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    Default Re: Brut and Kouros: Twins separated at birth...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    They,,, can clear out a room (if the people I hang around with are any indication).
    This has never happened to me with Kouros. When I wear it, women tell me I smell sexy and a couple of guys I know now use it because I introduced them to it. Maybe it really just doesn't smell good on you. It's possible it doesn't mix well with your body chemistry.

    I haven't worn Brut in years. I don't remember it being a bad scent, I just currently prefer the (loosely) similar Rive Gauche pour homme.

    I don't think Brut and Kouros are similar.
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    Default Re: Brut and Kouros: Twins separated at birth...

    Kouros is the bastard child of Brut and Orange Spice.

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    Could one say that some of the notes in these two frags are presented with a lot of boldness or articulation (as compared to well-blended but high-quality designer frags)?

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    Default Re: Brut and Kouros: Twins separated at birth...

    I'm new to this place and really am learning as I go so this whole comparison has me laughing and reading. I will say that Kouros, to me though, belongs with the high school fragrances I once wore..Polo, Drakkar, Grey Flannel, Obsession and Kouros. Either a gift or through my Dad they were the 80s high school ones for me. I just thought they were around but faded away. I'm learning much more here.. Its been awhile but Korous always smelled like powdery soap to me.
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    Default Re: Brut and Kouros: Twins separated at birth...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Could one say that some of the notes in these two frags are presented with a lot of boldness or articulation (as compared to well-blended but high-quality designer frags)?
    Your not the sharpest knife in the draw are you Bigsly ?
    First of all you come accross as some Kouros expert but you haven't really worn it properly !!! all your posts & comments based on a spritz at a department store or wait ...... is it a little vial you have in your possesion ?
    Now your asking even more absurd questions that haven't got clearcut answers
    Go back a few posts and tell us why you have Vermeil in your swap list .




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    Just trying to learn. I never said I was some sort of frag expert, and I don't really trust such "experts" after reading "Perfumes: The Guide," to be honest. I sprayed Kouros once below the knee and it was like some sort of poison gas, so don't expect me to go near this stuff ever again. Not sure what the point about Vermeil is. I've said more than once that I experienced some sort of chemical sensitivity issue several weeks ago, so some frags are just too strong for me now. On the bright side, I seem to have developed much better olfactory sensitivity, so now I only need one spray for most frags (saving me money!).

    I don't know why that's an absurd question, but I'll try to explain what I was getting at. My thought was that the perfumer may have put more of a certain ingredient in frags like Kouros, making it "jump out" at first, more so than what one finds with the top notes of most frags. Or are you arguing that Kouros is basically like other designer frags, but it's just got some unusual notes? Again, I'm just trying to learn, so I'm definitely not very "sharp" at this point in my frag understanding. I hope fellow BNers will be patient with me, as I pursue my investigation. I know that at times I'll ask some "stupid questions," but that's the way I learn. Don't babies make some mistakes? And don't we find those mistakes adorable?

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    Default Re: Brut and Kouros: Twins separated at birth...

    just don't bring up the subject of Kouros hatred again .
    Its been done many times over the years as Narcus has said .
    In the time ive been here the haters are becoming fewer .
    I even ran a Poll on YSL frags and the big K was up there near the top or at the peak ?
    Good luck in getting your latest question & thoughts responded too .




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    Perhaps there is something in Kouros you aren't familiar with and your nose just grabs onto it and you are interpreting it negatively? The whole neuro-olfactory system in the brain isn't exactly linear and sometimes does crazy things. Sometimes our mind can play tricks on us and make us think what we are smelling is something else, when in fact we aren't. Especially if it's an unfamiliar scent. When I tried oud initially, it was a bit unnerving because the smell wasn't like anything I've smelled before, or something I hadn't smelled in a long time- the first thing that popped into my head was a hospital, antisepticly clean, coupled with a graveyard with vegetation everywhere. Some people smell gasoline in some fragrances, even though all they are smelling is a combination of musks, woods, and spices.

    Just some general advice- never apply a large amount of fragrance until you are familiar with it- start low and gradually go upward. Also, don't sniff the area when you apply it, it will just confuse your nose/brain with too many smells, like potpouri. In addition, the top notes on some fragrances actually fade away fast, but if you smell them initially you'ld get the wrong impression about a fragrance- you'll smell alot of light, sharp molecules first and that could turn your nose off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Just trying to learn. I never said I was some sort of frag expert, and I don't really trust such "experts" after reading "Perfumes: The Guide," to be honest.
    Well, there we have it (again)!

    Bigsley, your main issue is with Luca Turin (for God knows what reason), so why not at least be honest about it? Instead of opening all these sneaky topics about a fragrance you hardly know, don't care for and probably won't even smell more than once a year, at most!

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    "Bigsley, your main issue is with Luca Turin..."

    I've said in other threads that I'm glad his book is in my hands, but of course there are issues a reasonable person can raise with it. I've also said that his review of Kouros is excellent, unlike some of the other reviews in the book. After reading his review, and having sampled the kind of frag he mentioned in that review, I had enough information to know that it was probably not for me, but since I could try it for free, I felt I owed it to myself and the BN community to do so. If I owned the rights to Kouros, and could sell it, I would do so, but I still wouldn't wear it because it is so offensive to my sense of smell. I thought the title of this thread was funny, but as I said, I realize how emotionally hurtful such titles can be now, and I do promise to try to be extremely clinical in my posts from now on.

    If some want to question my intelligence, I will not object, but I won't do that to anyone else, because I am not that kind of person. As many say, "hate the sin but love the sinner." I don't hate LT or his book, and have learned a great deal from both his books, actually. However, I was trained to subject texts to intense scrutiny, and that is the way I am. I have made a pledge to the moderator to refrain from writing any posts that in any way might be considered provocative, and I intend to keep that pledge. I am trying to discuss the actual fragrance itself, as well as how others perceive it. I find it very interesting that many enjoy Kouros, even if I don't like it, and my questions are just an attempt to figure out what makes it (or any) fragrance appealing, or not, though because we are not face to face, it's certainly possible that some will "take things the wrong way." Interestingly, this is a criticism of LT too. Some people read things into his commentary, and of course it's impossible to know for sure if he meant things the way it sounded to those people.
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    Default Re: Brut and Kouros: Twins separated at birth...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Could one say that some of the notes in these two frags are presented with a lot of boldness or articulation (as compared to well-blended but high-quality designer frags)?
    Kouros is a well blended and high quality designer fragrance. Yes it is bold but it is not one dimensional or low-quality. Also I don't see the similarity with Brut except that you hate them both.

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    I didn't mean to suggest that Kouros was low quality. Rather, I wanted someone to compare it to something like Polo Double Black, which I perceive as high quality, well blended, and without any one note or accord being very strong. I am surprised to hear that Kouros is well blended. I suspected that one note or accord was given great prominence. Is it that Kouros uses a lot more aldehydes than something like Polo Double Black?
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