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    Default Bal Versailles or Cabochard

    I've been lurking at these two as my next winter scent. As I have an awful lot of bottles, some of which I don't use, I was thinking of getting only one of these two and reduce my collection to the perfumes I wear only plus decants.

    Bal Versailles and Cabochard (vintage) are both described as leathery and sensual scents. Which one would you suggest ? I've never tried them.

    Thx.
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    Bal a Versailles is sensual sweet flowery musky-civet scent.
    Cabochard is austere green-brown flowery leather-castoreum scent. More masculine and alike Aramis (but with more greens and flowers, more refined) scent, which is my favourite for all weather and every season...
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    Default Re: Bal Versailles or Cabochard

    And which one would you see onto a woman ?
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    Default Re: Bal Versailles or Cabochard

    Oh, dear one-
    BaV can be had often-
    Go for Cabochard !

    It is one of a kind.
    [I love and have them both....]

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    Cabochard, every time.

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    I agree with Cabochard as a great scent for Winter. Tho do try and test BaV, its lovely, but something I personally prefer in warmer weather

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    Default Re: Bal Versailles or Cabochard

    Nope - I loathe oakmoss and Cabochard is the ultimate in vile to me. I vote for Bal a Versailles. And if you'd like a bottle of Cabochard for just the cost of the P&P, send me a PM and let me know.
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    Default Re: Bal Versailles or Cabochard

    Hmmm... I think both Bal and Cabochard are great fragrances, but to me they each a very different "feel". Both are aloof, but the overall impression of that aloofness comes across differently.

    Bal is rich and opulent - even in EDC which purely by chance I happen to be using today - and there is something almost woody about it that gives it strength against the warmth of the rest of the composition. If I smelled this on a woman, the image I think that would go best with this would be a youngish aristocratic woman in a grand hall with a sparkle in her eye, but remaining very proper and therefore a little aloof.

    Cabochard has a more modern feel to it because of its.... smokiness, I guess it would be. I think this goes well with the image of a woman in a nicely tailored pantsuit, approachable enough for a guy to easily start a conversation with and flirtatious in a smart and witty manner, yet with her wit keeps the guy on his toes and at a "respectable distance" (but wanting to keep trying!).

    Both are different from what I usually smell on the women I know or come across and would find both appealing on a woman. I'd have to give the edge to Cabochard, though. I think Cabochard would come across as more interesting, and in its way, softer in feel.
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    Ok, thanks for your help, I'm convinced !
    Wordbid, do you have the actual Cabochard or a vintage bottle ?
    I'm looking for an old one.
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    Re: Cabochard. Test the different concentrations before you choose. The EDT and EDP can smell quite different from one another, accentuating different notes. Make sure you smell both.

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    Default Re: Bal Versailles or Cabochard

    I have and love them both, but they're too different, IMHO, to compare.

    Bal is better in vintage, softer. The perfume is richer of course, with more incense notes, more skank. Bal is definitely an evening scent, I believe; I have it in every version, but I never wear it for work or the like. It's just too seductive

    Cabochard (and I only have the modern, alas, I hear the vintage is much better) is animalic, leathery, but drier and harder-edged. It's a chypre, and could go day or night. I think that if Bal was in-her-prime Bridgette Bardot, Cabochard would be Katherine Hepburn.

    Vintage Bal can often be found on E-bay for a reasonable price, and the modern version is positively cheap on the online discounters. I think vintage Cabochard is going to be a little more difficult to find, but not impossible, and the auction prices aren't stratospheric the way they are for the Guerlains or for Joy.

    So my choice would be Bal for night, Cabochard for day, and both can be had for the price of one Guerlain or Chanel scent.
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    Sadly I have the modern version of Cabochard. Edt.
    What a shame I can't get rid of the damn thing!

    Bal a Versailles is very very skanky. Evening wear, for definite.
    Good though!

    I've never been able to fight my way through the oakmoss *shudder* to get to Cabochard's skank. Luca Turin says the vintage stuff is really filthy - like worn drawers. If it's the full musky 'old knickers' skank you're after, you could try L'Air de Rien - that's allegedly very much in the same department.

    Please be aware that I'm all for skank and don't give a hoot about smelling like pants. It's only the oakmoss I don't like. Which is why I like Bal, though that's much more in the oriental mould to me. Only way filthier than most orientals. *grins*
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    Default Re: Bal Versailles or Cabochard

    Bal Versailles and Cabochard (vintage) are both described as leathery and sensual scents. Which one would you suggest ? I've never tried them.

    Thx.[/QUOTE]

    Vintage Cabochard is one of the world's most perfect fragrance!

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    Default Re: Bal Versailles or Cabochard

    Quote Originally Posted by echerub View Post
    Bal is rich and opulent - even in EDC which purely by chance I happen to be using today - and there is something almost woody about it that gives it strength against the warmth of the rest of the composition. If I smelled this on a woman, the image I think that would go best with this would be a youngish aristocratic woman in a grand hall with a sparkle in her eye, but remaining very proper and therefore a little aloof.

    Cabochard has a more modern feel to it because of its.... smokiness, I guess it would be. I think this goes well with the image of a woman in a nicely tailored pantsuit, approachable enough for a guy to easily start a conversation with and flirtatious in a smart and witty manner, yet with her wit keeps the guy on his toes and at a "respectable distance" (but wanting to keep trying!).
    For the reasons echerub mentioned, I think Bal a Versailles is too old-fashioned for most women to wear. If you're a modern woman, it just doesn't fit your style. It belongs with ballgowns and tiaras.
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    I will sample both before buying but I'm pretty sure I'll like both.
    Thanks to all for your interesting comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    I've been lurking at these two as my next winter scent. As I have an awful lot of bottles, some of which I don't use, I was thinking of getting only one of these two and reduce my collection to the perfumes I wear only plus decants.

    Bal Versailles and Cabochard (vintage) are both described as leathery and sensual scents. Which one would you suggest ? I've never tried them.

    Thx.
    Make sure it's the VINTAGE Cabochard -- the new version has zero resemblance to the original!

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    I know that !
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    Default Re: Bal Versailles or Cabochard

    [Bal Versailles and Cabochard (vintage) are both described as leathery and sensual scents. Which one would you suggest ? I've never tried them.

    Thx.[/QUOTE]

    I think the only note that is NOT in Bal a Versaille is leather. It's an opulent, musky, skanky, civet-heavy floriental (especially in vintage.)

    Cabochard is very leathery, much drier than Bal, as different from Bal as night from day.
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    I concur with the consensus that vintage Cabochard is infinitely better than the crap being marketed. That said, you really need to try both alongside one another before making up your mind.

    Bal Versailles is much more powdery and (IMHO) slightly more feminine than Cabochard, although both could (in a more perfect world, anyway) be classified as unisex. Vintage Cabochard, while complex and (IMHO) gorgeous, is more hard edged and drier than Bal Versailles, esp. in BaV's edt form -- in short, definitely not for everyone. Try before you buy.

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