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    Default Re: Piper Nigrum and Montale Red Vetvyer

    Take out the GIT now. Still want Piper and Red Vetyver and Pasteum rose. or maybe some other rose scent
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    Default Prices on Montales

    Ok, I would just as soon deal with Vijay on this. I read where if you want extra Aoud, then you have to get it from Montale directly. Yet, I have never heard back from them for samples, and then Vijay started up again and I just forgot to even want to ask Montale directly, since Vijay takes care of things so fast.

    How much are 50ml and 100ml bottles of say Aoud Limes, and then the non-Aouds? Just wondered if someone can post that. I am thinking of Red Vetyver, since it lasts well on me. Black comes and goes, and Attar was to sweet. Good thing that Aoud is not in RV as I would be tempted to "up-juice" it/.

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    Default Re: Prices on Montales

    Just to interject, I'm pretty sure what Montale would be adding upon request is extra perfume oil which may include some oud but the addition of just oud would change the character of the scent and increase the price a lot. :-)

    As far as prices, I can comment that the Aoud line 50ml bottles are 55 Euros and the 100ml are 95 Euros direct from Montale. Free shipping with a total of 100ml and any 100ml order (in total) gets you a free 20ml. Otherwise, shipping for less than 100ml is 20 Euros.
    The non-Aoud line is less expensive, maybe someone who knows will chime in on those.

    I say, better off going with Vijay if possible. I understand customs problems can occur with direct orders.

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    Default Re: Prices on Montales

    Those are the same prices i got directly from Montale when asking specifically about Red Vetyver.
    55 euros for 50mL + 20 euros shipping = $110.20 as of the aug. 18 exchange rate
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    95 euros for 100mL + 20mL + free shipping = $139.63

    So there you go. I'm guessing this is the pretty standard rate for the non-aoud line.

    I just got my bottle of Red Vetyver from Vijay and with all of the samples thrown in it is a much better deal working with him particularly on the 50mL size.
    Actually I think it is a much better deal working with Vijay in general.
    That's just me of course.
    Last edited by Somerville Metro Man; 18th August 2008 at 10:00 PM. Reason: As finsfan pointed out forgot to add the shipping to the 50mL size
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    Default Re: Prices on Montales

    SMM: Seems weird that 55 euros and the 20 for shipping is 75 euros and that works out to only $80, but the 95 euros is $139? Is it the juice that is 55 euros which is $80 or so, and then 20 euros on top of that for shipping? PM sent

    Wow, that means that buying from Montale is a bigger bargain when you go with the Auods. The Auods are usually $210 for 100 ml and now they are 95 euros directly or $140.00? Somerville, you did not get quite the bargain then as the Auods but still a good deal. Yet that means you can get a couple of the smaller auods for a combined $160.00 or so and then get a 20ml third scent.
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    not to hijack the thread, but i just ordered direct from Montale for 139.63. do any one know how long does it take to ship to the U.S.
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    Default Re: Prices on Montales

    It took 19 days from the day they sent it out to arrive, and I live near a large city on the east coast. It was definitely held up and opened in Customs, even though Montale marked it as cosmetics. Nevertheless, it arrived.

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    Default Black Aoud was a no go, so what next?

    Black Aoud on me tends to stay aoud-y, which is not bad, but it could be just aoud straight up. I dont get the leather bar connection, not on my skin. Attar was a bit on the sweet side, but I did get roses and sandalwood.

    I do want some Red Vetyver, and want perhaps another Montale or rose scent to round out my collection.

    Here is what I have
    Fumerie Turque
    GIT
    L'air du Desert Morocain
    Piper Nigrum

    I want to order Red Vetyver

    So, what do you think of:
    Auod Damascus (worn this and kinda liked, moreso than Attar)
    Auod Red Petals (not tried)
    Aoud Queens Roses (not tried)
    Attar

    I can even go with Aoud Limes

    I also would consider The Different Company Rose Poiveree and Le Labo Rose 31. Worried about longevity and projection on colognes. I like them to project a bit and to last long

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    Default Re: Black Aoud was a no go, so what next?

    For a rose scent, have you tried Domenico Caraceni 1913?

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    Middle Notes: Neroli Bigarade, Rose Absolute, Tobacco Essence
    Base Notes: Frankincense, Cypress
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    Default Re: Black Aoud was a no go, so what next?

    petruccijc: I swear, if I could afford it, I would try all of your suggestions and then ask for more. You are awesome.

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    Default Re: Black Aoud was a no go, so what next?

    Yes,. I tried the Domenico over at Jock_with_Scent's, and as I recall, I was not all that impressed. I hear Le Labo is more woods/spices than rose, but with Black Aoud, I got more aoud. I read Trebor that Rose Petals is the opposite, more rose and less Aoud. I really like the Red Vetyver, so my dilema is either going for a 100 ml or getting 50 of that and 50ml of one of the other Montales.

