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    I have a vintage Perfume bottle with more than half of the perfume is still inside. However, the glass stopper is stuck and I can't open the glass stopper.

    Is there anyway to open the glass stopper?
    I have tried placing the cap and top of the bottle in hot water but it does not work. Both of them are probably of the same material so both expand in hot water.

    Any idea besides this. Placing it in hot water will destroy this vintage Penhaligon's.

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    Default Re: How to open stuck glass stopper from the perfume bottle?

    There was a thread about this earlier, and the hot water worked for someone else. I can't think of anything, but if worse comes to worse, just get a drill, drill a little hole in the bottom, and let it leak out into an atomsier. That way, you still have a nice bottle, and the fragrance itself

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    Default Re: How to open stuck glass stopper from the perfume bottle?

    Try getting one of those can-of-air dusters from an office or computer supply store. Then turn it upside down and spray the stopper. Try to avoid spraying the neck of the bottle. The air/chemical coming out of the spray-can will be extremely cold and should contract (shrink) the stopper enough to break the flacon's grip.

    When you spray a can-of-air upside-down as described above, some of the chemical propellant will condense and drip from the tube or nozzle. You don't want this getting into your juice so if possible, try to wrap some type of thin cloth or a damp paper towl around the stopper/flacon-opening (but still leaving most of the stopper exposed) so that it will soak up any chemical dripping from the spray-can. Or, just be sure to hold the can/spray-tube far enough away that it can't drip onto the stopper or top of the flacon but not far enough away that you are spraying the stopper AND the neck of the flacon. You only want the stopper to get cold and contract, not the flacon opening.

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    You could also just try applying cold to the stopper by using ice wrapped in something that won't let water leak onto the stopper and possible drip into the juice. The point is, you need to make the stopper sufficiently cold without making the neck or the rest of the flacon cold.

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    <edit> Upon further thought, cooling the stopper AND the neck of the flacon would be desirable. Both pieces of glass (stopper & flacon neck) should contract away from each other. This then, gives you a third option (besides the two listed above): just put the bottle in the fridge for an hour or two. However, this will also cool the juice which will then warm back up when you remove it from the fridge. Personally, I would rather not subject the juice to that kind of temperature fluctuation but if the fridge is the most practical for you, once probably won't damage the juice.
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    Default Re: How to open stuck glass stopper from the perfume bottle?

    Oh man, now I broke the top but the stopper is still stuck.
    Is there still anyway to open the bottle?
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    Default Re: How to open stuck glass stopper from the perfume bottle?

    The top of the stopper broke off or part of the flacon neck broke?

    If the stopper broke, I guess you'll have to find something to glue to the remaining piece so that you'll have something to pull on. The cold technique(s) above still applies.

    But since the stopper or flacon is now broken, you're going to need to transfer the juice to another container (atomizer?), so it may be just as well to put the whole bottle in the fridge for a few hours or overnight, then just up-end the bottle over a bowl of some sort and hope the stopper and juice comes out. Then pour the juice into another atomizer or other suitable container.

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    man this used to always happen with my roors.

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    Too bad, but even someone with considerable experience in freeing glass stoppers may have been unable to open this bottle. This is a well known problem with glass stoppers.

    At this point, as was suggested, your best option may be to drill a hole in the bottle. It depends on how badly you want to get to this vintage juice. If you want to drill a hole you will want to experiment on expendable bottles first or go to a glass worker who has done this before. You will need not a drill bit for wood or metal but an abrasive drill intended for use on glass.
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    Default Re: How to open stuck glass stopper from the perfume bottle?

    Here's another idea but only practical if you happen to have close, easy access to laboratory equipment.

    Break the bottle with a hammer into a clean container of some sort, pick out all the large pieces of glass (carefully!), and then strain the juice into an atomizer through a laboratory-grade inert paper filter. I wouldn't use a coffee or tea filter as these may contain chemicals (glues, binders, etc.) that could react with liquids such as alcohol or other chemicals in the perfume and ruin it.

    Since glass doesn't float, you may be able to just pour off the liquid into an atomizer without using any kind of filter.

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    Default Re: How to open stuck glass stopper from the perfume bottle?

    I guess the only way is ti break it.
    I need to find filter paper and clean glass funne with empty atomizer.

