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    Default If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    I like Frederic Malle's Vetiver Extraordinaire. It is crisp, clean, earthy and vetiver-y. I dont normally like vetiver scents, but the little sample of VE changed everything. I used to have a bottle of Guerlain Vetiver, but the lemon/tobacco put me off.

    So, what scent is close to VE, but doesnt cost an arm (or a leg)?
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    Default Re: If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    I haven't smelled anthing close to VE. I find most vetivers are paired up with citrus and such.

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    Yeah there's nothing really close to VE... Comme des Garcons 2 MAN cames really close for me but it's smokier.

    Vetiver de Puig is another grassy/earthy one I know of and have tried. It's not as pointed and jarring as VE but it's fresh and clean like you describe it. It's also fairly inexpensive.

    The recently reissued Givenchy Vetiver is damned amazing. Fresh and grassy. Might actually be perfect for what you are looking for.

    If you're looking for something completely different and to get the other end of the spectrum, try MPG's Route de Vetiver. Dirty and potent stuff though not for everyone.

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    Lalique Encre Noir is almost an exact replica of the same...only Encre Noir is slight bit woodier...bu the overall smell, feel and approach is pretty much the same.

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    Default Re: If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    I guess I will start saving up. I'll try to get a sample of Encre Noire, though. Thanks a lot!
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    Default Re: If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    i have a couple samples of Vetiver Extraordinaire and i have a full bottle of Encre Noire.

    i'm sorry, but i think Encre Noire blows VE away! it's so much cleaner, more industrial, sharper, and just more interesting overall.

    VE is a nice scent for sure though.....and i must admit these two scents are VERY similar in some ways..
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    I second Encre Noir. It's less expensive than VE but is quite comparable in effect. You might also consider Route du Vetiver, which is earthier than VE - quite an up-front, raucous vetiver as I recall.
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    Default Re: If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    I read some reviews of Encre Noir and there seems to be an ink note, if I am not mistaken. Does it draw away from the vetiver, because I'm not a huge fan of the ink note in Silver Mountain Water. As for the Route du Vetiver, does it retain any of the clean, vetiveriness(sp?)/floralozones of Vetiver Extraordinaire or is it like buying Indian vetiver oil straight?

    To sum it up, do these two scents have a bright and clear vetiver note, or are they bogged down by other, weird notes?

    One more question, does anyone have any experience with Haitian/Indian vetiver oil?

    Thanks in advanced.
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    Default Re: If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    Quote Originally Posted by supracuhz View Post

    To sum it up, do these two scents have a bright and clear vetiver note, or are they bogged down by other, weird notes?
    i think the vetiver note in Encre Noire is actually clearer than in VE, imo......it is much sharper though---it has almost a cold bitterness to it, which is a part of the whole ink cascade. The vetiver is STRONG though, very strong....and very dry. Definitely worth trying if you're into pure vetiver scents...

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    You might be able to get lucky on ebay with Vetiver de Puig. Now that I understand frags a lot better, I'm really impressed with this juice! Just took a look and noticed it on amazon for $20 + shipping (1.7 ounces).
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    Of the vetivers I've tried, I think perhaps Royall Vetiver is closest to V.E., but I've never smelled some of the others mentioned above. The Royall is a lot less concentrated, but of course a lot cheaper. In any case I find it a worthy scent in its own right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d4 View Post
    Of the vetivers I've tried, I think perhaps Royall Vetiver is closest to V.E., but I've never smelled some of the others mentioned above. The Royall is a lot less concentrated, but of course a lot cheaper. In any case I find it a worthy scent in its own right.
    How is the longevity with Royall Vetiver? My experience with Royall Lime and Musk is that they don't last very long. Considering their cost, I'm not surprised.
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    I found that VEtiver Extreme by guerlain uses the same vetiver note than Extraordinary. The overall scents though are a little bit more different, but you should try it.
    I think Yang is similar in character too.

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    Default Re: If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    Chanel Sycomore

    It's not pricey per/ml, but the bottle is big. Find someone to split this with or buy a large decant.

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    I agree that Givenchy Vetiver is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supracuhz View Post
    I read some reviews of Encre Noir and there seems to be an ink note, if I am not mistaken. Does it draw away from the vetiver, because I'm not a huge fan of the ink note in Silver Mountain Water. As for the Route du Vetiver, does it retain any of the clean, vetiveriness(sp?)/floralozones of Vetiver Extraordinaire or is it like buying Indian vetiver oil straight?

    To sum it up, do these two scents have a bright and clear vetiver note, or are they bogged down by other, weird notes?

    One more question, does anyone have any experience with Haitian/Indian vetiver oil?

    Thanks in advanced.
    well, there is no Ink in SMW, its just a reference or lets say a image it projects...i perceive the same note as mixture of woody spices, juniper berry and "earth note". so That reference/comparison of note doesnt come up in anyways.

    Yes, Encre noir does have a "true" ink note, which smells anything but lovely and only adds to the beauty of this scent.... but, the overall picture it paints is that of vetiver & woods. lovely stuff.

    There are many a scents in the niche domain which would fall into that category...but not many in the designer domain...Encre Noir is a gift to the designer world...it has all the qualities of being Niche

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirSlarty View Post
    Yeah there's nothing really close to VE...

