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    Default Re: Fragrance Archival questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by VelvetDon25 View Post
    regarding the condensation... I'm a little confused... do you take your frag out of the fridge and let it stay in room temperature and then use the frag or is it ok to spray after taking it direcntly out of the fridge? I'm still quite new to the whole keeping frags in fridge/wine coolers. Thank you.
    Because my refrigerated frags are quite cold, I typically remove the bottles and let them warm up to room temperature, then I rotate them upstairs into my active wardrobe. I also let them warm up to cool room temperature if I'm going to spray some decants. The reason for letting them warm up for decants is that the ice-cold juice will cause condensation when I decant (by spraying into a vial or into a small funnel), meaning water gets into the sprayed frag by condensation. The decanted juice then looks cloudy because of water condensed in it. Letting the juice warm up first eliminates the problem.

    If I'm spraying something that's in the refrigerator directly on myself, and not rotating the juice into my active wardrobe, then I don't mind briefly pulling the frag out of the fridge, spraying, and then putting it back in the fridge. But I do try to work quickly, so that there is not a lot of condensation on the bottle. And, if there is a lot of humidity, I may let the bottles warm up in a sealed ziploc bag, which keeps them dry.

    Wine coolers at 55 degrees probably don't need this level of care with the cool juice. My refrigerator has gotten as low as 37 degrees, lately.
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    so I shouldn't be worried about spraying myself after taking it directly out of the fridge and putting it back? I plan to set my fridge to around 60~70 degrees. Since my mini fridge currently has no anti-frost I plan to keep the frag in their original box and then placing them in a zip-lock bag. Condensation will not build up inside the bottle of the original frag if the spray nozzle is secured correct? I should only be worried if its a splash/stopper frag?

    So technically the only thing I should be worried about regarding condensation is if I'm planning to spray the frag into a decant bottle and condensation possibly damaging the outside bottle's sticker/paper? My collection is fairly new with some niche and designer fragrances and nothing over 10 years old.

    Thanks again RP.
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    Default Re: Fragrance Archival questions.

    Yes, I think you've got it all straight. Don't worry about a quick spray and then putting it back. Especially with the cooling only being to 60-70 degrees. And if you had a frost-free fridge and lived far enough toward the poles, you wouldn't even have to worry about ziplocs. But I think with your humidity and a non-frost-free, you're probably smart to bag them. See how it works for you. You may be able to get away just bagging them when you remove them. I don't bother with ziplocs inside my frost-free - I just bag them when they warm up.

    Definitely let your splashes warm up before decanting, as you suggest. Like you say, you don't have to worry about condensation inside spray bottles.

    So far I've had no problems with refrigerating scents. As far as I can tell, the only scent which has suffered, was one that I didn't refrigerate over the summer (Neroli Sauvage). I could swear it's not as kick-ass on the topnotes as it used to be. I'm really wishing I had refrigerated it.
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    thank you so much RP. You really set my worries to rest about placing my frags into the fridge. The hot humid weather here in Taiwan is quite uncomfortable. Its a steady 32c/85 degrees in my room. So far I keep my frags in their original boxes and in a ziplock bag inside my last drawer which is close to the ground and then closed with the closet doors. The top and middle drawers I place my clothes in.

    I hope my clothes inside the closet won't add in extra warmth in the closet where I place the frags in as well in the 3rd/last drawer. Placed a thermometer in there and is still a steady 32c.

    Thanks again RP

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    @VevetDon25: The obsession begins. Welcome.

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    haha...

    It sure is Matt. I've been enjoying my sample of Fumerie Turque all day but will try my best to resist purchasing it until the new years is upon us. I'll just have the wine cooler as a early xmas gift lol. Thanks for the welcome buddy
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    Default Is there any benefit to keeping cologne in a fridge?

    Hey guys, new to the forum.

    Current collection is:

    D&G Light Blue for summer
    Pi by Givenchy for special occasion/romance
    Creed Green Irish Tweed for everyday.

    Thoughts?

    Anyway, I read somewhere (probably here) that colognes last longer if you keep them in a fridge. Is this true, or is there any benefit to keeping cologne in a fridge?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Is there any benefit to keeping cologne in a fridge?

    Many, many things will keep a lot longer if refrigerated. This includes fragrances, and that's the benefit.
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    Default Re: Is there any benefit to keeping cologne in a fridge?

    I agree with the refrigeration idea, however I don't believe that fragrant gems should be stored alongside your sodas and eggs. I'd advise getting a separate fridge for your fragrances so that you can set the temperature you want. If you can't get hold of a fridge, storing your opened perfumes in its box in a cool, dark place (like a closet), is the next best thing.

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    Heat and light are the worst things that affect the quality of fragrance, especially if the bottle is half empty. All fragrances will oxidise over time. Some types (such as colognes and those with a high citrus content) will go faster than others. Keeping them in the dark and cool will help a lot

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    Default Re: Is there any benefit to keeping cologne in a fridge?

    As David Ruskin says, however...

    people living in moderate climate zones (like Europe north of the Alps, have not needed extra cool storage facilities. Most of the well known waters produced in the last two centuries came from Grasse in southern France. It can get as hot there as in New York or Rome, and yet this didn't seem to have done much damage to perfumes. More important is the absence of light and an even temperature below maybe 25° to 30° Celsius. I own perfumes that are older than 40 years, and I am quite certain that they have seen neither refrigerators nor air conditioners. They are still good or acceptable.

    Fréderick Malle developed their own perfume cooler for shops. I do not know whether this is mainly a marketing gag or not.
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    Default Re: Is there any benefit to keeping cologne in a fridge?