    Thank you very much for the help

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    Hello fellow Singaporean, my heart goes out to you. If you ever have to do this again, try a hair dryer. Aim the stream of hot air at where the stopper is stuck, away from the body of the bottle. This usually causes the gummed up juice to liquify and the stopper then can be eased out.

    For your present situation, I'd use a cutter along a metal rule on the glass neck below the stopper, cutting a groove all around it. Then I'd clamp the bottle and hit the top (above the groove) off with a metal hammer. The top and bottom will come apart, splitting along the groove. I'd definitely filter the juice. (Ask anybody in a science lab to get you some filter paper.)

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    i would add to the above...freeze it in the fridge and then blow it with a hot blower...sudden contraction should jolt away the stopper...

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    Adding to an old thread: I just repaired a broken Arpege stopper with epoxy and successfully removed the frozen stopper. I broke it using metal pliers and a twisting motion, although I had chilled the stopper and warmed the bottle, it broke clean off. Rubber-coated pliers and a direct, up and out motion is best.

    Here's what worked to fix it:

    I first roughed up the edges of the two pieces with a diamond nail file, and using 30 minute work-time epoxy, the kind you mix, glued the pieces together carefully, being careful to not get glue on anything but the stopper pieces.

    After an hour or so, I stretched two thick rubber bands, crisscrossed at 90 degree angles, around the stopper and bottle to hold the pieces fast. Then, I waited 24 hours.

    Today, I put the bottle in a dish of warm (not hot) water, and placed an ice pack on top of the stopper, then waited a few minutes.

    Next, I gripped the stopper in a pair of rubber/plastic-coated, heavy-duty, squeeze-handled clamps--a tool I didn't know I had earlier, before I broke the stopper--and pulled up and out gently, with no twisting motion. It pulled right out, and in one piece!

    Epoxy works! Patience to not break the stopper in the first place would probably work better!

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    Here is step by step directions from Sorcery of Scent's blog: http://sorceryofscent.blogspot.com/2...e-stopper.html Very important thing he mentions is, that you should twist the stopper in a clockwise direction only.
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    Default Re: How to open stuck glass stopper from the perfume bottle?

    I have had several vintage perfume bottles that would not open. I tried every method described online and nothing worked. I tapped, warmed, chilled, twisted, and did everything I could, and in two cases, the precious crystal stopper broke off, sealing the perfume into the bottle for ever. This week I purchased a very old bottle of Richard Hudnut 'Three Flowers', and the seller had told me that the stopper was completely frozen. I bought it anyway!! My brilliant husband has finally devised a way to remove stubborn frozen stoppers. Here's what he did. He applied a small amount of mineral spirits around the frozen stopper, and then set the bottle for a short time near a small heater. After a few taps, the frozen stopper came loose and the precious scent was released. I was thrilled because it is a 2 oz. bottle and was almost full!!

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    The eternal stoppers..... agh.

    So far the ones that have budged for me have only done so after extreme patience. The stopper is jammed there for a few reasons and needs addressing in the order in which the problem occurred.

    Firstly the perfume around it has solidified and behaved eventually as a rather effective glue. The first thing that needs to happen is that the 'glue' needs to have a solvent applied that will not damage the perfume. High proof alcohol or perfumers alcohol applied repeatedly around the neck over a period of at least a week on a daily basis as often as it evaporates away. A puddle around it is better and an alcohol moistened cloth or tissue helps.

    Often this does the trick on it's own but if not, then the heat treatment is next but it must be specific to the area and not all over. A direct-able hairdryer is good. Hot water often gets to the stopper as well and also there is a danger of water getting in if successful.

    I do still have a Zibeline that has never, ever yielded to any of my attentions.... it remains firmly jammed.

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    Default Re: How to open stuck glass stopper from the perfume bottle?

    If this happened to me, it would drive me berserk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultranova3 View Post
    I have a vintage Perfume bottle with more than half of the perfume is still inside. However, the glass stopper is stuck and I can't open the glass stopper.

    Is there anyway to open the glass stopper?
    I have tried placing the cap and top of the bottle in hot water but it does not work. Both of them are probably of the same material so both expand in hot water.

