I would think a Fumerie and LDDM fan would love:
Black Tourmaline by Oliver Durbano
Well, you have helped me narrow colognes in the past and I need assistance again. Sometimes, you guys know more about me in my random posts than I realized. Like Eric (evogel) told me, I just do not play well with citrus. Why oh why did I not listen and stay away???
Well, L'Eau Neuve may be great on others, but it absorbs into my skin. I tested Eau Savage this morning and it had a metallic edge. Aquatic scents are okay, but the only one that really does well on me is Acqua di Gio and it is tired.
So, let me tell you those that work, those that did not, and see what you think of some that I am considering.
I have Fumerie and Chergui and MI and Tauer's LDDM. All last to well past 3:00 on me usually. Chergui I wear in Fall an Winter but can wear all the others year round.
Guerlain Vetiver and OV by Creed are soapy and earthy. Voleur de Roses was raw. Black Oud and I could not play, but it lasted so long. Eternity and Obsession last very well on me. Safari by Lauren as well. Romance does okay. Piper Nigrum lasted well and so did Yerbamate, but it was too powdery. Eau des Iles lasted but in the 2nd year, that hazelnut gave me a headache. Tea for Two was smokey, and I loved to a degree the Eau de Navagateur by L'Artisan. Divine Homme Sage was nice.
I dont know what class I like. SOmetimes I think it is incense, or woods, but I dont know how to classify them really.
Creed Virgin Island Water too coconutty. Royal English Leather smelt like bubblegum, but good!! Acier Aluminum, well, I did get the aluminum part. These I would stay away from.
I did not like Blenheim or Hamman Bouquet by Penhaligons, and Floris Santal was nice but dried to too much pepper.
I read Incensi and Sandalo by LV are nice, but dont know about them.
I am leaning to Feuille de Tabac by Miller Harris, or maybe Bois du Portugal. I am thinking it best to aim for a year round scent than try to go summer only, and that will keep me away from Citrus. Acqua di Parma had a certain allure but I read it is short-lived. Czech and Speak's 88 sounds okay, but I dunno, but Cuba sounds like better.
I do like to smell myself at lunch. The wrist with my watchband really smells great, and I love to use cologne on the other wrist as well. Sometimes, I can turn my neck and somehow, after lunch, I get a whiff of cologne. I dont spray it on clothes since I wear a suit 90% of the time during the week and then on Sundays.
I do have a bottle of D'Orsay Arome3 coming.
So guys, can I go to the well again with you?
Ambre Precieux by MPG?
Feuilles de Tabac
Cuir de Russie by Pafurms Empire, or even any others there?
Cuba by Czech and Speake?
Sandalo or Incensi by Villoresi?
Last edited by finsfan; 25th May 2008 at 07:53 PM.
I would think a Fumerie and LDDM fan would love:
Black Tourmaline by Oliver Durbano
Last edited by thebeck; 25th May 2008 at 09:55 PM. Reason: add vebage
Unfourtunatelly, of the ones you listed I only have tried cuba (Because I read somewhere that it smells like Havana). Nice scent.
I never understood LDDM hype... to me Bois Blond - Perfumerie Generale is much better if a bit sweeter. How about trying L'Homme Sage by divine?
*Summer" scent with no citrus Daim blond. Love it.
Current top 10 in no particular order : Malle - Carnal Flower (pre 2008) ; Montale - Black Aoud ; Bond #9 - Silver Factory ; Tauer - L'air du désert marocain ; C&Z - No 88 ; Francis K. - APOM ; Creed - Aventus ; Amouage - Epic ; Profumum - Dulcis In Fundo ; Amouage - Opus V
Thebeck: I read the reviews over on Luckyscent and they are promising but one guy said it was like standing in a fire and then pouring PineSol on yourself. I dont do pine very well.
Divine's Sage was okay on me, a good lasting one, but maybe not as great on me as say Feuilles de Tabac. However, neither one was a 'strong' cologne.
The idea of Cuba is interesting. To those of you who know what family of scents you like, your life is easier. I have come to realize that citrus is not going to be one for me. I used to wear Drakar and Eau Savage and Paco Rabanne and Quorom, but now, they have a metallic edge to them on my skin.
Dior's Homme lasted the best on me today between that, Juicy's Dirty English and Terre De Hermes.
Black Tourmaline seems Fall/winter but it did have good reviews.
Thanks to all that told me Acqua di Parma will be shortlived on me and not what I am looking for, as well as to forget about Tangerine Homme by Calypso.
I am like Sixcats in that scents die on me. Parfumes Empire sounds promising from the descriptions at Luckyscent and Beautyhabit.
Did you determine that SL Gris Clair was not an option for you?
