will not stick with that way of eating. I just won't. My diet has to be a no-brainer. This program is working well for me, and I'm losing at a healthy rate, a little over a pound a week (I'm 5'8" tall), and I'm eating healthier than ever just by reducing refined carbs alone. And I don't feel deprived because I like everything I'm supposed to be eating, and I have some wiggle room for treats. I'm not affiliated with WW in any commercial way, just wanted to share my experience.
What is the Serge Kreutz food philosophy?
The Serge Kreutz food philosophy is for both dieters and gourmets what Charles Darwin's principles of evolution are for biologists.
Both change everything.
Just as biology wasn't the same after Charles Darwin, dieting and gourmet eating are not the same after Serge Kreutz.
You can summarize Charles Darwin in one sentence: different forms of life evolve from previous forms of life by natural and sexual selection.
You can also summarize Serge Kreutz in one sentence: differentiate between the nutrition value and the pleasure value of food, and be selective about what you pass to your stomach.
If the world adopts Serge Kreutz' food philosophy, there will no longer be obese people.
Obesity is unnecessary and so easy to avoid for anybody who unserstands the Serge Kreutz food philosophy.
At the core is, as mentioned above, the differentiation between the nutritional value of food, and the psychological (pleasure) component.
Much has been written about the nutritional value of all different foods humans consume. I do not have to add anything to this, except a word of caution: as you aim to be of ideal weight (height in centimeter minus 100, minus 10 percent = weight in kilogram), any food that passes to your stomach has to be of limited quantity (some fruit every day, a few nuts, an egg).
Now, that doesn't sound very satisfying. And indeed, it is not. It is also not very satiating.
But being overly satiated is negative from any perspective you look at it.
The long-term effect of constantly filling your stomach with foodstuff, and overloading your intestines with content is a myriad of problems associated with being overweight.
But even the short-term effects are no good. Many foodstuffs cause an irritation of the digestive tract, and there is a plethora of unhealthy components in many foods, many over time even with a cancer risk.
Stuffing yourself with food also suppresses testosterone, thus inhibiting libido, and slows down brain function, thus making you less intelligent.
Yeah, but I love food. And you do.
And Serge Kreutz fully recognizes this. According to Serge Kreutz, apart from sexual intercourse, our relationship with food is what makes our lives worth living.
And Serge Kreutz actually encourages you to indulge in food. Copious quantities. Orgies of taste.
Just follow one important advice: don't discard into your stomach what your mouth enjoys. Discard into a plastic bag. Just drink (and swallow intentionally) plain water after the bolus has passed into a plastic bag.
Yes, you will feel satisfied after such a meal. For satisfaction from food is a quality that comes from the taste of food. And you have taste receptors only in your mouth, and the esophagus and all further organs of food digestion are void of taste receptors (thank God, because chyme tastes horrible, first like vomit, then like shit).
It is obvious that food-related satisfaction is a consequence neither of the nutritional value of food, nor of its effect of loading the stomach and further organs of the digestive tract.
If the satisfaction from food where related to either of the above two, we would all be eating optimally formulated silage, just as hogs.
Come on! Satisfaction from food comes entirely from the taste of food. Nothing else.
It's in the brain. What we feel in the digestive tract beyond the mouth is satiation, not satisfaction. Even though undersatiation is registered in the brain as hunger, full satiation actually is a handicap on the path to further satisfaction.
Remember your childhood? Having Sunday lunch at your grandma's? Or a Thanksgiving dinner? Eat as much as you can. Unlimited delicious food. Until you have to admit: I just can't eat any more! Absolutely full. But you still can lick spoons.
Didn't you feel just great?
Yes, putting loads of food in your mouth will cause a very positive mood. The uplifting effect is better than that of Prozac (the Viagra for the mind).
Now, if you avoid the satiation from passing food into your stomach, won't you be eating all day?
Serge Kreutz says No, you won't. And you can try this yourself.
The correct technique for kreutzing food is to drink (and swallow) some water in between instances of putting food into your mouth, and chewing and discarding it. This, along with the small quantities of food that anyway slide down your esophagus when you roll it in your mouth, is enough to stop any hunger signaling from the stomach.
Certainly, when kreutzing meals, you will put more food in your mouth than when consuming meals conventionally. Enjoy!