    Any idea besides this. Placing it in hot water will destroy this vintage Penhaligon's.
    I have successfully used this method a number of times, both with vintage and newly frozen ground glass stoppers:
    1. upend the bottle in a similar sized glass or cup
    2. fill to just above the neck of the bottle with ethyl/perfumer's alcohol and cover with cling wrap so the alcohol doesn't evaporate
    3. let sit for a day or two
    4. using a wooden spoon, gently tap the narrow part of the stopper on the sides facing and away from you, then on both sides of the neck of the bottle at 90 degrees from where you tapped the stopper (i.e. tap the stopper at 'north' and 'south' and the bottle neck at 'east' and 'west'. Do this several times.
    5. the stopper should be easily removed.
    6. if not, let soak for a few more days and repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roan View Post
    I have successfully used this method a number of times, both with vintage and newly frozen ground glass stoppers:
    1. upend the bottle in a similar sized glass or cup
    2. fill to just above the neck of the bottle with ethyl/perfumer's alcohol and cover with cling wrap so the alcohol doesn't evaporate
    3. let sit for a day or two
    4. using a wooden spoon, gently tap the narrow part of the stopper on the sides facing and away from you, then on both sides of the neck of the bottle at 90 degrees from where you tapped the stopper (i.e. tap the stopper at 'north' and 'south' and the bottle neck at 'east' and 'west'. Do this several times.
    5. the stopper should be easily removed.
    6. if not, let soak for a few more days and repeat.
    This method is very effective. Another way is if you can get hold of an ultrasonic cleaner (see your local jeweler), that seems to do the trick very well, too. The sound waves will dislodge the hardened particles that act like glue. Submerge the bottle only up to the neck to where it appears to be stuck, otherwise the cleaning solution will get into the perfume. Also, make sure there are no pre-existing breaks or cracks on your perfume bottle because the ultrasonic will break your bottle if there are. This method is all or nothing, so be very, very, very careful.
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    Default Re: How to open stuck glass stopper from the perfume bottle?

    Sorry for bumping this thread but I need help! I have a vintage splash bottle of Penhaligons Hammam Bouquet and the glass stopper it stuck. The top of the stopper is made of glass while the bottom part of it is made of a plastic/rubber material. I had some trouble opening it when I first got it but when I put it in the fridge for 15 minutes, I was able to get it open. Unfortunately I was dumb enough to take it with me on a trip and when i got home again the stopper was stuck yet again...
    The fridge-trick doesn't work anymore and I have also tried heating the stopper with a hair dryer but with no result. Can anyone here provide me with some advice or is there any professionals that one can turn to?

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    Hello Fellow Perfumista's <3

    I just got my first bottle of vintage perfume today ! ( Perfume JOY/Jean Patou/ circa :1970's)

    How I finally got it open :

    1. First i took a needle to loosen the gold thread
    2. the thread eventually broke from pulling the thread loose
    3. i took a needle and got the wax paper (?) off that help seal it
    4. i ran the blow dryer a few times a few seconds
    5. i put it in the freezer 20 minutes
    6. i put a cotton string soaked in rum around the glass stopper for a few minutes
    7. lastly i ran it under hot water a few seconds
    8. holding with a soft washcloth & gently turning clockwise....IT FINALLY OPENED !!!!!!!!

    It took about a 1/2 hope to do all of this !

    It smells lovely....i haven't smelled or owned a bottle of Joy since the last bottle i had (the cilinder ribbed bottle ) in 1975 !

    So nice to have joined this forum !!!

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    Default Re: How to open stuck glass stopper from the perfume bottle?

    Welcome to basenotes and congratulaions!

    THREAD! What a good idea! I just sat with a different bottle constantly replacing a pipetted drop of Everclear while I restlessly tapped it on the edge of my table about 100 times. It worked eventually. I also recently got a bottle of very vintage Joy--mine doesn't smell like anything so I suppose it could be degraded (but more likely fake/diluted to look full.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shycat View Post
    Welcome to basenotes and congratulaions!

    THREAD! What a good idea! I just sat with a different bottle constantly replacing a pipetted drop of Everclear while I restlessly tapped it on the edge of my table about 100 times. It worked eventually. I also recently got a bottle of very vintage Joy--mine doesn't smell like anything so I suppose it could be degraded (but more likely fake/diluted to look full.)
    Thank you Shycat !

    The THREAD was made from a piece of cotton ball...i just twisted it small enough to fit around the glass stopper (pushing it with the needle)
    I guess the alcohol from the RUM (40%) did the trick ?