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    Default Re: Black Aoud was a no go, so what next?

    finsfan, if you want a rose scent that's impressive and longlasting, I suggest you to try Paestum Rose from Eau d'Italie. IMO Duchaufour made something really amazing with this juice.

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    Default Re: Black Aoud was a no go, so what next?

    Quote Originally Posted by finsfan View Post
    Yes,. I tried the Domenico over at Jock_with_Scent's, and as I recall, I was not all that impressed. I hear Le Labo is more woods/spices than rose, but with Black Aoud, I got more aoud.
    I would definitely sample Rose31 before purchasing it. Everyone is different, I only get the rose in Rose31 not the woods/spices (wish I did, I'd like it a lot better!).

    I didn't get Domenico Caraceni Pour Homme the first or second time I tried it. Now, it is one of my favorite roses - I am partial to leather and tobacco scents and DC PH has a great tobacco note!
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    Default Re: Black Aoud was a no go, so what next?

    Not into leather really. I have tried Hamman and Blenheim Bouquet and one of them had this pine note that I dont do well. Also, at Jock's, I dont do boozy notes well. Hinoki and Black Tourmaline were instant no-gos, but I did appreciate that they were different. I wore some Idole and did not get booze, but I did not get a lot of spice like Piper. LV Musk gets too powdery. C&S 88 was nice but too soapy.

    Paestum Rose has a lot of nice things said. Wonder how it compares in longevity to Le Labo, and then I have read up on TDC Rose Poivree. The Rosines I think would be too shortlived.

    My short list is the LeLabo (a decant of 100 for around $100), the Eau d'Ialie, maybe revisit 88, or try another Montale.

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    Default Re: Black Aoud was a no go, so what next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magnifiscent View Post
    finsfan, if you want a rose scent that's impressive and longlasting, I suggest you to try Paestum Rose from Eau d'Italie. IMO Duchaufour made something really amazing with this juice.
    I went reading up on this. Pretty good reviews. Some say not as much incense.

    What about Eau Suave by Parfums d'Empire?

    Can you compare say Le Labo's and the Paestum Rose with a Montale Rose Auod? I read that some guys say that the Le Labo is very earthy, but cummin does ok by me (Red Vetyver and CDG 8 88 have it I think and I liked each)

    the other one I see is The Different Company's Rose Poivree but maybe it is not long lasting
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    Default Re: Black Aoud was a no go, so what next?

    I second the recommendations for the Domenico Caraceni 1913 and I'd add Parfums de Rosine Poussiere de Rose. Absolutely scrumptious musky rose, has plenty of wow factor and is sufficiently intriguing. I think it kind of breaks away from the path the other Rose scents follow by integrating some unusual notes including Apricots. You have to test it to believe it.

    Additionally, I'd also recommend Parfumerie Generale Corps et Ames. you can read my thread here if you want to. Granted, it's not exactly similar to Black Aoud but it certainly is related. It definitely brings to mind memoirs of Black Aoud. In all likelyhood it might prove to be more wearable for you.


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    Default Re: Black Aoud was a no go, so what next?

    I love Black Aoud. it took me many wearings to come to that decision. But if black aoud was too much and you havent given up on Montales try Sliver Aoud. the aoud is much softer and the rose is not as dark. I find it to be more wearable whereas Black Aoud is for when you want to make an impact.

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    Default Re: Black Aoud was a no go, so what next?

    Leather, Black Aoud did not smell like leather to me, and generally, it is not what I prefer. Also, on the musky, not much into that. MKK is too animal. I was reading up on Le Labo and someone said it was a thin rose scent, not much roses by the way. The PR by Eau d'Italie is well-received and the Eau Suave, some say it can get powdery. Id like something that is incensy and rose, or spicy and rose, or all three.

    Id be tempted on the CDG line but they say those are short lived.

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    Default Re: Black Aoud was a no go, so what next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Futami View Post
    I love Black Aoud. it took me many wearings to come to that decision. But if black aoud was too much and you havent given up on Montales try Sliver Aoud. the aoud is much softer and the rose is not as dark. I find it to be more wearable whereas Black Aoud is for when you want to make an impact.
    I did not get any rose from Sliver Aoud. It was a bright scent, kinda like a metallic scent without metal, if that makes sense

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    Sorry finsfan, but I've never smelled any of the Le Labo, nor I have sampled Montale Rose Auod. I didn't like rose poivré for example being too much tea rose (I prefer bulgarian rose) with salty-peppery anoressic background, in other words not gorgeous rose and a shortlived one, at least on me. From Montale I've just smelled oud queen roses and it's a bit too feminine IMO.
    Anyway from what you say about No. 88 I suspect you might like Paestum Rose. To me in fact it can be kinda modern interpretation of No. 88, where the victorian "politically correct" soapyness is took off, replaced by a dewy touch of peony giving the bulgarian rose a wet touch (instead of soapy) and where the incense is totally replaced by the dense resins (benzoin, myhrr, balsam...) completelly wrapping the florals. Longevity is good, on me it lasts 8h.

