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    Default Anyone feel this way about Davidoff's Zino?

    After the top notes were gone, it felt like Terre d'Hermes, Unagaro II, and Jovan Sex Appeal were fighting it out for supremacy. It's got many more positive than negative reviews (here at BN and elsewhere), but I really don't find this to be an especially pleasant olfactory experience. It reminds me of one of my layering endeavors that went too far, and that brings me to the main point, which is that those who really like this frag should do a lot of experimenting with layering (assuming you own at least several different frags), right? I've come to enjoy a less complicated experience. For example, earlier today I was wearing Samba Viva, which features mint and florals prominently. The interplay between the two makes this interesting and pleasant, but trying to do lot more would be too much. So for those of you who really like Zino, is it because it's very different and a good change of pace, or do you wear it very often because you like its busyness, and find most other frags boring by comparison?

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    I must admit I don't experience the convoluted opening you describe. I do get a huge whiff of eucalyptus, which, interestingly enough, is not listed on Zino's pyramid. (Maybe I'm smelling the clary sage?) After the somewhat "herbal medicine" opening, it dries down to a very strange and sexy fragrance of predominately sweet woods.

    Zino Davidoff is often compared to Heritage Guerlain, but I find them only vaguely similar in the opening notes. I actually prefer Zino because I find it more sensual, bohemian, less "stuffy", and more individualistic than Heritage. Then again, I tend to like the fragrances that are a bit off-beat: i.e. Salvador Dali pour homme, Habit Rouge, Xeryus Rouge, to name a few. (I was disappointed that Luca Turin thinks Xeryus Rouge's composition smells "cheap." I disagree.)

    PS: Heritage Guerlain's longevity is far superior to Zino Davidoff's. Heritage = about 24 hours. Zino = 6 hours for me, at best.
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    I don't think of Zino in those terms.

    It is an excellent scent but I consider it to be fairly typical of the '80s 'powerhouse' fragrance genre - nothing unduly complex or out of the ordinary for me.

    You made an interesting observation about layering. Perhaps it is the decline of these classic deeper 'complex' scents and the ascendance of the lighter fresher 'transparent' scents that leaves people wanting more - so they start layering to achieve the same 'complex' effect.
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    I found Zino to be a more rich Gucci Envy,although I could be waaaay off :O
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    I agree with TwoRoads ,, I respect Zino for what it is !! I can never be without a bottle ,, It is legendary ,, there is nothing else like it . Use it for what it is Bigsly & be happy we have a creation such as this one !

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    I don't see any of those fragrances in Zino at all. To me its rich smooth tobacco and patchouli with a fresh lavender accord running through it.

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    Zino, is perfect.
    Often imitated; Heritage and Escada pour Homme are just two, but it has never been equaled.
    Long live ZINO!

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    Used to own this one and the extreme drydown had a definite fecal note like I just stepped in a pile of shit. It always made me check my shoes to see if I had done so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by samplermike View Post
    Used to own this one and the extreme drydown had a definite fecal note like I just stepped in a pile of shit. It always made me check my shoes to see if I had done so...
    LMAO

    Just goes to show that one man's masterpiece is another man's pile of shit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by samplermike View Post
    Used to own this one and the extreme drydown had a definite fecal note like I just stepped in a pile of shit. It always made me check my shoes to see if I had done so...
    This way, I definitely feel a good dose of masochism. Used to own a pile-of-shit-smelling something? I wouldn't be surprised if you would add layering it with urinal cake Kouros

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    Quote Originally Posted by samplermike View Post
    Used to own this one and the extreme drydown had a definite fecal note like I just stepped in a pile of shit. It always made me check my shoes to see if I had done so...
    I've had it on for 6 hours and still no dog sh*t odor. Are you sure it was the Zino?
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    I may have a bit of some sort of chemical sensitivity issue at this point, but what that means is I can only use one or two sprays. With Zino, I didn't feel ill (after about 3 hours of it), just irritated by the shifting smells. There is the sour citrus, the animalic floral, and the herby amber that for me was like a layering idea that sounded a lot better than it actually was. Of course my tastes might change, but now I enjoy a simpler olfactory experience. I'd be curious to hear about other frags that have a similar layering-like quality (so that I can avoid them, for the time being).

