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    Default Dark fragrannces

    I like to know what gives a fragragrance the dark charactor? Isn't it subjective to say that a certain fragrance is dark. There could be opposit views on darkness or brightness of a fragrance. For example, Ungaro III is concidered a dark fragrance by many Basenote reviewers. Some wrote:
    "dark and gothic" ; "goth in a bottle"; "scent Dracula would wear as his signature" and so on, and on the other hand some wrote:
    "Melancholy? No. Dark? No way." ; "A happy and cheery romantic" ; "Dark and gothic? Not to this nose. Bright, sharp...cheery"
    I would like to see your input on this.

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    The reformulation of Ungaro III is quite different from the original. The original was dark, with pronounced leather notes in the base. The newer version is not so dark.

    Some ingredients can give fragrances a dark character; some combinations (especially of base notes) can do the same. Many people will say that a perfume in which the base notes clearly dominate is dark, especially with chypres and leathers, less so with fougères and florals. It is a little subjective, but one or more of the factors I mention will ususally get some people to call such fragrances "dark."
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    Salvador Dali PH, for example has a heady base of burnt cedarwood, patchouli, a very odd bloddy musk and some dead flowers in the heart notes.
    i think it may have a goat's head in it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castorpollux View Post
    Salvador Dali PH, for example has a heady base of burnt cedarwood, patchouli, a very odd bloddy musk and some dead flowers in the heart notes.
    i think it may have a goat's head in it too.
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    Default Re: Dark fragrannces

    Quote Originally Posted by castorpollux View Post
    Salvador Dali PH, for example has a heady base of burnt cedarwood, patchouli, a very odd bloddy musk and some dead flowers in the heart notes.
    i think it may have a goat's head in it too.
    LOL

    I think Dali would have definitely approved of those notes/ingredients
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    Excuse me for trying to answer the question!
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    Smoke, incense and/or leather in a fragrance tend to give my nose the impression of darkness.
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    Encre Noire.

    it's dark. ink dark.

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    darkness? well if its a young vampire...then Costume National Scent Intense is the dark, brooding, sexy way to go.
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    I reckon the following villains/heroes wore the following...

    Darth Vader - Bvlgari Black
    Dracula - Egoiste
    The Crow - Encre Noir

    Narcisso and M7 could also come off dark and moody if done properly...
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    The darkness may come from:
    The fragrances with dominating earthy notes like Patchouli or Vetiver - almost all fragrances with Vetiver in its name, Gentleman (Givenchy), Encre Noire (Lalique), Sycomore (Chanel).
    The dominating incense notes like in Incense Extreme (Tauer Perfumes).
    Leather fragrances, smokey notes - Lonestar Memories (Tauer Perfumes), Bandit (Piguet), Cabochard (Gres), Knize Ten
    Some of Aromatic Fougères - I think due to a combination of herbs with Vetiver and/or leather notes - Rice Gauche PH, Azzaro, Aramis etc.
    Some of sultry opiating tropical flowers, like Tuberose, Orchid, Jasmin, Ylang may appear very dark and Gothic. Like in Tubereuse Criminelle (Serge Lutens) I smell the nice white petals together with sultry opiating darkness. Fracas (Piguet) may called dark as well.
    But still - can be very individual. And there are no rules what makes it dark...

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    My olfactory system reads it differently all the time, but Lutens's Rose de Nuit is often the darkest stuff I've ever smelled. I love it but don't wear it much (I'd rather smell it on someone else), but it's the epitomy of dark chypre.
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    i've noticed, Chypre, incense, Mryhh to exude the dark spirits...

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    ooh I like this thread, I was just about to post a similar question.

    I LOVE dark fragrances! I'd like something with a bit of pumpkin or anything dark and halloween-ish... if anyone else has any suggestions i'd love to hear!

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    Excellent, excellent. This should all help me choose something for my Sweeney Todd costume. Something that smells like blood, if at all possible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kopah View Post
    Excellent, excellent. This should all help me choose something for my Sweeney Todd costume. Something that smells like blood, if at all possible...
    The first thing that came to my mind was L'Anarchiste. A weird blood-like note and a metallic vibe that will hopefully smell a bit like bloody barber blades on your skin.



    For the original question... To my nose, strong incense or smoke make a fragrance dark. Some woods and some florals (like rose and ylang-ylang) have dark qualities to them.
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    I actually associate dark notes with where I sense them - deep inside my nose and even close to the throat as opposed to crisp and bright notes (like the opening of citrus scent) that make me tingle from the outside. I think dark notes compel me to take the air deeper while very bright notes are associated with acid or alcohol which are less welcomed by instinct. In this sense, it's quite like colors – bright colors make your pupil close and dark colors make your pupil open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoDan View Post
    ooh I like this thread, I was just about to post a similar question.

    I LOVE dark fragrances! I'd like something with a bit of pumpkin or anything dark and halloween-ish... if anyone else has any suggestions i'd love to hear!
    Me too, i love Halloween (best time of the year!) and i crave goth things and smells.
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    Default Re: Dark fragrannces

    Resurrecting this thread, since I am of the opinion that "dark" takes the prize as the least descriptive word in all of perfumery.

    What I assumed to be dark in fragrance - harsh, unusual/mysterious or strange - generally isn't the case at all. "Black" fragrances tend to be balsamic sweet . . . um, last time I checked, vanilla ice cream was white. (I know vanilla pods are dark brown, but associations are made at an early age.) "Rose" doesn't smell "dark" to me . . . it smells red.

    Most of BPAL's are sweet, heady florals, the last thing I would consider "dark." Most of Serge Lutens' offerings smell "brown" (woody, dense) to me.

    I think many of us agree that citrus is "bright." I find iris and musk to smell "white" (from soap and "clean laundry"). Herbs, galbanum, and leaves are "green." Lavender can be "purple" (floral) or "green" (herbal). But "dark"? I don't find Fahrenheit "dark" . . . I find it bright, green and airy.

    What do you think?

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    Amouage Memoir Man
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    Amouage Memoir Man / Dark,Cave-Dark.

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    Zino Davidoff & Guerlain Heritage
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    Way to not read my post, guys.

    I find Zino to be a bright citrus scent . . . it's yellow. Heritage is a mild beige to me. Memoir Man is green and brown incense . . . see what I mean? Now read my post above and stop listing fragrances that people on BN say are "dark"

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    Duplicate post.
    Last edited by BurgundyMarsh; 27th May 2012 at 12:43 AM.

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    Default Re: Dark fragrannces

    I find incense heavy fragrances dark (greyish-black)to my understanding. Thus Full Incense by Montale fits my interpretation of dark (ashen grey-charcoal black)

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    Default Re: Dark fragrannces

    Here are some darks:

    Worth pour Homme
    Avignon
    Tsar
    Witness
    Dark Aoud
    Knize Ten
    Eucris
    Black Orchid
    M7
    Trussardi uomo

    Dark notes include incense, oud, leather, smoke, cognac, rubber, tobacco, orchid.

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    I find Amouage Epic very dark

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    Narcisco Rodrigiez for men and Encre Noir fit this bill for me.

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