Black Aoud does last long on me. But: I "loose contact" with it after five hours. It's still there, it still gets noticed by others - good for them. If I put on a healthy dose of Green Irish Tweed (Creed), e.g. eight wisely destinated spritzes (under the shirt etc.), I'm myself in olfactory heaven from morning to evening. I don't want to find explanations ("olfactory fatigue"), I just accept it.
Even if Black Aoud lasted on my skin for only five hours, it's still worth every penny of it. Luckily, Black Aoud stays longer than five hours. It's more like 10 hours!
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I gotta agree with most people here. Black Aoud has insane longevity and sillage. So Im pretty sure its scent fatigue. The same thing happens to me from time to time. I found that if I do not wear fragrances for a few days (3-4 days). My nose comes back to life and I can detect my scents better (longer and more details in the notes).
Also I recommend no more than 2 sprays of Black Aoud for maximum effect. This stuff is very powerful, The first time I tried it I sprayed one whole spray on my chest and went to work ( I work in an office ). Well that was a mistake. Black Aoud is not office wear.
Montale is the house that has consistently the best longevity for its scents, without a doubt.
Dont know if anyone else got this, but Auod Damascus on me, wow, projects like crazy.
Now, when I wore Black Aoud, I was in coat and tie, and wore half a sample vial.
With Damascus, I wore the whole vial, as I am in short sleeves and I rubbed some on the insides of my arms. I can smell it so much.
Damascus to my nose is like the Acqua di Parma Colonia, but louder and longer lasting. Not as sweet either. But Damascus is sweeter than Black.
So, maybe a bit off topic, how are Queen Roses and Attar compared to Black and Damascus?
Attar - all day
Wore Attar today. Not as excited about it as Damascus or Black. Damascus lasted the longest, and Black and Attar about the same.
Can someone compare their perceptions of these three as far as the rose note, and wearability and other characteristics of the scent?
Also, I know how some say that some Creeds age and are more intense and longer lasting as they get older. Also, the thought they express is that these are natural ingredients and so one batch can be different than another. Are Montales the same way?
I guess, so far it would be between Black Aoud and Damascus as far as one to get. Id like a rose note, and there is Rose Petals (I think it is Black Aoud without hte Aoud if I read correctly); Rose Musk (a different animal altogether); Queen Rose, which is spicy and has saffron, and maybe another. Attar had that creamy sandalwood, but it was about to try to get powdery and in the end, it never developed. Aoud in Attar stepped aside and then I had, after about 90 minutes, a scent that I felt could have been done by any other perfumer. ANybody else get that same impression?
I see there are like 32 reviews for Black and 10 for Attar and about the same for Damascus. I know more than 10 guys have sampled Damascus and Attar. Is that indicative that more guys, when actually having to choose, go with Black?
I love Attar and actually might prefer it to Black Aoud. However, I don't find the two completely different enough to justify owning both (I own Black Aoud). I love both though so it's not a terrible predicament. I think the reason Black Aoud has so many more reviews is because it's been hyped up by basenoters much more than Attar.
To the point of the original question... I wore Musk to Musk yesterday and my girlfriend could still smell it on my chest this morning, 24 hours later. Now that's pretty darn good longevity.
Oh, and Queen Roses and Roses Petals do have Aoud in them.. (Oud Queen Roses and Aoud Roses Petals).
Roses Musk is incredible, but yes, completely in a different league than these others.
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I'm a colognosaurus. Rawr!
I am testing Black and Attar on the inside of each elbow. Attar is a brighter rose, boardering on sweet, and Black is going in the opposite direction. Maybe that is what is giving my nose the impression that the Attar is more intense, maybe longer lasting?
After 3.5 hours, the Attar is twice as projecting as the Black. It is a bit too perfumy and boardering on powdery. I just think that Black would be disappointing for the price, kinda like how Colonia peters out on me, and that Attar would not be as satisfying
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Well, looking for bottles of Piper Nigrum and maybe Montale Red Vetyver, but not full bottle perhaps
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I think comparing the lasting power of the Aoud line is kinda like splitting hairs. They ALL have fantastic lasting power and projection as well. And Fins, most of them have a rose note, some stronger and/or different that the others. Just a few seem to me missing that note to me.
I love Attar. It seems like a simpler composition than the others. I have never tried a true rose attar but I have to wonder how different that would be from Montale's Attar, (at a much lower price point). Of course the Montale has the addition of a bit of oud and maybe it's possibly more complex but I'd really like to compare them side by side.
Something like this: http://www.tigerflag.com/attar_of_roses.html
Many state that there is redundancy in the Aoud line but after careful study, I don't think this is correct. I find many (most!) worth owning without being redundant. They are addictive.
If you use two sprays you will wish to dear God you hadn't even 6 hours later. I can smell it quite distinctly the next am and only a shower makes it go away. Somewhat.
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Red Vetyver by Montale (non aoud) last on my skin the whole day...Montale´s scents got real power on longtivity and sillage.
One spray of Lime Aoud is almost too much. It would outlast even the Energizer Bunny!
I wore Red Aoud and loved that note, I think it is Saffron. It lasted strong for 4 or 5 hours, and then kinda just lingered.
Maybe it is saying something that there is nose fatigue. I wore Red Aoud, Damascus and Attar all on my forearms. Maybe that allowed the scent to seem like it projected more, and of the three, they all seemed to last as long. Black Aoud, before I ran out, was just the wrists, the face and neck and back of the hand, 1/2 of the sample vial on two wearings. The other three was a full sample vial worn, so maybe 1/2 went on the forearms.