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    Default Re: Anyone feel this way about Davidoff's Zino?

    I think it is a classic.

    Long live the 80s power fragrances!
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    Default Re: Anyone feel this way about Davidoff's Zino?

    This is a complex, hard to understand/appreciate fragrance. I get the notes pretty much as described in the pyramid and I do get a strong bergamot and clary sage, followed by the rose/geranium and florals (including muguet), finished with the animalic and amber notes.
    The conncetion to TdH, I think, is probably because of the dry herbal mix which I've always smelled underneath the lush florals. The animalic notes are probably responsible for the connection to UII and of course the amber and patchouli for the JSA.
    To me, this is one of the most sensual fragrances out there.

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    Zino is a very fluid and intoxicating composition. No jumbled or confused drydown here. Dark and earthy from the sublime rose & patchouli accord. Has nothing to do with Terre d'Hermes' brightness and sunny disposition. I would almost go so far as to posit that Terre is confused in its drydown.
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    Default Re: Anyone feel this way about Davidoff's Zino?

    Resurrecting this thread bc it rocks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    After the top notes were gone, it felt like Terre d'Hermes, Unagaro II, and Jovan Sex Appeal were fighting it out for supremacy.
    Wow! Great description. But you have to add sandalwood!

    It's got many more positive than negative reviews (here at BN and elsewhere), but I really don't find this to be an especially pleasant olfactory experience. It reminds me of one of my layering endeavors that went too far, and that brings me to the main point, which is that those who really like this frag should do a lot of experimenting with layering (assuming you own at least several different frags), right? I've come to enjoy a less complicated experience. So for those of you who really like Zino, is it because it's very different and a good change of pace, or do you wear it very often because you like its busyness, and find most other frags boring by comparison?
    Definitely the latter. There is usually not enough going on in frags, or they lack the animalic depth I generally prefer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bossa Nova View Post
    I must admit I don't experience the convoluted opening you describe. I do get a huge whiff of eucalyptus, which, interestingly enough, is not listed on Zino's pyramid. (Maybe I'm smelling the clary sage?)
    Yes along with lavender.

    After the somewhat "herbal medicine" opening, it dries down to a very strange and sexy fragrance of predominately sweet woods.
    Zino Davidoff is often compared to Heritage Guerlain, but I find them only vaguely similar in the opening notes. I actually prefer Zino because I find it more sensual, bohemian, less "stuffy", and more individualistic than Heritage.
    Good way to put it!

    Then again, I tend to like the fragrances that are a bit off-beat: i.e. Salvador Dali pour homme, Habit Rouge, Xeryus Rouge, to name a few. (I was disappointed that Luca Turin thinks Xeryus Rouge's composition smells "cheap." I disagree.)
    Afraid I'm with Mssr. Turin on that one.

    PS: Heritage Guerlain's longevity is far superior to Zino Davidoff's. Heritage = about 24 hours. Zino = 6 hours for me, at best.
    Probably a reformulation issue. Zino gives me 12 hours or more.

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoRoads View Post
    It is an excellent scent but I consider it to be fairly typical of the '80s 'powerhouse' fragrance genre - nothing unduly complex or out of the ordinary for me.
    I agree, though I do think it's "better" than almost all the other ones from back then.

    You made an interesting observation about layering. Perhaps it is the decline of these classic deeper 'complex' scents and the ascendance of the lighter fresher 'transparent' scents that leaves people wanting more - so they start layering to achieve the same 'complex' effect.
    I have never heard of that theory before. Very interesting!

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony87 View Post
    I found Zino to be a more rich Gucci Envy,although I could be waaaay off :O
    Nope dude. I see where you're coming from. Envy eschews the old-school civet in favor of modern ginger and white musk. Nice stuff!

