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    Quote Originally Posted by the_good_life View Post
    Look out for the follow-up volume: Perfume - The Gossip
    While I was only half-serious, I think this supports my hypothesis that Olivier Creed dreamt up the fragrance house of Creed on a stoned night in the Sixties .
    Ha! Bourdon has never claimed credit for GIT, and all this intertwined perfume mystery is ridiculous. All I know is GIT is one of the best things I have smelled in my life, its part of the Creed line, its a true 5 star fragrance in my book, and I will always have a 4 Oz. bottle and shower gel to savour its intoxicatingly beautiful aroma.
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    Default Perfume the Guide: your thoughts and review

    There's already a long thread about the preview of this book's release. I think it's in its 8th page as I write this, and members are energetically posting their initial thoughts since the book is now available.

    In the interests of breaking up such a long thread (and very extended idea) I thought I'd start a new thread to see if I could encourage any more reviews out of members.

    How about your thoughts on the book? You've looked it over, time to read and tell.
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    Of course Turin and Sanchez judge the houses, sometimes negatively; case in point, Caron:
    p.248: "Caron has the reformulation bug bad...." LT
    p.332: "Can't Fraysse instead go ruin some perfumes that weren't interesting in the first place?" TS
    And sometimes positively, as in his continuous praise for all things Estee Lauder.
    The book is good, and in fact it's hugely entertaining, and that truly is something. But it, perhaps too often, veers towards the flippant more often than it needs to. A more balanced mix of facts, release dates, manufacturers, etc. and opinions would have helped it fit more comfortably on my reference shelf between The Penguin Guide to Classical CDs and Pauline Kael's I Lost It at the Movies. In the meantime, I'm having a good time reading it.
    As far as Lorenzo Villoresi goes, along with Mona di Orio for that matter, I get the feeling that Turin sees them as hobbyists that can't play their "grand and traditional perfumery roles" very well.
    I must admit that I find his balanced response to the numerous Creed offerings to be quite refreshing.
    Turin has said that Italians tend to often ruin things with too much good taste. Which reminds me of an episode of my life in the late 90's. I ran a well known Italian fashion house's US operations. The owner of the company loved lace, when we would visit her house in Cortina we would always have a good laugh - she loved lace so much that she covered everything in it. In Italian, the word for lace is pizzo; the knick name for the house instantly became Pizzo Hut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post

    Turin has said that Italians tend to often ruin things with too much good taste. Which reminds me of an episode of my life in the late 90's. I ran a well known Italian fashion house's US operations. The owner of the company loved lace, when we would visit her house in Cortina we would alway have a good laugh as she loved lace so much that she covered everything in it. In Italian, the word for lace is pizzo; the knick name for her house became the Pizzo Hut.

    Very interesting Ruggles! I had a good time reading this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    There's already a long thread about the preview of this book's release. I think it's in its 8th page as I write this, and members are energetically posting their initial thoughts since the book is now available.

    In the interests of breaking up such a long thread (and very extended idea) I thought I'd start a new thread to see if I could encourage any more reviews out of members.

    How about your thoughts on the book? You've looked it over, time to read and tell.
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    "...a long thread about the preview of this book's release. I think it's in its 8th page..." Wow! But where is it, please? I do not seem to be able to find it.
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    New Luca Turin book - your thoughts? Here are mine. ( 1 2)


    "...a long thread about the preview of this book's release. I think it's in its 8th page..." Wow! But where is it, please? I do not seem to be able to find it.
    He must mean http://community.basenotes.net/showthread.php?t=207941
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCtbone View Post
    One-star reviews are reserved for those fragrances we felt were not only incompetent but actually insulting.
    I have to wait for my book, and cannot really comment yet. But maybe you will accept a few questions on the rating system, NYCtbone. I picked up the following star definitions from a preview of your book, and please correct me if these should be wrong:

    1- so vile they insult the smeller
    2- disappointing
    3- solid, yet uninspiring
    4- excellent
    5- masterpiece

    As I consider 'uninspiring' as something negative, it seems that you created three negative categories. Unfortunately, that only leaves two for good perfumes: 'excellent' or 'masterpiece'. My personal experience has been that people perceive a majority of fragrances as better than uninspiring. I do too, and yet I couldn't call a lot of these 'excellent' or better. So, where is the place for simply good fragrances, things we consider worth buying for our own pleasure or as gifts?