I will wear Aoud Limes tomorrow, since I have 1/2 vial, like I did Black and see how that works. I will be in coat and tie but was not with the Red, Attar, and Damascus.
Attar, I loved the roses, but it kinda boardered on perfumey/powdery. Not really there, but like it wanted to turn that way. I think that I love the roses in the aouds, and prefer that over the Red or the Red Vetyver, though they are fine scents in their own right.
So, I guess it is between Auod Limes, Damascus and Black. Help me decide?
I own both Aoud Lime and Black Aoud and I'd go for Black Aoud anyday finsfan.
Which do you like finsfan? Go with your gut...if you don't and allow others to pick or persuade you on one, then it will end up on the sale forum soon after you receive it. You know the one you like...Go for it and trust your good nose buddy.
Jock, yes, I know. Damascus smells slightly like it will last longer, but Black was good for the initial hit, better even. Maybe the fact that I had Damascus on my forearms and Black was covered up by shirt sleeves (and thus got no forearm juice) made it seem like Damascus was stronger and longer lived. But Black smelled better, the deeper and woodier rose. All I need to do is convince myself it is every bit the sileage and longevity monster that the others are and I am good to go.
I have tried to talk to others at shave forums where I am a member. One is a younger crowd and they get Montale, the other is more the lines of Trumpers and Taylors Sandalwood and Floris.
Oh, sale of 40% off on Floris scents at www.vintagebladesllc.com. Was thinking of a Vetiver there.
Well, Attar, Damascus and Black I got to sample. All were great but Black, Damascus and Attar in that order of preference. Sliver Aoud, well, it felt like a Creed with a bit of Aoud thrown in. Vetiver des Sables, no go, and Sunset Flowers, no.
Red Aoud on me smelled like spices and a bit of saffron. It wore well in summer. Vanilla, I did not notice. I got a hint of Vanilla or wanting to go vanilla from Attar. Attar was like Colonia with a bit of wood thrown in, and the roses on steroids (longer lasting). Black was like C&S 88, (well, after the aoud stepped back after 45 minutes or so) less the soap.
I have a thread on longevity, and the Black was not worn on my forearms with short sleeves as the others were. But Red Aoud and Red Vetvyer might have to be 2nd bottle purchases if I get a rose Aoud first.
You should check out the "Montale Reviews" thread on the Female Board. There's a lot of great information there which will let you compare almost all titles.
Well I think Black wins. Attar was sweet and had a bit of a vanilla/powder/perfumey note. Lasted a long time. Damascus was sort of a middle ground scent. I think that Black has the sillage and projection and long lasting, but I wore the other two with short sleeves and dabbed it on my forearms, and could not do so with the Black.
I was tempted to try Queen Roses and Rose Petals. Can someone compare or contrast those with Black?
Now, one I am wearing today and love: Red Vetyver. Coolness and warmth. Pepper but not as harsh as Piper Nigrum.
I wanted to comment about Vetiver des Sables because no one has mentioned it yet. I have a bottle and to me it smells like mahogany and calone (the iodine/sea weed note). It goes on nicely as a woody marine scent but quickly (in my opinion) turns into a strong artificial smelling mess. To be honest, I don't smell any vetiver in this at all. I am sure it's there but it's completely covered up by the other ingredients. Luckily, this was a gift from my uncle who also didn't care for it. It's OK, it's just not something I reach for except to remind myself what it smells like. Maybe I will wear it again today since it's been months!
Finsfan. If you are looking for a Montale with oud like aromatic limes and rose like CS 88, I suggest you try Golden Aoud. Warm rose with gentle oud.
I also like Musk to Musk and Sliver Aoud but I don't think they have the rose presence you are looking for.
I've worn both Black Aoud, and Aoud Queen Roses. AQR opens with a HUGE rose...a pungent oily rose- 'an then after a while, tha' oud comes on. This was a sample I rec'd from a trade with a fellow basenoter, 'an my first experience with tha' Montale line. WOW!!! In BA, tha' rose is prominient, but it's more subdued, I reckon.
If Y'all are really into roses & aoud, then AQR is for you. You really can't go wrong with tha' Black Aoud, tho'.
- A spritz of Caron may be quite continental, but (a flacon of) Guerlain is a perfumisto's best friend...
Okay, heads up, which one appeals to you more?
Are they sufficiently different to merit separate bottles?
I get a more subdued pepper blast from Red, and after 5 hours, it stays spicy in the forefront and seems more linear. Not that this is bad, far from it. Very, very pleasant. Not a heavy cologne, but it has moderate projection.
Piper, sure, heavy pepper and some mintiness going on. After a few hours, it starts subsiding on the pepper projection and some creamy base, but not vanilla, comes through. It develops a bit more, and probably will not be as long lasting.
I do know I want a rose cologne, and Montale's Black, Queen or Rose Petals will be that. But is Red Vetyver my second Montale? I have a 1.7 ounce Piper, and dont know whether to get Red or not. I dont want a large collection of bottles and getting Red gets me to 7, whereas six is probably ideal for me.
Lineup so far
Miller Harris Tangerine Verte
L'Air du Desert Morocain
and one Rose Montale
That is my 6 pack. If I had to replace one so Red can come in, my 1st choice is probably the Miller Harris.
Wow, a long time basenoter with only six bottles. . . you must have some serious will power.
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