    Quote Originally Posted by scentimus View Post
    I don't see any of those fragrances in Zino at all. To me its rich smooth tobacco and patchouli with a fresh lavender accord running through it.
    It's that too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Guyer View Post
    Zino, is perfect.
    Often imitated; Heritage and Escada pour Homme are just two, but it has never been equaled.
    Long live ZINO!
    Well put!

    I'm concerned Escada has dihydromyrcenol so I've avoided it...

    Quote Originally Posted by samplermike View Post
    Used to own this one and the extreme drydown had a definite fecal note like I just stepped in a pile of shit. It always made me check my shoes to see if I had done so...
    Aka civet.

    Quote Originally Posted by knightowl View Post
    LMAO

    Just goes to show that one man's masterpiece is another man's pile of shit...
    Amen. (No, not A*Men.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    I may have a bit of some sort of chemical sensitivity issue at this point, but what that means is I can only use one or two sprays. With Zino, I didn't feel ill (after about 3 hours of it), just irritated by the shifting smells. There is the sour citrus, the animalic floral, and the herby amber that for me was like a layering idea that sounded a lot better than it actually was. Of course my tastes might change, but now I enjoy a simpler olfactory experience. I'd be curious to hear about other frags that have a similar layering-like quality (so that I can avoid them, for the time being).
    Love that description again! "sour citrus, the animalic floral, and the herby amber" ... yes!

    How has your opinion of Zino changed since you wrote that four years ago dude?

    Quote Originally Posted by petruccijc View Post
    I think it is a classic.

    Long live the 80s power fragrances!
    Of course Joe gets it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Renaissance_Man View Post
    This is a complex, hard to understand/appreciate fragrance. I get the notes pretty much as described in the pyramid and I do get a strong bergamot and clary sage, followed by the rose/geranium and florals (including muguet), finished with the animalic and amber notes.
    Agree completely about the accord breakdown. Is it that hard to understand though? Oh yeah, it did get discontinued...

    The conncetion to TdH, I think, is probably because of the dry herbal mix which I've always smelled underneath the lush florals. The animalic notes are probably responsible for the connection to UII and of course the amber and patchouli for the JSA.
    To me, this is one of the most sensual fragrances out there.
    Those crisp dry aromatics, resins and woods are what bring the rich sandal, civet, musk and vanilla accord into balance.

    Quote Originally Posted by manicboy View Post
    Zino is a very fluid and intoxicating composition. No jumbled or confused drydown here. Dark and earthy from the sublime rose & patchouli accord. Has nothing to do with Terre d'Hermes' brightness and sunny disposition. I would almost go so far as to posit that Terre is confused in its drydown.
    Or invisible... Iso E tends to have that effect.

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    Default Re: Anyone feel this way about Davidoff's Zino?

    Never got bored or even slightly disappointed by this scent, it is, to me, the epitome of mature, luxurious and elegant powerhouse, and yes, while a certain similarity with IUngaro II and even, marginally, TDH is perceptible, but even more with Guerlain Heritage, also mentioned on this thread.

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    Yes, that is my opinion of the new version, which has little if any sandalwood (at least relative to my vintage bottle). I have documented my Zino odyssey in my Fragrantica review of it, for those interested.

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    Default Re: Anyone feel this way about Davidoff's Zino?

    Carven Homme is another fragrance that has some similarities to Zino. Carven Homme is also compared to Gucci Envy.

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    A classic IMO.

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    A nice classic scent to me that is not dated at all, and of course smells much more than its price range! Simply could have been one of recent niche ones with very small change!
    Worths having a full bottle, considering its price....
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    I've got a question about this one. I sampled it about 10 years ago and didn't like it because I mainly smelled what I think was the clary sage in it, kind of a dusty-gritty scent, and only got a tiny bit of the patchouli and rose in the very background. Do you think I got a bad sample? I'm thinking of trying it again, because so many guys have a great experience with it. I do like the powerhouse scents--strong and dark. Maybe it deserves another try. And do you know of any "discount" stores that sell it? Thanks much!