I was able to try many of the Lutens, including Gris Clair, when I got my Chergui and Fumerie. As I recall, those two were the ones I liked. I don't think I want to dip into the Lutens pool again, for some reason, I might then start to think the two I have are not all that 'special' to me.
If you like tobacco scents, you will love the Miller Harris!
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Under the "Something else" category, may I suggest Chanel's Coromandel. It would smell fantastic on a guy but perhaps more for cooler temps. Also, their Cuir de Russie & Eau de Cologne would be wonderful. Should be fairly easy to find samples to try too.
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Part of the problem is I dont know what to look for as a starting point. There was one Bulgari that smelt like burnt tire rubber on me and if I knew what sort of 'group' that belonged to, I would avoid it. I am guessing that leather is a scent I dont do well with. I wonder if the Chergui, Fumerie, LDDM and say Obsession share something, like woods, or tobacco, that I need to stay with.
Thebeck suggested I order samples and I have done that, but the problem is I get like $20 worth of samples and that could have gone to a full bottle!!! I also can't handle more than 6 scents, say 3 or 4 for a season. I get kinda upset if I dont wear one often enough, but I dont want to be too anal and rotate them exactly.
C&S Cuba is an excellent fragrance but, for tobacco, I prefer 'Vintage' Tabarome, SMN Tabacco Toscano, SMN Acqua di Cuba and Domenico Caraceni pour Homme.
Please give C&S No. 88 a try. It is a superb masculine rose with excellent sillage and longevity. You'll catch whiffs well past three o'clock!
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I would suggest Miller Harris, FdT--however, I don't really think of this as a year-round scent (then again, I'm in Las Vegas). As an alternative for year-round use, and much different tobacco notes, how about Le Dandy? Or i Profumi di Firenze's Tabacco. Both are much more versatile than FdT.
Wow, that Domenico Caraceni sounds great. But with a bad experience with Voleur de Roses, I am a bit reticent and hesitant. Also, I read up on SMN Acqua di Cuba and a lit cigar seems like a no no, and Vintage Tabarome was a bit too heavy on the tobacco. I liked the sweetness of the Miller Harris, but in fall when I wore a sample of the Feuilles it was very light. If heat brings it out, great but if not, and its longevity is moderate, for that price, Id move on.
But back to a rose scent. C & S #88 and the Domenico, well, the sound intriguing. THe Blenheim Bouquet by Penhaligons, if I remember it correctly, smelled like pine needles, and Hamman Bouquet, oh, I can't remember, but neither impressed me.
Maybe you guys can see a pattern in what I like and then that narrows the field? I have Chergui and Fumerie and love the honeyed whatever in Chergui without it being cloying and the smokiness of Fumerie. I love the dryness of LDDM by Tauer and the bright note in MI and GIT. Love the pepper in Piper, and love the tabacco (sweet, not ashtray kind) in Miller Harris Feuilles. Dont like powdery, soap, the burnt rubber in one of those Bulgaris and strong vetiver. Like Eternity and Obsession by Calvin Klein
Feuilles de tabac is a nice one, very round and comforting tobacco, not too heavy.
About AdP, I can say citrus scents usually are weak and not lasting on me, but Colonia Assoluta is a all year round juice, both soapy-citrussy refreshing and with a warmer drydown that lasts on me about 8 hours. Maybe you should give it a try.
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Stuigi and Magnifiscent: Yes, the Miller Harris Feuilles de Tabac was nice on my skin, but after about 3 hours, it was close to the skin and by 6 hours, hardly detectable. But maybe in the heat of summer it works better? It has the sweet side of tabacco. If it lasts longer than most others I could consider, say Aqcua di Parma and the like, then with the sale at Beautyhabit, it is doable.
I was suppossed to have been sent a sample of the Acqua di Parma Colonia and Assoluta but it has not gotten here in 10 days.
I guess from what I like that I like incense (Fumerie?) and tobacco. I dont think I am a leather person and not a vanilla (LeMale) or raw earth. I do like them to last.
I have tried Terre D Hermes, YSL Pour Homme, Juicy's Dirty English, Dior Homme (best of the bunch), JPG Light Blue, Issye Miyaki and sniffed others.
Assume you have nothing in your collection but Chergui, MI, Tauer LDDM and Fumerie Turque. You want projection, you want longevity and you want to balance out your collection. No citrus, no Voleur de Roses, no Guerlain Vetiver. What works for you under those guidelines. 25% off is a powerful attraction, eh? Does MPG Ambre Precieux, Santal Noble or other work for you. Something from Parfum d'Empire?
I find that Cuba isn't really a tobacco scent. I find it mostly a bergamot/civet monster. I think it's really sexy, but I'm not sure why it's called Cuba.
Chergui's tobacco is quite comforting.
The Dreamer has a great tobacco leaf/lily accord. I also find the tobacco/ginger mix in Creed's Tabarome Millesime to be quite captivating.
