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    Default Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    The Scented Salamader reports on it here

    I don't like Unforgiveable (nor Milliseme Imperial for that matter), but a few things:

    - The 'Orpur' ingredients sounds slightly ridiculous - they expect me to believe that the bergamot in the top notes is naturally grown and harvested bergamot that went into the Unforgiveable Black fragrance. You have got to be kidding?
    - Is it me, or does the bottle look like the old Outrageous bottle has been frozen in carbonite like Han Solo in The Empire Strikes Back!?


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    Default Re: Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    Thanks for this, Mike. Unforgivable's the closest thing to a holy grail that I've got so I'll be watching for this most closely.
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    Default Re: Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    the orpur thing probably means its just gonna smell exactly like MI now instead of a crappier version

    and the han solo thing had me laughing!

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    Default Re: Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    it does look like han when hes frozen...puffy never has been known for his creativity...i mean he just used the same exact bottle with a differnt cap...just like his songs, keep borrowing and borrowing until it gets old...this time he is ripping his own stuff off...lol

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    Just what the hell is ORPUR anyway?

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    I really don't like the name of the fragrance: Unforgivable Black Men.

    They're a bunch of racists. I'll stick to Millesime Imperial.
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    Default Re: Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    Quote Originally Posted by somethinpositiv View Post
    I really don't like the name of the fragrance: Unforgivable Black Men.

    They're a bunch of racists. I'll stick to Millesime Imperial.
    lol...ha ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by somethinpositiv View Post
    I really don't like the name of the fragrance: Unforgivable Black Men.

    They're a bunch of racists. I'll stick to Millesime Imperial.
    Ah... c'mon... just admit it - you're an Imperialist!!!
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    Default Re: Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    considering the original Unforgivable is already in a black bottle this is a weird name. Can't wait for Unforgivable Double Black Man, Original Unforgivable, and Unforgivable Green Irish Man.
    Last edited by AZsmells; 12th March 2008 at 10:38 PM.
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    Default Re: Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    Quote Originally Posted by Azsmells View Post
    considering the original Unforgivable is already in a black bottle this is a weird name. Can't wait for Unforgivable Double Black Man, Original Unforgivable, and Unforgivable Green Irish Man.
    Or if you purchase it from Ebay - Unforgiveable Green Frich Men

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    Default Re: Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    Well, people hate Sean John for making Unforgivable, yet they don't hate Creed for copying many scents themselves. A lot of hypocrites these days. But I will judge it on how it smells.
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    I will judge it by the people it represents!!

    Last edited by somethinpositiv; 13th March 2008 at 12:15 AM.
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    I'm a bit interested to know of these many scents that Creed has copied, Reej

    do go on

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    I could say that OV and Himalaya are far from being original... But I do not hate Creed. I do not hate Unforgivable either. I just do not see the point of criticizing a smell before actually testing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish View Post
    I just do not see the point of criticizing a smell before actually testing it.
    Exactly. Bogus bottles and all, this should smell better than Multi-Plat.
    SO Black is the 3rd version of the same fragrance ?

    1st, I like Millesime Imperial, and I finally got a 4.0oz bottle I like ('06 batch {very very rich})
    I didn't like the OG unforgivable (too much orange soda)
    I liked Unforgivable multi-platinum (better Bergamot/citrus, and better florals)

    Hopefully, this new batch will throw in some rich MI-like basenotes

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    Default Re: Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    I wasn't criticizing the new fragrance, just the name. Also I own Unforgivable and like it as a fragrance which is different enough from MI to stand on its own.
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    Default Re: Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    This is the funniest thread I think I have read, lol.

    Clint Eastwood should come out with a fragrance called "Unforgiven".

    I think I would be too scared to smell it. "Are you going to smell it punk, are ya?"
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    Default Re: Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    Quote Originally Posted by heythatslife View Post
    Just what the hell is ORPUR anyway?
    The blog I mentioned above wrote,

    'The new fragrances are "extracted and re-created from the original Unforgivable" using top grade quality ingredients labeled "Orpur". As stated by the press officer, "Orpur ingredients are naturally grown and harvested to the strictest standards, causing the fragrance to have a concentrated and intense scent.".......'

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish View Post
    I could say that OV and Himalaya are far from being original... But I do not hate Creed. I do not hate Unforgivable either. I just do not see the point of criticizing a smell before actually testing it.
    That was my point exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regis Philbin View Post
    That was my point exactly.
    It could be said that OV and Himalaya are copies given their release dates, but in Creed's case the release date indicates when it was released to the general public. For instance, GIT was created for Cary Grant, who died in 1986. Basenotes lists GIT as being released in 1985, and it's likely Cary was wearing it long before then. While this may not necessarily be the case, it is possible Himalaya and OV could have existed prior Black XS or Mugler's Cologne.

    Then again, Oliver and Co. could have really liked them and wanted to make them for their own.


    But back to the matter- don't you love it that Puff Doodle is "remixing" his fragrance, now with Sicilian Lemon (gee, isn't that one of MI's topnotes?) and all of this ORPUR goodness. I bet it will make Multi Platinum smell watered down!

    Okay, too much sarcasm is making me hurt. I need sleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    - Is it me, or does the bottle look like the old Outrageous bottle has been frozen in carbonite like Han Solo in The Empire Strikes Back!?
    That's damn funny. It could based on Puff Daddy's jail cell too.

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    Wow. Already some sort of a remake.

    This frag is more about the name (Sean John) and is meant for a very, very specific market.
    Please avoid.

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    It seems like I'm the only one who liked Unforgivable lol.

    Has anybody actually smelt Unforgivable Black? If so, how does it compare to the original? It's on eBay already! I've done a search...I wonder why it's taking so long to come out in Australia.

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    Default Re: Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    Can't stop, won't stop, eh-eh eh-eh.

    I hope this isn't as butchered as that horrible "Biggie Duets" album. I still haven't forgiven the guy for that.

    PS: I hated Multi-Platinum
    Last edited by Hollandaze; 22nd April 2008 at 07:04 AM.

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    Default Re: Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    I stick to my Millesime Imperial...I got also Unforgivable but never wear it (not original).

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-Natra View Post
    I stick to my Millesime Imperial...I got also Unforgivable but never wear it (not original).
    Send it to me.. I'll do the lowly task of wearing Unforgivable so you can continue enjoying MI


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    I still can't tell if multi platinum is any different from the original. Hope this one is somewhat different so we can tell the difference.

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    Default Re: Unforgiveable Black by Sean John

    There should be a summer edition of his fragrance. "Sean John Unforgivable B*tchassness".

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesoul View Post
    Thanks for this, Mike. Unforgivable's the closest thing to a holy grail that I've got so I'll be watching for this most closely.
    Mike is bluesoul thanking you, or have you broken his heart?

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    I'm very curious about this... all the bright citrus, herbal elements, all against coconut rum, amber, and tonka lower in the pyramid? this could be really delicious. I mean it's not like Sean Combs himself is sitting with a dropper, perfume oils, and a fan of scent strips hahaha
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