    Also...maybe I should wait longer for the drydown...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    it felt like Terre d'Hermes, Unagaro II, and Jovan Sex Appeal were fighting it out for supremacy.
    That doesn't sound appealing at all. Just that description is making me sick. However, it has piqued my interest! I'm imagining something overly sweet with bitter citrus, and mulling spices with gun flint and patchouli.
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    great scent, old version tried it yesterday better than the new one but really not so different and not so exciting, imo!
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    Interesting thread and when I saw my own post above (#14), I see that I still feel exactly the same about this scent.

    I still love it and it's often complimented. Just as a note, when people mention 80s powerhouses, this is not a typical powerhouse with strong herbal and leather or tobacco components (e.g., Polo, Oscar, Quorom, etc.). Often you get lavender, carnation, leather, civet and musk with those.

    I also don't get a big sandalwood (or the accord) as an important part of this composition. There is so much emphasis on that by a few members, stating that's where the main difference is between the vintage and the current offering. Personally, I don't see/smell it.

    I think Zino, even in its current formula, is an outstanding value and can be thoroughly enjoyed today. I would take it over Heritage, which smells more outdated to me anyway.

    For those who would like to get a more modern version of this, IMHO, Prada Ambre Pour Homme Intense gives me the same vibe with the particular rendition of the sweet amber and patchouli (no rose/geranium). I myself might consider it as a replacement in the future when I run out of my vintage Zino juice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicemeister View Post
    I've got a question about this one. I sampled it about 10 years ago and didn't like it because I mainly smelled what I think was the clary sage in it, kind of a dusty-gritty scent, and only got a tiny bit of the patchouli and rose in the very background. Do you think I got a bad sample? I'm thinking of trying it again, because so many guys have a great experience with it. I do like the powerhouse scents--strong and dark. Maybe it deserves another try. And do you know of any "discount" stores that sell it? Thanks much!

    Also...maybe I should wait longer for the drydown...?
    If you don't like clary sage you're gonna have an uncomfortable hour after spraying it on, that's for sure. The rose is quite subtle, but the patchouli comes out pretty strong once the herbs and citrus wear off.

    Quote Originally Posted by superfluousPastry View Post
    That doesn't sound appealing at all. Just that description is making me sick. However, it has piqued my interest! I'm imagining something overly sweet with bitter citrus, and mulling spices with gun flint and patchouli.
    Not overly sweet at all actually, just a bit of vanilla to smooth things out. Gun flint? Nah. I don't get any spices either. Huge musk however, which might be the Sex Appeal connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renaissance_Man View Post
    I also don't get a big sandalwood (or the accord) as an important part of this composition. There is so much emphasis on that by a few members, stating that's where the main difference is between the vintage and the current offering. Personally, I don't see/smell it.
    Agreed that the sandalwood is not a very big presence, but it does add some depth and richness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renaissance_Man View Post
    I think Zino, even in its current formula, is an outstanding value and can be thoroughly enjoyed today. I would take it over Heritage, which smells more outdated to me anyway..
    Heritage is way powdery to my nose. Not a fan.

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    Default Re: Anyone feel this way about Davidoff's Zino?

    Zino is one I haven't worn, outside of a spritz or two here or there while visiting a mall kiosk over the last half dozen years, since the 90's.

    BUT....

    I wore it A LOT during the 90's. And it never failed to impress. I got several compliments on it during that time period. It was one of my favorites.

    I hear people saying that there isn't much difference between the original/vintage Zino and today's reformulations....but I have to differ somewhat. While I'm no authority on the current formulation...the times I've sampled it it didn't seem to be the same scent that I went through 3 or 4 bottles of during the 90's. Maybe not a huge differecne...but enough of one that Zino will likely remain a very fond memory, and one I'm not willing to compromise by buying a bottle of the "current" juice.

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    Default Re: Anyone feel this way about Davidoff's Zino?

    Vintage bottles are still fairly easy to find. I should know I've got several backups...

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    Default Re: Anyone feel this way about Davidoff's Zino?

    I don't notice much difference in terms of smell from vintage to new, although the vintage is fuller, lasts longer, and is a little more "plush" than the modern thinner version. Certainly though even the modern version puts the vast majority of male fragrances to shame, including most expensive niche fragrances.
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