Virgilio by Diptyque - Nice fresh long lasting frag. They use herbs like thyme and basil. The effect is a mixture that makes it have a nice refreshing minty quality. Mint by itself has no lasting power. With the combinations of herbs smelling like mint and having lasting power is great. It has some nice cedar in the base for that woody scent that works for you. Great for summer. I just bought a bottle myself.
Come back in fall for Fougere Bengale. Strong, long lasting, intoxicating powerhouse frag.
Ok, now I am learning something. Tabarome is ok on me, nothing special, but it does last. Chergui has tabacco also, and that is good, because the tabacco then in that and in Miller Harris is a good smell to me. I guess LDDM has tabacco?
Bahiana - sounds great, but I am afraid on me it would not last long. Also, read reviews on luckyscent that say the coconut is prominent, and that was what turned me off of Virgin Island Water by Creed (I think that was it). Edit: Eau de Toilette, it would not last on me. At least Feuilles is an eau de parfum, dang it.
Fougere Bengale, well, if it is that awesome, might be better off getting it and wearing MI and LDDM in summer and seeing if Chergui works in summer. If not, I have Chergui and the FB in fall/winter and Fumerie all year round? Or try another Parfume D'Empire?
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Last edited by thebeck; 27th May 2008 at 04:54 PM. Reason: add verbage
Don't forget that the 25% off also works for samples. Since it lasts till June 30, you'd still have time to decide on what you'd like. I just ordered a sample pack myself.
One of the guys on board has. Acqua di Parma Colonia Assoluta edizione Riviera, 200ml spray, 95% full, $90
and he has Black Tourmaline for like $95. I tried a sample this afternoon of the AdP Assoluta and the Colonia. First impressions: after 20 mins, the Colonia is stronger than L'Eau Neuve but half of what it was when applied. The Assoluta is less rose and I smell something almost medicinal, but in a nice way. It is also twice as loud, if you will, then the Colonia
Opps, after 45 mins, the AdP Assoluta is perfumy - very bright. I don't get lemons or citrus, but something that would sparkle bordering on feminine. Am I right?
What did not work
1) Acqua di Parma Colonia - nice rose, very nice, not too floral, not too earthy, but dang it, petered out after 30 minutes
2) Acqua di Parma Assoluta - maybe 2 hours, but deeper in scent. Not as nice as the Colonia, but if it lasted 5 hours, would have worked
3) Arome 3 - for someone who loves lavendar, very nice. I have a Root English Lavendar candle I love to burn at home and this is that for the skin. Shortlived on me
4) Acqua di Parma Blu Mediterraneo Toscano - very feminine. Drydown is nicer than the inital 90 minutes
5) Le Male - too vanilla, too vanilla
6) JPG Light blue - too metallic/acquatic
I am thinking citrus and vetiver and mostly floral topnotes dont work. I love Chergui and Fumerie and LDDM by Taeur
How do these strike you, and remember, I need longevity the most, and then projection:
Feuilles de Tabac - my idea of a nice, nice safe scent, but longevity may not be that great
Something by Parfum d'Empire
MPG Ambre Precieux - too sweet?
Santal Noble by MPG? - I read creamy and think vanilla, but who knows. I love Sandalwood shave cream, but some can be dry.
Czech and Speak Francinsens and Myrrh - same reservations as the Santal Noble.
I like the smoothness of the tabacco in Feuilles. I love the smokiness from Fumerie. I love that honey note in Chergui without it being cloying or too sweet. I love the dryness of LDDM. I LOVE the longevity of each of these.
Last edited by finsfan; 28th May 2008 at 01:11 AM.
I have narrowed it down to:
Fougere Bengale by Parfum D'empire - dont know but it sounds interesting.
Czech & SPeake 88 - everyone says I have to try it. I dont like the roses in Voleur de Roses but did so much like them in Acqua di Parma Colonia though it was fleeting.
Miller Harris Feuilles de Tabac, maybe Citron Citron. The Feuilles, I love the smoothness of the tabacco, not a ashtray but fresher and sweeter. It is THIS SMELL I am trying to duplicate. Fumerie may be too close to it, but I get more of a floral smell out of Fumerie, which is fine, to give it a little edge. If Feuilles was a silage monster and lasted all day, two bottles.
Black Tourmaline - sounds interesting
Costes - worried if it becomes too vanilla or powdery.
So, considering I have and like LDDM, Chergui, MI and Fumerie Turque and I love projection and longevity, and looking for warm weather to year round scent, which one(s)?
Last edited by finsfan; 28th May 2008 at 03:18 PM.
I personally think you can't go wrong with C&S 88. As with a lot of other fragrances, you may just have to apply it lightly in warmer weather.