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    Default Re: Im loving Aromatic Limes, so another Montale would be ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Trebor View Post
    . Based on what you're looking for, I think you should try the following for now:

    Black Aoud
    Aoud Flowers
    Red Vetyver
    Attar
    Aoud Damascus
    Aoud Rose Petals

    I keep coming back to these scents and then Aoud Limes. For a rose Montale, I would eliminate Attar, and have not smelled Rose Petals. I dont want powder, but I do like the Rose in Le Labo 31. Vijay eliminated Queens Roses for me. So, which of the rose Montales would you suggest.

    Now, between Red Vetyver, Aoud Limes and Aoud Flowers, can someone compare and contrast them. I read that Aoud Limes has something of a honey note, and I liked Chergui but sold it for some reason. I liked that honey though.

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    Default Re: Black Aoud was a no go, so what next?

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoRoads View Post
    I would definitely sample Rose31 before purchasing it. Everyone is different, I only get the rose in Rose31 not the woods/spices (wish I did, I'd like it a lot better!).
    This is my experience to a T!

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    Default Re: Help me pick a Montale, skip to page two, LOL

    I don't get a honey note from Aoud Lime. Think Black Aoud with spices, mainly saffron,similar rose and very potent as well.

    Some claim a honey accord from Aoud Flowers and I can see where they get that from. It's a bit softer than the Black and the Lime but still nice rose, some oud and the softened "honey" woody accord. Not as soft as Golden Aoud but slightly softer than Black and Lime.
    BTW, Golden Aoud is something you should consider.......or should I just shut up for adding another choice?! :-)
    Similar rose, oud, woody, softer as mentioned, very lasting and a tad more complex than Black. A kindler, gentler Black Aoud would not be far from accurate.

    As you know, Red Vetyver is nowhere near any of the Aouds so.....Still awesome just the same but an apples to baseballs comparison. Get one of the Aouds and Red Vetyver and you'll be good to go.

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    Default Re: Help me pick a Montale, skip to page two, LOL

    Some claim a honey accord from Aoud Flowers and I can see where they get that from. It's a bit softer than the Black and the Lime but still nice rose, some oud and the softened "honey" woody accord. Not as soft as Golden Aoud but slightly softer than Black and Lime.
    BTW, Golden Aoud is something you should consider.......or should I just shut up for adding another choice?! :-)
    Similar rose, oud, woody, softer as mentioned, very lasting and a tad more complex than Black. A kindler, gentler Black Aoud would not be far from accurate.

    That is my problem. As has been said, the Rose Aouds are just a continuum so to speak. Black is more aoud that roses, then Rose Petals is opposite more rose than aoud. Aoud Limes was good on me, Ill give it that. But I am loving the rose from Le Labo 31, and if it had half the oud of say Black Montale and projected as much, well, there is heaven right there. But I dont get any spices other than a bit of cumin from Le Labo. I dont want soft per se. Vijay says he thinks it is between Black, Damascus and Rose PEtals, and that I would not like say Golden, Queens Rose or Rose Musk.

    As you know, Red Vetyver is nowhere near any of the Aouds so.....Still awesome just the same but an apples to baseballs comparison. Get one of the Aouds and Red Vetyver and you'll be good to go.

    I thin that is what I want to do. Or maybe Paestum Rose and Red Vetyver

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    Default Re: Help me pick a Montale, skip to page two, LOL

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    Default Re: Help me pick a Montale, skip to page two, LOL

    Why don't you just go to Luckyscent and sample these yourself? There is only so much "help" others can provide... In the end it's your nose that matters, not anyone else's...
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    Default Re: Help me pick a Montale, skip to page two, LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by evogel View Post
    I don't get a honey note from Aoud Lime.
    I don't either.

    Quote Originally Posted by KMF
    Why don't you just go to Luckyscent and sample these yourself?
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    Default Re: Help me pick a Montale, skip to page two, LOL

    I meant to say a honey note in Aoud Flowers

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    Default Re: Help me pick a Montale, skip to page two, LOL

    Well after struggling with picking a montale or two, I went for Sweet Oriental Dream and Black Aoud. I haven´t actually tried Black Aoud but I tried several others, including red and white and I found them all agreeable and nice but wishing the earth note was stronger. And I was expecting a lot more power and shock from them as well, and that left me a little dissapointed. I hope I´ll find this in Black Aoud or it will come up in the sales section of basenotes.
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    Default Re: Help me pick a Montale, skip to page two, LOL

    Lian,
    I hope you find what you are looking for in Black Aoud. It can certainly have shock value. The other two from the Aoud line with shock value would be Lime Aoud and Red Aoud, which you have already tried.

    The Black is the "earthiest" of the line for me so far. Yesterday,late in the day, someone asked me if I was wearing patchouli oil.....it was Black Aoud. Don't worry though, I don't get massive patchouli from Black Aoud,just a nice little bit. :-)

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