    As a European I can do well without any rating system. Luca's reviews in the French Guide of 1992 say so much in a short paragraph even today! No stars were needed then. I also enjoy reading his Duftnotes (Scent Notes) column tremendously, and am grateful for the fragrances selected for discussion there (no stars). Not wanting to speculate any longer, I would appreciate if you could kindly tell us who had the idea of a categorical rating? I am afraid stars will be exploited commercially in a long period to come, and not all people will be happy about that. Stars might even be in the way when people want to discuss perfume as a form of art seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azsmells View Post
    I still need to get this book. Please tell me he reviewed Kouros.
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    I have to wait for my book, and cannot really comment yet. But maybe you will accept a few questions on the rating system, NYCtbone. I picked up the following star definitions from a preview of your book, and please correct me if these should be wrong:

    1- so vile they insult the smeller
    2- disappointing
    3- solid, yet uninspiring
    4- excellent
    5- masterpiece

    As I consider 'uninspiring' as something negative, it seems that you created three negative categories. Unfortunately, that only leaves two for good perfumes: 'excellent' or 'masterpiece'. My personal experience has been that people perceive a majority of fragrances as better than uninspiring. I do too, and yet I couldn't call a lot of these 'excellent' or better. So, where is the place for simply good fragrances, things we consider worth buying for our own pleasure or as gifts? ..
    I'll clarify some of it.

    The ratings are as follows:

    ***** Masterpiece
    **** Recommended
    *** Adequate
    ** Disappointing
    * Awful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    But it, perhaps too often, veers towards the flippant more often than it needs to. A more balanced mix of facts, release dates, manufacturers, etc. and opinions would have helped it fit more comfortably on my reference shelf between The Penguin Guide to Classical CDs and Pauline Kael's I Lost It at the Movies. In the meantime, I'm having a good time reading it.
    Ruggles - seems to me that, given time and space constraints, the general strategy was to include as much useful information as feasible, while devoting serious attention (along reference book lines) to serious fragrances, and being flippant where flippant was called for. I doubt that the typical reader of this book is longing to know anything more about Paris Hilton.

    No one admires Pauline Kael more than I do, but if there was ever a critic who was notoriously given to flippant dismissals of films for which she had no use, it was she - though maybe less so in I Lost It. . .than later in her career. (Though now that you mention it, Perfumes seems more along the lines of 5001 Nights at the Movies.) For its part The Penguin Guide has always has serious music lovers' knickers in a twist for its own idiosyncrasies - e.g. its adulation of all things Karajan.
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    Narcus, I think a lot of your questions will be cleared up if you read the actual book, but let me briefly explain the rating system.

    Per the book (not Allure):
    5 - masterpiece
    4 - recommended
    3 - adequate
    2 - disappointing
    1 - awful

    Here is the same information in a longwinded way: we urge everyone interested in the art of perfume to smell the 5-stars as landmark achievements in various genres; we highly recommend people smell the 4-stars in the styles they like; we find the 3-stars perfectly fine, though they contribute nothing new or extraordinary to the art (i.e., to paraphrase Abraham Lincoln, if you like that sort of thing, you'll like that sort of thing); we consider the 2-stars to have missed their aesthetic aims; and we fault the 1-star scents as bad beyond mere failure—sometimes because they achieved their nefarious aims all too well. So your characterization of 3 stars as a negative rating is incorrect. These are the "simply good" fragrances you ask about.

    A guide of under 300 fragrances with no ratings, as was Luca's guide in French, is enjoyable to read but difficult to scale up usefully. Among other reasons, sometimes people enthralled with LT's poetic description failed to understand he thought a scent was vile.

    I am not sure what being European has to do with the need for a rating system; LT is, as everyone knows, as European as it gets, and he proposed ratings from the start. We both appreciate star ratings for restaurants, movies and music, and we wanted to do the same for perfume.

    We hope that, for instance, people shopping for a new scent for Mother's Day will use the 5- and 4-star reviews as a starting point. Someone with more time may spread the search to the 3-stars, or someone who realizes her taste is in exact opposition to ours may gravitate to the one-stars and mark up her margins with cheerful vitriol. At any rate, we've saved them time.

