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    I think you are probably right...aldehydes may be the problem. And thankfully, most of the frags I wear don't have aldehydes. What I'm going to do is go on a little perfume quest. When our directory is back, I'm going to look for perfumes with aldehydes and then have a sampling spree, and see what I can come up with. I might even be able to compile a personal 'black list' or something!
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    I think I know what you mean by "sickly", but it doesn't always bother me. When I try and conjure the smell of musk in my head, it makes me feel sick. But a lot of fragrances that I actually like have it. Er, hopefully this makes sense...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bernat View Post
    I think I know what you mean by "sickly", but it doesn't always bother me. When I try and conjure the smell of musk in my head, it makes me feel sick. But a lot of fragrances that I actually like have it. Er, hopefully this makes sense...
    Yes, it does, because some musks do that to me too. I love white musk, but I can't wear it. On other people, it smells great, but if I try to wear it, it distracts me constantly. However, perfumes with musk as a basenote can be fabulous, and I love Ave Luxe Gardenia Musk (for example).
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    I totally know what you are talking about. Chanel No 5 makes me sick! Most any perfume that I consider a sort of grande dame perfumes does that. I'm so modern--I like the stuff that is more a scent than a proper traditional perfume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JickyMan View Post
    In the Mid-80's I was stationed in DC. I remember Poison and Georgio attacked me from everywhere, especially on the DC Metro. Chanel #5 never did it for me either. Clininque Aromatics I love on some and can't stand on others. Claiborne Perfume from the 1980's fried my nose---I did NOT like this stuff. It ruined my love for Mondrian (not really) No present scents yet.
    I think Chanel No. 5 is one of those perfumes that people either love or hate, it all just depends on personal taste.
    Quite frankly, I love it, and I think the one thing that keeps me coming back is progression of the scent on me during the dry down. On me it is a bit floral, but it develops into something quite fresh with just the slightest hint of sweetness.

    The scents from Liz Claiborne were AWFUL though! Next to any overly sweet fragrances, Claiborne scents probably had (and still have) the most upchuck factor as far as I'm concerned. When I think of Claiborne scents, I think of that gawdawful tacky red triangle bottle that was just SO very representative of 80's. Just thinking of it now makes me cringe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemmie View Post
    I think it's much more visceral and instinctive than memory evoked. I think it's certain 'soft' notes in fragrances, and anything that smells aged or 'gone over' (like the reaction I had to my Mitsouko EDT - though thankfully not the EDP). I think anything that smells stale to me is a definite no-no, but 'stale' is very hard to quantify. I'm intrigued though to compare the notes within the fragrances that I have trouble with, because I know it's not just me. A perfume I sampled recently caused me to think 'ugh, sickly' and then my husband used exactly the same phrase when he sniffed it on me - so there is definitely a smell that classes as 'sickly' and I don't mean it smells like vomit. Nothing like that at all. It just seems to evoke that kind of description, for whatever reason.
    It sounds as though you have a highly sensitive ability to detect 'dangerous foods' (I'm still thinking in terms of a biological explanation for your reaction I'm afraid). Can you tell by sniffing it when food is going bad? Some people are better at it than others and many of the putrefaction smells are sweet or sickly.

    I must admit to having just giggled at a stray thought - if those Britney Spears frags are very sweet, does that mean Britney makes you nauseous? How about Paris Hilton? Sorry, sorry, could go on snigering like this all night but we're just back at Paris Hilton's CanCan again and that's getting to be an old joke now.