    The recently reissued Givenchy Vetiver is damned amazing. Fresh and grassy. Might actually be perfect for what you are looking for.
    Givenchy Vetyver is what you're looking for if you want anything close. And it is damned amazing! I hadn't gotten around to giving my recently arrived bottle (still in its original packaging) a wearing - until today. I was actually surprised at how similar it is to VE. VE is loaded with oakmoss and that is what sets it apart from - say - Encre Noir (of which I have a decant). I checked on the bottom of my GV box and, sure enough! There it was!: EVERNIA PRUNASTRI (OAKMOSS) EXTRACT !!!!!
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    Default Re: If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    Where would one go about getting Givenchy Vetyver?
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    Default Re: If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    Quote Originally Posted by SirSlarty View Post
    The recently reissued Givenchy Vetiver is damned amazing. Fresh and grassy. Might actually be perfect for what you are looking for.
    I donīt agree. Givenchy Vetyver is damned amazing, but itīs not fresh and grassy. I would call it rather dark, smoky, waxy and mossy - and it screams GENTLEMAN!
    Itīs Pour Monsieur de Chanel in a black suit.

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    Encre Noire!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sables View Post
    I donīt agree. Givenchy Vetyver is damned amazing, but itīs not fresh and grassy. I would call it rather dark, smoky, waxy and mossy - and it screams GENTLEMAN!
    Itīs Pour Monsieur de Chanel in a black suit.
    Not "fresh"?? Givenchy Vetyver (of the Les Mythiques reissue) comes across to me as "refreshingly fresh". I would definitely agree that it is "mossy" - but that kind of mossiness (which GV & VE possess) comes across to me like the smell of a primal forest. Definitely worth sampling (theperfumedcourt.com). I hope they keep this one in production!

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    Argh, how did I forget Encre Noire? n-thing Encre Noire!

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    Default Re: If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    Quote Originally Posted by supracuhz View Post
    Where would one go about getting Givenchy Vetyver?
    I remember a while back a thread here advised that they stock it at the Chicago Nordstroms... it may be at others by now, too.

    edit: I found the Givenchy Vetyver to be more like Guerlain's then Malle's, and I've tried both the vintage and re-issued Givenchy.
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    Default Re: If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    Sadly, I'm not yet familiar with Encre Noire; however, the closest scents to Vetiver Extraordinaire that I have experience with are

    L'Artisan Vetiver
    Tauer's new Vetiver Dance
    Miller Harris' Vetiver Bourbon, and
    Etro Vetiver

    not necessarily in that order. That said, VE is, imo, sufficiently unique as to be able to own with no fear of overlap with something else.

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    Default Re: If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    Quote Originally Posted by wicozani View Post
    ...VE is, imo, sufficiently unique as to be able to own with no fear of overlap with something else.
    I agree. I have smelled most of the recommendations above, and none of them fully replicates the effect of Vetiver Extraordinaire.

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    Default Re: If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    Don't forget Chanel's Sycomore. (the one in the exclusif line) Try it out, it really does conjure VE, but in a more woody direction. IMO, almost just as good, but far better value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    I agree. I have smelled most of the recommendations above, and none of them fully replicates the effect of Vetiver Extraordinaire.

    well, he is looking for somethin which doesnt cost as much...

    however, i do agree, VE smells very very realistic and is subtle to an extent in nature...VE along with Carnal Flower, French Lover & Angeliques Sous la Pluie literally play with senses and are scents which could be extremely personal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by moltening View Post
    Don't forget Chanel's Sycomore. (the one in the exclusif line) Try it out, it really does conjure VE, but in a more woody direction. IMO, almost just as good, but far better value.
    Whether Sycomore will be an acceptable substitute for VE depends on how you react to the smoky note in it. VE presents as a raw green vetiver whereas Sycomore leans more toward the Guerlain model, as stated before. However, the smoky note in Sycomore seems closer to the birch tar (I think) smoke in Lonestar Memories than to the tobacco and smoke in Guerlain. Mind you, this is all based on a few minutes of testing Sycomore at NM in Dallas a couple of weeks ago, so I may be way off base (or blowing smoke up your behind, as the case may be). Question for note experts: is the smoky note in some vetivers produced from a separate ingredient or from a variety of vetiver that produces the smoky note?

    Bottom line: I much prefer VE over Sycomore because I don't personally care for smoky notes. I also prefer VE over Encre Noir, but the distinction isn't nearly as clear cut.
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    If I like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like - Vetiver Dance by Tauer Fragrance and Vetyver by Givenchy. (can order Vetyver by Givenchy from Nordstrum, online). Also, you might like Encre Noire and Lorenzo Villoresi Vetiver but both are earthier, woodier, darker and more mysterious - if you like that direction you may actually like these more than VE - I do. My all time favorite vetiver is Sel d' Vetiver from The Different Co. It is similar to VE but is a little more sparkling and oceanic while still being very much a great vetiver - an inspiring and uplifiting composition of notes.

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    Default Re: If I Like Vetiver Extraordinaire, then I would also like

    You might indeed like Encre Noir if you like VE, as I do, because the vetiver is strong in both of them. But the two are not the same, they are not even close if you ask me. Givenchy is also good but miles away from VE.
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