    Naturally, if you have all the time in the world and have been reading about perfume for years, you may not need the ratings for guidance and may prefer to read for enjoyment or another point of view. We're thrilled if so. Carry on!

    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    I have to wait for my book, and cannot really comment yet. But maybe you will accept a few questions on the rating system, NYCtbone. I picked up the following star definitions from a preview of your book, and please correct me if these should be wrong:

    1- so vile they insult the smeller
    2- disappointing
    3- solid, yet uninspiring
    4- excellent
    5- masterpiece

    As I consider 'uninspiring' as something negative, it seems that you created three negative categories. Unfortunately, that only leaves two for good perfumes: 'excellent' or 'masterpiece'. My personal experience has been that people perceive a majority of fragrances as better than uninspiring. I do too, and yet I couldn't call a lot of these 'excellent' or better. So, where is the place for simply good fragrances, things we consider worth buying for our own pleasure or as gifts?

    As a European I can do well without any rating system. Luca's reviews in the French Guide of 1992 say so much in a short paragraph even today! No stars were needed then. I also enjoy reading his Duftnotes (Scent Notes) column tremendously, and am grateful for the fragrances selected for discussion there (no stars). Not wanting to speculate any longer, I would appreciate if you could kindly tell us who had the idea of a categorical rating? I am afraid stars will be exploited commercially in a long period to come, and not all people will be happy about that. Stars might even be in the way when people want to discuss perfume as a form of art seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    As a European I can do well without any rating system.
    Tell that to Michelin, whom one might hold largely responsible for the popularity of star ratings.
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    All guidebooks with reviews have opinions - and there will be disagreement in proportion to the strength of the opinion. For instance, the Tabac Blond that Luca Turin loves has changed and went from 5 stars to one. He killed it in the book, but despite that it does not mean that others will not like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Creek View Post
    For its part The Penguin Guide has always has serious music lovers' knickers in a twist for its own idiosyncrasies - e.g. its adulation of all things Karajan.
    And what's wrong with Karajan????
    Not including the release date of each fragrance within its respective review is, IMHO, a shortcoming. But what do I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    And what's wrong with Karajan????
    Not including the release date of each fragrance within its respective review is, IMHO, a shortcoming. But what do I know.
    By about the seventh Beethoven cycle or so, the magic was wearing a little thin?

    Release dates are a good idea, for historical context - some of the entries do contain them.
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    I wouldn't be asking this if the book we out yet in Canada, as I'm eager to take a look at it and I'd just go check it out in the store, but are the Nasomatto covered?

    And, why no Montales? Are they not popular enough, not deemed interesting enough, or is it just a fluke oversight? Or is the number of scents you wanted to cover limited and therefore you only covered those that interested you the most, or that you found most relevant to the fragrance fanatic community?

    I was basically going to order it online until I heard there were no Montale. Now I want to look at it first, though I imagine there's enough in there to make it worth while. That's a real disappointment for me - praise or rants, I love to read informed opinions about them. There's been alot of good back and forth about the line here which I've found really interesting.
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    I enjoy Mr. Turin's and Ms. Sanchez's approach in the book. Suggesting that perhaps we shouldn't take scents so seriously. But, as someone new to fragrances, it seems more of a guide to the fragrance aisle at Neiman Marcus or Saks and somewhat deflates that pretension. In its way, it makes the fragrance counter much more approachable. (Not counting the SAs.)

    I would have liked (in fact expected) more of a guide - here's how we approach a frag and here's how you can, too; more history; and more perspective.

    I appreciate that they appear to have been honest about their feelings and, if nothing else, it has shown me that fragrance is both deeply personal, sometimes speculative, and often contentious.

    At least we have such a wonderful group of products to choose from. And I'm glad they didn't cover my favorite houses.

    Nicely done and a big thank you to both of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    And what's wrong with Karajan????
    Not including the release date of each fragrance within its respective review is, IMHO, a shortcoming. But what do I know.
    I was thinking that, too, but considering fragrances are regularly, secretly, reformulated, I was wondering if that really meant anything. Though I would like to see it anyway.
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    I've read through it now and have to admit that it is a considerable volume of reviews and information about fragrances. Impressive! For most of the rviews I am in agreement with the direction of the opinions, but some I strongly disagree with. I'm sure all basenoters will find these occasional conflicts with their opinions - opinions of quality are somewhat subjective anyway. It is very obvious that both Turin and Sanchez have their special preferences and disappointments and feel free to offer their opinions in their book.