    I'm also waiting for( another) bottle to arrive of Vintage Joy (circa :1960's ) !!!!!
    But it doesn't have a glass stopper. It has a Gold metal Cap....(screw off ?)
    I can't wait...

    Sorry your Joy was a dud...can't you return it ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose Petal View Post
    Thank you Shycat !

    The THREAD was made from a piece of cotton ball...i just twisted it small enough to fit around the glass stopper (pushing it with the needle)
    I guess the alcohol from the RUM (40%) did the trick ?

    I'm also waiting for( another) bottle to arrive of Vintage Joy (circa :1960's ) !!!!!
    But it doesn't have a glass stopper. It has a Gold metal Cap....(screw off ?)
    I can't wait...

    Sorry your Joy was a dud...can't you return it ???
    Eh, maybe. But it was only 22 bucks so realistically I'm lazier than frugal. This just makes me want to try again.

    So the one with the gold cap--will that be Eau de Joy (the edt?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shycat View Post
    Eh, maybe. But it was only 22 bucks so realistically I'm lazier than frugal. This just makes me want to try again.

    So the one with the gold cap--will that be Eau de Joy (the edt?)
    Yes...this is what it said :

    Vintage RARE 1960s !! Jean Patou EAU DE JOY 1 oz 30 ml Eau de Parfum OLD FORMULA

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    Sigh. My sister is always trying to get me to try some food she thinks is delicious. I tell her, no! The last thing I need is something else I think tastes great--something else to resist. I know you aren't trying to get me to try Joy--you don't have to try! I just automatically want everything like some lunatic lemming. I've got to let Joy be that unknown delight. I can't chase any more vintage fragrances--I already chase three. That's got to be my limit. (she said sincerely, all the while doubting herself.)

    Which in NO WAY stops me from being very interested in what you think of Joy versus Eau de Joy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shycat View Post
    Sigh. My sister is always trying to get me to try some food she thinks is delicious. I tell her, no! The last thing I need is something else I think tastes great--something else to resist. I know you aren't trying to get me to try Joy--you don't have to try! I just automatically want everything like some lunatic lemming. I've got to let Joy be that unknown delight. I can't chase any more vintage fragrances--I already chase three. That's got to be my limit. (she said sincerely, all the while doubting herself.)

    Which in NO WAY stops me from being very interested in what you think of Joy versus Eau de Joy.
    Well dear Shycat.......so far i bought 3 vintage perfumes....(2 Joy) (1 Flora Danica), and i was so excited....but now disappointed...they smelled nothing like I remembered....unless someone can convince me otherwise...i will not try vintage anymore...i will just have to let the past go....i feel like such a little mouse compared to all of you Lions out there...so experienced & knowledgeable...i thought i was a perfume freak, until i came here....it is overwhelming !!! There are so many i never heard of before that i am longing to try now.....someday i will put my little Wardrobe together for you to see...then you'll know how far behind i am....

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    Default Re: How to open stuck glass stopper from the perfume bottle?

    Vintage is always a gamble. For some of us *cough cough* that's half the fun. Like pulling the lever on a slot machine. There is always the question of storage [ETA--that's one reason I look for vintage with a box, not because I collect boxes, because it was morely likely stored in the box. A vintage partial tester without box is one thing I do avoid--despite my having one that HAS been well cared for, they aren't usually worth pursuing. ] heat/light exposure, morphing of natural floral notes, degradation of natural citrus notes is a given, also the extra wildcard of: did some woman know her bottle was empty and refill it with something else for display. And that's just the innocent possibilities. I have the experience to call fraud instantly and with force--I've used it twice and gotten refunds.

    My main obsession is with vintage Chanel No. 22, but I've got L'Heure Bleue, Nahema that mean a lot to me. They simply are what they are.

    You won't suffer in the modern world of perfume if you let go of the past. I have to say I haven't hit too many department store/designer fragrances that float my boat but there are some I'm in the process of exploring. There are other lovely indie things to be smelled that are being created even as we speak--type. They are not in the style of vintage Guerlain or vintage Chanel, I grant you, but they are lovely in a new way. In their own way.

    The base notes are synthetics, and man oh man those synthetics have to be handled, balanced, and rounded with a meticulous touch to pass muster.

    Ramble, ramble, ramble. Rant, rant, rant. LOL!
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