    Well, up to now, I only kept my frags in dry and cool, yet not refrigerated environments, like shelves and cabinets with no direct exposure to heat and sunlight and it was more than all right, considering that I constantly use, stockpile and collect frags since 1997 and, even without any refrigeration, did not have ANY problems (in terms of deterioration, decrease in lasting power and of other qualities). Yet, if I had something like a wine cooler/wine refrigerator/refrigerated and/or air conditioned minibar, I would consider using it as a storage space for my frag wardrobe.
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    Hmm! all great Ideas, I will indeed do that for my vintage frags, though as for my Kouros,Azzaro and Rive Gauche I'd keep them in hands reach!
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    I keep mine on a shelf in our bedroom out of direct heat and sunlight. The heat in the room is fairly constant throughout the year (high teens to low 20s degrees C) as we have solid and very thick stone walls. I've kept frags that way for nearly 15 years, with my oldest frags being about 7-8 years old. I've never had a problem and those 7-8 year old ones smell the same as they did when I first bought them.

    DEFINITELY keep them out of direct sunlight. And, as narcus says, I think the most important thing after that is a constant temperature (within reason - I live in the UK so it rarely goes above high 20s degrees C outside in the sunlight) - I once kept a large part of my collection in a small fridge that was set to about 3-5 degrees C and during one summer we had a powercut in the day when no one was home. About 7 hours later I got home to find that pretty much all of those frags were now useless, with some of them verging on just smelling like lightly scented water. I lost some VERY good juices that day and I truly believe it was the sudden change from chilled to very warm that did it. Ever since then I've not put any in a fridge and they've been absolutely fine.

    I know a lot of people do use and recommend fridges, and I'm not saying don't use one, but I always tell the above story to let people know that there are potential problems with using them, even though I have not heard of anyone having experienced this same problem.
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    Default Re: Is there any benefit to keeping cologne in a fridge?

    Thanks narcus and great_badir, for sharing. That's what I have suspected all along... cold storage is not without its risks. I doubt if the big discounters keep their stock in a chilled warehouse.
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    Default Re: Is there any benefit to keeping cologne in a fridge?

    We use a fridge; since we stared doing that, I haven't had a single fragrance go "off".

    Fortunately power outages are really rare in our town -- maybe once per year, if that, and brief when they do occur. But if your area is prone to outages, that would be a serious consideration.

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    A dry cooler should do the trick. I'm not too sure about keeping them long term in a fridge. You might risk clogging your spray or altering the chemistry. I say treat them as you would with good wine.

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    I agree with heparfumerie in that perfumes should be stored in a similar environment as wine...a consistently cool, dark space. If you are tempted to refrigerate... keep in mind that self-defrosting refrigerators (most household refrigerators) will remove moisture and possibly accelerate oxidation and evaporation of your perfumes if kept in them for any long period of time. If you decide to do so, enclose each bottle in individually sealed bags to forestall premature deterioration.

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    Default Re: Is there any benefit to keeping cologne in a fridge?

    Good point. Our Kenmore compact fridge isn't self-defrosting. When I bought it I thought that could prove to be a nuisance, but now I'm glad of it.

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    Keep in mind that kitchen fridge is usually set on 4°C, while the wine fridge can be set somewhere between 10 and 14. I would definitely use the second range if I could choose. But I think the constant temperature of 16-18°C would do fine.
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    so far my stuff is fine just kept in the relative darkness, sometimes it gets so hot I move it to the vicinity of the airconditioner.

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    Default Re: Is there any benefit to keeping cologne in a fridge?

    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    As David Ruskin says, however...

    people living in moderate climate zones (like Europe north of the Alps, have not needed extra cool storage facilities. Most of the well known waters produced in the last two centuries came from Grasse in southern France. It can get as hot there as in New York or Rome, and yet this didn't seem to have done much damage to perfumes. More important is the absence of light and an even temperature below maybe 25° to 30° Celsius. I own perfumes that are older than 40 years, and I am quite certain that they have seen neither refrigerators nor air conditioners. They are still good or acceptable.

    Fréderick Malle developed their own perfume cooler for shops. I do not know whether this is mainly a marketing gag or not.
    So, in short terms... the temperature does not affect the quality of the perfumes. Am I right?

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    Default Re: Is there any benefit to keeping cologne in a fridge?

    Light is the greater enemy. Fragrances left on my dresser top, not indirect sunlight but still exposed to ambient light, deteriorated within about 2 years. I would avoid keeping fragrances at high temperatures as well.

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    Hi All,

    I have started storing perfumes in the refrigerator for the past 1 week along side other stuffs (Vegetables and other food stuff).
    I would like to know if it is harmful to store perfumes alongside food ?

    Cheers!!!!

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    I personally wouldn't do it

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    I wouldn't put fragrance in the fridge. It has to be stored in a cool dry place, the fridge is not dry and it is cold not cool.
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    Default Re: Storing perfumes in the refrigerator

    I'm no expert and won't pretend to be. I have seen stories by a couple of people in here who had stored frags in fridge and ran into a power failure wherein all their frags went flat with the temp change.

    See if others weigh in. I know Le Labo makes great show of keeping their stuff in a cooler until you buy it.
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    Default Re: Storing perfumes in the refrigerator

    Not the best idea IMO.

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    I would use a mini fridge for fragrances if I wanted to go that route. I'm happy keeping them in cool dark places like drawers and closets.
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    I refrigerate and have done so for many years without any problems...

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