    I think that emotion and bias plays too big a role in most of the reviews - both those done by Turin and Sanchez, but for different emotional reasons. Generally, fragrances that have historical importance and are from Guerlain, Chanel, Givenchy, Dior or any other old french house get an extra star for who they are from Luca. Also, it seems that the emoltional response that Turin has towards mistakes of what could have been have an extra star deleted for the crime of failing to achieve potential. Add a star if the fragrance is a historical icon irregardless of its quality of scent. Another quirk seems to be if the frag has an ingredient stated in its title and the formula is not all about that ingredient (rose, vetiver, iris, etc) he often calls it "not rose" or "not vetiver" and then deducts another star for violatintg a truth in labelling unwritten rule that seems to exist. Both seem to give extra high marks to perfumers and fragrance houses they know personally - probably a normal bias that anyone would have.

    For the most part I agree with the direction of the reviews and I know we all will find this to be an incredible resource of new information about the fragrances that are here today.
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    I have paged through The Guide at the bookstore, and I was immensely entertained. How does it compare to Michael Edwards' book?

    By the way, NowSmellThis has an interview with them today.

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    [QUOTE=GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR;1203349]I wouldn't be asking this if the book we out yet in Canada, as I'm eager to take a look at it and I'd just go check it out in the store, but are the Nasomatto covered?

    And, why no Montales? QUOTE]


    The Nasomattos arrived late (next edition). Montale refused to send us fragrances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCtbone View Post
    Narcus, I think a lot of your questions will be cleared up if you read the actual book, but let me briefly explain the rating system.

    Per the book (not Allure):
    5 - masterpiece
    4 - recommended
    3 - adequate
    2 - disappointing
    1 - awful

    Here is the same information in a longwinded way: we urge everyone interested in the art of perfume to smell the 5-stars as landmark achievements in various genres; we highly recommend people smell the 4-stars in the styles they like; we find the 3-stars perfectly fine, though they contribute nothing new or extraordinary to the art (i.e., to paraphrase Abraham Lincoln, if you like that sort of thing, you'll like that sort of thing); we consider the 2-stars to have missed their aesthetic aims; and we fault the 1-star scents as bad beyond mere failure—sometimes because they achieved their nefarious aims all too well. So your characterization of 3 stars as a negative rating is incorrect. These are the "simply good" fragrances you ask about.

    A guide of under 300 fragrances with no ratings, as was Luca's guide in French, is enjoyable to read but difficult to scale up usefully. Among other reasons, sometimes people enthralled with LT's poetic description failed to understand he thought a scent was vile.

    I am not sure what being European has to do with the need for a rating system; LT is, as everyone knows, as European as it gets, and he proposed ratings from the start. We both appreciate star ratings for restaurants, movies and music, and we wanted to do the same for perfume.

    We hope that, for instance, people shopping for a new scent for Mother's Day will use the 5- and 4-star reviews as a starting point. Someone with more time may spread the search to the 3-stars, or someone who realizes her taste is in exact opposition to ours may gravitate to the one-stars and mark up her margins with cheerful vitriol. At any rate, we've saved them time.

    Naturally, if you have all the time in the world and have been reading about perfume for years, you may not need the ratings for guidance and may prefer to read for enjoyment or another point of view. We're thrilled if so. Carry on!
    Thank you for taking the time to give us such a detailed reply. That certainly helped. I had obviously been badly informed and should base my thoughts on the original, not previews of it. I like the key interpretation of 1-5 much better than what I had seen first (less negative, a heavy stone off my chest). And I really love the ‘longwinded’ interpretation of it!

    I tried to take a shortcut by saying: as a European I need no rating system. I should have added"...for perfume", sorry. The North American market is so much bigger, that’s probably why ratings are more popular or important there. Europe has many different small markets and societies with different habits concerning food, drinks, and smells. When booking hotels or looking for restaurants in a foreign city, I also appreciate knowing their ratings, of course. The same holds true if I want to buy a camera, new tires or video equipment. But in all these cases I have a good idea what those ratings are based upon: measurable qualities. On the other hand, I would not gain much if I had a list of Beethoven and Mozart Symphonies rated from 1 to x, or if I owned a book that listed ‘best’ interpretations of these symphonies on CD. Reason: There are zero or too few essential qualities in music, paintings, etc. that we can measure and compare. All we can determine is their popularity at any point in time, or estimate their monetary value by virtue of Sotheby's.