But sooner or later, your appetite will subside all by itself. Tastes, when experienced again and again, will lose intensity, and apart from that, there will, sooner or later, be a desire to do something else than eat.
That is when you are satisfied. Even though you are not satiated in the sense that you are burdened. It's full satisfaction, but satiation only by the water you drink and swallow in between discarding any other content of your mouth into plastic bags.
And you can do this for years. Never feel any food deprivation. And be of ideal weight forever.
Ok the post above seems like the most ridiculous thing ever. Eating by not eating. This is an eating disorder, not a diet to live on. Thread necromancy too.
But I do like the thread!
I was vegetarian for about 20 years, never vegan, but took to eating fish a couple of times a week a few years back, this actually improved my health - blood pressure and sugar went lower, weight stayed the same. Fish and walnuts, baby!
Moderation is the main diet value I hold; I don't like gluttony and also avoid dieting now because I was eating disordered as a teen and don't want to fall into a way controlling attitude toward eating, either.
I try to get as much good fats as possible from nuts, fish, avocado. Do eat full fat dairy too. Do not eat much prepared foods, we make everything at home (not out of choice, budget constraints - I'd love to eat out) but occasionally use sugar and often put white flour in bread. I have a Diet Coke habit since forever, this is my vice.
Walnuts (sometimes with dry fruit) for breakfast, or occasionally eggs or oatmeal instead.
Leftover supper for lunch (biggest meal - I try to eat a LOT at lunch)
Sometimes a fruit for snack, or small meal for teatime - a quesadilla or yogurt or something.
Supper - beans and rice and greens or some variation of that, usually. But sometimes eggs or fish or pasta or salad or veg stir fry or something else. Smaller portion at this time, pack most of it for tomorrow's lunch.
I think it works out to somewhere around 2000-2500 KCal, to maintain between 125-130lb at 5'9", yes thin but this is normal for me, I am not dieting or restricting anything, it's where my body settles at a healthy weight.
I work out at least 4x/week for an hour; Exercise is Very.Important IMO. The most important factor in healthy body.
I see I posted above about Weight Watchers. They are a great program, but I gave up because I don't like having to write down every little thing I eat. It was making me just obsess over what I could and could not eat all the time. Really annoying, and I didn't want to spend my life like that. So I quit and gained the weight back, lol!
I am really struggling with my weight for the first time in my life, well the past couple of years. Partially, it is hormonal - time of life stuff - and the rest is sheer lack of activity. If I'm quite physically active I can eat anything I like and not gain much. I have other diet related issues, though, that have cropped up as I've aged. I've been doing Blood Type Diet (Eat Right For Your Type by Dr. Peter D'Adamo) for the past year and that has cleared up a lot of those problems. Such as..."seasonal" allergies, migraine, acid indigestion, joint inflammation in my right hand, and some weird "bug" that would come and go. All of this has cleared up since following a different dietary protocol. Now if I can just motivate myself to join a gym, which I must do because I don't live in a pedestrian ruled environment anymore. It's all cars here.
p.s. I just dropped weight on Blood Type Diet as a side benefit, but I need to lose some more and that will only come with exercise.
Oh, and furthermore. My philosophy about diet is "eat when you're hungry". And don't eat garbage, or at least try to avoid it as much as possible. Eat lots of organic fruits & veggies, wild caught clean fish, grass fed beef if you eat meat (I do), organic grains. Eat everything as close to its original state as possible, no frozen dinners and boxed mixes. That stuff has so much junk in it, it will kill you!
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I don't do anything out of the normal. Try to eat healthy,balanced meals, exercise regularly, and just stay as active on a daily basis as my body will permit.
I don't "diet" as such - I think traditional dieting is a con and actually makes it harder to maintain the weight you want because it can reduce lean muscle mass/slow down the metabolism.
I generally eat real food by which I mean veges, fruit and some meats. I avoid processed foods.
That's not to say that I don't have processed food, I just make sure the majority of my meals are natural. To be honest, I prefer the taste too.
Otherwise I make sure I maintain a reasonable lean muscle mass.
It seems counter intuitive but it takes a hell of a lot of energy to maintain, build and repair muscle and while your body tries to do this it burns your fat (even at rest).
I know some people worry about "bulking up" but it takes serious and constant effort (hard weights 3+ times a week) for a year or more for this to happen.