    I know Osmoz is often useful in finding out the notes in fragrances and I think Quarry or Shycat posted a list of useful resources on the Newbies board. I'm very interested to find out what you discover. There's every chance you'll get me sniffing things in department stores and muttering 'yep, she's right; sicky'. :-)
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    I guess i'm a lucky chap, i've never felt any sickness coming upon me when i smelled something out of a bottle.
    My sister though, she got a mild rash with the original ParisH fragrance for women, and that was her first time that ever happened with a scent as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemmie View Post
    I think you are probably right...aldehydes may be the problem. And thankfully, most of the frags I wear don't have aldehydes. What I'm going to do is go on a little perfume quest. When our directory is back, I'm going to look for perfumes with aldehydes and then have a sampling spree, and see what I can come up with. I might even be able to compile a personal 'black list' or something!
    There are hundreds of aldehydes and many women's fragrances (some men's too) would be worthless without them. They don't all smell like the ones in No.5 and Rive Gauche. Mitsouko for example, is built on an aldehyde known as C-14 and it contains massive quantities of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by bernat View Post
    I think I know what you mean by "sickly", but it doesn't always bother me. When I try and conjure the smell of musk in my head, it makes me feel sick. But a lot of fragrances that I actually like have it. Er, hopefully this makes sense...
    There are hundreds of musks (mostly synthetic today) and many of them smell vastly different from one another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wordbird View Post
    It sounds as though you have a highly sensitive ability to detect 'dangerous foods' (I'm still thinking in terms of a biological explanation for your reaction I'm afraid). Can you tell by sniffing it when food is going bad? Some people are better at it than others and many of the putrefaction smells are sweet or sickly.
    Oh god yes! Bad food triggers a severe response, and my family tend to bring things to me for the 'sniff test' rather than rely on their own ability to tell if something has had it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pluran View Post
    There are hundreds of aldehydes and many women's fragrances (some men's too) would be worthless without them. They don't all smell like the ones in No.5 and Rive Gauche. Mitsouko for example, is built on an aldehyde known as C-14 and it contains massive quantities of it.



    There are hundreds of musks (mostly synthetic today) and many of them smell vastly different from one another.
    This could explain my 'oh my god that's off' reaction to Mitsouko EDT. Even the EDP, though hugely better, had to dry down for quite a long time before I started thinking 'hey, this is gooood'...so if the aldehydes are the top notes, that would explain why Mitsouko wasn't working for me. Perhaps the EDT formulation holds onto the aldehydic qualities for longer than the EDP (I have no idea, I'm guessing wildly here). Maybe aldehydes, to me, are the equivalent of 'bad food' in a perfume.

    Re the musk thing: I was referring to Body Shop white musk, because that's really the only one I've had any acquaintance with as a specific musk-related fragrance, other than Ava Luxe Gardenia musk and other fragrances that have musk as an ingredient. I should have specified that when I said I can't wear it but like it on others. My daughter wears TBS White Musk beautifully, but on me it smells sickly (there goes that word again...).
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    You are Remy the rat!
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    Most of the fragrances where I used to work, modern ones mostly. One in particular was Mademoiselle Coco, oh and also Miss Dior Cherie. One of the girls I worked with would douse herself in one of these two, every time she worked. Goodness I wanted to vomit, or at the least go unconscious so I would not want to vomit. I, in turn would douse myself in Shalimar, which I have worn since I was around 6 years old (thanks Mama for the perfume in the Pretty bottle), which for some reason has always been a comfort scent to me. If I do dot feel well, Shalimar actually alleviates feelings of nausea (go figure).
    But, those two fragrances would make me just feel soooo ill, even when I pass someone who is wearing one of them I have a moment of queasiness.

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    I am now thinking the culprit may be bergamot. I'm wearing a spritz of jasmine de nuit (The Different Company) on my hand, and it has bergamot and that sickliness is there. I know it will wear off (very soon), which is a relief, because I do like this fragrance.
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    Clemmie, I'm like you. I feel nauseous and get headaches from my mum's favourite - Chanel No 5, Youth Dew, L'Air de Temps etc. They smell sickly and powdery to me. When I looked them up here they all had aldehydes listed as one of the top ingredients, so I'm avoiding that now. Sadly most of the guerlains have the same effect on me, although I'm in the process of retrying them.

    I'm incredibly sensitive to smell (ones other than fragrances I mean), and some days even car fumes as I walk down the street make me feel ill.

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