    Taking my time to read well considered reviews or colorful perfume descriptions by authors who are dedicated to the subject and whom I trust - that is indeed a pleasure I will never cease to enjoy.
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    Hey Luca- Why no review of the JAR's? Also, you reviewed other YSL frag's but why not Yvresse (although there was at least one mention of it in the book)? Surely you could get a sample of that.

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    I've been thoroughly enjoying my copy all weekend. I especially enjoying reading passages like this...

    “A good cologne is the perfumery equivalent of a post-concert encore: brief; familiar to the entire audience, which sighs with pleasure when hearing the first notes; and completely devoid of any ambition beyond transient joy. It is also one of life’s absolute necessities, perfume for when you don’t feel like perfume, before going to bed, to splash on your kids after the bath and introduce them to life’s finer pleasures, etc. In short, cologne is a cleanser for the soul.”

    LT on Cologne ŕ la Française (p. 127).

    It's a fun and often funny read. I don't care as much about nailing TS and LT on the details. I just wish they had reviewed 2400 fragrances, rather than 1200.

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    Default Re: New Luca Turin book - your thoughts? Here are mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by luca turin View Post
    Montale refused to send us fragrances.
    Tragic failure !
    They have been very generous with some of us lately!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    And what's wrong with Karajan????
    May I offer? Form over content - not really the worst fault a musician can have. But almost tragic:
    four different issues of the same 9 Beethoven symphonies in a conductor's life without audible differences of concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    May I offer? Form over content - not really the worst fault a musician can have. But almost tragic:
    four different issues of the same 9 Beethoven symphonies in a conductor's life without audible differences of concept.
    Doesn't consistency count for anything? He's the original Kraftwerk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    Doesn't consistency count for anything? He's the original Kraftwerk!
    Yes, consistency counts, but you would think that different phases of life open new perspectives, even for great, independent minds.
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    [QUOTE=DustB;1203143]There's already a long thread about the preview of this book's release. I think it's in its 8th page as I write this, and members are energetically posting their initial thoughts since the book is now available.

    "DustB"- My thread was not about the "preview" the book's release. I started the thread on Friday April 11th after I got the book from Amazon on Thursday as a regular (non-insider) customer. It is a shame to divert people from my thread especially as both LT and TS posted on it over the weekend and today, and I think Basenotes members might have been interested to see what they wrote. I don't know how having multiple threads on the same topic helps anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    There's already a long thread about the preview of this book's release. I think it's in its 8th page as I write this, and members are energetically posting their initial thoughts since the book is now available.

    "DustB"- My thread was not about the "preview" the book's release. I started the thread on Friday April 11th after I got the book from Amazon on Thursday as a regular (non-insider) customer. It is a shame to divert people from my thread especially as both LT and TS posted on it over the weekend and today, and I think Basenotes members might have been interested to see what they wrote. I don't know how having multiple threads on the same topic helps anything.
    You can always merge the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    There's already a long thread about the preview of this book's release. I think it's in its 8th page as I write this, and members are energetically posting their initial thoughts since the book is now available.

    "DustB"- My thread was not about the "preview" the book's release. I started the thread on Friday April 11th after I got the book from Amazon on Thursday as a regular (non-insider) customer. It is a shame to divert people from my thread especially as both LT and TS posted on it over the weekend and today, and I think Basenotes members might have been interested to see what they wrote. I don't know how having multiple threads on the same topic helps anything.
    I'm sorry Jemimagold,
    The preview thread I was refering to was on the Male Fragrance Discussion board, and, while I had seen your thread here, it somehow didn't register in my mind when I thought that the preview thread might need some relief. That was on the MFD, of course, and when the two threads were together moved over here, you're right, it certainly conflicts with the fine one you started. Sorry about that, I created this one simply thinking it would be on the MFD and as a "chapter two" for the preview thread.

    Now that they're all here on this board I'll follow Ruggles's advice and merge this one into yours.

    Thanks, and I'm sorry for my misunderstanding.
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