I struggle with aerobic exercise and I figure why run for 30 mins every day when I can push weights or similar for 20 mins a week and get better results and eat more of what I like.
Most of the time I follow a vegan, mainly raw, diet.
Sometimes I eat fish or dairy, but not every day.
I try to eat as little flour/processed carbs (even wholewheat) as possible. If I don't eat any, all the better.
I never eat junk and I drink a lot of water.
I do Pilates at least 3 times a week, I walk and I have a stationary bike at home.
Diet philosophy? High quality foods made from scratch. Grass-fed/pastured/organic/biodynamic and so on, whenever possible. Eat only when hungry. Avoid sugars, fruits and grains, except for occasional treats, and make sure to eat plenty of natural, healthy fats like olive oil, coconut oil and macadamia oil, butter/ghee and preferably a good cod liver oil.
Ride a bike to work, do yoga, take brisk walks several times per week... Exercise!
Paleo Diet which is more of a lifestyle coupled with High Intensity Training has been a beautiful and ground breaking change for me.
I eat everything in moderation, with an emphasis on whole foods. I enjoy fruits, vegetables, grains, breads, pasta, cheese, meat, eggs, nuts and seeds, and olive oil. I eat sweets occasionally if it is worth it at the time. While a quality diet is important, I think it is also very important to do exercise. I do p90x as an exercise routine, and pilates/yoga/stretching/walking as part of my lifestyle.
I personally find that high-intensity exercise with a lot of sweating helps to cleanse the body.
Eat less, and less junk, and move more. Gaining muscle mass helps too. And cold showers (though perhaps a drop in the ocean if you are really struggling with your weight).
As Robin In Fl pointed out- exercise is very very important .
Eating 'clean' foods - unprocessed as much as possible ,not necessarily organic .
Omega 3-6-9 supplements are a must.
I have stopped eating gluten and I try not to get lactose into my system simply because they don't agree with me. Soda and diet soda are also really not good. I have stopped drinking diet soda completely. Alcohol , even the " good for your heart " red wine - no go . Just stay away from alcohol and drink water.
Mostly for me, it is consistent exercise 5-6 times a week - weights, cardio ,yoga . Just keep moving .
I don't diet per se but I am careful about what I put in my body and the quantities .
( Hormones ,for women ,can really derail our efforts , I know . I totally understand it. )
I generally eat whatever I want and try not to overdo sweets and fatty snacks. I usually lose weight when I totally cut out table sugar, but it's really difficult when cravings strike, so I try not to set myself up for failure.
Once in awhile, I set a strict diet (no sweets, no processed foods, etc.) but can never stick with it so I try just to exercise moderation and exercise ... my body. I like to eat a lot of whole grains, fresh fruits and veggies, and home cooked foods, but sometimes I just cannot afford to eat great. When that happens, I try not to beat myself up and resolve to do my best.
Also, I try to never skip breakfast or any meal, as this almost always results in poor choices later.
I take a multivitamin every day and drink a lot of coffee and tea which helps, I think, to control cravings somewhat. Sometimes when I'm craving sweets- and especially if there are none available- then I drink tea sweetened with sugar, or preferably honey.
I really want to start working out more. I walk a lot, but my body is so used to it that it doesn't burn calories or present any challenge. My knees are starting to feel funky from ill supportive shoes, tap dancing, and age I guess. This has really motivated me to start doing strength training and wearing better shoes.
I gotta get in shape in time for summer clothes! I don't want to look a busted can of biscuits in my swimsuit. *sigh.* Time to get to work.
I send thee this sweet perfume a fragrance to the fragrant, as one would offer wine to the god of wine.
I joined a gym the day after Christmas, one I like, but I'm still trying to motivate myself to get there 3x week minimum. I do weights and cardio when I'm there, which takes about an hour. It's so boring, I really hate it, but I very much like the feeling of having done it, though afterward I feel like I've been hit with a tranquilizer dart. And then I get ravenously hungry! Eat less, exercise more, like hell! Lol! Anyway, that aside, I haven't lost weight, but I have increased muscle mass and decreased body fat...slightly. And my biological age is supposedly three years younger than my real age, and I'm not in terrible shape but I'm just too FAT! I gave up sugar for Lent, so no chocolate lately. I've been eating pretty well, no processed foods at all, but I refuse to count calories and points and all that. I wish I lived in a pedestrian city where I could leave the car and walk everywhere. I avoid wheat, dairy, corn, and pork. When I cheat and have cheese I really feel it. Also no nightshades for me because they aggravate inflammation in my joints. <<<Miss Casey, take note.
Lilybelle - well done for joining a gym. Yay !!!
As a gym rat myself - yes you're right - it's tedious and boring !! I know ! *LOL* The best thing I ever did for my body is not food related .....I bought an iPod !!! If I didn't have my iPod for motivation - the gym would very very hard work. Having an iPod is also a subconscious message to other people at the gym - "I'm working hard , it's tough , please don't talk to me when I'm on my most painful last rep ! "
Miss Casey - maybe a change up from walking might help .Maybe you should mix up the exercise ..... Zumba is great fun! I love Zumba - some of those dance related exercises.
I also do Tracey Anderson DVDs which are okay but I'm not totally impressed . The exercises are not as satisfying as a good weights routine or a heart pumping run on the treadmill, IMHO . I'll still try to do them - she just goes really fast too .
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Thank you, Mimi. Zumba looks like sooo much fun! I'd like to try that, too, but I'm not quite ready for it. Not to mention imagining what I will look like doing it, lol!!! Dance classes are fun, though. When I get to where 3x week cardio/weights are routine for me, then I will fill in with some classes. Baby steps here.
.Also no nightshades for me because they aggravate inflammation in my joints. <<<Miss Casey, take note
Oh no! First I had to look up what night shades were, and then I realized that some of my favorite veggies are such ... oh well. It's good to know, anyway. Hm.
I've heard that Zumba is really fun, but I haven't tried it. I have done old time dance- clogging, tap, etc but it's been hardest of all on my knees, I think. That and those hard tap shoes. I may try swimming- though I'm afraid to wreck my hair- and today I went for a jog which I REALLY enjoyed. Just got some new running shoes. I also used to enjoy Pilates, which I may try again. And I wish I could get myself to a yoga class, really. But I just don't have time. Grr.Miss Casey - maybe a change up from walking might help .Maybe you should mix up the exercise ..... Zumba is great fun! I love Zumba - some of those dance related exercises.
Oh, and Mimi- I agree that the gym is tedious and boring. I was hoping it got easier, but I guess maybe not so much. Definitely should start bringing my ipod or something.
I send thee this sweet perfume a fragrance to the fragrant, as one would offer wine to the god of wine.
Miss Casey - bring your iPod ! *LOL* It's a life saver !
I don't swim anymore...because my hair can't take anymore chemicals ! Plus the sign " Pool is closed temporarily due to a chemical imbalance" kinda freaks me out. Usually it means someone peed in it or worse ......
Yeah, swimming pools kinda freak me out. I prefer natural bodies of water.
I send thee this sweet perfume a fragrance to the fragrant, as one would offer wine to the god of wine.
To lose weight, eat less.
To maintain muscle ( lean body mass ) while losing weight, lift weights, yes even you women.
Eat more protein than you do now to help with hunger and the muscle sparing effects.
No need to cut any food out, even "bad junk food"
you can lose weight eating twinkies and snickers bars, dont over think it and eat less.
Good day all.
When I cut out SUGAR, it is fairly easy to eat most foods, in normal quantities. I was forced to eliminate all sugars, a few years ago, when diagnosed with Diabetes 2. Then, with a blood test meter, and pricking the finger tips, strict control of SUGAR followed and the weight practically fell off.
Now, that the Diabetes 2 is under control, I stopped taking medications, and permit myself some sugar containing food, and sure enough, the weight starts climbing - ever so slowly from 120 lbs to 140 lbs on a 5' 6" frame. Not outlandish heavy, but this made me think that there is something to the theory to not eat donuts and a tuna salad on lettuce instead. Raw carrots and apples are also good fillers.
Popcorn - stupid ! Diet soda - just food colored sugar-replacement junk !
WATER in abundance, helps flush out the toxins.
EXERCISE, at least walking.
That's about it. Hope that helps.
There are no answers, only choices. (Stanislav Lem)
Is popcorn bad? I thought it was ok as long as you hold the butter etc.
My weight fluctuates alot , I'm what you might call an emotional or comfort eater . Having struggled with eating disorders in the past I have a difficult relationship with food and self image etc